
April 22nd, 2022
Season 30 Episode 15 | 28m 20sVideo has Closed Captions
Topical experts discuss the latest in Colorado's political headlines.
Topics include increased security measure for elected officials who have access to voting machines, a denied restraining order request against US Election Integrity plan, and a Colorado housing strategy update. Starring Patty Calhoun of Westword, David Kopel of Independence Institute, Denise Maes of Maes Solutions and special guest, CIO alumni Dani Newsum.
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April 22nd, 2022
Season 30 Episode 15 | 28m 20sVideo has Closed Captions
Topics include increased security measure for elected officials who have access to voting machines, a denied restraining order request against US Election Integrity plan, and a Colorado housing strategy update. Starring Patty Calhoun of Westword, David Kopel of Independence Institute, Denise Maes of Maes Solutions and special guest, CIO alumni Dani Newsum.
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"WELCOME TO APRIL 22ND, 2022," "EDITION OF ""COLORADO INSIDE" "OUT."""
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THE SUBJECT OF VARIETY OF TWEETS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY THE WEATHER SERVICE INTERRUPTING.
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CUT RIGHT IN HALF FROM THESE DIFFERENT UPDATES.
THE OTHER PERSON THAT WAS CUT OFF WAS MYSELF AT THE END OF THE SHOW I OFFER A PERSONAL UPDATE.
I WANT TO REITERATE THAT HERE SO FOLKS WHO CAUGHT A LITTLE BIT OR WONDERING WHAT WAS GOING ON CAN CATCH THE WHOLE MESSAGE PENDING THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
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AS THEY SAY ALL THINGS MUST COME TO AN END.
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ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN.
THE SHOW HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS.
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YOU WILL SEE STARTING WITH THIS SHOW SOME OF OUR FRIENDS FROM OUR PAST ON THE PROGRAM COMING BACK TO JOIN ME BEFORE I LEAVE.
YOU WILL SEE ONE OF THEM HERE IN JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
SOME GREAT SPECIAL GUESTS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
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I THINK THERE IS SOME BRIGHT THINGS AHEAD FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
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COURTESY OF INTERRUPTION FREE WEATHER SERVICE.
"THE COLORADO HOUSE STATE, CIVIC," "VETERANS, AND MILITARY AFFAIRS" COMMITTEE WAS THE FIRST STOP FOR AN ELECTIONS SECURITY AND INTEGRITY BILL THIS WEEK.
AFTER HEARING TESTIMONY FROM COLORADO SECRETARY OF STATE JENNA GRISWOLD AND MESA COUNTY "CLERK AND RECORDER TINA PETERS," THE COMMITTEE APPROVED THE BILL THAT WOULD INCREASE SECURITY MEASURES FOR ELECTED LEADERS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO VOTING MACHINES AND OTHER RELATED EQUIPMENT.
"AS ALWAYS PATTY CALHOUN, WE" START WITH YOU.
THERE MAY BE OTHER GRISWOLD/PETERS OF DEBATES IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I DIDN'T EXPECT THESE DEBATES TO START SO SOON.
JENNA GRISWOLD IS FOR THIS BILL.
TINA PETERS IS AGAINST IT.
>> SPEAKING OF CONSPIRACY THE DEBATE HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2020.
WHETHER IT WAS RIGGED AND WHETHER IT WASN'T.
WITH THAT DEBATE HAS BEEN INCREASED THREATS AGAINST PUBLIC SERVANTS.
OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
IT IS A STRANGE TIME TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT.
"IN THIS CASE, YOU WOULD THINK WE" WOULD HAVE ADEQUATE SECURITY BUILT IN TO KEEP OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SECURED.
WE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS BEING ACCUSED OF BREAKING THE LAW.
I THINK THE LEGISLATION WILL PASS THIS YEAR.
LET US HOPE PEOPLE ARE CALMER.
LET'S HOPE THEY ACCEPT THE FACT OUR ELECTION SYSTEM IN COLORADO "IS THE GOLD STANDARD, IT IS" SAFE.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE ERIK GO TO TRIAL AGAINST FOX.
