">> HI, EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO THE" "APRIL 29TH, 2022 EDITION OF" """COLORADO INSIDE OUT."""

I'M YOUR HOST DOMINIC DEZZUTTI.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

LONGTIME DENVER POLITICIAN DENNIS GALLAGHER PASSED AWAY LAST WEEK.

GALLAGHER SERVED AS AN AUDITOR AND CITY COUNCILMAN "OF DENVER, IN ADDITION TO" SERVING AS A STATE SENATOR FROMHIS BELOVED NORTH DENVER.

DENNIS ALSO WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SERVE AS A KEY INFLUENCE FOR OUR EMMY-AWARD WINNING TIME MACHINE SPECIALS.

HERE'S A CLIP FROM OUR TRIP TO 1858 WHERE HE PLAYS GENERAL "LARIMER, ARGUING WITH DR. TOM" NOEL ABOUT THE TURF WAR BETWEEN THE TOWNS OF DENVER AND AURARIA.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

>> I'M TIRED OF YOU CALLING GENERAL LARIMER A CLAIM JUMPER.

I'M NOT A CLAIM JUMPER.

YOU WERE DULY PAID FOR EVERY SCARE OF THIS SITE YOU GOT.

>> YOU STOLE THIS!

>> I DENY THAT COMPLETELY AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS ON TOP OF THIS JUG OF WHISKEY.

VERY DISTRESSING.

>> WHAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT "THIS, NOT ONLY WERE BOTH OF THEM" FANTASTIC.

"WE JUST SAID, HERE'S THE SETUP."

THEY CAME IN THEIR OWN COSTUMES AND ONE WAY THAT DENNIS WAS GENEROUS WITH HIS TIME WITH US.

LET'S GET TO COMMENTS ABOUT THIS.

DENNIS WAS A CHARACTER AND SOMEBODY WHO WAS ALWAYS ABOUT "NORTH DENVER, REGARDLESS OF WHAT" ROLE HE WAS PLAYING BE IT THE STATE OR THE GOVERNMENT?

">> ABOUT NORTH DENVER, DENVER" "AND ABOUT COLORADO, HE WAS IN" THE LEGISLATURE WHEN I FIRST STARTED.

HE HAD BEEN THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS AND HE WENT ON TO BEING COUNSELOR AND TO THE DENVER AUDITOR'S POSITION AND I FORGOT WHAT A WILD RACE THAT WAS.

HE CAME IN WITH ALL OF THESE CREDENTIALS.

HE WAS UP AGAINST CONGRESSWOMAN DEBBIE ORTEGA.

HE WENT INTO THAT OFFICE AND CHANGED IT A LOT.

"I MEAN, HE WAS A VERY GOOD," STRONG AUDITOR WHO COMPARED ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY.

HE WAS UPSET ABOUT I-70.

HE WAS SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING THIS A BETTER CITY.

HE WAS ALSO A LOT OF FUN.

HE WOULD PUT ON THESE DIFFICULT HISTORY COLORADO PROGRAMS WITH TOM NOEL.

I GOT TO INTERVIEW HIM.

HE WAS DENVER IN SO MANY WAYS.

WE SHOULD ALL BE INSPIRED TO TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND GET MORE INVOLVED IN WHAT WE DO.

>> DENNIS IS ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY GOT INVOLVED WITH POLICY.

I CONSIDER HIM AN OLD-SCHOOL POLITICIAN.

NOT AFRAID TO KNOCK ON DOORS AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH NEIGHBORS TO REALLY GET THE MOVEMENT ROLLING.

"CERTAINLY, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF" PEOPLE LEFT THAT COULD DO WHAT HE DID FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF DENNIS GALLAGHER?

>> HIS OBITUARY SAID HE LIKED GETTING OUT AND BEING WITH PEOPLE AND EVERYONE KNOWS ALL OF THE IRISH CELEBRATIONS THAT HE "DID BEING AN IRISH CATHOLIC, BUT" HE WAS VERY PRESENT AT JEWISH EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND JUST ENJOYED OTHER HUMAN BEINGS.

HE WAS A FAMILY FRIEND SINCE THE 1970s.

