>> FROM OUR STATE HOUSE STUDIO IN MONTGOMERY, I'M TODD STACY, WELCOME TO "CAPITOL JOURNAL."

THE SMALL EAST ALABAMA TOWN OF DADEVILLE AND INDEED THE WHOLE STATE IS IN MOURNING TONIGHT AS THE NAMES EMERGED FROM THE FOUR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WERE SHOT AND KILLED DURING A SWEET 16 BIRTHDAY PARTY SATURDAY NIGHT.

THOSE WHO ARE CONFIRMED KILLED IN THE MASS SHOOTING WERE SIAH COLLINS, A 19 YEAR OLD FROM OPELIKA; CORBIN HOLSTON, A 23 YEAR OLD FROM DADEVILLE, KEKE SMITH, A 17 YEAR OLD FROM DADEVILLE, AND PHIL DOWDELL, AND 18 YEAR OLD FROM CAMP HILL WHO WAS SET TO PLAY COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR JACKSONVILLE STATE LATER THIS YEAR.

THERE WERE AT LEAST 28 PEOPLE INJURED FROM THE SHOOTING, ACCORDING TO THE ALABAMA LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, THOUGH IT IS UNCLEAR HOW MANY OF THOSE RECEIVED GUNSHOT WOUNDS.

AS OF THIS RECORDING, STATE INVESTIGATORS HAVE NOT SAID WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A SUSPECT IN CUSTODY OR WANTED.

OFFICIALS ARE ASKING PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE SHOOTING TO COME FORWARD TO AUTHORITIES.

THOSE WHO MAY HAVE INFORMATION ARE URGED TO CALL ALEA'S CRIME INFORMATION HOTLINE AT 1-800-392-8011 OR EMAIL AT SBI.

INVESTIGATIONS@ALEA.

GOV OR CONTACT CENTRAL ALABAMA CRIME STOPPERS AT 1-833-AL1-STOP OR AT WWW.215STOP.COM.

HUNDREDS OF MOURNERS GATHERED FOR A PRAYER VIGIL SUNDAY ON THE STREETS OF DOWNTOWN DADEVILLE.

STUDENTS HAVE BEEN IN SHOCK, COMFORTING ONE ANOTHER OVER THE TRAGIC LOSS OF CLOSE FRIENDS.

DADEVILLE HIGH STUDENTS RETURNED TO CLASS MONDAY, WHERE TALLAPOOSA COUNTY SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND PORTER SAID COUNSELORS WOULD BE PRESENT.

GOVERNOR KAY IVEY WAS SPEAKING IN CAPITAL CITY TODAY WHERE THE DADEVILLE SHOOTING WAS HEAVY ON HER MIND AND THOSE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MONTGOMERY ROTARY CLUB.

IVEY OFFERED HER CONDOLENCES AND SAID IT WAS UNACCEPTABLE FOR SUCH VIOLENT CRIME TO OCCUR IN ALABAMA.

>> PRIORITY NUMBER 1 RIGHT NOW IS TO SUPPORT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS AS THEY WORK TO EFFECTIVELY BRING ANYONE RESPONSIBLE TO JUSTICE.

EVEN IN THIS TIME OF GRIEVING, THERE'S AN PORN MISSION AND THAT ABSOLUTELY MUST BE THE FOCUS.

THE CITY OF DADE INVITE AND OUR BELOVED ALABAMA WILL PERCENT VEER.

>> MEMBERS OF THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE BLACK CAUCUS GATHERED IN BIRMINGHAM TODAY FOR A NEWS CONFERENCE RAISING AWARENESS OF LEGISLATION THEY SAY COULD HELP CURB GUN CRIME IN ALABAMA.

>> DURING THAT INTERVIEW ON "CAPITOL JOURNAL" JUST DAYS BEFORE THE MASS SHOOTING IN DADEVILLE I SAID THESE WORDS: I DON'T MIND THE STATE OF ALABAMA AND GOVERNOR IVEY TO COME OUT AFTER A SCHOOL SHOOTING HAS HAPPENED, LIKES THE GOVERNOR IN TENNESSEE WHO IS NOW SAYING HE DOES SUPPORT SOME TYPE OF RED FLAG LEGISLATION.

I WENT ON TO SAY.

I DON'T WANT LISTEN ALABAMA TO HAVE TO RESPOND TO A MASS SHOOTING BEFORE WE DO SOMETHING!

BUT YET IT HAPPENED.

JUST THREE DAYS LATER.

AND WE'RE STANDING HERE.

