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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> TONIGHT ON GREATER BOSTON A NEW FRONTLINE DOCUMENTARY INVESTIGATES THE OBJECTIONS OF THOUSANDS OF UKRAINIAN CHILDREN TAKEN BY RUSSIAN MILITANTS WHEN THE WAR BROKE OUT.
I TALKED TO THE FILM’S DIRECTOR AHEAD.
HOW IS THE STATE INFLUX OF MIGRANTS EASING THE LABOR SHORTAGE?
ONE EVERETT BAR IS COMBINING DOGS AND DRINKS.
WE GET AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE PARK NINE DOG BAR.
DURING THE WAR IN UKRAINE THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN HAVE BEEN ABDUCTED BY RUSSIA AND SHIPPED TO REEDUCATION CAMPS.
EVERY DAY THEY ARE REQUIRED TO SING THE RUSSIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM, WHERE RUSSIAN MILITARY GEAR AND MANY COULD BE ULTIMATELY FORCED TO FIGHT IN THE WAR AGAINST THEIR HOME COUNTRY.
>> WE ARE STILL HOPING TO BRING THEM HOME.
THEY ARE STILL OUR CHILDREN.
>> IN A NEW FRONTLINE DOCUMENTARY INVESTIGATORS TALKED TO SOME OF THE CHILDREN AND DOCUMENT THE SEARCH FOR OTHERS STILL MISSING.
THE FILMS DIRECTOR AND PRODUCER PAUL KENYON JOINS ME NOW TO DISCUSS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> IT’S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> AS MANY AS 19,000 UKRAINIAN CHILDREN ARE BEING CURRENTLY HELD IN RUSSIAN TERRITORY.
CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT HOW THEY GOT THERE?
HOW DO THESE CHILDREN GET TAKEN BY RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES?
>> IT’S INTERESTING.
THE RUSSIAN LINE ADVANCES THROUGH EASTERN UKRAINE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR IN 2022.
AS THEY SWEEP IN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THERE ARE CHILDREN THERE IN ORPHANAGES, IN SCHOOLS.
IN THE MORNING THEY ARE PART OF UKRAINE AND IN THE AFTERNOON THEY ARE SWEPT THROUGH BY RUSSIAN TROOPS AND SUDDENLY PART OF A DIFFERENT COUNTRY.
THE RUSSIANS THEN TAKE THEM OUT OF THE SCHOOLS AND ORPHANAGES, PUSHES THEM BACK INTO RUSSIA PROPER, PUT THEM INTO OTHER ORPHANAGES, SCHOOLS, AND CAMPS.
THEN A LOT OF THE CHILDREN END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE, AS WE DISCOVER IN OUR FILM, THEY ARE BEING INDOCTRINATED, BEING GIVEN PROPAGANDA, BEING FORCED TO WEAR RUSSIAN UNIFORMS AND ASSAYING THE RUSSIAN ANTHEM.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IS AS THE LINE PROGRESSES, THE RUSSIAN LINE, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR CHILDREN TO FLEE OR FOR THEIR PARENTS TO TAKE THEM.
IT IS AT THAT CRITICAL MOMENT THAT RUSSIANS ARE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION.
>> IN SOME OF THE CASES PARENTS ACTUALLY SENT THEIR KIDS TO CAMP AREA THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE JUST SENDING THEIR KIDS FOR A COUPLE WEEKS TO GO TO CAMP.
IN SOME WAY IT FEELS CRAZY TO SEND YOUR CHILDREN INTO RUSSIAN HELD TERRITORY.
IS THAT MORE CULTURALLY NORMAL THERE THAN IT FEELS LIKE HERE?
>> YES.
SPIRITED -- PARTICULARLY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA OF K HERSON IN SOUTHERN UKRAINE CLOSER CRIMEA.
ONCE THE RUSSIANS HAD TAKEN THAT AREA NEW RUSSIAN TEACHERS WOULD SAY, CHILDREN NEED RESPITE FROM THE BOMBING, FROM THE UKRAINIAN AND RUSSIAN FIGHTING AND FROM THE SHELLING.
SO WE WILL TAKE THEM TO A CAMP.
WE THINK THAT’S A GOOD THING.
THE PARENTS WILL SAY, YET IF THEY GET A TWO WEEK BREAK.
THEN THE CHILDREN DISAPPEAR TO CAMPS IN CRIMEA AND IN THE MEANTIME THE UKRAINIANS RETAKE THAT TERRITORY.
THINK ABOUT IT.
ONCE THE UKRAINIANS HAVE RETAKEN THE TERRITORY THE CHILDREN ARE OFF IN A CAMP SOMEWHERE STILL BEHIND IN AMI LINES.