THAT WILL BE INTERESTING.
>> DAVID KOPEL A KEY THING FOR ME TO NOTE THIS ELECTION AND INTEGRITY BILL IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ONES WE ARE SEEING IN REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURES IN OTHER STATE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IN THE PARTICULAR BILL?
IS IT A GOOD IDEA?
>> LET'S LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.
THE WAY OUR COUNTRY WORKS WITH OUR CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM AND IT IS U.S. AND THE SYSTEM IN COLORADO IS YOU DON'T TRUST ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE ALL THE POWER.
IF IT WAS GEORGE WASHINGTON IT WOULD BE FINE.
YOU WILL NOT ALWAYS GET GEORGE WASHINGTON.
YOU WILL GET OTHER CHARACTERS SOMETIMES.
YOU SET POWER AGAINST POWER.
"WHEN THE CENTER, THE WHITE HOUSE" IN THE FALL OF 2020 TRIED TO "STEAL AN ELECTION, IT DIDN'T" HAVE ALL THE POWER.
THERE WAS THE POWER IN THE STATES.
IN THE SECRETARY OF STATES AND THE COUNTY CLERKS AND ALL THAT.
SAME THING IN COLORADO.
JENNA GRISWOLD IS WORKING SO HARD TO USE THE PERHAPS CRIMINAL MISCONDUCT OF TINA PETERS TO HOOVER UP AS MUCH POWER AS SHE CAN INTO HERSELF PERSONALLY.
EVEN IF WE HAD A SECRETARY OF STATE LIKE THE GREAT WAYNE WILLIAMS.
IT IS A VERY BAD IDEA WE HAVE THE MOST PARTISAN SECRETARY OF STATE ANYONE WHO IS CURRENTLY ALIVE.
THE BILL IS A LOT BETTER THAN IT WAS WHEN IT STARTED OUT.
SOME OF THE WORSE THINGS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT.
IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE SECRETARY OF STATE SENSORSHIP POWER TO SAY YOU MADE THE STATEMENT ABOUT THE ELECTION AND I THINK IT IS FALSE.
YOU ARE RECKLESS IN SAYING IT.
I THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SQUASH YOU.
THAT'S OUT.
THERE IS SOME GOOD IMPROVEMENTS THERE ON THE PHYSICAL SECURITY OF VOTING MACHINES.
>> ALSO JOINING US FOUNDER OF SOLUTIONS DENISE.
IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
I THINK THERE IS DETAILS OF THE BILL HERE.
THERE ARE POLITICAL QUESTIONS THAT STIR UP.
THE IDEA OF ELECTION INTEGRITY.
DOES THAT STIR UP OTHER THOUGHTS?
THINK THAT COLORADO ELECTIONS ARE AT RISK.
WHEN PATTY HAS NOTED THEY HAVE BEEN A GOLD STANDARD SINCE WE WENT INTO MAIL-IN BALLOTS YEAR AGO.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> HAVE GOOD POINT AND GOOD QUESTION.
THERE IS A LOT IN THIS BILL.
A LOT OF IT GOES HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE ELECTIONS ARE RUN SMOOTHLY AND THERE IS NO TAMPERING WITH A LOT OF THE MACHINES.
I THINK THIS BILL COULD HAVE BEEN CALLED THE TINA PETERS ACT.
IT IS ALL OF THE BILLS THE SYSTEM'S INTEGRITY THAT THE SECRETARY HAS MADE AGAINST TINA PETERS SPECIFICALLY.
I LISTENED TO THIS TESTIMONY.
"YOU KNOW, TINA PETERS REALLY IN" HER ENTIRE TESTIMONY CITED A BUNCH OF CODE PROVISIONS.
AND SO I DO THINK FOR SOMEONE WHO JUST COMES TO IT BLINDLY AND DOESN'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND THEY WILL START TO THINK IS THERE SOMETHING BROKEN THAT WE NEED TO FIX?