HE EXEMPLIFIED THE TRADITIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF BEING THE "WORKING MAN'S PARTY, THE" "GALLAGHER AMENDMENT, WHICH HE" PUSHED THROUGH IN 1928 AND WAS RECENTLY REPEALED.

"FOR A LONG TIME, MADE HOUSING" MORE AFFORDABLE IN COLORADO BY KEEPING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAXES LOW.

AND HE WAS ALSO -- LIKE THE "DEMOCRATIC PARTY AT THIS TIME, A" VERY STRONG CIVIL LIBERTARIAN BUT HE ALSO -- BECAUSE HE HAD GONE TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL HAD OUTSTANDING HANDWRITING.

ONE OF THE THINGS HE WOULD DO.

HE WAS VERY GOOD AT CALLIGRAPHY AND HE WOULD WRITE TO SOME PEOPLE.

HE WAS ABSOLUTELY A STRONG DENVER AND COLORADO PATRIOT.

">> ERIC, THERE'S SO MANY PARTS" OF DENVER THAT DENNIS GALLAGHER "LEFT AN IMPRESSION ON, WHETHER" IT'S HIS TIME AS AN AUDITOR AND "AS AN ALUMNUS, HE TAUGHT GREAT" CLASSES AND LED HISTORIC TOURS.

YOUR THOUGHTS OF GALLAGHER'S PASSING AND HIS IMPACT ON COLORADO.

>> I AGREE WITH PATTY AND DAVID.

"HE WAS A PEOPLE PERSON, OUT" THERE IN THE COMMUNITY PERSON.

DENNIS AND I NEVER DID THE SECRET HANDSHAKE.

I'M NOT GOING TO CLAIM A PERSONAL CLOSENESS THAT WAS NOT THERE.

DENVER IS A POORER CITY FOR HIS PASSING.

IT WAS A RICHER CITY FOR HIS "CONTRIBUTION, FOR HIS LIFE."

"HE WAS AN ORIGINAL, YOU KNOW, WE" ALL TALK ABOUT AUTHENTICITY IN POLITICS.

IT DOESN'T GET MUCH MORE AUTHENTIC THAN DENNIS GALLAGHER.

IT DOESN'T GET MUCH MORE AUTHENTIC.

MY FEAR IS 20 YEARS FROM NOW "AFTER ANOTHER GENERATION, YOU" MENTIONED THE NAME DENNIS "GALLAGHER, ALL OF THE PERSONAL" TOUCHES WILL BE LOST AND PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT THE GALLAGHER AMENDMENT AND WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS WITH PROPERTY VALUES.

">> DEAR FRIEND, ED," AWARD-WINNING SENIOR REPORTER AT "THE ""DENVER BUSINESS JOURNAL."""

YOU TALKED TO POLITICIANS FOR A LIVING.

CLEARLY DENNIS IN HIS MOMENTS -- PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR TIME BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T COVERING THE CITY HALL WHEN YOU WERE THERE.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE POLITICS IN THE STATE AND THE CITY.

>> TWO POINTS.

WE'VE MENTIONED THE GALLAGHER AMENDMENT WHICH LASTED FOR 38 YEARS.

"EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS REPEALED," IT SETS THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE PAYING FOR COLORADO AND THAT CONVERSATION BLED INTO ALL KINDS OF TAX DISCUSSIONS.

IT WAS NO LONGER ABOUT EVERYONE PAYING THEIR EQUAL PAY.

IT'S WHO SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS GROWTH AND PAYING THE PAY FOR IT.

AND THAT IMPACT WILL CONTINUE FAR BEYOND THE TIME OF THE GALLAGHER AMENDMENT.

"WHEN I THINK OF DENNIS, I THINK" "OF OUR NEIGHBOR, DOROTHY."

"LIVED NEXT DOOR, VERY OLD WOMAN."

LOVED TO CHAT AND SHE WOULD TELL ME ABOUT HOW DENNIS WOULD MAKE "SURE TO STOP BY EVERY YEAR," CATCH UP WITH HER.

HE KNEW HER.

SHE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES.

HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HER AND THAT'S THE IMPRESSION THAT SO MANY PEOPLE GOT OF DENNIS GALLAGHER AND THAT'S WHY WHEN HE TALKED PEOPLE LISTENED BECAUSE "WHEN YOU TALK, HE LISTENED AS" WELL AT A NEWS CONFERENCE EARLIER "THIS WEEK, GOVERNOR POLIS"ANNOUNCED MOST COLORADO TAXPAYERS WILL RECEIVE CHECKS FOR $400 OR MORE LATER THIS SUMMER.

THE CHECKS REPRESENT REFUNDS OF EXCESSIVE STATE REVENUE MANDATED BY TABOR AND WILL BE DISPERSED "IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, RATHER" "THAN IN SPRING OF NEXT YEAR, AS" ORIGINALLY PLANNED.

THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS CRITICIZED "BY REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS, CALLING" IT AN ELECTION YEAR POLITICAL TACTIC.

"DAVID, IT SEEMED LIKE THE SCENE" RIGHT THROUGH THE REBRANDING OF THIS HAPPENED VERY QUICKLY.

I DON'T THINK THIS FOOLED MANY PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION.

BUT REBRANDING IS THERE FOR A REASON.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT.

>> I SAY KUDOS TO GOVERNOR POLIS AND THE LEGISLATURE FOR DELIVERING SEVERAL MONTHS EARLIER.

THE 2020 REFUND AND PEOPLE WILL GET IT IN 2022.

I THINK THAT'S SAFER.

YOU LET THEM KEEP THE MONEY IN "UNTIL AFTER ELECTION DAY, THEY" MIGHT FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EVADE THE TAXPAYERS' BILL OF RIGHTS MORE AND KEEP THE MONEY AND SPEND IT FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES.

I WOULD ALSO SAY KUDOS TO THE LEADERS AGAINST PROPOSITION CC IN 2019.

THAT WAS SOMETHING BACKED BY GOVERNOR POLIS AND THE LEGISLATURE THAT WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED ALL OF YOUR TAX REFUNDS FOREVER.

IF THIS IS SOME KIND OF "POLITICAL TACTIC, I THINK IT'S" GREAT.

IT MAKES THE ISSUES CLEAR.

YOU HAVE THE ONE CANDIDATE WHO WANTED TO ELIMINATE REFUNDS FOREVER.

AND THE OTHER ACCOUNT WHO SAVED THEM.

AND WHEN YOU GET THAT $400 YOU CAN THINK ABOUT WHICH CANDIDATE YOU PREFER BEFORE VOTE.

>> I TRIED TO REBRAND ME TAKING THE TRASH OUT TO MY WIFE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

">> SPEAKING OF REBRANDING, I" WOULD PREFER YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT DAVID.

[ LAUGHTER] ">> WE'RE ALL PUTTING SLOGANS IN," I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT GOING FORWARD.

JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET MORE CYNICAL "ABOUT POLITICS, YOU GET MOVES" LIKE THIS.

THE ONLY THING LACKING IS JARED POLIS ADDING $100 OF HIS MONEY TO THE 400.

"LET'S JUST ROUND EVERYBODY OUT," A NICE $500 CHECK.

POLIS' QUOTE -- """OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE" "CYNICS TO DECRY IT."""

"YES, THOSE WHO SEE POLITICAL" MOTIVES HERE ARE THE CYNICS IN POLIS' MIND.

THIS IS A WASH IN MONEY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF TABOR.

THAT MONEY HAS TO BE TURNED.

TRADITIONALLY IT'S BEEN RETURNED THE FOLLOWING SPRING.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN ELECTION YEAR COMING UP.

AN ELECTION COMING UP IN "NOVEMBER, I'M SURE IT IS" ENTIRELY COINCIDENTAL.

">> ED, YOU ARE RIGHT THERE AND" YOU ARE SEEING REACTIONS ON BOTH SIDES.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME "CLEVER REBRANDING HAS HAPPENED," AND YOUR THOUGHTS AND THE REACTIONS AT THE CAPITOL.

">> WELL, IT'S PART OF A SERIES" OF NEWS BEING MADE BY THE LEGISLATIVE DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE.

LAST YEAR THEY PASSED $5.48 BILLION INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THAT SET UP THE ROAD USAGE FEE.

OTHERWISE KNOWN AS A GAS TAX.

THAT WAS SET TO GO INTO PLACE IN -- ON JULY 1st.

"BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY PUSHED" THE DELAY ON THAT OUT TO -- RIGHT AFTER OF THE ELECTION.

I WILL GIVE THEM CREDIT.

IT WILL BE UNTIL JANUARY.

THEY'VE FOUND A WAY TO GET BACK TO APRIL OF NEXT YEAR AND PEOPLE "SAY, BOY THAT'S COINCIDENTAL AND" "IT IS, LOOK."

WE CAN DEBATE THIS.

POLIS' PUSH MEANS PEOPLE NEED RELIEF NOW AND YOU CAN ARGUE THEY NEED RELIEF OVER THE NEXT "YEAR.

YOU CAN ARGUE, FUNNY HOW" THE REST OF THIS YEAR IS AN ELECTION YEAR WHERE YOU AND YOUR PARTY ARE TRYING TO HANG ONTO THE -- THEY ARE GIVING A ONE-YEAR BREAK ON FIVE DIFFERENT FEES THAT BUSINESSES PAY TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE.

"I ASKED THE SPONSORS, WHY ONE" YEAR?

WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET FINED IN THE FUTURE.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> YOU ARE LAUGHING AND SOME PEOPLE NOT.

I THINK ANYBODY WHO SAYS IT'S RIDICULOUS TO ASSUME THIS COULD BE RELATED TO THE ELECTION IS WRONG AND THOSE WHO SAY THIS IS ONLY RELATED TO THE ELECTIONS "HAVE TO ASK, DON'T WE NEED" RELIEF?

">> PATTY, YOU OFFERED A RECENT" ANALYSIS ON THE PODCAST OF DENVER.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT COME OUT OF THE CYNICISM?

MAYBE THERE'S FOLKS WATCHING OUR SHOW.

"FOR THE AVERAGE COLORADO VOTER," IS IT CYNICISM THAT WILL RULE THE DAY?

">> ONE THING, PEOPLE WILL BE" "REMINDED OF WHAT TABOR IS, WE" PASSED THAT IN 1992 AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA FOR THE TAXPAYER BILL OF RIGHTS CLAIM.

WHAT KIND OF EFFECTS IT HAS HAD AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT YOU GET A REFUND WHEN THE STATE COLLECTS CERTAIN AMOUNTS.

GOES WAY OVER THE ANTICIPATED BUDGET.

THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SEE WITH OUR $400.

BUT ALSO TABOR GAVE -- BASICALLY HAD PUT IT IN LAW THAT YOU HAD "TO LET THE TAXPAYERS AND VOTERS," IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN "INCREASED TAX, THAT'S BEEN A" REAL CHANGE OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS.

AND I THINK MOST COLORADANS WOULD APPLAUD THAT.

THEY WILL ALSO APPLAUD GETTING THEIR $400 BACK EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT NOT BUY ANYTHING MORE THAN LET'S PRAY BY AUGUST 100 GALLONS OF GAS.

WE NEED TO REMEMBER WHAT TABOR IS.

DO WE WANT TO REPEAL SOME OF IT?

DO WE NOT?

I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ON A BUDGET FOR HOW LONG THEIR LINES CAN BE WHEN THEY SEND OUT ANNOUNCEMENTS BECAUSE THEY ALL START NOW WITH AS PROMISED WE'RE GIVING YOU A LOT OF MONEY AND WE'RE TAKING CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW.

EVERY RELEASE IS COMING OUT LIKE THAT.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHO SAVES MONEY.

KING SOOPERS.

NEXT TOPIC.

THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE VOTED 3-2 TO.

ADVANCE A BILL TO ADDRESS FENTANYL OVERDOSES.

THE MEASURE WILL MAKE CHANGES TO OPIATE "REGULATION , TREATMENTS AND."

CRIMINAL PENALTIES.

>> THE ISSUE THAT'S TRICKY IS "THE NOTION, NOT JUST THE AMOUNT," "THE ONE GRAM PIECE, BUT THE" PIECE OF KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAD TO KNOW IT WAS LACED WITH FENTANYL BEFORE WHAT YOU ARE POSSESSING BEFORE YOU CAN BE ACCUSED OF A FELONY AND THEN YOU JUST OPEN UP A WHOLE NEW LEGAL CAN OF WORMS IN ANY PROSECUTION BECAUSE YOU NOT ONLY HAVE TO "PROVE POSSESSION, YOU HAVE TO" "PROVE KNOWLEDGE, I THINK, THAT'S" WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT COME OUT OF THE BILL BETWEEN HERE AND THERE.