THE CHILDREN AND PARENTS BECOME SEPARATED.
EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS BIZARRE THAT PARENTS HAVE SAID, YES, THEY CAN GO TO THIS CAMP, AT THE TIME, PARENTS WERE THINKING RESPITE FROM MORE ISN’T A BAD THING.
WE WON’T BE SEPARATED.
WE CAN GET THEM BACK AS SOON AS WE LIKE.
AND THAT NEVER HAPPENS.
THESE CHILDREN WERE SEPARATED BY THE LINE, BY THE FRONTLINE.
THE RUSSIANS WOULD SAY, WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING AT THAT POINT IS SAVING THE CHILDREN FROM A DANGEROUS SITUATION TAKING THEM BEHIND RUSSIAN LINES AND BACK INTO RUSSIA PROPER.
IF THE PARENTS EVER WANT THEM BACK, YOU CAN COME AND COLLECT THEM.
FEEL FREE.
THEY ARE THERE FOR YOU.
THAT IS NOT REALLY HOW IT IS.
IT IS A CYNICAL APPROACH FROM THE RUSSIANS.
WHAT CAN YOU REALLY DO AS A YOUNG MOTHER LOOKING TO GET YOUR CHILD BACK ON THE OTHERS OF THE LINES?
YOU CANNOT CROSS THE LINE.
THAT IS TOO DANGEROUS.
SOME OF THEM GOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH BELARUS, WEST, AND BACK INTO RUSSIA SPENDING JOURNEYS TO GET BACK AND RECLAIM THEIR CHILDREN AND IT IS DANGEROUS TO GO AND DO THAT.
>> OF COURSE.
TELL US MORE ABOUT THE CAMPS WHERE THE KIDS ARE BEING KEPT AND WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE LIKE AND WHAT THEY ARE BEING MADE TO DO.
>> TRADITIONALLY THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF SUMMER CAMPS IN CRIMEA.
TRADITIONALLY IT WAS A PLACE WHERE CHILDREN WOULD GO LIKE SUMMER CAMPS IN THE U.S..
THEY WOULD GO THERE AND EXPERIENCE NATURE, GO SWIMMING, ENJOY FORESTS.
THEY WOULD PLAY BASKETBALL.
THEY WERE AWAY FROM THEIR PARENTS, SO IT IS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT HAPPENED AFTER 2022 AND THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR WERE THESE CAMPS TRANSFORMED INTO SOMETHING RATHER DESPERATE -- DIFFERENT, YOUNG UKRAINIAN CHILDREN ENDED UP GOING THERE AND FINDING THEMSELVES SENT TO SOMETHING MORE AKIN TO A MILITARY TRAINING CAMP.
THEY END UP BEING IN MILITARY COSTUMES, SINGING RUSSIAN SONGS.
THE WHOLE THING HAS A MILITARY FLAVOR ABOUT IT AND THEY CANNOT GO BACK TO THEIR PARENTS.
IT IS NOT LIKE THEY CAN CALL THEIR PARENTS IN THE EVENING AND SAY EVERYTHING IS OK, I AM HAPPY, WE WILL BE BACK TOGETHER ONE DAY.
THEY CANNOT PHONE THEIR PARENTS AND THERE ARE BEING -- THEY ARE BEING FED PROPAGANDA OF THE ENEMY STATE.
IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE PARENT YOUR CHILDREN ARE BEING REEDUCATED IN THE LANGUAGE AND CULTURE OF THE ENEMY, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FIGHTING YOU, AND SOMETIMES COMMIT THESE LITTLE KID, THEIR FATHERS ARE PART OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMY.
YOU ARE BEING EDUCATED AGAINST HER UPBRINGING, YOUR FATHER, YOUR PARENTS, YOUR NEIGHBOR.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN AND HIS CHILDREN’S COMMISSIONER ALREADY HAVE AN INDICTMENT FROM THE YOU -- INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT OVER, WHICH IS, THE MOVEMENT, THE KIDNAPPING.
THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE IS WHEN THEY TAKE THESE CHILDREN IT IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE TO SAY THAT THE CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE UNLAWFUL DEPORTATION AND TRANSFER OF CHILDREN FROM OCCUPIED AREAS OF UKRAINE TO RUSSIA.
WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING THERE IS THEY ARE TAKING THE CHILDREN FROM OCCUPIED AREAS INTO RUSSIA PROPER.
THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT’S ARE ALREADY LOOKING TO PROSECUTE PRESIDENT PUTIN AND HIS CHILDREN’S COMMISSIONER.