THERE WERE CLEARLY ISSUES THAT NEEDED TO BE TO FIX UP A LITTLE BIT.
IT DOES A LOT MORE.
IF WE THOUGHT WE HAD A GOLD STANDARD LAW FROM OUR 2013 WE "GOT TO FEEL VERY, VERY CONFIDENT" AFTER THIS BILL PASSES AS WELL.
>> ALSO JOINING US LIKE I MENTIONED AT THE TOP A DEAR FRIEND AND PART OF THE LEGEND DANNY JOINS US.
A DEAR FRIEND AND LONG TIME TEAMMATE HERE AT CHANNEL 12 IN VARIOUS FORMS.
"DANNY, AS YOU AND I WERE" PRODUCING TOGETHER.
YOU WERE GUIDING ME BACK WHEN I WAS AN INTERN.
"WE WERE LOOKING AT DEBATES, A" SECRETARY OF STATE DEBATE WAS GOING TO BE BORING.
NOW IT IS SURPRISE FIGHT IN COLORADO.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS BILL AND "EVERYTHING GOING AROUND, THE" POSITIONS AND PERSONALITIES INVOLVED WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> YOU WOULD ASK -- FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER.
I KNEW WHEN YOU WERE A INTERN HERE.
YOU ARE DEAR TO MY HEART.
I WISH YOU THE BEST.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION AND LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HAVE ELECTION INTEGRITY HERE AND ELECTION INTEGRITY HERE.
YOU HAVE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE TRYING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM VOTING.
THESE ARE TRUMPED UP ALLEGATIONS.
THERE HAS NO BE VOTER FRAUD EXCEPT MARK MEADOWS.
BUT WHAT THIS WHOLE POST ELECTION DID SHOW IS HOW VULNERABLE SYSTEMS ARE TO MANIPULATION BY THOSE WHO WANT TO MAKE POLITICAL POINTS WHO WANT TO MASS POLITICAL POWER.
"THAT BEING SAID, YES, THE" LEGISLATURE DID NEED TO ACT -- PUT SOME PRODUCTIONS IN.
PATTY'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THE COLORADO ELECTIONS NOT JUST THE MACHINE THEMSELVES BUT BALLOT BOXES.
THE SYSTEM OF DROPPING YOUR BALLOT BOX IS THE GOLD STANDARD.
WE DON'T HAVE MARK MEADOWS TYPES OF VOTING WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN COLORADO.
"AND SO, TO THE EXTEND THAT THIS" BILL IS INTENDED TO -- TO FIRM UP SOME OF THE SOFTNESS IN THE "COLORADO SYSTEM, ONLY REVEALED" BY PEOPLE WHO ARE LYING.
THEN THAT'S GREAT.
OKAY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
IT WARMS MY HEART TO HAVE YOU BACK THAT IS GREAT.
LET'S GET TO OUR NEXT TOPIC.
>> U.S. DISTRICT COURT JUDGE PHILLIP BRIMMER DENIED TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER REQUEST FILED BY THE COLORADO MONTANA WYOMING STATE AREA CONFERENCE OF THE "NAACP, THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN" VOTERS OF COLORADO AND MI FAMILIA VOTA.
THE THREE ENTITIES FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST U.S. ELECTION "INTEGRITY PLAN, A GROUP ACCUSED" "OF GOING DOOR TO DOOR, ASKING" VOTERS ABOUT PERCEIVED ELECTION "IRREGULARITIES, WHILE SOMETIMES" ARMED.
THREE VOTING GROUPS ALLEGE THAT USEIP IS INTIMIDATING VOTERS AND VIOLATING THE FEDERAL VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE KU KLUX KLAN ACT.
"DAVID, YOU ARE ONE OF THREE" LEGAL EXPERTS WE HAVE ON THE PANEL TODAY.
WHAT DID YOU TAKE FROM THIS DECISION ABOUT THE RESTRAINING ORDER AND THE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING OUT ON THIS CASE AS WE MOVE FORWARD?
