♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> COMING UP, WE'RE CONNECTING >>> COMING UP, WE'RE CONNECTING YOU WITH THE CREATIVITY AND YOU WITH THE CREATIVITY AND CULTURE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, CULTURE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING A GLASS ARTIST WITH AN INCLUDING A GLASS ARTIST WITH AN INCREDIBLE FIVE-DECADE CAREER.

INCREDIBLE FIVE-DECADE CAREER.

>> I FEEL SO FORTUNATE THAT THE >> I FEEL SO FORTUNATE THAT THE PIECES THAT I LIKE TO MAKE AND PIECES THAT I LIKE TO MAKE AND THE CONCEPTS THAT I LIKE TO THE CONCEPTS THAT I LIKE TO EXPLORE IN GLASS SEEM TO BE EXPLORE IN GLASS SEEM TO BE THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO COLLECT.

COLLECT.

>> A RENOWNED POET, PLAYWRIGHT, >> A RENOWNED POET, PLAYWRIGHT, AND EDUCATOR REFLECTS ON HER AND EDUCATOR REFLECTS ON HER PASSION AND HER JOURNEY.

PASSION AND HER JOURNEY.

>> I ALWAYS FELT THAT I WAS MORE >> I ALWAYS FELT THAT I WAS MORE THAN MALE OR FEMALE AND EVERYONE THAN MALE OR FEMALE AND EVERYONE WAS AND OUR SOULS WERE SO BIG WAS AND OUR SOULS WERE SO BIG THAT WE DIDN'T FIT INTO ANY THAT WE DIDN'T FIT INTO ANY IDENTITIES.

IDENTITIES.

>>> AND WE'LL TAKE YOU TO A >>> AND WE'LL TAKE YOU TO A NATURE CONSERVATORY WITH WINGS!

NATURE CONSERVATORY WITH WINGS!

>> SITES ALWAYS SUMMER HERE.

>> SITES ALWAYS SUMMER HERE.

SO WE ALWAYS SAY INSTEAD OF SO WE ALWAYS SAY INSTEAD OF GOING SOUTH, GO TO SOUTH GOING SOUTH, GO TO SOUTH DEERFIELD.

DEERFIELD.

>> JOIN US FOR THOSE STORIES AND >> JOIN US FOR THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS WE EXPLORE THE MORE AS WE EXPLORE THE CREATIVITY, CULTURE, AND CREATIVITY, CULTURE, AND COMMUNITY THAT MAKE US WESTERN COMMUNITY THAT MAKE US WESTERN NEW ENGLAND, UP NEXT ON NEW ENGLAND, UP NEXT ON "CONNECTING POINT."

"CONNECTING POINT."

>> SUPPORT FOR "CONNECTING >> SUPPORT FOR "CONNECTING POINT" IS PROVIDED BY OUR POINT" IS PROVIDED BY OUR CONTRIBUTING VIEWERS.

CONTRIBUTING VIEWERS.

TUESDAY,E TUESDAY,E -- TUESDAY,E TUESDAY,E -- ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> WELCOME AND THANKS FOR >>> WELCOME AND THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR "CONNECTING JOINING US FOR "CONNECTING POINT," YOUR SOURCE FOR POINT," YOUR SOURCE FOR CREATIVITY, CULTURE, AND CREATIVITY, CULTURE, AND COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITY.

I'M TONY LECHNER, IN FOR -- TONY I'M TONY LECHNER, IN FOR -- TONY GUNE, IN FOR ISOLATED.

GUNE, IN FOR ISOLATED.

ARTIST JOSH SIMPSON FIRST MADE ARTIST JOSH SIMPSON FIRST MADE GLASS IN 1971, WHILE SPENDING A GLASS IN 1971, WHILE SPENDING A WINTER SEMESTER AT GODDARD WINTER SEMESTER AT GODDARD COLLEGE.

COLLEGE.

NOW IN HIS SEVENTH DECADE OF NOW IN HIS SEVENTH DECADE OF LIFE, THE RESIDENT IS TODAY LIFE, THE RESIDENT IS TODAY CONSIDERED BY MANY TO BE ONE OF CONSIDERED BY MANY TO BE ONE OF THE BEST GLASS BLOWERS IN THE THE BEST GLASS BLOWERS IN THE WORLD.

WORLD.

PRODUCER DAVE FRASER VISITED PRODUCER DAVE FRASER VISITED WITH SIMPSON AS HE REFLECTED WITH SIMPSON AS HE REFLECTED BACK ON HIS AMAZING CAREER.

BACK ON HIS AMAZING CAREER.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> WHEN I STARTED TO BLOW GLASS, >> WHEN I STARTED TO BLOW GLASS, I NEVER FOR A MOMENT CONSIDERED I NEVER FOR A MOMENT CONSIDERED IT AS A POTENTIAL CAREER.

IT AS A POTENTIAL CAREER.

IT WAS JUST THE MOST FUN, IT WAS JUST THE MOST FUN, EXCITING THING THAT I COULD EXCITING THING THAT I COULD POSSIBLY DO AT THE TIME.

POSSIBLY DO AT THE TIME.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> FOR HALF A CENTURY, JOSH >> FOR HALF A CENTURY, JOSH SIMPSON HAS BEEN CREATING ART SIMPSON HAS BEEN CREATING ART OBJECTS FROM GLASS.

OBJECTS FROM GLASS.

HIS STUDIO IS THIS BIG RED BARN, HIS STUDIO IS THIS BIG RED BARN, JUST OFF THE MOHAWK TRAIL IN JUST OFF THE MOHAWK TRAIL IN SHELBURNE FALLS.

SHELBURNE FALLS.

>> I THINK ALL THE WORK THAT I >> I THINK ALL THE WORK THAT I DO IS IN SOME WAY RELATED TO DO IS IN SOME WAY RELATED TO SPACE, WHETHER PLANETS THAT I SPACE, WHETHER PLANETS THAT I MAKE GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT MAKE GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE AN ASTRONAUT IT'S LIKE TO BE AN ASTRONAUT ORBITING AROUND A SMALL LITTLE ORBITING AROUND A SMALL LITTLE WORLD, BUT I ALSO MAKE -- I MAKE WORLD, BUT I ALSO MAKE -- I MAKE PIECES THAT I CALL TECH TIGHTS PIECES THAT I CALL TECH TIGHTS THAT HAVE USED THE SAME FORMULA THAT HAVE USED THE SAME FORMULA OF GLASS AS METEORITES THAT HAVE OF GLASS AS METEORITES THAT HAVE FALLEN TO EARTH FROM OUTER FALLEN TO EARTH FROM OUTER SPACE.

SPACE.

I ALSO MAKE PLATES THAT I FEEL I ALSO MAKE PLATES THAT I FEEL MY IDEA ARE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO MY IDEA ARE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LOOK UP ON THE -- IN THE SKY ON LOOK UP ON THE -- IN THE SKY ON A PERFECT SUMMER NIGHT.

A PERFECT SUMMER NIGHT.

>> THE PROCESS STARTS WITH A >> THE PROCESS STARTS WITH A SMALL, RED-HOT MALLEABLE MASS OF SMALL, RED-HOT MALLEABLE MASS OF LIQUID ON THE END OF A BLOW LIQUID ON THE END OF A BLOW PIPE.

PIPE.

FIGHTING GRAVITY WITH EVERY FIGHTING GRAVITY WITH EVERY TURN, SIMPSON STOPS ONLY TO TURN, SIMPSON STOPS ONLY TO REHEAT AND THEN REWORK THE PIECE REHEAT AND THEN REWORK THE PIECE UNTIL HE'S SATISFIED WITH THE UNTIL HE'S SATISFIED WITH THE OUTCOME.

OUTCOME.

>> GLASS IS INSANELY HOT!

>> GLASS IS INSANELY HOT!

YOU CAN NEVER TOUCH IT.

YOU CAN NEVER TOUCH IT.

IT IS ONE MATERIAL THAT AS AN IT IS ONE MATERIAL THAT AS AN ARTIST I CAN NEVER, EVER TOUCH ARTIST I CAN NEVER, EVER TOUCH IT WITH MY HANDS.

IT WITH MY HANDS.

THE RESULT WOULD BE HORRIFIC.

THE RESULT WOULD BE HORRIFIC.