WE MUST DO SOMETHING.

I AM TIRED OF HEARING THE WAILS AND THE CRIES OF PARENTS AND FAMILIES THAT HAVE LOST THEIR LOVED ONES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE NOT ACTED.

WE MUST DO SOMETHING!

>> WE HAVE A GUN PROBLEM.

ALABAMA.

NO CHILD IN ALABAMA SHOULD BE AFRAID OF GETTING SHOT AND KILLED AT A SWEET 16 BIRTHDAY PARTY.

NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE IN THEIR SCHOOLS OR FEAR ONE OF THEIR CLASSMATES BRINGING THEIR PARENT'S GUNS ON CAMPUS.

NO TEENAGER IN ALABAMA SHOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE AN ASSAULT RIFLE OFF THE STREETS THAT IS DESIGNED SOLELY TO KILL AS MANY PEOPLE AS RESPONSIBLE.

>> THE ALABAMA COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM IS CELEBRATING ITS 60 TH YEAR IN EXISTENCE THIS YEAR.

ON MAY 3, 1963, LEGISLATION ESTABLISHING WHAT WOULD BECOME THE ACCS WAS SIGNED INTO LAW, CREATING A UNIFIED SYSTEM OF INSTITUTIONS TO FOCUS ON ACCESSIBLE TRAINING IN "“ARTS AND SCIENCES AND IN USEFUL SKILLS AND TRADES.

"” TODAY, MORE THAN 155,000 STUDENTS FROM EVERY WALK OF LIFE RECEIVE EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT AN ALABAMA COMMUNITY OR TECHNICAL COLLEGE.

>> I WOULD PUT THE PRESIDENTS AS A GROUP IN THIS SYSTEM TODAY UP AGAINST ANY OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM IN THE NATION.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT HELPING EVERYONE THAT WE CAN PERSUADE TO COME AND SEEK HELP.

>> I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE A ROLE IN WHICH WE GIVE HOPE EACH AND EVERY DAY THAT WE COME TO WORK.

WE PUT WINGS ON STUDENTS' DREAMS.

CERTAINLY OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGES PROSECUTE CREATING A HIGHLY SKILLED AND HIGHLY EDUCATED WORKFORCE AND WE ARE A STRONG ECONOMIC RESOURCE FOR THE STATE.

WE ARE 24 COLLEGES, 144,000 STUDENTS, AND 9700 FACULTY AND STAFF THAT FOCUS EVERY DAY ON SUCCESS FOR OUR STUDENTS, EVERY DAY, LEADING TO HOPE, OPPORTUNITIES, AND JOBS.

>> INK-GRAM STATE, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING AS THE SOLE PROVIDER OF THE PRISON INSTITUTION IS PROVING THIS IS IMPORTANT.

EVEN BEFORE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING MADE THE WAY TO CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE WAY WE TREAT EVERYTHING EVERYBODY HERE IN PAYMENT, THERE YOU WERE AS A LIGHT ENCOURAGING US TO WANTED MORE AND TO STRIVE HARDER.

THERE YOU WERE, BISHOP STATED AND OTHERS ENSURING THOSE WHO LOOKED DIFFERENT ARE LOOKED OVER GET A CHANCE ON THIS PATH FORWARD.

THE ALABAMA COMMUNITIES SYSTEM, THE PREMIER WORKFORCE ENTITY.

THIS IS THE PATH FORWARD.

>> RECENTLY REPORTED COST OVERRUNS ON THE ONGOING PRISON CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN ELMORE COUNTY ARE BECOMING A CONCERN TO STATE LAWMAKERS.

LAST MONTH, THE PRISON FINANCE AUTHORITY INCREASED THE SPENDING CAP MORE THAN $350 MILLION DOLLARS, FROM $623 MILLION TO $975 MILLION FOR THE ELMORE PROJECT.

LAST WEEK RESPONDING TO REPORTERS, SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM GREG REED SAID THAT EVEN WITH INFLATION THOSE INCREASES WERE UNEXPECTED.

>> WHAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR IS THAT THE BUDGET CHAIRS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR DETAIL ON THE PRISON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THING.

WE'RE WELL AWARE BECAUSE OF INFLATION THERE'S A SERIOUS ISSUE FOR US AND THAT'S DIFFICULTY FOR US TO MANAGE AT THE MOST BECAUSE THE COST BUILDING THINGS, ESPECIALLY FACILITIES LIKE A PRISON, HAS GONE UP ASTRONOMICALLY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING NOBODY CALLS AND NOBODY CREATED.