A REALISTICALLY THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT EVER HAPPENING IS PRETTY REMOTE BECAUSE PUTIN WON’T GO TO A COUNTRY WHERE HE IS LIKELY TO BE ARRESTED.
IT IS NOT JUST SERIOUS, IT’S INCREDIBLY DEEP AND WIDESPREAD.
IT’S NOT 5, 10, 15, 20 CHILDREN.
IT’S 19,000 CHILDREN THAT HAVE GONE MISSING FROM UKRAINE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT CANNOT BE FOUND.
YOUR DOCUMENTARY FOLLOWED INVESTIGATORS COLLECTING EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CHARGE IN THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT.
AS YOU SAID, IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT ANY ACCOUNTABILITY, CERTAINLY CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST PUTIN OR OTHER SENIOR OFFICIALS COULD LEAD TO ANYTHING.
>> NO.
IT’S HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE IN A COUNTRY WHERE THEY WERE PREPARED AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON.
IT IS INTERESTING.
IN THE FILM YOU SEE PUTIN ON A STAGE IN MOSCOW SURROUNDED BY CELEBRATING CROWDS LIKE A FOOTBALL STADIUM IN THE U.S..
HE COMES ON STAGE AND EVERYBODY APPLAUDS HIM.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR HUGE PROPER ANDA -- PROPAGANDA JAMBOREE IS PUTIN IS THROUGHOUT IT BY SMALL UKRAINIAN CHILDREN THAT COME ON STAGE AND SAY DON’T YOU WANT TO TURN TO ALL OF THE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS THAT HAVE SAVED YOU FROM UKRAINE?
THE CHILDREN SAY, THANK YOU FOR SAVING US FROM THE UKRAINIANS.
THESE ARE KIDS, 6, 7, 8 YEARS OLD.
THEY HAVE NO IDEA.
THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD TO SAY THIS.
WHEN YOU WATCH SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU SAY MY GOODNESS, THIS IS SOMETHING VLADIMIR PUTIN IS USING AS A PIECE OF PROPAGANDA SAYING TO HIS RUSSIAN AUDIENCE WE HAVE SAVED THESE CHILDREN FROM THE AWFUL UKRAINIANS, FROM WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM.
NOW WE ARE ALL HERE TO SET UP RIGHT THAT WE ARE MAKING THEM INTO PROPER RUSSIANS.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING VLADIMIR PUTIN IS DENYING.
HE IS SAYING THERE IS A DIFFERENT REASON THEY ARE DOING IT.
>> THE SCENE WITH THE CHILDREN HUGGING THE SOLDIERS AT THE RALLY IS STRIKING.
SHOCKING THE ART ONE OF -- SHOCKING.
ONE OF THE KIDS YOU INTERVIEWED FOR THE DOCUMENTARY IS NAMED VLAD.
HE RESISTED THE INDOCTRINATION AND TOOK DOWN A RUSSIAN FLAG AND HUNG HIS UNDERWEAR IN PLACE.
BUT, WAS DISCIPLINED FOR THAT AND PUT IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.
HE WAS THREATENED BY A SOLDIER.
HERE IS WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.
>>[SPEAKING ANOTHER LANGUAGE] >> THAT IS INCREDIBLE.
ARE THESE CAMPS OR PRISONS OR SOME COMBINATION?
>> THIS WAS A CAMP THAT HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN A HOLIDAY CAN BEND ORIGINALLY BECAME A CHILDREN CAMP -- CHILDREN’S CAMP FOR UKRAINIANS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY WHERE THEY WERE TAUGHT MILITARY WAYS.
YOU CAN SEE HE IS 16 OR 17 YEARS OLD.
THEY GET TRANSFERRED TO MILITARY TRAINING CAMPS.
THEN THEY ARE TAUGHT TO BECOME PART OF THE RUSSIAN ARMY.
THE SITUATION THERE IS, WHO ARE THEY BEING TAUGHT TO FIGHT?
THE RUSSIAN ARMY IS ONLY FIGHTING ONE LARGE WAR THE MOMENT.
THAT IS AGAINST UKRAINE.
SO, THESE CHILDREN ARE BEING PUSHED INTO MILITARY TRAINING CAMPS AND THEN EXPECTED TO FIGHT AGAINST, IN EXTREME CASES, THEIR OWN NEIGHBORS, THEIR OWN FATHERS, THEIR OWN FAMILIES.
THAT IS HOW EXTRAORDINARY IT IS.
>> YOU DESCRIBED THE SCENE OF THE RALLY.
THE BIG QUESTION IS, WHY IS RUSSIA DOING THIS?