>> FOR THE ISSUES ON THIS CASE WE WILL PRESUMABLY SEE ACTUAL EVIDENCE IN COURT.
JUDGE BRIMMER IS THE CHIEF JUDGE IN COLORADO.
I THINK HIS OPINION SETS OUT THINGS PLAINLY.
A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER IS THE MOST EXTREME THING.
I'M GOING TO BE INJURED VERY "SOON SO YOUR HONOR, ISSUE THIS" ORDER AND DON'T BOTHER TO LISTEN TO EVIDENCE FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
THAT'S HOW BIG AN EMERGENCY THIS IS.
AS THE JUDGE POINTS OUT IN HIS "OPINION, ALL THE ALLEGATIONS" FROM THE PLAINTIFFS EVEN IF YOU SAY YOU PRESUME THEY ARE TRUE.
THE LAST TIME ANYTHING HAPPENED WAS IN DECEMBER.
AND HE RIGHTLY SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE THINGS THAT OCCURRED IN DECEMBER AND YOU ARE COMING IN APRIL SAYING GIVE ME AN EMERGENCY ORDER.
DON'T BOTHER TO HAVE SWORN EVIDENCE IN COURT.
"THAT WAS RIDICULOUS, I CAN'T" UNDERSTAND HOW THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE PLAINTIFFS COULD ASK FOR SOMETHING.
"AND ON TOP OF THAT, HE POINTS" OUT LOTS OF OTHER FAILURES.
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE OTHER PART WHEN YOU ARE FILING A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER.
THESE VARIOUS GROUPS NONE OF THESE PLEADING ALLEGE THAT ONE OF THEIR MEMBERS WAS INJURED OR EVEN AFFECTED THAN THIS OTHER GROUP THEY DON'T LIKE.
THE PLAINTIFFS DON'T ALLEGE THAT A SINGLE MEMBER OF ANY OF THEIR GROUPS EVER TAUGHT TO ONE OF THESE ALLEGED BAD DOERS.
IT SEEMS TO BE VERY POOR LAWYERING.
ABSOLUTELY TO REDUCE THEIR REQUEST FOR RESTRAINING ORDER.
>> WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THIS IS SEVERAL THINGS IN PLAY.
"THERE IS LAWSUIT, THERE IS" ACCUSATIONS.
IT IS NOT JUST THIS REQUEST.
"IF THIS ONE DOES GO POORLY, DOES" IT -- OTHER EFFORTS.
>> IT MIGHT.
TO DANNY'S POINT TRYING TO STOP INDIVIDUALS IN THE INITIAL COMPLAINT THIS PARTICULAR ENTITY U.S.
INTEGRITY PLAN IS TRYING TO INTIMIDATE VOTERS.
THEY THEMSELVES THIS PARTICULAR GROUP ACKNOWLEDGES IT WAS GOING DOOR TO DOOR WITH THE ATTEMPT -- IT IS DISTURBING THAT IF SOME OF THESE ALLEGATIONS ARE BORN OUT "THEY WERE TARGETING LATINOS," INDIVIDUALS OF COLOR VOTERS COMING ACROSS AS THEY WERE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND SOMEHOW HAD THIS PERMISSION TO GET YOUR NAME AND HOW YOU VOTED.
"IT IS INTIMIDATION, THAT IS THE" POINT.
THAT IS THE INTENT.
THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I DO WORRY THAT IF THE CASE DECIDES DIFFERENTLY OR GOES AGAINST THE PLAINTIFF THAT IT MIGHT HURT OTHER EFFORTS.
THE ONE THING I DO APPRECIATE IS THERE IS NOISE BEING MADE ABOUT THESE INTIMIDATION EFFORTS.
WE ALL GOT TO KNOW ABOUT THEM.
THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
>> THE OLD SAYING SAYS HISTORY DOESN'T REPEAT BUT IT RIMES.
YOU ARE A STUDENT OF HISTORY.
ARE YOU SEEING ANY RHYMING HERE?
>> I AM.