WE'RE JUST HAVING TO FIGURE OUT A WE DEAL WITH IT AND THAT'S A STOIC THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND THE JUST SO THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS THE GOING ON THERE.

WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRISON PROGRAM.

WE HAVE MADE VERY STRONG COMMITMENTS TO THAT.

IT'S PORCH.

WE ARE STILL SUFFERING FROM SOME OF THE LAWSUITS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

WE HAVE ISSUES WE'RE WILLING TO MAG.

IF THERE ARE COST OVERRUNS WE TRY TO CHALLENGE THAT THE BEST WE K BUT THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE 20 CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD ON WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE PRINT POLICEMAN IS A REQUIREMENT FOR US.

>> THE ALABAMA LEGISLATURE RETURNS TO ACTION TOMORROW FOR THE 11 TH LEGISLATIVE DAY.

THE HOUSE CONVENES AT 1:00 AND THE SENATE COMES IN AT 2:30.

IT IS EXPECTED TO BE ANOTHER THREE LEGISLATIVE DAY WEEK.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH CAM WARD OF THE BUREAU OF PARDONS AND PAROLES.B >> JOINING ME NEXT IS CAM WARD DIRECTOR OF THE ALABAMA BUREAU OF PATCH PARDONS AND PAROLES.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ISSUES I HAVE NOT TO DO GET YOUR TAKE ON, MAINLY DEALING WITH LEGISLATION GOING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.

ONE THAT HAS MADE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND IS SITTING ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESKS.

THAT IS THE GOOD TIME LEGISLATION.

IT HAS TO DO WITH INCENTIVE ADVERTISEMENT WHENITH MATES ARE IN EDUCATE AND NECESSITY CAN ACCRUE FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR WITH TIME OFF OF THEIR SENTENCE.

THIS REFORMS THAT AND MAKES IT MORE STRICT AND MAKES IT TO WHERE YOU CAN LOSE THAT "GOOD TIME" OBVIOUSLY AS A RESULT OF THAT DEPARTMENT OF TEE GETTING SHOD AND KILLED A YEAR AGO.

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THIS BILL?

IT MATE NOT DIRECTLY AFFECT YOU AT PATCH BUT YOU'RE THAT SAME REALM AND I'M WONDERING WHAT YOUR OPINION ON THIS WAS?

>> THE GOVERNOR HAD AN EXECUTIVE ORDER BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE WENT IN SESSION.

AND HER LEADERSHIP ON THIS SPEEDER SPEARHEADED THIS THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.

SO I DO COMMEND OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNOR AND I COMMEND THAT THE LEGISLATORS WHO PASSED THIS.

IT'S NEEDED IN THAT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS GOOD TIME SHOULD BE ABOUT ONE THINGS -- DID YOU DO GOOD?

THEREFORE YOU HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO DO GOOD AND GET OUT EARLY.

OR YOU DID BAD AND DON'T GET OUT EARLY.

THE GOOD TIME WAS ALWAYS WANTED PUT THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED BAD -- SUCH AS IN THE OFFICERS' CASE YOU MENTIONED WITH THE ESCAPE AND ASSAULT ON AN OFFICER THAT DIDN'T OCCUR.

THE BAD SHOULD COULDN'T AGAINST THE GOOD.

AND I'M GLAD TO TOE SEE THE GOVERNOR'S PASSAGE OF THAT BILL.

>> SINCE SHE HAS NOT SIGNED IT -- >> SHE SIGNED IT ON FRIDAY.

>> SHE DID?

>> YEAH.

THINGS ARE GOING FAST.

>> THERE ARE 3 DAY WORK, WE AND IT FLIES FAST AND FURIOUS YEAH!

THE REASON I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IS WHETHER I WAS CURIOUS SHE WOULD EXECUTIVE AMEND IT BUT THEY'RE CLOSE IN MEASURE SO I THINK THAT THE LAW.

>> THE LAW REFLECTS THE SPIRIT OF HER EXECUTIVE ORDERS.

I THINK IT WAS A GOOD BILL AND I THINK IT REFLECTED WHAT THE INTENT OF HER EXECUTIVE ORDERS WERE.

>> THERE'S ALSO LEGISLATION IN THE BODY RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A PAROLE BILL DEALING WITH THE BOARD ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO PUT GUIDELINES ON THE BOARD, MAYBE DIRECT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO, OVERSIGHT WISE, WITH PAROLE DECISIONS THAT COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

THIS IS FROM REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS ENGLAND.