THIS IS WHAT SOMEBODY FOR THE INTERNATIONAL PARTNERSHIP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS HAD TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
>> THE PURPOSE IS TO ERASE OUR NATIONAL IDENTITY BY THIS IDEOLOGICAL AND POLITICAL AND CULTURAL AND SOMETIMES EVEN MILITARY REEDUCATION.
RUSSIANS TRIED TO DISCOURAGE US.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY WANT US TO LOSE OUR IDENTITY AND OBEY THEIR NARRATIVES.
>> IS THAT A FAIR SUMMARY OF WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
COULD THIS BE AN EFFECTIVE MILITARY TOOL FOR RUSSIA?
>> YES.
I THINK IT’S A FAIR SUMMARY THAT SHE GAVE.
WHAT SHE IS ACTUALLY DESCRIBING IS SOMETHING THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT WOULD SAY WAS A FORM OF GENOCIDE.
IT IS WITH INTENT TO DESTROY, IN WHOLE OR IN PART, A NATION OR ETHNIC GROUP.
WHAT THAT PARTICULAR NGO WE WERE WORKING WITH WOULD SAY IS THEY ARE GIVING EVIDENCE TO THE ICC WHICH THEY THINK IS PROOF OF GENOCIDE BY VLADIMIR PUTIN HIS CHILDREN’S COMMISSIONER.
>> YOUR DOCUMENTARY FOLLOWS A GROUP OF WOMEN WHO WORKED WITH AN ORGANIZATION CALLED SAVE UKRAINE TO TRY TO GET THERE CHILDREN BACK INCLUDING AN OLDER GRANDMOTHER.
TELL US ABOUT HER STORY AND THIS EFFORT TO RETRIEVE THE CHILDREN.
>> YES.
AN EXTRAORDINARY NGO IS TRYING TO LOCATE, FIRST OF ALL, MISSING UKRAINIAN CHILDREN AND ARE TRYING TO FACILITATE THEIR RETURN TO UKRAINE.
IT’S INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.
THEY ARE A VERY DEDICATED GROUP.
WE SPENT TIME WITH THEM.
THEY SENT A GROUP OF MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS THAT KNEW WHERE THEIR CHILDREN WERE AND WERE GOING TO TRY TO RELOCATE -- LOCATE THEM.
THIS PARTICULAR GRANDMOTHER CALLED OLA WAS VERY BRAVE.
SHE DECIDED SHE WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO ONE OF THE CRIMEAN CAMPS AND PICK UP HER TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS THAT WERE MISSING.
SHE SET OFF WITH A GROUP OF OTHERS.
THEY WERE INTERROGATED IN MOSCOW BY A GROUP OF SECRET POLICE.
WHICH SHE FOUND, BY ALL ACCOUNTS, EXTRAORDINARILY TRAUMATIC.
THEY CONTINUED THEIR JOURNEY.
A COUPLE DAYS LATER, WHILE STILL ON THE ROAD, ONLY A FEW MILES FROM COLLECTING HER GRANDDAUGHTERS, THIS GRANDMOTHER, OLA, COLLAPSED AND COULD NOT BE RESUSCITATED.
SHE HAD A HEART ATTACK ON THE PAYMENT -- PAVEMENT.
HER FAMILY HAS SAID THE REASON IT HAPPENED WAS SHE WAS SO STRESSED BY BEING INTERROGATED BY RUSSIAN SECURITY OFFICIALS THAT SHE NEVER RECOVERED.
AND THAT IS WHY SHE DIED.
IT IS A TERRIBLE STORY.
THERE IS ONE LITTLE MOVEMENT IN -- POINT OF MOVEMENT IN THAT TOWARDS THE END WHICH IS THE GRANDDAUGHTER MANAGES TO GET HOME EVENTUALLY.
SHE IS SAFE.
HAVE TO SEE THE FILM TO SEE THE MOMENT, BUT IT IS EXTRAORDINARY WHEN SHE IS UNITED WITH WHAT REMAINS OF HER FAMILY.
EVEN WHEN I WATCH NOW IT BRINGS A TEAR TO MY EYE.
THE YOUNG WOMAN IS I THINK 14 OR 15 AT THE TIME.
SHE HAS BEEN HELD IN A CRIMEAN CAP VIBE RUSSIANS FOR SEVEN MONTHS.
WHEN THE DOORS TO THE MINIBUS OPENS AND SHE JUMPS OUT SHE SEES MEMBERS OF HER FAMILY THERE AND YOU SEE PURE JOY IN HER FACE.
IT’S EXTRAORDINARY.
>> ANOTHER OF THE KIDS YOU SPOKE WITH IS NAMED SAUGET.