WE STILL HAVE AWAYS TO GO.

">> ED, YOU ARE RIGHT THERE WHERE" THE ACTION IS HAPPENING.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES BUT ON THE ISSUE OVERALL?

>> WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS LEGISLATURE CAME IN SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE A SECTION THAT LOOKED TO REDUCE CRIME AND THIS WILL DEFINE THE LEGISLATIVE "RESPONSE TO CRIME, EVEN THOUGH" THERE REPEALED A NUMBER OF OTHER BILLS CREATING GRANTS FOR HIRING PEOPLE PERIOD.

I THINK YOU ARE ALSO SEEING THE "REACTION TO THIS, QUITE FRANKLY," DEFINING THE MAYORAL RACE FOR 2023.

YOU HAVE LEGISLATORS LOOKING AT "THAT RACE, WHO IS SAYING WE NEED" TO BE CAREFUL TO NOT OVER CRIMINALIZE THINGS.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS IS THINGS THAT HELP PEOPLE.

ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL HAS COME OUT "AND SAID, I WILL BACK THIS."

BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

WE NEED TO CRIMINALIZE MORE AND TAKE CARE OF THIS MORE.

WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE "SCENE, PEOPLE REALIZE THIS IS A" BILL WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

THIS WILL AFFECT THE MAYOR RACE AND POSSIBLY CRIME IN 2022.

">> PATTY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?"

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT FOR IN THE FUTURE.

>> I SEE NO EVIDENCE THAT FENTANYL MAKES YOU STEAL CATALYTIC CONVERTERS OR CARS WHICH IS THE BIG ISSUE.

COLORADO IS THE NUMBER ONE STATE IN THE NATION FOR CAR THEFTS.

THE OTHER THING I'M PRETTY SURE "WE CAN PROVE, EVEN A TRACE" AMOUNT OF FENTANYL CAN KILL A POLITICAL CAREER.

>> DAVID?

">> WELL, I HOPE THEY KEEP IN THE" REQUIREMENTS BEFORE YOU PROSECUTE SOMETHING AND SEND THEM TO PRISON FOR THE FELONY OF POSSESSING SOMETHING.

THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO PROVE THAT YOU KNEW YOU HAD IT.

THAT'S SIMPLE FAIRNESS.

THAT'S -- IN A LOT OF THE DRUG "WARS AND OTHER THINGS, THOSE" KIND OF PROTECTIONS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED BUT THE PROBLEM WITH CRITICIZING THE DRUG WAR IS THE -- AND I THINK CRIMINAL LAW AND PUBLIC HEALTH IDEAS HAVE "SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE, IF YOU" "GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEALTH THING," WE HAVE A UNION STATION.

IT'S A DISASTER THAT YOU HAVE IN CALIFORNIA AND IT'S THE ABSOLUTE DESTRUCTION OF THE CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO WHEN YOU THINK THAT ONLY PUBLIC HEALTH IS THE WAY YOU ARE GOING TO APPROACH THESE PROBLEMS.

COLORADO IS BECOMING SO PRONE TO DROUGHT THAT THE USDA HAS DECLARED THE ENTIRE STATE A """PRIMARY NATURAL DISASTER AREA,""" AND BUZZ IS BUILDING ABOUT HOWTO ADDRESS THAT AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

HOUSE BILL 1355 WOULD ESTABLISH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN CHARGE OF LEVYING RECYCLING DUES TO "MANUFACTURERS, SHIFTING THE" COSTS OF RECYCLING PROGRAMS FROM CONSUMERS TO BUSINESS.

LEGAL CONSULTATION MAY HAMPER THE BILL'S PROGRESS WITH REPORTS SAYING IT COULD BE A VIOLATIONOF FIVE DIFFERENT LAWS.

"THAT'S NOT MUCH OF A HURDLE, ED."

"BUT YOU COVERED THE STORY," ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR WORK WITH "THE ""DENVER BUSINESS JOURNAL."""