I THINK SO YOU HAVE SEEP THIS BEFORE.

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON IT AS DIRECTOR.

>> I KNOW WHAT CHRIS'S INTENTIONS ARE.

I GET IT.

THERE'S A CONCERN THAT THE BOARD HAS GUIDELINES AND TO THEY FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OR NOT.

THEY'RE VOLUNTARY AND NOT PRESUMPTIVE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT CHRIS IS GETTING AT.

I THINK HILLS INTENTIONS ARE GOOD AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE'S FIVE-DAY FORECAST OR6 PIECES OF THE BILL AS OPPOSED TO THE GUIDELINES.

THERE'S AN ADVISORY COUNCIL.

I THINK SO THAT THE IDEA THAT THE GUIDELINES ARE BAD IS NOT THE ISSUE.

I THINK WHAT REPRESENTATIVE ENGLAND IS PROBABLY WANTING IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES.

WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW -- AND YORK FOR THE BOARD.

BUT AT THE END THE DAY EVERYBODY IS GOING TO FOLLOW WHATEVER THE LAW IS THAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSES.

PASS WHAT YOU WANT TO PASS.

IF IT'S SIGNED BY THE GLOVER AND GOES INTO LAW WE WILL ENFORCE THE LAW AS WRITTEN.

AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU SEE A HUGE INCREASE IN THE PARDONS.

THAT BORED IS STILL PASSING A LOW PAROLE RATE.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A POSITION ON THE BILL.

I THINK THERE ARE THINGS IN IT THAT ARE PRETTY GOOD.

INTERIOR THINGS IN THERE THAT AREN'T NECESSARY.

BUT IF I WERE HIM I WOULD BREAKS IT INTO MULTIPLE PIECES AND THAT WAY YOU COULD PASS THE GOOD PARTS AND THE BAD PARTS YOU COULD LET GO THE WAYSIDE.

>> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR BOARD AND THEN THE AGENCY ON WHO GETS PAROLED.

>> PRETTY MUCH WE DEAL WITH YOU ONCE YOU HAVE BEEN ON PAROLED OR ARE ONBRATION.

77 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SEE ARE ON PROBATION.

THE LEFT ARE ON PAROLE P WE HAVE 44,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE ON PAROLE THAT WE OVERSEE.

THAT'S HEFTY.

>> THAT'S A PRETTY BIG PART.

SPEAKING OF THAT, THERE WAS A PASSENGER OF BILLS WHERE THE PROSECUTORS, THE ALABAMA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, MAYORS.

LT.

GOVERNOR WAS THERE, HAVING TO DO WITH A CRIME PACKAGE IF YOU WILL.

ONE OF HAVING TO DO WITH RETAIL THEFT.

A COUPLE OF GUN MEASURES IN THERE AND NOVELTY HAD TO GET INTO TOO MUCH SPECIFICS, BUT HOW DO PACKAGES LIKE -- WHEN THEY START IMPACTING THOSE WHO GO TO PRISON, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT YOUR AGENCY OR MAYBE EVEN WHEN THEY'RE BEFORE BEING SUPERVISED?

>> FOR IT, WHATEVER THE LEGISLATURE SAID WE WANT THIS TO BE THE LAWYER' SIGN IS.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS ONE IT'S HARD TO ARGUE WITH THE FENTANYL BILL.

EVERYBODY AGREES.

IT'S RETAIL THEY HAVE TO DO.

IF THE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO TEAK THE CITIZENS GUIDELINES.

PAY OVERREACHING ROLE IS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DECIDE ON TO CHANGE THE SENTENCING GUIDELINES OR MANDATORY MINIMUMS, MY POTION IS THAT THIS STILL NEEDS TO BE A PERIOD OF SUPERVISION SUPERVISOR WHEN YOU COME OUT.

THE DATA SHOWS, NOT JUST ALABAMA BUT THE MORE SUPERVISION WHAT YOU HAVE WHEN YOU COME OUT OF PRISONMENT OR JAIL THE BETTER CHANCES ARE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RECIDIVATE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WANT TO EOZ -- END OF EXTENSIVE.

IF YOU END OFF STREET WARN, YOU WOULD BE OUT-OF-THE DOOR.

AND THE PAST ARE GOOD YOU WILL DO SOMETHING TO GO BARK TO PRISON AND COMMIT A CRIME.

MY -- WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE IT WORK BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO TRANSFER BACK INTO SOCIETY BETTER AGAIN.. >> THIS WAS SORT OF THE WHOLE CONTROVERSY ARE THE REALIZES THAT SAID EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT MADE BIG HEADLINES AND PRODUCED LEGISLATION?