AND SO MY JOB IS TO CREATE AND SO MY JOB IS TO CREATE SOMETHING AND GET THAT LIQUID TO SOMETHING AND GET THAT LIQUID TO COOPERATE.

COOPERATE.

THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE.

THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES IT THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES IT FUN, IS THE FACT THAT YOU NEED FUN, IS THE FACT THAT YOU NEED TO GET AS CLOSE AS YOU POSSIBLY TO GET AS CLOSE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO THIS DOIRNTION DANGEROUS CAN TO THIS DOIRNTION DANGEROUS LIQUID IDEALLY WITHOUT BURNING LIQUID IDEALLY WITHOUT BURNING YOURSELF OR CLOSE ENOUGH TO FEEL YOURSELF OR CLOSE ENOUGH TO FEEL THE HEAT.

THE HEAT.

>> IN 1976, SIMPSON STARTED >> IN 1976, SIMPSON STARTED MAKING GLASS PLANETS, COMPLETE MAKING GLASS PLANETS, COMPLETE WITH OCEANS, CONNENTS -- WITH OCEANS, CONNENTS -- CONTINENTS, VOLCANOES AND CONTINENTS, VOLCANOES AND CLOUDS.

CLOUDS.

SOME OF THEM HAVE LEFT THIS SOME OF THEM HAVE LEFT THIS EARTH INTO OUTER SPACE, EARTH INTO OUTER SPACE, TRAVELING WITH HIS WIFE, TRAVELING WITH HIS WIFE, ASTRONAUT KATHERINE KATY ASTRONAUT KATHERINE KATY COLEMAN, WHO LIVED ON THE COLEMAN, WHO LIVED ON THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION FOR INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION FOR SEVERAL MONTHS IN 2011.

SEVERAL MONTHS IN 2011.

>> THE WAY HE LOOKS AT THIS, AT >> THE WAY HE LOOKS AT THIS, AT THE PIECE, THE WAY HE JUST IS SO THE PIECE, THE WAY HE JUST IS SO SURE THAT IF HE WANTS IT TO BE A SURE THAT IF HE WANTS IT TO BE A CERTAIN WAY, HE CAN JUST DO CERTAIN WAY, HE CAN JUST DO THAT.

THAT.

IT'S AN AWAY -- IN A WAY LIKE IT'S AN AWAY -- IN A WAY LIKE THE SPACE PROGRAM, WHERE PEOPLE THE SPACE PROGRAM, WHERE PEOPLE SAY, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET TO SAY, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET TO MARS.

MARS.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO WHEN WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO WHEN WE'RE READY.

WE'RE READY.

AND IT'S A LONG JOURNEY AND IT'S AND IT'S A LONG JOURNEY AND IT'S A LOT OF SMALL STEPS.

A LOT OF SMALL STEPS.

I SEE THAT IN HIS WORK AS WELL, I SEE THAT IN HIS WORK AS WELL, WHERE SOMETHING THAT HE'S BEEN WHERE SOMETHING THAT HE'S BEEN THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 40 THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COMBINATION OF GLASS, AND THEN COMBINATION OF GLASS, AND THEN WITH WHAT HE'S THEN BEEN WITH WHAT HE'S THEN BEEN LEARNING, I'LL SEE HIM KIND OF LEARNING, I'LL SEE HIM KIND OF GO BACK TO THAT AND GO, WOW, GO BACK TO THAT AND GO, WOW, THAT THING THAT I COULDN'T DO THAT THING THAT I COULDN'T DO BACK THEN, NOW I'VE GOT A WAY TO BACK THEN, NOW I'VE GOT A WAY TO DO THAT.

DO THAT.

>> JOSH AND KATY MARRIED IN 1997 >> JOSH AND KATY MARRIED IN 1997 AND ONE WOULD THINK THAT AND ONE WOULD THINK THAT MARRYING AN ASTRONAUT WAS THE MARRYING AN ASTRONAUT WAS THE REASON FOR THE CREATION OF THE REASON FOR THE CREATION OF THE PLANETS.

PLANETS.

BUT ACCORDING TO JOSH, THAT'S BUT ACCORDING TO JOSH, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

NOT THE CASE.

>> I WAS MAKING PLANETS LONG >> I WAS MAKING PLANETS LONG BEFORE I MET MY WIFE IT IS BEFORE I MET MY WIFE IT IS AMAZING TO ME THAT KATY JOINED AMAZING TO ME THAT KATY JOINED NASA IN 1992 AND SHE IS GOTTEN NASA IN 1992 AND SHE IS GOTTEN TO EXPLORE THE WORLD THE WAY I TO EXPLORE THE WORLD THE WAY I IMAGINE EXPLORING THE WORLD.

IMAGINE EXPLORING THE WORLD.

I MAKE THESE GLASS SPHERES AND I I MAKE THESE GLASS SPHERES AND I THINK ABOUT FLYING AROUND THOSE, THINK ABOUT FLYING AROUND THOSE, WHETHER IT'S AN UNDERWATER SCENE WHETHER IT'S AN UNDERWATER SCENE OR WHETHER I FEEL LIKE I'M AN OR WHETHER I FEEL LIKE I'M AN ASTRONAUT FLYING IN ORBIT AROUND ASTRONAUT FLYING IN ORBIT AROUND ONE.

ONE.

>> MANY OF THE PLANETS SIMPSON'S >> MANY OF THE PLANETS SIMPSON'S MADE HAVE BEEN PLANTED ON MADE HAVE BEEN PLANTED ON MOUNTAINTOPS, HIDDEN IN FORESTS, MOUNTAINTOPS, HIDDEN IN FORESTS, AND BURIED AT SEA ALL OVER THE AND BURIED AT SEA ALL OVER THE WORLD, AS PART OF HIS INFINITY WORLD, AS PART OF HIS INFINITY PROJECT.

PROJECT.

HE ESTIMATES THAT AT LEAST 3,000 HE ESTIMATES THAT AT LEAST 3,000 GLOBES HAVE BEEN HIDDEN IN GLOBES HAVE BEEN HIDDEN IN DIVERSE PLACES AROUND THE WORLD.

DIVERSE PLACES AROUND THE WORLD.

>> WHEN I MOVED HERE 40 YEARS >> WHEN I MOVED HERE 40 YEARS AGO, NO ONE WAS COLLECTING MY AGO, NO ONE WAS COLLECTING MY GLASS.

GLASS.

AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I SHOULD -- I SHOULD MAKE LITTLE SHOULD -- I SHOULD MAKE LITTLE SPHERES AND HIDE THEM AROUND THE SPHERES AND HIDE THEM AROUND THE WORLD, NOT WITH MY NAME ON THEM, WORLD, NOT WITH MY NAME ON THEM, BUT JUST HIDE THEM AND MAYBE BUT JUST HIDE THEM AND MAYBE SOMEDAY THEY'LL BE FOUND BY A SOMEDAY THEY'LL BE FOUND BY A RANDOM STRANGER OR BY A KID.

RANDOM STRANGER OR BY A KID.

AND IT'S KIND OF A PRESENT TO AND IT'S KIND OF A PRESENT TO GIVE TO SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE.

GIVE TO SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE.

>> SINCE LEARNING GLASS BLOWING >> SINCE LEARNING GLASS BLOWING IN THE EARLY 1970s, SIMPSON IN THE EARLY 1970s, SIMPSON HAS MADE THOUSANDS OF PLANETS, HAS MADE THOUSANDS OF PLANETS, AS WELL AS TREMENDOUS GLASS AS WELL AS TREMENDOUS GLASS PLATTERS, GOBLETS AND BOWLS.

PLATTERS, GOBLETS AND BOWLS.

THE LARGEST PLANET ARE A FOOD IN THE LARGEST PLANET ARE A FOOD IN DIAMETER AND WEIGH 50 POUNDS OR DIAMETER AND WEIGH 50 POUNDS OR MORE.

MORE.

-- A FOOT IN DIAMETER AND -- A FOOT IN DIAMETER AND QUESTIONING 50 POUNDS OR MORE.

QUESTIONING 50 POUNDS OR MORE.