IS THIS THING GOING TO GET OUT OF LEGISLATURE?

COLORADO HAS A 15% RECYCLING RATE.

THAT SUCKS.

EVERYBODY AGREES THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

"HOWEVER -- OF COURSE, WE KNEW" THERE WAS GOING TO BE DEBATE ABOUT THE METHOD BY WHICH THE STATE COULD FORCE CHANGE.

THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT BILL AND YOU ALWAYS SEE THE IS THIS CONSTITUTIONAL?

IS THIS TABOR WORTHY DEBATE?

THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WHAT 1355 DOES IS IT CREATES A FIRST-OF-ITS-KIND VOLUNTARY NONPROFIT INTO WHICH ALL PRODUCERS OF THE GOODS THAT ARE PACKAGED MUST JOIN AND MUST PAY DUES THAT ARE DETERMINED BY THIS GROUP.

WE'VE NEVER QUITE SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.

"YOU KNOW, THERE ARE VERY SMALL" OUTS FOR GETTING OUT OF IT.

"BUT THE QUESTION IS, IT'S VERY" LEGITIMATE HERE.

IS THIS NOT JUST EVADING THE "STATE'S ENTERPRISE LAWS, WHICH" STATE IF YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE "AN ENTERPRISE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO" VOTE ON IT?

AND IS THIS NOT -- IS THIS EVEN LEGAL TO CREATE AN OUT-OF-GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION THAT COMPELS OTHERS TO JOIN IT?

I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE "BILL, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO GO" "DOWN, IT WILL BE AROUND THE" ORGANIZATION OF HOW THIS WILL HAPPEN.

AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO DISCUSS WHETHER THIS IS A WAY THAT THINGS CAN HAPPEN.

">> PATTY, PBS 12 WOULD HAVE A" VOLUNTARY BUT YOU MUST JOIN "POLICY, BUT IF THIS WORKS, WHAT" DO YOU THINK WE'LL SEE ABOUT THIS AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AT THE CAPITOL?

>> THIS BILL WILL BE TAKEN OUT IN THE TRASH.

THE QUESTION IS WILL IT BE RECYCLED IN ANOTHER FORM NEXT YEAR.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> IT COULD BE.

"IN THE MEAN TIME, WE HAVE DENVER" LOOKING AT A BIG NEW TRASH PROGRAM WHERE YOU COULD PAY MORE DEPENDING UPON HOW MUCH YOU GET OUT.

RECYCLING COMPOSTING AND I THINK THE CITY BY CITY CONCEPT TO WHERE TO GO.

THIS IS NOT A SMART SOLUTION.

">> DAVID, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU" FOLLOW THAT.

BUT IT'S YOUR TURN.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE'LL SEE HERE?

>> LET'S FOCUS ON THE DROUGHT.

THE DROUGHT WAS DECLARED BECAUSE "WE HAD ALL 64 COUNTIES, EIGHT" WEEKS OF VERY LOW PRECIPITATION.

IT WAS AS DECLARED IN SOME OF THE COUNTIES.

"DROUGHTS HAPPEN HERE, IT'S BEEN" GOING ON AS LONG AS THIS CLIMATE HAS EXISTED.

COLORADO IS SEMI-ARID.

YOU WILL HAVE HAVE DROUGHTS.

THE FORMER HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RSOURCES "WROTE AN ARTICLE CALLED ""A LAND" "WHERE LIFE IS WRITTEN IN WATER""" AND WE NEED TO IMPROVE WATER STORAGE AND WATER EFFICIENCY USE IN COLORADO SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THESE DROUGHT YEARS.

ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE MADE IS AGRICULTURAL "USERS, WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING TO" IMPROVE THEIR -- IF YOU DO THAT "UNDER COLORADO LAW, YOU JUST" LOSE YOUR RIGHTS.

THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE "THE EFFICIENCY OF THE USE, USE" LESS AND SELL IT.

>> IT'S CYNICISM.

LEADING OFFICIALS IN GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE A MISSION OF REDUCING "CYNICISM, NOT CONTRIBUTING TO" IT.