AND A LOT MUCH UPROAR FROM FOCUS IN THIS BUILDING BECAUSE, LIKES YOU SAID, WHEN YOU TALKS ABOUT MONIES OF MINUTE INMATES IT REALIZES HEADLINES AND FEAR AND THERE WAS NOT MAYBE A GOOD ENOUGH REALIZATION THAT YOUR HONOR YOU KNOW THAT WAS BY DESIGN.

THERAPIST REACHING THE END OF THEIR SENTENCE AND BEFORE THEY WERE REALIZED, THE LEGISLATURE WAS SEEKING TO SET UP THAT SUPERVISORY PERIOD TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, INSTEAD OF JUST YOU'RE TURNED LOOSE AND LETTER TO YOUR OBEY DEVICES.

>> THE LEGISLATURE DID SOMETHING GOOD AND SAID YOU WILL ELECTRONICALLY MONITOR THEM.

SO FAR TODAY WE'RE AT 835 PEOPLE ROUGHLY HAVE BEEN RELEASED.

>> OF THAT NUMBER?

>> FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS THEY HAVE RELEASED 835.

WE WERE THERE STANDING BY WHEN THINK COME OUT TO MONITOR THEM.

AND OF THAT 835, I THINK THE RECIDIVISM RATE STANDS AT 5.5 PERCENT WHICH IS WAY BELOW THE 30 PERCENT RECIDIVISM RATE.

WE STILL HAVEN'T HAD A VITAL OFFENSE.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY SOMETHING WON'T HAPPEN.

BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU DO SUPERVISOR, WHATEVER THE POLICYMAKERS THINK, I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A STRONG SUPERVISION IN PLACE WHEN THEY LEAVE, WHETHER IT'S ELECTRONIC MONITORING OR DRUG TREATMENT.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SUPERVISION, IT GOALS THROUGH THE ROOF.

>> I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT -- DOESN'T IT REALLY INVOLVE YOUR AGENCY BECAUSE IT'S THE ATTORNEY, AND THE NUMBER OF CORRECTIONS, BUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TOOK OVER SOME OF THE LITIGATION GOING ON AT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS BY REMOVING THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY CHAMPION GENERAL STATUS OF SOME OF THEIR LAWYERS?

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IT HAPPENED WITH STATE ALLEGES.

YOU OVERSEE AN AGENCY.

ARE YOU WONDERING IF YOU'RE NEXT OR SOMEBODY ELSE IS NOT IN NEVERTHELESS OF THAT STATUTE BEING ANY QUESTION.

>> BEAT IS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE TO'S GENERAL OFFICE.

IN THAT THEFT A LOT OF -- WE ARE ONE OF CONTRACT WHERE YOU CONTRACT OUTSIDE OF YOUR DEPUTY GENERALS.

SO OF MY FIVE ATTORNEYS WE DON'T HAVE OUTSIDE LITIGATION AND DOC IS IN FEDERAL COST ON MULTIPLE ISSUES AND I'M SEWER THAT HAS TO BE DRIVING 40 THAT OF THE LITIGATION.

THAT'S PRETTY INTENSE I HAVE AND I -- MAYBE A QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONERS, BUT HE WOULD AGREE THAT'S HARD PROBLEM TO DEAL WITH.

>> GIVEN, WE SHOULDN'T BRUSH OVER -- AND THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE WANT TO WORK YOU DO AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR A LOT OF DETAILS COME OUT.

AND IT'S PAIN FLEET STOW, THE SLOW, THE MEN COMING OUT OF HIRE BUST IT BEFORE I HAD FORWARDS THE TRAJECTORIES AS YOU SAY.

PROBABILITY SEAT SAW A TRANSFER STRUCTURE.

DOESNT'T THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE WORLD, THE REALM, ONCE YOUR REACTIONS -- WHAT WENT THROUGH YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU 1ST HEAD?

>> WELT, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, ONE YOU'RE SAD.

TWO, IT'S TRAGEDY.

THAT'S JUST HUMAN.

THAT'S JUST FORGET MIRAZA OFFICIAL.

AND IT'S SAD AND UNNECESSARY, AND DAY., YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THERE'S GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN THE HEAD OF WHAT DO WE COULD TO ADDRESS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUSH TO, YOU KNOW, LOCK UP THIS AND THAT OR A PUSH TO -- FIVE OR CIRCUS DIFFERENT FRONTS.