>> I FEEL SO FORTUNATE THAT THE >> I FEEL SO FORTUNATE THAT THE PIECES THAT I LIKE TO MAKE AND PIECES THAT I LIKE TO MAKE AND THE WORK AND THE CONCEPTS THAT I THE WORK AND THE CONCEPTS THAT I LIKE TO EXPLORE IN GLASS SEEM TO LIKE TO EXPLORE IN GLASS SEEM TO BE THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO BE THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO COLLECT.

COLLECT.

AND I'VE JUST BEEN INCREDIBLY AND I'VE JUST BEEN INCREDIBLY LUCKY THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND LUCKY THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING AND WANT TO SHARE WHAT I'M DOING AND WANT TO SHARE THAT.

THAT.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> SPRINGFIELD POT LAUREATE >>> SPRINGFIELD POT LAUREATE MAGDALENA GOMEZ WAS JUST 17 MAGDALENA GOMEZ WAS JUST 17 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE FIRST YEARS OLD WHEN SHE FIRST PUBLICLY PERFORMED IN NEW YORK PUBLICLY PERFORMED IN NEW YORK CITY.

CITY.

HER CAREER AS A POET, HER CAREER AS A POET, PLAYWRIGHT, EDUCATOR, AND PLAYWRIGHT, EDUCATOR, AND ACTIVIST HAS GARNERED NUM RIS ACTIVIST HAS GARNERED NUM RIS AWARDS, ACCOLADES AND AWARDS, ACCOLADES AND RECOGNITION.

RECOGNITION.

HER MISSION TO PROVIDE OTHERS HER MISSION TO PROVIDE OTHERS WITH TOOLS FOR WITH TOOLS FOR SELF-DETERMINATION HAS ALSO LED SELF-DETERMINATION HAS ALSO LED HER TO TOUR NATIONALLY AS A HER TO TOUR NATIONALLY AS A KEYNOTE SPEAKER AND BECOME KEYNOTE SPEAKER AND BECOME COFOUNDER AND ARTISTIC DIRECTOR COFOUNDER AND ARTISTIC DIRECTOR OF TIATRO VEDA.

OF TIATRO VEDA.

>> I DISCOVERED NIT THE PUBLIC >> I DISCOVERED NIT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AT HUNTS POINT IN THE LIBRARY AT HUNTS POINT IN THE SOUTH BRONX WHERE I GREW UP.

SOUTH BRONX WHERE I GREW UP.

AND I DISCOVERED POETRY THERE AND I DISCOVERED POETRY THERE AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH IT AND AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH IT AND STARTED WRITING WHEN I WAS 8 STARTED WRITING WHEN I WAS 8 YEARS OLD.

YEARS OLD.

AND AT 17, I HAD A MENTOR.

AND AT 17, I HAD A MENTOR.

HER NAME WAS EMILY GLEN.

HER NAME WAS EMILY GLEN.

SHE IS ONE OF THE MOST WIDELY SHE IS ONE OF THE MOST WIDELY PUBLISHED YOUNG POT -- POTS IN PUBLISHED YOUNG POT -- POTS IN THE UNITED STATES.

THE UNITED STATES.

-- MOWETS -- POETS IN THE -- MOWETS -- POETS IN THE UNITED STATES.

UNITED STATES.

>> IN THE ARTIST STATEMENT ON >> IN THE ARTIST STATEMENT ON YOUR WEBSITE, IT SAYS I GREW UP YOUR WEBSITE, IT SAYS I GREW UP HARD, I LOVE HARDER.

HARD, I LOVE HARDER.

YOU HAVE MENTIONED IN PAST YOU HAVE MENTIONED IN PAST INTERVIEWS THAT YOU DIDN'T INTERVIEWS THAT YOU DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE A VOICE GROWING UP ALWAYS HAVE A VOICE GROWING UP AND YOU HAD TO FIGHT HARD TO AND YOU HAD TO FIGHT HARD TO HAVE ONE.

HAVE ONE.

HOW WERE YOU ABLE TO EVENTUALLY HOW WERE YOU ABLE TO EVENTUALLY FIND YOUR VOICE AND HOW HAS THAT FIND YOUR VOICE AND HOW HAS THAT INSPIRED OR INFLUENCED YOUR WORK INSPIRED OR INFLUENCED YOUR WORK THAT YOU DO TODAY?

THAT YOU DO TODAY?

>> POETRY READING WAS PIVOTAL.

>> POETRY READING WAS PIVOTAL.

I THINK THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT I THINK THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT MOMENT BECAUSE I READ MY WORK MOMENT BECAUSE I READ MY WORK AND I GOT SUCH A LOVING RESPONSE AND I GOT SUCH A LOVING RESPONSE FROM THE AUDIENCE.

FROM THE AUDIENCE.

AND I JUST FELT SEEN.

AND I JUST FELT SEEN.

I FELT ALIVE.

I FELT ALIVE.

AND IN THAT MOMENT I FELT AS IF AND IN THAT MOMENT I FELT AS IF MY WORDS MATTERED.

MY WORDS MATTERED.

>> YOU HAVE GONE ALL OVER THE >> YOU HAVE GONE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AS A KEYNOTE SPEAKER.

COUNTRY AS A KEYNOTE SPEAKER.

YOU HAVE BEEN AN JASHORY.

YOU HAVE BEEN AN JASHORY.

HOW DID -- EDUCATOR.

HOW DID -- EDUCATOR.

HOW DID THAT TRANSPORTATION HOW DID THAT TRANSPORTATION HAPPEN THAT IT WAS THIS MOMENT HAPPEN THAT IT WAS THIS MOMENT THAT YOU FOUND YOUR VOICE TO NOW THAT YOU FOUND YOUR VOICE TO NOW THIS IS WHO YOU ARE IN YOUR THIS IS WHO YOU ARE IN YOUR CAREER?

CAREER?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT PEOPLE >> WELL, I THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE SHOULD NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE INFLUENCE THAT THEY HAVE ON INFLUENCE THAT THEY HAVE ON CHILDREN, WHETHER IT IS FOR A CHILDREN, WHETHER IT IS FOR A MOMENT OR A LIFETIME OR FOR MOMENT OR A LIFETIME OR FOR YEARS.

YEARS.

A FEW THINGS HAPPENED ALONG THE A FEW THINGS HAPPENED ALONG THE WAY.

WAY.

MY THIRD GRADE TEACHER CAST ME MY THIRD GRADE TEACHER CAST ME AS WALT DISNEY IN THE SCHOOL AS WALT DISNEY IN THE SCHOOL PLAY.

PLAY.

AND I LOVED GENDER BENDING, EVEN AND I LOVED GENDER BENDING, EVEN AT THAT AGE, BECAUSE I ALWAYS AT THAT AGE, BECAUSE I ALWAYS FELT THAT I WAS MORE THAN MALE FELT THAT I WAS MORE THAN MALE OR FEMALE AND THAT EVERYONE WAS OR FEMALE AND THAT EVERYONE WAS AND THAT OUR SOULS WERE SO BIG AND THAT OUR SOULS WERE SO BIG THAT WE DIDN'T FIT INTO ANY THAT WE DIDN'T FIT INTO ANY IDENTITY.

IDENTITY.

SO I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE SO I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE PLAYING WALT DIZ ME!

PLAYING WALT DIZ ME!

-- WALT DISNEY IN MY LITTLE -- WALT DISNEY IN MY LITTLE SUIT AND TIE AND I HAD A FIFTH SUIT AND TIE AND I HAD A FIFTH GRADE TEACHER WHO SAID TO ME, MY GRADE TEACHER WHO SAID TO ME, MY DEAR, YOU WERE BORN FOR THE DEAR, YOU WERE BORN FOR THE THEATER.

THEATER.

AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER PROFESSOR AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER PROFESSOR IN COLLEGE, AND HE SAID TO ME, IN COLLEGE, AND HE SAID TO ME, YOU WERE BORN FOR THE THEATER.

YOU WERE BORN FOR THE THEATER.

AND SO ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO JUST AND SO ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO JUST FOR A MOMENT OR JUST FOR A SHORT FOR A MOMENT OR JUST FOR A SHORT TIME GAVE ME WORDS OF TIME GAVE ME WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT MADE ALL THE ENCOURAGEMENT MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

>> BEING A POET LAUREATE IS A >> BEING A POET LAUREATE IS A RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITY.

RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITY.

CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING POET RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING POET LAUREATE.