YOU SPOKE WITH HIS FATHER.
>> HIS FATHER SAYS THE SOLDIERS LEARNED HE HAD BEEN A DOCTOR AND SAID THIS WAS NOT RECOGNIZED UNDER RUSSIAN LAW.
TO THEM, SERGEI WAS AN ORPHAN.
>>[SPEAKING ANOTHER LANGUAGE] >> THIS IDEA THAT RUSSIA DOES NOT RECOGNIZE ADOPTIONS WAS SHOCKING TO ME.
I AM WONDERING IF THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES WE HAVE FOUND, OTHER EVIDENCE THAT OTHER ADOPTED CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY RUSSIA FOR THIS REASON.
>> IT IS A VERY GRAY AREA THAT IS FASCINATING.
THAT PARTICULAR GENTLEMAN HAD A LOT OF ADOPTED CHILDREN.
HE SAID WHEN THE RUSSIANS TOOK OVER HIS TOWN THEY CAME IN WITH GUNS AND SAID, HEY, WE DO NOT ACCEPT UKRAINIAN ADOPTION.
TO US, THERE IS NO SUCH THING.
THESE CHILDREN ARE ORPHANS.
SO WE WILL TAKE THIS ONE WHO IS 16 AWAY BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BE PART OF THE RUSSIAN ARMY.
IT WAS INTERESTING HOW THEY BEHAVED WITH THAT CHILD.
THEY OFFERED HIM, A 16-YEAR-OLD, HIS OWN CAR, HIS OWN HOUSE, LOTS OF ALCOHOL, LOTS OF GIRLS.
HE EVENTUALLY SAID, YEAH WHY NOT?
I AM IN A WAR ZONE AND YOU ARE OFFERING ME AN EXTRAORDINARY LIFE.
HE WENT AWAY TREAT HE WAS 16.
HE REALIZED WHEN HE HAD BEEN AWAY FOR A FEW MONTHS THERE WERE GOING TO PUT HIM IN THE RUSSIAN ARMY AND HE DECIDED AT THAT POINT TO ESCAPE.
HE MANAGED TO GET BACK TO UKRAINE.
WE INTERVIEW HIM IN THE PROGRAM.
THE IDEA THAT THE RUSSIANS DON’T ACCEPT ANY FORM OF ADOPTION, WE CANNOT CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THAT IT’S THE CASE.
BUT WE DO KNOW IT IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHERE A UKRAINIAN CHILD HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE UKRAINIAN ADOPTION.
>> I WANT TO ASK ABOUT REPORTING THIS.
THIS REQUIRED YOU TO GO INTO A WAR ZONE.
WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE?
HOW DID YOU REPORT ON THIS?
>> I HAVE WORKED FOR THE BBC IN THE U.K. FOR A LONG TIME.
I HAVE DONE A LOT OF WARS AND REPORTING FOR THEM.
I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN UKRAINE SINCE 2014.
THIS WAS PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT.
ALL OF THE STORIES ARE IN FRESHLY LIBERATED UKRAINIAN TERRITORY.
THEY WERE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FRONT LINE.
YOU HAVE TO GO THERE TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING.
SO, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO BE PHENOMENALLY WELL-ORGANIZED BECAUSE THERE IS A CURFEW ALL DOWN THAT SIDE OF THE COUNTRY.
IF YOU ARE IN KHARKIV, ITSELF QUITE CLOSE TO THE FRONT AND YOU NEED TO TRAVEL EASTWARDS MAY BE TWO OR THREE KILOMETERS FROM THE FRONT, THERE IS A CURFEW.
YOU CANNOT SET OFF WHEN IT IS DARK.
YOU MAY DRIVE FOUR HOURS.
WE DROVE THROUGH FIELDS WITH QUITE A BIG CREW.
WE HAD SAFETY ADVISORS.
WE HAD ME AND CAMERAMAN.
WE HAD TRANSLATORS WITH US.
YOU SET UP ACROSS THE FIELDS AND GET VERY CLOSE TO THE FRONT LINE.
WHAT ALWAYS AMAZES ME ABOUT THESE SITUATIONS IS IT IS QUITE A FRIGHTENING PROCESS.
WE ARE ALL THERE PAID YOUR HEART GOES UP A FEW BEATS AND YOU THINK THAT ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
THERE ARE RUSSIAN DRONES EVERYWHERE AROUND HERE.
YOU WOULD BE UNLUCKY IF YOU WERE HIT BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY.
WHAT STRIKES ME EVERY TIME AS YOU GET TO PLACES WHERE YOU THINK THERE WILL BE NOBODY THERE.
IT WILL BE DESERTED.