I WOULD SAY MORE PERSONAL THAT NEVER ANYTHING ELSE, ONE OF, LET'S EVERYBODY, DID THERE'S A MORNING MARYLAND GOING TO ON.

IT'S SUCH A TRAGEDY THAT OCCURRED.

22, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENED, BE SURE TO UNDERSTAND THE FACTS THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THERE, THE LOCAL, STATE, COUNTY COMMERCIALS LOOK AT AND THE EFFORT THEY HAVE AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRIAL TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE FOLLOW THEIR LEAD.

THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS ON A LOWELL LEFT NO MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.

LET THEM DRIVE THE CARS FOR TREATS, ZERO POSTED TO ALTHOUGH OF THUS DID AND THINKS TIES IT FROM HIRE RIGHT TO RIGHT HERE AND I THINK WE CAN DO MORE.

LET'S THEM DO THEIR JOB AND DESIGNED HOWIE SHOULD DRIFT IT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A TRAJECTORY.

IT'S SAD.

IT'S SENSELESS BECAUSE IT'S A 16-YEAR-OLD BIRTHDAY PARTY.

WE ALL HAVE KIDS.

YOU AND I BOTH.

AND IT'S SOMETHING NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE UP TO.

>> IT'S INTERESTING.

BECAUSE JUST LAST WEEK A SHOOTING HAPPENED ON SATURDAY.

LAST WEEK, MONDAY, I TALKED TO THE DARRELL BEATTYS AND I TALKED TO MERIKA COLEMAN ON THURSDAY, I THINK, BOTH ABOUT GRAND JURY THED STUFFER.

ON THE D.A.

'S THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PENINSULA AMENDMENTS AND NUMBER CREEP THE -- SEXUALLY VIOLENT CRIMINALS.

TOAL ASK THEM ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.

BUT I WANTED ME.

SO SEE HOW THIS COLEMAN.

HE IS A RED FLASH BILL AND BEING ON THE FACTS MAY NOT AID PLIED IN THIS CASE.

I GUESS MY POINT IS SOME OF THESE PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS THAT WE SOMETIMES HAVE AND THE NARRATIVE THAT WE WANT TO DRAW BASED ON -- YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT FACTS EMERGE.

>> THE PROBLEM WITH CRIMINAL JUSTICE IS, AND I LEARNED THIS FROM THE LEGISLATURE AND BOTH SIDES IS THAT EVERYONE WANTS A SIMPLE ANSWER TO A COMPLEX PROBLEM.

THE GOVERNOR THE TENNESSEE, WITH RED FLAGS.

IT SO WAS A PARTICULAR SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

I DOESN'T SORT EVERYTHING.

I MAY MAYBE SOMEBODY HAPPENED ON CERTAIN STANCES.

LIKE LONGER INCIDENCES NOR CERTAINTY PEOPLE DUDS APPLY BUT THERE'S NOT EVERY.

THERE'S KNOT ONE SELLING SINGLE SOLUTION TO A PARTICULAR PROBLEM.

I THINK LET THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DO THEIR JOB AND FOLLOW THEIR LEAGUE.

SO MANY TIMES WE WANTS TO PUT BURN BILL ONE LAY THAT WE THINK OF INFECTIONS EVERYTHING.

AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE IS SO MUCH MORE COMPLEX.

MY SIDE IS SUPERVISING PEOPLE ONCE ON PRORATION OR PAROLE.

THAT'S MY PIECE.

THERE'S ALSO A PRETRIAL.

THERE'S EDUCATION.

IT LOOKS LIKE JUVENILE VERIFIES AND SO MANY ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND YOU HAVE CAN'T DO THAT WITH ONE LAW BEING PASSED.

IT'S A VERY COMPLEX SUBJECT.

>> SMART MR.

BAIL WAS TALKING ABOUT DIVERGE APT PROGRAMS AND HOW OFTEN THOSE ARE AS OPPOSED TO PRINT TIME OR ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

AND LOTS OF IMPORTANT SUBJECTS.

APPRECIATE YOUR NIGHT.

AND COMING ON THE SHOW.

>> UNAWARE OF HAVING ME, TODD.

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN.

IS.

>> THAT'S OUR SHOW.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

WE WILL BE BACK TOMORROW AT 10:30 WITH MORE COVERAGE OF THE ALABAMA LEGISLATURE HERE ON ALABAMA PUBLIC TELEVISION.

FOR OUR "CAPITOL JOURNAL" TEAM, I'M TODD STACEY.