LAUREATE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

SO I STARTED A PODCAST CALLED SO I STARTED A PODCAST CALLED "JAZZ ROOM."

"JAZZ ROOM."

BASS YOU HAVE TO BE JAZZ READY BASS YOU HAVE TO BE JAZZ READY IN LIFE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IN LIFE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S COMING.

WHAT'S COMING.

IN -- THAT POD KES I DID IT FOR IN -- THAT POD KES I DID IT FOR THE SPRING OF SPRINGFIELD AND WE THE SPRING OF SPRINGFIELD AND WE NOW HAVE A GLOBAL AUDIENCE.

NOW HAVE A GLOBAL AUDIENCE.

AND IT FEATURES POETRY AND IT AND IT FEATURES POETRY AND IT STARTED TO GROW THE POETRY OF STARTED TO GROW THE POETRY OF MUSIC, THE POETRY OF THEATER, MUSIC, THE POETRY OF THEATER, THE POETRY OF PUBLIC SPEAKING.

THE POETRY OF PUBLIC SPEAKING.

>> IN AN INTERVIEW, YOU STATED >> IN AN INTERVIEW, YOU STATED THAT YOU DO NOT SEPARATE ART THAT YOU DO NOT SEPARATE ART FROM ACTIVISTICH OR ART ACTIVISM FROM ACTIVISTICH OR ART ACTIVISM OR ART FROM THE HUMAN OR ART FROM THE HUMAN CONNECTION.

CONNECTION.

WHY HAS ACTIVISM BEEN SO WHY HAS ACTIVISM BEEN SO IMPORTANT FOR YOU AND WHY DO YOU IMPORTANT FOR YOU AND WHY DO YOU FEEL THEY SHOULD NOT BE FEEL THEY SHOULD NOT BE SEPARATED?

SEPARATED?

>> I WAS BORN INTO IT.

>> I WAS BORN INTO IT.

BOTH OF MY PARENTS CAME FROM BOTH OF MY PARENTS CAME FROM POVERTY AND OPPRESSION.

POVERTY AND OPPRESSION.

MY FATHER WAS CHICANO.

MY FATHER WAS CHICANO.

AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE AMONG UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE AMONG THE MOST OPPRESSED AND THE MOST OPPRESSED AND MARGINALIZED PEOPLE GLOBALLY, MARGINALIZED PEOPLE GLOBALLY, NOT JUST THE SPANISH, BUT NOT JUST THE SPANISH, BUT CHICANOS FROM ALL OVER THE CHICANOS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

WORLD.

AND MY MOTHER GREW UP, YOU KNOW, AND MY MOTHER GREW UP, YOU KNOW, AS A VICTIM OF THE THRASHING OF AS A VICTIM OF THE THRASHING OF PUERTO RICO BY COLONIALISM AND PUERTO RICO BY COLONIALISM AND SHE GREW UP IN POVERTY.

SHE GREW UP IN POVERTY.

AND I GREW UP WITH TWO AND I GREW UP WITH TWO STORYTELLER PARENTS WHO SHARED STORYTELLER PARENTS WHO SHARED STORIES FROM THEIR LIVES.

STORIES FROM THEIR LIVES.

AND I HEARD ABOUT THIS AND I HEARD ABOUT THIS OPPRESSION AND FROM THE TIME I OPPRESSION AND FROM THE TIME I WAS A LITTLE GIRL, THERE WERE WAS A LITTLE GIRL, THERE WERE THINGS THAT MATTERED TO ME, THINGS THAT MATTERED TO ME, WHICH WAS GIVING OPPORTUNITY FOR WHICH WAS GIVING OPPORTUNITY FOR VOICE TO OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN VOICE TO OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN SILENCED, LIKE MY PARENTS, LIKE SILENCED, LIKE MY PARENTS, LIKE MYSELF.

MYSELF.

MY TWO PARENTS WERE BOTH MY TWO PARENTS WERE BOTH EXTREMELY ARTISTIC WITHOUT THE EXTREMELY ARTISTIC WITHOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THAT.

OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THAT.

AND MY MOTHER COULD NOT READ OR AND MY MOTHER COULD NOT READ OR WRITE UNTIL SHE WAS 60 YEARS WRITE UNTIL SHE WAS 60 YEARS OLD.

OLD.

SO I DEDICATED MY LIFE TO SO I DEDICATED MY LIFE TO INTERRUPTING THOSE PATTERNS IN INTERRUPTING THOSE PATTERNS IN THE LIVES OF OTHERS.

THE LIVES OF OTHERS.

FOR ME IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OTHER FOR ME IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OTHER PEOPLE FIND THEIR VOICE, THEIR PEOPLE FIND THEIR VOICE, THEIR POWER, THEIR CREATIVE SPIRIT.

POWER, THEIR CREATIVE SPIRIT.

AND THAT'S WHY I CAN'T SEPARATE AND THAT'S WHY I CAN'T SEPARATE IT FROM ACTIVISM BECAUSE TO ME IT FROM ACTIVISM BECAUSE TO ME THE SOUL OF ACTIVISM IS THE SOUL OF ACTIVISM IS PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS TO BE THEIR BEST SELVES.

OTHERS TO BE THEIR BEST SELVES.

SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE OUR SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE OUR SOCIETY BETTER.

SOCIETY BETTER.

>> YOU MAKE IT A POINT TO STATE >> YOU MAKE IT A POINT TO STATE THAT YOU DO NOT EMPOWER ANYONE.

THAT YOU DO NOT EMPOWER ANYONE.

IT'S NOT A WORD THAT YOU ARE A IT'S NOT A WORD THAT YOU ARE A FAN OF.

FAN OF.

WHY IS THAT THE CASE AND WHAT DO WHY IS THAT THE CASE AND WHAT DO YOU HOPE PEOPLE TAKE AWAY FROM YOU HOPE PEOPLE TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR WORK AND CAREER AS A POET, YOUR WORK AND CAREER AS A POET, PLAYWRIGHT, AND AUTHOR?

PLAYWRIGHT, AND AUTHOR?

>> THE REASON I DON'T LIKE THE >> THE REASON I DON'T LIKE THE WORD "EMPOWER" BECAUSE WORD "EMPOWER" BECAUSE THERE'S -- I THINK AN THERE'S -- I THINK AN IMPLICATION THERE THAT SOMEHOW IMPLICATION THERE THAT SOMEHOW WE ARE GIVING POWER TO OTHERS.

WE ARE GIVING POWER TO OTHERS.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MY ROLE AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MY ROLE AS AN ARTIST OR A HUMAN BEING IS AS AN ARTIST OR A HUMAN BEING IS TO THINK THAT I CAN BE THE VOICE TO THINK THAT I CAN BE THE VOICE FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

MY JOB IS TO PROVIDE VENUE FOR MY JOB IS TO PROVIDE VENUE FOR THEM, WHICH IS WHY I STARTED THEM, WHICH IS WHY I STARTED JAZZ -- WHY I THOUGHTED IGNITE JAZZ -- WHY I THOUGHTED IGNITE THE MIC AND ALL OF THOSE VENUES THE MIC AND ALL OF THOSE VENUES HERE IN SPRINGFIELD, BECAUSE I HERE IN SPRINGFIELD, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT'S MY JOB AS AN BELIEVE THAT IT'S MY JOB AS AN ARTIST NOT ONLY TO AMPLIFY ARTIST NOT ONLY TO AMPLIFY MYSELF BUT TO CREATE THE TOOLS MYSELF BUT TO CREATE THE TOOLS FOR OTHERS TO AMPLIFY FOR OTHERS TO AMPLIFY THEMSELVES.

THEMSELVES.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> FROM GEORGE MILLER WAS >>> FROM GEORGE MILLER WAS CONTRAD TO BUILD A GUTTER -- CONTRAD TO BUILD A GUTTER -- CONTRACTED TO BUILD A BUTTERFLY CONTRACTED TO BUILD A BUTTERFLY CONSORRY TOIV IN SOUTH DEERFIELD CONSORRY TOIV IN SOUTH DEERFIELD IN 1998, HE HAD NO IDEA HE WAS IN 1998, HE HAD NO IDEA HE WAS CONSTRUCTING IT FOR HIMSELF.

CONSTRUCTING IT FOR HIMSELF.