WE ARRIVED AT A SMALL VILLAGE AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE TRYING TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE.
THEY ARE SO LOOSE -- USE TO INCOMING SHELLING THAT THEY WILL HEAR IT.
ONE OF THEM, THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF ONE OF THE CHILDREN COOKED US A BIG BARBECUE OUTSIDE AND IN THE BACKGROUND YOU COULD CURE INCOMING SHELLING.
YOU COULD HEAR SIRENS GOING OFF.
WE ARE SITTING THERE SAYING, ARE THEY OK WITH THIS?
THEY WOULD SAY, OK WITH WHAT?
EVERYTHING IS FINE.
IT IS A DAILY OCCURRENCE FOR THEM.
THEY THOUGHT NOTHING OF IT.
EXTRAORDINARY.
>> THE RESULT IS AN INCREDIBLE, POIGNANT, POWERFUL DOCUMENTARY.
PAUL KENYON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON TO GREATER BOSTON TO TALK WITH US ABOUT IT.
WATCH "CHILDREN OF UKRAINE" TONIGHT AT 10 TALK HERE ON CHANNEL TWO, ON THE PBS APPLE OR ONLINE AT PBS.ORG/FRONTLINE.
NEXT, AS MASSACHUSETTS CONTINUES TO EXPERIENCE A SEVERE LABOR SHORTAGE THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS, LARGELY FROM HAITI, IS ALSO SEEN AS A WAY TO SHORE UP THE STATE WORKFORCE.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE SHORTAGE AND HOW SOME NEWLY ARRIVED WORKERS ARE HELPING FILL IT.
>> THE ARRIVAL OF THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS IS GENERALLY FRAMED AS A CRISIS, BUT THIS WAVE OF NEWCOMERS COULD BE WHAT MASSACHUSETTS NEEDS.
>> THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS IN GENERAL IN OUR STATE IS A REALLY UNTAPPED TALENT POOL.
>> UNTAPPED TALENT THAT COULD HELP FILL A DESPERATE NEED FOR WORKERS.
FOR EVERY PERSON LOOKING FOR A JOB IN MASSACHUSETTS THERE ARE TWO OPENINGS.
HEALTH CARE IS ESPECIALLY HARD-HIT WITH ABOUT 19,000 OPEN JOBS.
AT SALEM HOSPITAL RECENT ARRIVALS FROM HAITI LIKE SUNITA AND HER PARTNER ISRAEL ARE FILLING CRITICAL CLEANING JOBS.
>>[SPEAKING FRENCH] >> WITHOUT THE HOUSEKEEPERS, WITHOUT THE CLEANING OF THE ROOMS, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AS MANY PATIENTS AS WE DO.
>> ACROSS THE STATE NEARLY 20% OF THE JOBS ARE UNFILLED.
WHILE SHE WORKS, JOSEPH IS HOME WITH THEIR CHILDREN, FOR NOW AN EMPTY COLLEGE DORM TURNED INTO A SHELTER.
AFTER THE TWO SWAPOUT, JOSEPH CLOCKED IN FOR THE OVERNIGHT SHIFT.
>> THIS YOUNG GENTLEMAN CAME AND SAID HE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE NIGHT SHIFT.
THE GENERAL MANAGER WAS LIKE, REALLY?
IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT FOR US TO FILL THAT SHIFT.
>> JOSEPH KNOWS MANY IN THE COUNTRY DO NOT WANT MIGRANTS TO COME, BUT HE SAYS THE U.S.
NEEDS PEOPLE LIKE HIM AND HIS WIFE.
>>[SPEAKING FRENCH] >> TODAY NEARLY 50% OF NURSING ASSISTANCE, HEALTH AIDES, AND PERSONAL CARE AIDES IN MASSACHUSETTS ARE IMMIGRANTS AND THERE IS A HUGE NEED FOR MORE OF THESE WORKERS AT PLACES LIKE BLAIR HOUSE, A NURSING HOME AND ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
>> I DON’T KNOW OF ANYBODY NOT STRUGGLING TO FIND PEOPLE.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY A CHALLENGE HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS.
WE RUN 24 HOURS A DAY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK 365 DAYS A YEAR.
IT PUTS IN A TIGHT LABOR MARKET A REAL CHALLENGE ON THOSE OF US TRYING TO PROVIDE CARE.
>> THE CHALLENGE WILL ONLY GROW AS THE STATE POPULATION AGES.
OVER THE NEXT DECADE, THIS WORK IN FACILITIES AND PRIVATE HOMES IS PROJECTED TO SEE THE BIGGEST JOB GROWTH OF ANY OCCUPATION.