IT IS TERRIBLE.
IN COLORADO NOW WE HAVE A LAW THAT PROHIBITS ANYONE OPENING CARRYING A GUN IN A POLLING PLACE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
THERE IS THE NIGHTMARE POSSIBILITY OF PEOPLE GOING DOOR TO DO SOMETIMES WITH GUNS SHOWING OR A BADGE.
YOU KNOW GIVING SOME KIND OF AUTHORITY WHEN THEY DON'T IT.
AGAIN AND AGAIN THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT REASONABLE.
HOW MANY TIMES DID TRUMP OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION?
YOU HAD 50 COURT DECISIONS JUST THROWING OUT THEIR CLAIMS.
THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY.
THIS IS WHAT IS STILL HAPPENING.
THIS WAS THE REASON FOR VOTING ACTS OF 1965.
PEOPLE HAVEN'T REFORMED.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HADN'T REFORMED.
THEY HAVE DOUBLED DOWN ON THEIR ENTIRE TO RESTRICT CERTAIN PEOPLE FROM VOTING.
"THOSE PEOPLE HAPPEN TO BE BLACK," "BROWN, ELDERLY, YOUNG, THAT'S" WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
LIVING ASIDE WHETHER THE LAWYERING WAS POOR OR NOT.
THE PROBLEM STILL REMAINS THAT YOU HAVE NOT JUST INDIVIDUALS.
YOU HAVE A POLITICAL PARTY INTENT OF RESTRICTING THE ABILITY TO VOTE.
>> IT SEEMS THAT COLORADO IS A MAG -- MAG NANT.
IT IS GOING TO GET HOT.
LET ME DEFEND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SORT OF.
WHICH IS MANY -- I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE CLERKS IN COLORADO ARE REPUBLICAN AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB.
THE MAJORITY.
TINA PETERS ASIDE.
THEY ARE BEING THREATEN THEMSELVES.
WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM.
THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
IT IS NOT JUST THE DOOR TO DOOR.
IT IS THE CALLS YOU GET.
LOOK AT MY MOTHER'S MAIL SOMETIMES.
FRAUDULENT MAILINGS LOOK LIKE THEY ARE GOVERNMENT AND THEY ARE SCARING YOU ABOUT VOTING AND WHAT CAN GO ON.
"PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE," THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE WITHOUT BEING HARASSED YOU WOULD HOPE.
LET'S PUSH WHAT IS WORKING IN COLORADO.
LET'S STAND UP FOR IT.
LET'S PUSH IT NATIONWIDE IF WE CAN.
ONE OF THE FIRST STATES TO ALLOW MAIL-IN VOTING NOW WORKING ON NATIONAL LEVEL IT IS WORKING HERE.
LET'S SUPPORT PEOPLE AND "LET'S -- I'M NOT A LAWYER, I'M" NOT GOING TO SUE THEM.
LET US MOCK THE PEOPLE TRYING TO DESTROY VOTING.
>>> THE LATEST IN HOUSING THIS WEEK MONDAY MORNING GOVERNOR POLIS ANNOUNCED A THREE BILL PACKAGE TO HELP ADDRESS THE HOMELESS EPIDEMIC.
"COLLECTIVELY, THE MEASURES WOULD" FUNNEL $200 MILLION TOWARD HOMELESS SERVICES AND HOUSING CAMPUSES.
"MEANWHILE, THE TOWN OF VAIL HAS" MOVED TO CONDEMN A PARCEL OF LAND THAT VAIL RESORTS OWNS AND PLANS TO USE AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
TOWN OFFICIALS CLAIM THAT THE MOVE IS PROTECTING WINTER REFUGE FOR A HERD OF BIGHORN SHEEP.
DENISE WE START WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.
WHERE DO YOU GO FROM HERE?
>> THOSE ARE DEFINITELY COMPETING INTERESTS.
I'M GOING TO SAY I THINK WHAT IS IN THE BILL PACKAGE THAT WAS ANNOUNCED IS VERY GOOD AND VERY MUCH NEEDED.