SOON AFTER ITS OPENING, MILLER SOON AFTER ITS OPENING, MILLER TOOK SOLE YEARSHIP OF THE TOOK SOLE YEARSHIP OF THE FACILITY AND CREATE -- OWNERSHIP FACILITY AND CREATE -- OWNERSHIP OF THE FACILITY AND CREATED ONE OF THE FACILITY AND CREATED ONE OF THE MOST UNIQUE DES -- OF THE MOST UNIQUE DES -- DESTINATIONS IN WESTERN MASSES.

DESTINATIONS IN WESTERN MASSES.

HIS CHILDREN TOOK OVER THE HIS CHILDREN TOOK OVER THE OPERATION AFTER HAS PASSING AND OPERATION AFTER HAS PASSING AND HAVE SUCCESSFULLY CONTINUED HITS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY CONTINUED HITS LEGACY.

LEGACY.

"CONNECTING POINT'S" BRIAN "CONNECTING POINT'S" BRIAN SULLIVAN TRAVELED TO FRANKLIN SULLIVAN TRAVELED TO FRANKLIN COUNTY AND BRINGS US THIS STORY.

COUNTY AND BRINGS US THIS STORY.

>> THERE'S A LITTLE STRETCH OF >> THERE'S A LITTLE STRETCH OF ROAD WHERE WHATEVER SEASON IT ROAD WHERE WHATEVER SEASON IT MAY BE, IT'S EARMARK -- ON FULL MAY BE, IT'S EARMARK -- ON FULL DISPLAY FOR ALL THOSE PASSING DISPLAY FOR ALL THOSE PASSING THROUGH.

THROUGH.

THIS ROADSIDE FARM STAND WAS THIS ROADSIDE FARM STAND WAS SHUTTERED ALMOST AS QUICKLY AS SHUTTERED ALMOST AS QUICKLY AS THE FIRST FROST'S ARRIVAL.

THE FIRST FROST'S ARRIVAL.

A TRACTOR RESTS IN SEEMING A TRACTOR RESTS IN SEEMING SUSPENDED ANIMATION WITH NOTHING SUSPENDED ANIMATION WITH NOTHING LEFT TO HARVEST.

LEFT TO HARVEST.

BY ALL INDICATIONS, IT'S LATE BY ALL INDICATIONS, IT'S LATE FALL IN SOUTH DEERFIELD WITH FALL IN SOUTH DEERFIELD WITH WINTER FAST APPROACHING.

WINTER FAST APPROACHING.

UNLESS OF COURSE, WE'RE INSIDE UNLESS OF COURSE, WE'RE INSIDE THIS BUILDING ONLY A FEW HUNDRED THIS BUILDING ONLY A FEW HUNDRED YARDS AWAY.

YARDS AWAY.

IN HERE IT'S ONE TEMPERATURE IN HERE IT'S ONE TEMPERATURE YEAR-ROUND.

YEAR-ROUND.

AND THE COUNTLESS BUTTERFLIES AS AND THE COUNTLESS BUTTERFLIES AS US REGULAR FOLKS KNOW THEM ARE US REGULAR FOLKS KNOW THEM ARE LIVING AND THRIVING IN IT.

LIVING AND THRIVING IN IT.

SEEM TOO MAGICAL TO BE TRUE?

SEEM TOO MAGICAL TO BE TRUE?

IT'S IN THE NAME FOR A REASON.

IT'S IN THE NAME FOR A REASON.

>> IT'S ALWAYS SUMMER HERE.

>> IT'S ALWAYS SUMMER HERE.

SO WE STAY INSTEAD OF GOING SO WE STAY INSTEAD OF GOING SOUTH, GO TO SOUTH DEERFIELD.

SOUTH, GO TO SOUTH DEERFIELD.

WE HAVE BUTTERFLIES RAIN OR WE HAVE BUTTERFLIES RAIN OR SHINE.

SHINE.

WE HAVE TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED, WE HAVE TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED, SO IT'S ALWAYS BUTTERFLIES SO IT'S ALWAYS BUTTERFLIES TBLYING ALL DAY LONG NO MATTER TBLYING ALL DAY LONG NO MATTER THE TEMPERATURE.

THE TEMPERATURE.

WE PRETTY MUCH MIMIC THE WE PRETTY MUCH MIMIC THE TEMPERATURES IN THE TROPICAL TEMPERATURES IN THE TROPICAL RAIN FOREST.

RAIN FOREST.

SO SOMEWHERE IN THE MID 60S TO SO SOMEWHERE IN THE MID 60S TO YOUR HONOR 60S DEPENDING ON THE YOUR HONOR 60S DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR AT NIGHT.

TIME OF YEAR AT NIGHT.

IN DAYTIME MID TO UPPER 70S.

IN DAYTIME MID TO UPPER 70S.

BUT IF THE SUN COMES OUT IT'S BUT IF THE SUN COMES OUT IT'S GOING TO BE WARMER.

GOING TO BE WARMER.

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT FIVE TO 10 IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT FIVE TO 10 DEGREES COOLER IN THE SUMMERTIME DEGREES COOLER IN THE SUMMERTIME BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHADE CLOTH TO BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHADE CLOTH TO REDUCE THE TEMPERATURE A LITTLE REDUCE THE TEMPERATURE A LITTLE BIT.

BIT.

SO IT'S NOT UNCOMFORTABLE.

SO IT'S NOT UNCOMFORTABLE.

BUT IN WINT TIME WE TRY TO BUT IN WINT TIME WE TRY TO MAINTAIN AROUND 75 TO 78 MAINTAIN AROUND 75 TO 78 DEGREES.

DEGREES.

>> THE BUDDER -- BUTE FLIES FEES >> THE BUDDER -- BUTE FLIES FEES IT ON THE FEEDERS AND THAT'S IT ON THE FEEDERS AND THAT'S BECAUSE MOST OF THE PLANTS IN BECAUSE MOST OF THE PLANTS IN HERE ARE NOT HOST PLANTS.

HERE ARE NOT HOST PLANTS.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY'RE THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE THE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE THE BUTTERFLIES BREEDING OUT HERE BUTTERFLIES BREEDING OUT HERE AND THAT'S A GOOD THING, SINCE AND THAT'S A GOOD THING, SINCE CATERPILLARS WOULD DESTROY THE CATERPILLARS WOULD DESTROY THE PLANT LIFE.

PLANT LIFE.

THERE ARE ALREADY ENOUGH IN THIS THERE ARE ALREADY ENOUGH IN THIS ROOM.

ROOM.

HOW MANY?

HOW MANY?

THE ANSWER IS A BIT COMPLEX.

THE ANSWER IS A BIT COMPLEX.

>> WE RAISE A LOT OF BUTTERFLIES >> WE RAISE A LOT OF BUTTERFLIES IN-HOUSE.

IN-HOUSE.

SO WE RAISE ABOUT 70% OF THE SO WE RAISE ABOUT 70% OF THE POPULATIONS, BUT WE IMPORT ABOUT POPULATIONS, BUT WE IMPORT ABOUT 70% OF THE DIVERSITY, MEANING 70% OF THE DIVERSITY, MEANING THAT SOME OF THE BUTTERFLIES WE THAT SOME OF THE BUTTERFLIES WE DON'T HAVE THE HOST PLANTR FOR DON'T HAVE THE HOST PLANTR FOR AND WE CAN'T BREED, SO WE GET A AND WE CAN'T BREED, SO WE GET A SHIPMENT AND WE HELP SORT SHIPMENT AND WE HELP SORT FARMERS AND FARMS IN OTHER FARMERS AND FARMS IN OTHER COUNTRIES TO SUPPORT THEM.

COUNTRIES TO SUPPORT THEM.

WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 50 TO 60 WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 50 TO 60 DIFFERENT SPECIES AT ANY GIVEN DIFFERENT SPECIES AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

TIME.

AND PROBABLY ABOUT THREE TO AND PROBABLY ABOUT THREE TO 4,000 BUTTERFLIES FLYING.

4,000 BUTTERFLIES FLYING.

>> THE BUTTERFLIES MAY RECEIVE >> THE BUTTERFLIES MAY RECEIVE THE LION'S SHARE OF THE THE LION'S SHARE OF THE ATTENTION, BUT VISITORS ARE ALSO ATTENTION, BUT VISITORS ARE ALSO WELCOME TO TAKE A LOOK AT NEAT WELCOME TO TAKE A LOOK AT NEAT REPTILES AND CREEPY CALL ITS.