"I FIND THIS BILL, BACK TO THE ED" "AND PATTY CONVERSATION, TO" JUST -- YOUR PARTICIPATION IT IS COMPULSORY.

THIS IS AN END RUN AROUND PROPOSITION 117 WHICH THE VOTERS PASSED ON ENTERPRISE ZONES.

WE WE JUST GET MORE CYNICAL AND DIVIDES AS A COUNTRY.

>> LET'S GO TO DISGRACE THE WEEK.

>> DIRECTOR DAN PRONZELL WAS LOBBYING A WOMAN WHO PUT ON A "PROGRAM, WHO IS BLACK."

"HE SAID THERE, SHE IS IN THE" BACK OF THE BUS.

WORDS MATTER.

BE CAREFUL.

HE'S ON LEAVE WHERE THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION.

>> DAVID?

>> THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY IS CREATING THIS NEW MINISTRY OF MISINFORMATION.

SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN STOP PEOPLE FROM HAVING WRONG THINGS ABOUT IDEAS AND THE PERSON THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS NOMINATED IS AN EXPERT SPREADER OF MISINFORMATION LIKE THE FLAT-OUT LIE THAT THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP WAS A FAKE THING.

THE PROBLEM WITH GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF THIS SERVICE IS THE GOVERNMENT IS THE CREATOR ITSELF OF SO MUCH INFORMATION.

>> ERIC?

>> PATTY REFERENCED THAT COLORADO LEADS THE NATION IN CAR THEFTS.

THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE STATISTIC.

I CAN ATTEST TO IT.

I WROTE ABOUT MY OWN EXPERIENCE COMING OFF A MINOR ACCIDENT.

SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

UNINSURED MOTORIST ISSUES AND THE CAR BEING STOLEN.

MY DISGRACE GOES TO THE CITY OF AURORA.

TO RETRIEVE YOUR CAR FROM THE IMPOUND LOT REQUIRES THAT YOU PAY $160 TOW CHARGE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THE TOW CHARGE AND THEN IT'S $35 A FEE FOR STORAGE AND AFTER "SEVERAL MONTHS, YOU HAVE WRAPPED" UP THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND THEY KEEP YOUR CAR.

>> ED?

>> IT'S A VERY POPULOUS IDEA TO GO AFTER FORGIVING STUDENT LOANS THIS WEEK.

THE PRESIDENT IS DOUBLING DOWN ON THIS.

"I WORRY AS HE DOES THAT, WE" DEVALUE HIGHER EDUCATION BY TELLING PEOPLE -- [ INAUDIBLE ] >> SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT SOMETHING QUICKLY.

>> THE JUDGE WHO DETERMINED THAT DAVE WILLIAMS COULD NOT USE HIS LET'S GO BRANDON NICKNAME IN THE CRADLE.

[LAUGHTER] >> DAVID?

>> TWO COLORADANS WHO ARE SERVING ON THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION.

>> ERIC?

>> COLORADO PUBLIC RELATIONS PRO "AND ALL-AROUND GOOD HUMAN, BRAD" BOUMAN WHO HAS SPENT THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS ON HIS OWN TIME WORKING WITH UKRAINIAN REFUGEES.

>>> ED?

>> JASON HANSON ORGANIZED A "PROJECT CALLED ""HIDE BEHIND" "2020."""

WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK BACK A HUNDRED YEARS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANT.

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE AND MORE IDEAS TO PROMOTE GOODS.

>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO END ABOUT MY DEAR FRIEND WHO HAS JOINED US FROM THIS EPISODE.

I'M IN MY LAST FEW SHOWS.

BUT I -- I WAS LOOKING FOR A GREAT PANELIST IN 2008.

LYNN BARTLE.

SHE'S BEEN MY GO-TO.

I'M BUSY.

I CAN'T DO IT.

WHO IS THAT?

JUST CALL HIM.

I DID AND ONE OF THE GREATEST PIECES GIVEN TO US THIS YEAR.

THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF YOUR AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND BEING A GREAT FRIEND.

THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THIS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON "ONE OF THESE LAST SHOWS, IT" MEANS THE WORLD TO ME.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME THAT WE HAVE.

"FOR EVERYBODY HERE AT PBS 12," THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.

GOOD NIGHT.