I WORRY THAT A LOT OF IT IS TOO LITTLE.
IN THE SINCE IT IS ONE TIME MONEY.
A LOT OF IT COMES FROM THE RESCUE PACKAGE.
IT IS GOOD IDEAS.
IT IS GOOD PROGRAMS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE GOVERNOR MENTIONED IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE HE SAID A LOT OF THE WORK YOU ARE GOING TO DO ON ISSUES OF HOMELESSNESS YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
THAT IS WHERE IT STARTS.
I THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN VAIL IS PUTTING THE SPOTLIGHT ON THAT.
THERE IS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT "SIDES, OF COURSE, AS THEY" USUALLY IS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE SAYING THERE IS CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA WHERE THE BIGHORN SHEEP ARE.
YOU REALLY DON'T WANT THIS KIND OF HOUSING THERE.
I HOPE THEY WORK THAT OUT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FOLKS.
YOU ARE GOING TO BE FACING A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM WHEN THEY ARE IN FACT HOMELESS AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT THAT.
>> I DID NOT HAVE -- IT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR STAFF.
PEOPLE WHO WORK IN VAIL RESORTS DON'T NEED TO COME OUT OF RIFLE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ON BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM.
>> STARTING WITH VAIL IT IS INTERESTING HABITAT FOR HUMANITY BUILDS FOR TEACHERS.
THE POPULATION YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT CAN'T AFFORD HOMES.
THEY ARE BUILDING FOR TEACHERS AND OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES.
PUBLIC SERVICE ENTITIES.
WHEN YOU LOOK WHAT IS GOING ON "IN DENVER, IT IS NOT JUST A" HOUSING CRISIS.
IT IS A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.
YOU CAN'T SEPARATE ONE FROM THE OTHER.
WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING WE DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM OF MENTAL SYSTEM.
PEOPLE GETTING LOCAL TREATMENT.
PEOPLE NOT BEING INSTITUTIONALIZED.
YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WHO HAVE WAY MORE PROBLEMS.
I'M THRILLED THAT THIS PACKAGE IS TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT.
I'M KIND OF LIKE IS THAT GOING TO BE ENOUGH.
"I'M THINKING NO, IT IS NOT."
AT LEAST REALIZING THAT THE HOMELESSNESS THAT IS ALMOST THE END OF THE LINE.
IT IS HOW THAT PERSON GOT THERE AND DEALING WITH THOSE FAULT LINES THAT LED TO THE PEOPLE BEING HOMELESS.
>> DID YOU HAVE TO MOVE ANY BIG HORN SHEEP?
>> NO.
IT IS A DIFFERENT ONE IN MOST SITUATIONS.
SKI AREAS HAVE HAD EMPLOYEEING HOUSING FOREVER.
THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE TOWN THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A BIG ISSUE.
THEY WILL WORK SOMETHING OUT OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE NO EMPLOYEES IN VAIL.
BIG HORN SHEEP IS BUSINESSES ON THE MAUL.
PUSHED FOR THE CAMPING PLAN TEN YEARS.
WE DON'T SEE IT SOLVED HOMELESSNESS.
IT MOVED PEOPLE.
AND NOW THE STATE IS REALIZING "IT IS NOT A DENVER PROBLEM, IT" IS A STATEWIDE PROBLEM.
AS YOU ARE SWEPT OUT OF DENVER WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO?
A CONCENTRATED EFFORT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT KINDS OF SERVICES ARE NEEDED.
THERE ARE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF CONFIDENCES NEEDED.
IT IS A GOOD STEP.
">> DAVID, WRAP IT UP FOR US."
>> THE SHOW HAS BEEN TALKING HOMELESS SINCE 1988 OR EVEN EARLIER.
WE DON'T SEEM TO MAKE MUCH PROGRESS ON IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LOOKS PROMISING MORE FUNDING FOR RESIDENTIAL CAMPUS.