REPTILES AND CREEPY CALL ITS.

FOR SOME, THESE ARE THE MOST FOR SOME, THESE ARE THE MOST INTERESTING ON EARTH, WHILE INTERESTING ON EARTH, WHILE OTHERS MAY FIND THE QUICKEST OTHERS MAY FIND THE QUICKEST EXIT.

EXIT.

LUCKILY THIS ONE LEADS DIRECTLY LUCKILY THIS ONE LEADS DIRECTLY TO THE CONSERVATORY AND FOR TO THE CONSERVATORY AND FOR ANYONE PASSING THROUGH FOR THE ANYONE PASSING THROUGH FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE EXPERIENCE IS A FIRST TIME, THE EXPERIENCE IS A BIT SURREAL.

BIT SURREAL.

WELL, I CAN ADD THIS TO THE LIST WELL, I CAN ADD THIS TO THE LIST OF THINGS I'VE NEVER SEEN OF THINGS I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

BEFORE.

NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IN MY ENTIRE NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IN MY ENTIRE LIFE, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER LIFE, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HAD A BUTTERFLY ACTUALLY LAND ON HAD A BUTTERFLY ACTUALLY LAND ON ME.

ME.

AND JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, I AND JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, I THINK I HAD ABOUT 10 ALL OVER THINK I HAD ABOUT 10 ALL OVER ME.

ME.

IT WAS PRETTY FASCINATING!

IT WAS PRETTY FASCINATING!

THIS 8,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING THIS 8,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING WASN'T ALWAYS THIS BIG.

WASN'T ALWAYS THIS BIG.

WHEN IT FIRST OPENED, IT WAS WHEN IT FIRST OPENED, IT WAS HALF THIS SIZE.

HALF THIS SIZE.

IT'S ALSO ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT IT'S ALSO ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HERE AT NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HERE AT ALL HAD GEORGE MILLER NOT TAKEN ALL HAD GEORGE MILLER NOT TAKEN THIS ON AS A CONSTRUCTION THIS ON AS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN 1998, BEFORE PROJECT IN 1998, BEFORE EVENTUALLY BEING TALKED INTO EVENTUALLY BEING TALKED INTO PARTNERING IN THIS BUSINESS.

PARTNERING IN THIS BUSINESS.

>> IT STARTED OUT WITH TWO >> IT STARTED OUT WITH TWO PEOPLE AND SOME THINGS WENT AWRY PEOPLE AND SOME THINGS WENT AWRY A LITTLE BIT IN THE BEGINNING.

A LITTLE BIT IN THE BEGINNING.

AND HE KIND OF STEPPED IN AND HE AND HE KIND OF STEPPED IN AND HE PRETTY MUCH THREW A LOT OF HIS PRETTY MUCH THREW A LOT OF HIS SAVINGS AND EVERYTHING INTO IT SAVINGS AND EVERYTHING INTO IT AND HE BELIEVED IT WAS GONNA AND HE BELIEVED IT WAS GONNA BECOME SOMETHING.

BECOME SOMETHING.

AND I BET THE FAMILY PROBABLY AND I BET THE FAMILY PROBABLY THOUGHT HE WAS PRETTY SILLY THOUGHT HE WAS PRETTY SILLY FOR -- FOR WANTING TO GO INTO A FOR -- FOR WANTING TO GO INTO A BUTTERFLY BUSINESS, BUT IT TOOK BUTTERFLY BUSINESS, BUT IT TOOK OFF LIKE A ROCKET.

OFF LIKE A ROCKET.

IT DID REALLY WELL AND THANKS TO IT DID REALLY WELL AND THANKS TO THE FAMILY, THEY GOT IT MOVING.

THE FAMILY, THEY GOT IT MOVING.

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BUT IT DOESN'T STOP THERE.

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>>> MAGIC WINGSES IS BEST KNOWN >>> MAGIC WINGSES IS BEST KNOWN AS A BUTTERFLY SANCTUARY, BUT AS A BUTTERFLY SANCTUARY, BUT CURATOR FRED GAGNON SHOWS BRIAN CURATOR FRED GAGNON SHOWS BRIAN SULLIVAN SOME OF THE OTHER SULLIVAN SOME OF THE OTHER INTERESTING CREATURES AT THE INTERESTING CREATURES AT THE FACILITY THAT DON'T RECEIVE THE FACILITY THAT DON'T RECEIVE THE SAME FANFARE AS THE SAME FANFARE AS THE BUTTERFLIES -- BUTTERFLIES -- >> WE TRY TO GET CREATURES OF >> WE TRY TO GET CREATURES OF BROUGHT COLORS AND THINGS THAT BROUGHT COLORS AND THINGS THAT ARE ASTONISHING, CAMOUFLAGED ARE ASTONISHING, CAMOUFLAGED THAT YOU WOULD NEVER SEE OR THAT YOU WOULD NEVER SEE OR BRIGHT COLORS YOU WOULDN'T BRIGHT COLORS YOU WOULDN'T NORMALLY SEE IN NATURE.

NORMALLY SEE IN NATURE.

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>>> WITH 16 GROUPS THROUGHOUT >>> WITH 16 GROUPS THROUGHOUT NEW ENGLAND, AND EVEN ONE IN NEW ENGLAND, AND EVEN ONE IN PORTLAND, OREGON, THE MISSION OF PORTLAND, OREGON, THE MISSION OF ROCK VOICES IS TO HEAL ITS ROCK VOICES IS TO HEAL ITS MEMBERS AND OTHERS THROUGH SONG.

MEMBERS AND OTHERS THROUGH SONG.

THE ADULT, NO-AUDITION COMMUNITY THE ADULT, NO-AUDITION COMMUNITY CHOIR WAS FOUNDED IN 2012 BY CHOIR WAS FOUNDED IN 2012 BY DIRECTOR TONY LECHNER, AND HAS DIRECTOR TONY LECHNER, AND HAS HELPED MEMBERS DISCOVER THE JOY HELPED MEMBERS DISCOVER THE JOY OF SINGING THEIR FAVORITE ROCK OF SINGING THEIR FAVORITE ROCK MUSIC AS A COLLECTIVE.

MUSIC AS A COLLECTIVE.

LECHNER AND MEMBERS JULIE SMITH LECHNER AND MEMBERS JULIE SMITH AND KATE PAWUL JOINS ZYDALIS AND KATE PAWUL JOINS ZYDALIS BAUER TO SHOW HOW THIS GROUP HAS BAUER TO SHOW HOW THIS GROUP HAS IMPACTED THEIR LIVES.

IMPACTED THEIR LIVES.

>> WE TOOK OUT AN AD IN THE >> WE TOOK OUT AN AD IN THE PAPER, SAYING WHO WANTS TO SING PAPER, SAYING WHO WANTS TO SING ROCK AND ROLL, AND ABOUT 50 ROCK AND ROLL, AND ABOUT 50 PEOPLE SHOWED UP.

PEOPLE SHOWED UP.

ONE OF THEM I KNEW.

ONE OF THEM I KNEW.

WHY IS BECAUSE I HAD SPENT MY WHY IS BECAUSE I HAD SPENT MY LIFE IN MUSIC STUDYING IT AND LIFE IN MUSIC STUDYING IT AND TEACHING IT.

TEACHING IT.

AND HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT AND HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A -- SOMETHING ABOUT THERE WAS A -- SOMETHING ABOUT CHORAL MUSIC THAT KEPT EVERYBODY CHORAL MUSIC THAT KEPT EVERYBODY FROM BEING ABLE TO DO IT.

FROM BEING ABLE TO DO IT.

IT'S -- IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT IT'S -- IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF REACH TO PEOPLE BECAUSE OUT OF REACH TO PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S OFTEN IN OTHER LANGUAGES, IT'S OFTEN IN OTHER LANGUAGES, YOU OFTEN NEED TO READ MUSIC TO YOU OFTEN NEED TO READ MUSIC TO PARTICIPATE.

PARTICIPATE.

IT'S A VARRIER FOR -- BARRIER IT'S A VARRIER FOR -- BARRIER FOR PEOPLE, WHICH IS IRONIC FOR PEOPLE, WHICH IS IRONIC BECAUSE SINGING -- IT'S THE BECAUSE SINGING -- IT'S THE OLDEST INSTRUMENT IN EXISTENCE.