>> WE ARE NOT UNIQUE TO ANYBODY ELSE IN OUR INDUSTRY.
WE HAVE ALL TURNED INTO EMIGRANTS TO HELP US FILL THESE SLOTS.
>> AT SALEM HOSPITAL SHE IMAGINES ADVANCING IN HEALTH CARE CAREER AND HAS STARTED BY LEARNING ENGLISH.
>>[SPEAKING FRENCH] >> NEXT, DO YOU EVER WISH YOU COULD GO OUT FOR A BEER OR COCKTAIL WITH YOUR DOG?
NOW YOU CAN.
THERE IS A DOG PARK AND BAR COMBINATION IN EVERETT WHERE PETS CAN BE OFF LEASH AND OWNERS CAN SIT BACK WITH A COLD ONE.
HALEY LERNER WENT TO THE PARK NINE DOG PARK TO SEE FOR HERSELF AND JOINS ME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
>> IS THIS PLACE A BAR OR A DOG PARK?
WHAT IS IT LIKE?
>> IT IS A PERFECT MIX OF BOTH.
YOU WALK IN AND THERE ARE SEATED AREAS WITH SEPARATE SECTIONS FOR THE DOGS AND A PLACE FOR YOU TO SIT AND EAT.
YOU GO IN AND SEE LOTS AND LOTS OF DOGS.
THEY ARE VERY CUTE.
ONE AREA IS A GATED LEASH FREE AREA AND IN THAT AREA THERE IS A BAR THAT IS FULL-SERVICE THAT YOU CAN GO TO LIKE A POOL AT A HOTEL, LIKE A SWIM UP BAR.
THE OFF LEASH AREA.
IN THAT AREA THERE IS AN OFF -- OUTDOOR SPOT THAT IS FENCED THAT YOU CAN GO IN AND OUT OF AND AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN GET FOOD FROM A FOOD TRUCK OUTSIDE.
THAT IS AN AREA WHERE THE DOGS HAVE TO BE ON LEASH.
>> THERE ARE DIFFERENT AREAS FROM PEOPLE -- FOR PEOPLE AND DOGS BUT YOU CAN HAVE THE DOG AT THE TABLE THOUGH?
>> IT JUST HAS TO BE ON POLICE BUT THERE IS A LITTLE HOOK ON EVERY TABLE TO PUT THE LEASH ON.
>> IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY THEY DON’T SUPPLY THE DOGS.
>> YOU HAVE TO BRING YOUR OWN DOG BUT WHEN YOU ARE IN THE OFF LEASH AREA IT IS A FREE-FOR-ALL WITH THE DOGS.
THEY ARE JUST PLAYING.
YOU ARE ABLE TO SIT AROUND WITH A BEER AND ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.
>> THERE ARE OTHER BARS WHERE YOU CAN BRING YOUR DOGS, PARTICULARLY ONES WITH OUTDOOR SEATING.
BUT THIS ISN’T THE SAME.
IT IS MORE DOG FOCUSED.
>> IT IS FULLY DOG FOCUSED.
IF THEY HAVE A LOT OF DOG THEMED EVENTS.
THEY HAVE SPECIFIC PARK RANGERS, AS THEY CALL THEM, IN THE ACTUAL OFF LEASH AREA STANDING AROUND MAKING SURE THERE ARE NO DOGFIGHTS.
THAT ANYTIME THERE IS A SCUFFLE, THEY BREAK IT UP.
IT IS VERY ORIENTED TOWARDS YOUR DOG’S SAFETY AND YOUR DOG BEING ABLE TO HAVE FUN WHERE YOU ARE.
>> I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
YOU GET A BUNCH OF DOGS TOGETHER.
SOONER OR LATER THERE WILL BE FRICTION.
>> THERE IS MORE REGULATION IN SAFETY.
ALL DOGS HAVE TO BE REGISTERED IN ADVANCE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THEIR VACCINES AND EVERYTHING IS ON FILE.
THEY KEEP UP WITH THE SAFETY OF THE DOGS IF THERE WERE TO BE AN INCIDENT WHERE A DOG IS POSING A SAFETY RISK THEY WOULD BE ASKED TO NOT RETURN.
THE OWNER SAYS IT HAS NOT HAPPENED MANY TIMES.
THEY ARE VERY ON TOP OF IT.
I WITNESSED GUARDS GOING AROUND MAKING SURE THE DOGS WEREN’T GETTING IN TOO MUCH TROUBLE WITH EACH OTHER.
MOST WERE JUST HAVING FUN.
>> YOU SPOKE TO PEOPLE AT THE BAR.
WHAT DID YOU HEAR?