LONG-TERM HOUSING WHO ARE SUBSTANCE ABUSE ADDICTS TO START GETTING ON THEIR FEET.
WE HAVE THIS AT FORT LIONS.
THEY NEVER POINT YOU TO ANY STUDIES WHETHER THIS WORK.
I WENT TO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES FOR OPIOID ABUSERS.
WE DON'T HAVE MUCH RESEARCH.
I HOPE WE SPEND ALL THIS NEW MONEY YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE PUBLIC DATA WHETHER IT DOES WORK.
>> IT IS TIME FOR OUR FAVORITE PART OF THE SHOW DISGRACE OF THE WEEK.
>> A CANDIDATE THAT WANTS TO USE HIS NICKNAME LET'S GO BRANDON ON THE BALLOT.
SO FAR JENNA GRISWOLD HAS BEEN WISE TO SAY NO.
I DO RESEARCH KOPEL IT IS A DISGRACE.
>> DAVID?
>> CALLED THE SOCIALISTIC BY FLORIDIAN WITH DISNEY AND SAYING COLORADO WE DON'T DO THAT TO COMPANIES LIKE DISNEY AND TWITTER WHICH IS TRUE.
IF YOU OIL AND GAS OR A SMALL BUSINESS THAT WAS ELIMINATED BY THE POLIS LOCKDOWN AND THE STATE OF COLORADO INTERFERES QUITE A LOT IN PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
>> LISTENING TO AN INTOOEF WITH THE GOVERNOR.
MISINFORMED AND FLAT WRONG.
I THINK IT IS DISGRACEFUL.
>> DANNY?
>> I WILL SAY FOR GOVERNOR POLIS HIS CHARACTERIZATION WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE IT IS AGAINST THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
IT IS GOVERNMENT TAKING STEPS AGAINST A PRIVATE ENTITY FOR THEIR SPEECH.
AND THE SPEECH WAS DEFENDING THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS.
THE FLORIDA ALWAYS.
THE SUNSHINE IS GONE.
IT IS A DISGRACE.
>> TIME TO SAY SOMETHING NICE.
PATTY?
>> A FEW BLOCKS FROM HERE THE ART PARK IN RHINO AND THE NEW LIBRARY AFTER FAMOUS ARTIST.
>> DAVID?
>> THE DECIDER ON MASKS IS A DECISION TO BE MADE FOR CONGRESS.
CONGRESS NEVER DELEGATED TO THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL.
>> DENISE?
>> CITY COUNCILWOMAN JAMIE TORRES DIDN'T WANT THAT COLLECTION AGENCY TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO COLLECT FINES OF $300 OR LESS.
THAT IS A RECOGNITION THAT FINES AND FEES DUE TO COURT.
>> DANNY?
>> THE CONNECTICUT HOUSE OF REPRESENTS EXPANDING THE CATEGORIES OF HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS WHO CAN PERFORM ABORTION CARE AND PREVENTING CONNECTICUT FROM ENFORCING ANY OF THE ANTI-ABORTION VIGILANTE THAT COME OUT OF ANTIABORTION STATES.
>> JOINING ME ON MY LAST SHOWS AS WE SAID AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW DANNY WAS WITH ME WHEN I WAS AN INTERN.
SHE HAS HAD JOBS ALL AROUND.
SHE HAS HOSTED SHOWS.
WORKED ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS AROUND HERE.
YOU HAVE BEEN A DEAR FRIEND.
THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THIS.
THE LAST HARA SHOW.
>> I'M ABSOLUTELY STILL IN SHOCK.
IT WAS GOOD TO BE BACK.
I GUESS WE COULD DO BUT WE WON'T.
NOT TODAY.
THANK YOU IT WAS GOOD TO BE BACK.
THANK YOU.
>> IT WAS FITTING THAT WE WERE CHATTY TODAY.
THAT IS ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR "THIS EPISODE OF ""COLORADO INSIDE" "OUT."""
FROM EVERYONE HERE AT PBS12 I'M DOMINIC DEZZUTTI.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.

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