OLDEST INSTRUMENT IN EXISTENCE.

ALL HUMANS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ALL HUMANS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF SING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME.

TIME.

WE'VE REVOLVED TO THIS -- WE'VE REVOLVED TO THIS -- EVOLVED TO THIS CAREFUL SETTING EVOLVED TO THIS CAREFUL SETTING ASIDE OF SINGING FOR ONLY ASIDE OF SINGING FOR ONLY CERTAIN KINDS OF PEOPLE.

CERTAIN KINDS OF PEOPLE.

WE WERE THINKING WHAT IF THERE WE WERE THINKING WHAT IF THERE WAS A CHOIR FOR SINGING WHATEVER WAS A CHOIR FOR SINGING WHATEVER PEOPLE WANT TO SING NOWADAYS, PEOPLE WANT TO SING NOWADAYS, POPULAR MUSIC.

POPULAR MUSIC.

AND WE JUST DID IT ON A WHIM.

AND WE JUST DID IT ON A WHIM.

>> YOU MENTIONED THAT 50 PEOPLE >> YOU MENTIONED THAT 50 PEOPLE SHOWED UP AFTER THAT FIRST AD SHOWED UP AFTER THAT FIRST AD WAS PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER.

WAS PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER.

DID THAT RESPONSE SURPRISE YOU DID THAT RESPONSE SURPRISE YOU AND HOW HAS THE COMMUNITY AND HOW HAS THE COMMUNITY RESPONDED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS?

RESPONDED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS?

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

IT SURPRISED ME!

IT SURPRISED ME!

I THINK IT SURPRISED THEM, TOO.

I THINK IT SURPRISED THEM, TOO.

BECAUSE I GOT THERE LATE.

BECAUSE I GOT THERE LATE.

THERE WAS A LINE OUT THE DOOR, THERE WAS A LINE OUT THE DOOR, 50 PEOPLE WAITING TO GET IN FOR 50 PEOPLE WAITING TO GET IN FOR ME TO UNLOCK THE DOOR OF THE ME TO UNLOCK THE DOOR OF THE BUILDING WE WERE RENTING.

BUILDING WE WERE RENTING.

I THINK WE WERE ALL SURPRISED, I THINK WE WERE ALL SURPRISED, BECAUSE NONE OF US KNEW.

BECAUSE NONE OF US KNEW.

ME INCLUDED, WHAT WAS GOING TO ME INCLUDED, WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

HAPPEN.

I THOUGHT MAYBE FIVE PEOPLE I THOUGHT MAYBE FIVE PEOPLE WOULD SHOW UP, MAYBE A HUNDRED.

WOULD SHOW UP, MAYBE A HUNDRED.

I HAD NO IDEA.

I HAD NO IDEA.

>> SO KATE AND JULIE, AS ONE OF >> SO KATE AND JULIE, AS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE THAT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED TO THE AD, WHAT MADE RESPONDED TO THE AD, WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO GO CHECK OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO GO CHECK OUT WHAT ROCK VOICES WAS AND WERE YOU ROCK VOICES WAS AND WERE YOU ALSO SURPRISED TO SEE HOW MANY ALSO SURPRISED TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP AS WELL?

PEOPLE SHOWED UP AS WELL?

>> IT WAS A REALLY SMALL AD AND >> IT WAS A REALLY SMALL AD AND IT IS JUST SAID, DO YOU LIKE TO IT IS JUST SAID, DO YOU LIKE TO SING.

SING.

I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE SAID, DO I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE SAID, DO YOU LIKE TO SING IN THE SHOWER.

YOU LIKE TO SING IN THE SHOWER.

AND I THOUGHT, WELL, YEAH, I AND I THOUGHT, WELL, YEAH, I LOVE TO SING.

LOVE TO SING.

AND I HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR A AND I HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR A CHOIR I COULD JOIN THAT CHOIR I COULD JOIN THAT WASN'T -- I DIDN'T WANT TO DO WASN'T -- I DIDN'T WANT TO DO WOMEN'S MUSIC OR INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S MUSIC OR INTERNATIONAL MUSIC.

MUSIC.

I WANTED TO SING EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SING EXACTLY WHAT TONY SAID.

TONY SAID.

THE SONGS I GREW UP SINGING, THE THE SONGS I GREW UP SINGING, THE SONGS I SANG IN MY CAR ALL THE SONGS I SANG IN MY CAR ALL THE TIME.

TIME.

YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO SING ROCK YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO SING ROCK AND ROLL.

AND ROLL.

AND THERE -- THERE JUST WASN'T A AND THERE -- THERE JUST WASN'T A CHOIR DOING THAT.

CHOIR DOING THAT.

>> I UNLIKE JULIE DIDN'T KNOW I >> I UNLIKE JULIE DIDN'T KNOW I WAS LOOKING.

WAS LOOKING.

IT JUST -- IT JUST FOUND ME.

IT JUST -- IT JUST FOUND ME.

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> I YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN GOING >> I YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN GOING TO CONCERT ALL MY LIFE.

TO CONCERT ALL MY LIFE.

THAT'S ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE THAT'S ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE THINGS TO DO.

FAVORITE THINGS TO DO.

AND I'VE ALWAYS SUNG TO MYSELF.

AND I'VE ALWAYS SUNG TO MYSELF.

[LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] OR TO ANYBODY WHO'S IN THE CAR OR TO ANYBODY WHO'S IN THE CAR WITH ME.

WITH ME.

I DON'T READ MUSIC.

I DON'T READ MUSIC.

I STILL DON'T REALLY READ MUSIC.

I STILL DON'T REALLY READ MUSIC.

DON'T LISTEN.

DON'T LISTEN.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

AND I FELT LIKE JULIE DID.

AND I FELT LIKE JULIE DID.

JUST GIDDY, GIDDY WITH GLEE THAT JUST GIDDY, GIDDY WITH GLEE THAT WE GOT TO SING ALONG WITH WE GOT TO SING ALONG WITH PEOPLE, WITH SONGS THAT WE KNEW, PEOPLE, WITH SONGS THAT WE KNEW, SONGS THAT WE'VE GROWN UP, SONGS SONGS THAT WE'VE GROWN UP, SONGS THAT WE'VE LOVED, IN A WAY THAT THAT WE'VE LOVED, IN A WAY THAT NOBODY WAS GONNA MAKE FUN OF US NOBODY WAS GONNA MAKE FUN OF US OR -- OR SAY YOU'RE SINGING THE OR -- OR SAY YOU'RE SINGING THE WRONG PART OR ANYTHING.

WRONG PART OR ANYTHING.

♪ [SINGING] ♪ ♪ [SINGING] ♪ ♪ I WISH NOTHING BUT THE BEST ♪ I WISH NOTHING BUT THE BEST FOR YOU ♪ FOR YOU ♪ >> MAY WHO HELPED PICK UP THE >> MAY WHO HELPED PICK UP THE CHARGE TO EXPAND ROCK VOICES CHARGE TO EXPAND ROCK VOICES THROUGHOUT NEW ENGLAND, IN AN THROUGHOUT NEW ENGLAND, IN AN ARTICLE HE SAID THAT THE ARTICLE HE SAID THAT THE COMMUNITY RIVALS THE MUSICALITY COMMUNITY RIVALS THE MUSICALITY IN THIS GROUP.

IN THIS GROUP.

IN THE TIME WE ARE IN RIGHT -- IN THE TIME WE ARE IN RIGHT -- RIGHT NOW WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE TOGETHER AS WE ONCE WERE, TO BE TOGETHER AS WE ONCE WERE, HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THE HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE GROUP?

COMMUNITY WITHIN THE GROUP?

>> IT'S HARD BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T >> IT'S HARD BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN MEETING IN PERSON FOR TWO BEEN MEETING IN PERSON FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

YEARS NOW.

AND WE'VE CONTINUED ON ZOOM, AND WE'VE CONTINUED ON ZOOM, WHICH IS -- HAS ITS LIMITATIONS.

WHICH IS -- HAS ITS LIMITATIONS.

YOU CAN'T SING IN REALLESS TIME YOU CAN'T SING IN REALLESS TIME TOGETHER AND HEAR EACH OTHER.