>> THEY SAID THEY HAVE MET A LOT OF FELLOW DOG LOVERS AND IT IS GREAT SOCIAL ASIAN -- GREAT SOCIALIZATION FOR THEM AND THEIR DOGS.
I TALKED TO PEOPLE WITH HIGH ENERGY DOGS AND THEY SAID THEY NEEDED THIS IN THE WINTER IN BOSTON TO HAVE AN INDOOR SPACE FOR DOGS TO RUN AROUND.
>> WE HAVE VIDEO FROM SOME OF THOSE FOLKS.
>> I HAVE KIND OF A SHY DOG.
I LOVE IT.
HE HAS BEEN SOCIALIZING MORE.
I MOVED HERE FROM KANSAS OCTOBER OF 2022.
BEING AN ADULT AND MAKING FRIENDS IS HARD.
PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE FRIENDS I HAVE MADE SINCE I MOVED HERE HAVE ALL BEEN HERE BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS SUPER FRIENDLY.
>> MY NEIGHBORS AND I COME ALL THE TIME.
I AM COMING ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT TO LET MY DOG RUN AROUND.
I LOVE IT.
THERE AREN’T MANY INDOOR SPACES FOR DOGS TO HANG OUT.
I LIVE IN CHELSEA.
IT IS A GREAT WALKING PATH HERE.
THERE AREN’T MANY DOG PARKS IN THE AREA.
IT IS A GREAT WAY FOR THEM TO LET OFF STEAM AND FOR ME TO HAVE FUN AND ENJOY MY COMMUNITY.
>> IT IS NICE FOR YOUR DOG TO SOCIALIZE AS MUCH AS YOU DO.
THEY STAY HOME WHEN YOU WORK.
THEY WANT TO HAVE FUN TOO.
>> WHEN DID THIS OPEN UP AND WHERE DID THE IDEA COME FROM?
>> THEY ARE CELEBRATING THEIR ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY THIS WEEK.
THE OWNERS -- IDEA CAME FROM OWNERS EMILY AND TESS.
THEY OWN IT WITH TESS’S BROTHER.
THEY HAVE A DOG UNDERDOG OVERHEATED A LOT IN THE HEAT.
IN THE SUMMER GOING TO A DOG PARK WAS NOT IDEAL BECAUSE OF THE HOST CONDITION.
THEY GOT THE IDEA OF MASHING TOGETHER A FUN BAR AND A DOG PARK.
EMILY CAME FROM A BUSINESS BACKGROUND.
TESS CAME FROM A CONSTRUCTION SIDE.
I THINK THEY TOGETHER HAD AN IDEA OF, WHAT IF WE COULD DO BOTH?
>> ARE THERE COCKTAILS FOR THE DOGS?
>> THERE ARE TREATS AND THINGS AVAILABLE FOR THE DOG DOES WELL, LITTLE PUPPY DRINKS AND ALL THE CRAFT COCKTAILS THEY HAVE ON-SITE OUR DOG THEMED WITH LOTS OF FUNNY NAMES.
BARK SIDE OF THE MOON IS ONE OF THEM, VERY CUTE.
>> FOR CAT LOVERS AMONG THE VIEWING AUDIENCE, I BELIEVE THERE IS A NEW CAT CAFÉ COMING AS WELL?
>> YES, IN BEACON HILL THERE IS A SANCTUARY CAFÉ COMING THAT SHOULD OPEN CLOSE TO THE END OF THIS MONTH OR NEXT MONTH.
IT WILL BE A CAT CAFÉ BOOKSTORE HYBRID.
YOU CAN SHOP AND BUY BOOKS AND HAVE A LITTLE TREAT AND THERE WILL BE LOTS OF CATS AROUND.
>> UNLIKE THE DOG PARK, THE CAT CAFÉ YOU DON’T BRING YOUR OWN CATS.
>> I DON’T THINK CATS WOULD WANT TO BE BROUGHT TO A RANDOM CAFÉ.
THEY’RE PRETTY DIFFERENT THAN DOGS.
THERE WILL BE CATS ALREADY THERE.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WILL DO IS SO OPENING WHILE THE CATS GET ADJUSTED TO THE SPACE.
THE BOOKSTORE AND CAFÉ WILL OPEN FIRST AND IN A LITTLE BIT THE CATS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO VISIT.
>> AMAZING.
I WANT TO GO TO BOTH THESE PLACES.
THANK YOU FOR COMING TO TELL US ABOUT IT.
HALEY LERNER, THANKS SO MUCH.
THAT’S IT FOR TONIGHT.
I WILL BE BACK TOMORROW.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
GOOD NIGHT.

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