TOGETHER AND HEAR EACH OTHER.

WE'VE KEPT REHEARSALS GOING AS WE'VE KEPT REHEARSALS GOING AS BEST WE COULD.

BEST WE COULD.

>> YOU STILL ARE MAKING MUSIC >> YOU STILL ARE MAKING MUSIC TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU'LL BE TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU'LL BE MAKING A CD, IF I'M CORRECT.

MAKING A CD, IF I'M CORRECT.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

>> SO TELL ME -- >> SO TELL ME -- >> TWO CDs.

>> TWO CDs.

WE HAVE TOO MANY SONGS FOR ONE WE HAVE TOO MANY SONGS FOR ONE CD, SO NOW IT'S TWO.

CD, SO NOW IT'S TWO.

AND WE'VE BEEN PUTTING OUT VOWRL AND WE'VE BEEN PUTTING OUT VOWRL FIRE VIDEOS WHICH IS -- VIRTUAL FIRE VIDEOS WHICH IS -- VIRTUAL FIRE VIDEOS WHICH IS ALL THE FIRE VIDEOS WHICH IS ALL THE RAGE SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

RAGE SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

♪ [SINGING] ♪ ♪ [SINGING] ♪ >> WE'VE GOT FOUR OR FIVE OF >> WE'VE GOT FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM OUT ALREADY AND A BUNCH THEM OUT ALREADY AND A BUNCH MORE IN THE WORKS.

MORE IN THE WORKS.

WE FOUND WAYS TO MAKE IT WE FOUND WAYS TO MAKE IT INTERESTING AND FUN FOR PEOPLE.

INTERESTING AND FUN FOR PEOPLE.

>> I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF >> I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY WITHIN THE GROUP, COMMUNITY WITHIN THE GROUP, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BACK IN 2013 ROCK VOICES WAS BACK IN 2013 ROCK VOICES WAS FEATURED ON OUR CHORAL FEATURED ON OUR CHORAL COMPETITION SERIES, TOGETHER IN COMPETITION SERIES, TOGETHER IN SONG.

SONG.

I WORKED ON THAT SHOW AND I I WORKED ON THAT SHOW AND I WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE CAM WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE CAM RESIDENT -- COMRADEI THAT RESIDENT -- COMRADEI THAT EXISTED IN THE GROUP.

EXISTED IN THE GROUP.

TELL ME ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT TELL ME ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU HAVE BUILT AND HOW IT'S YOU HAVE BUILT AND HOW IT'S HELPED HEAL YOURSELVES AND HELPED HEAL YOURSELVES AND OTHERS DURING DIFFICULT TIMES IN OTHERS DURING DIFFICULT TIMES IN YOUR LIVES OR EVEN DURING THE YOUR LIVES OR EVEN DURING THE GOOD TIMES.

GOOD TIMES.

>> I THINK IT -- WHEN IT BEGAN >> I THINK IT -- WHEN IT BEGAN IT WAS REALLY UNDERSTANDING FOR IT WAS REALLY UNDERSTANDING FOR ME THAT I HAD MET MY PEOPLE.

ME THAT I HAD MET MY PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE YOU KNOW, IT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE OF SOMEBODY WOULD MAKE A SILLY OF SOMEBODY WOULD MAKE A SILLY JOKE AND SOMEONE ELSE WOULD FIND JOKE AND SOMEONE ELSE WOULD FIND A SONG LYRIC THAT MATCHED UP A SONG LYRIC THAT MATCHED UP WONDERFUL WITH THAT SILLY JOKE, WONDERFUL WITH THAT SILLY JOKE, THAT TYPE OF THING.

THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND TONY WAS THE MASTER OF ALL AND TONY WAS THE MASTER OF ALL THAT AND SO YOU KNOW, WE FROM IN THAT AND SO YOU KNOW, WE FROM IN THE ROOM WITH THIS -- SO WE WERE THE ROOM WITH THIS -- SO WE WERE IN THE ROOM WITH THIS GUY WHO IN THE ROOM WITH THIS GUY WHO PLAYED PIANO AND WAS SO GIFTED PLAYED PIANO AND WAS SO GIFTED AND COULD JUST -- IN THIS SORT AND COULD JUST -- IN THIS SORT OF ROBIN WILLIAMS STYLE, JUST OF ROBIN WILLIAMS STYLE, JUST RIF OFF OF ANYTHING WE THROUGH RIF OFF OF ANYTHING WE THROUGH AT HIM.

AT HIM.

SO HE WAS ENTER -- THREW AT HIM.

SO HE WAS ENTER -- THREW AT HIM.

SO HE WAS IMMENSELY SO HE WAS IMMENSELY ENTERTAINING.

ENTERTAINING.

WE WERE ENGAGED WITH ONE ANOTHER WE WERE ENGAGED WITH ONE ANOTHER IN THIS WAY.

IN THIS WAY.

>> YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE >> YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE MET YOUR BEST FRIENDS.

MET YOUR BEST FRIENDS.

YOU KNOW?

YOU KNOW?

YOU DON'T -- YOU DON'T LIKE GO YOU DON'T -- YOU DON'T LIKE GO INTO A PLACE THINKING, THIS IS INTO A PLACE THINKING, THIS IS WHERE I'M GONNA MEET, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M GONNA MEET, YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE PEOPLE.

MY FAVORITE PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE EVEN YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE EVEN SOMEWHAT -- YOU THINK YOU MIGHT SOMEWHAT -- YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE PAST THAT POINT IN YOUR LIFE.

BE PAST THAT POINT IN YOUR LIFE.

NOW THERE IS THIS WHOLE OTHER NOW THERE IS THIS WHOLE OTHER WORLD THAT OPENED UP WITH WORLD THAT OPENED UP WITH ASSOCIATIONS AND A COMMONALITY ASSOCIATIONS AND A COMMONALITY AND LOVE AND SUPPORT AND -- LIKE AND LOVE AND SUPPORT AND -- LIKE JULIE SAID, THERE'S ALL THESE JULIE SAID, THERE'S ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUR PEOPLE.

PEOPLE THAT ARE OUR PEOPLE.

>> IF SOMEBODY OUT THERE IS >> IF SOMEBODY OUT THERE IS HESITANT TO JOIN A SINGING GROUP HESITANT TO JOIN A SINGING GROUP OR THINKS MAYBE MY VOICE ISN'T OR THINKS MAYBE MY VOICE ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO JOIN, WHAT WOULD GOOD ENOUGH TO JOIN, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THEM TO HELP CHANGE YOU SAY TO THEM TO HELP CHANGE THEIR MINDS?

THEIR MINDS?

>> IF THERE'S EVEN AN INKLING >> IF THERE'S EVEN AN INKLING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE, THIS IS A THAT YOU WANT TO SEE, THIS IS A GROUP THAT WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE GROUP THAT WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE SUPPORT YOU NEED TO DO IT.

SUPPORT YOU NEED TO DO IT.

YOU CAN BLEND IN AND NOT REALLY YOU CAN BLEND IN AND NOT REALLY HEAR YOUR VOICE AMONG OTHER THE HEAR YOUR VOICE AMONG OTHER THE OTHER VOICE, JUST HEAR THE OTHER VOICE, JUST HEAR THE BLEND, OR YOU CAN DECIDED I WANT BLEND, OR YOU CAN DECIDED I WANT TO GO FOR A SOLO.

TO GO FOR A SOLO.

AND THE SOLOS ARE AND THE SOLOS ARE AUDITION-BASED.

AUDITION-BASED.

SO YOU REALLY GET TO CHOOSE HOW SO YOU REALLY GET TO CHOOSE HOW MUCH EXPOSURE YOU'RE GOING TO MUCH EXPOSURE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AND HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING HAVE AND HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH YOURSELF.

TO PUSH YOURSELF.

AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER FORMAT FOR SOMEONE WHO ISN'T FORMAT FOR SOMEONE WHO ISN'T QUITE SURE THAN A CHOIR -- THAN QUITE SURE THAN A CHOIR -- THAN ROCK VOICES.

ROCK VOICES.

I REALLY CAN'T.

I REALLY CAN'T.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> AND THAT DOES IT FOR THIS >>> AND THAT DOES IT FOR THIS EDITION OF "CONNECTING POINT."

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