SUE: TODAY ON GREATER BOSTON, AS DONALD TRUMP AWAITS AND RAIMENT -- AWAITS ARRAIGNMENT IN MANHATTAN AND CALLS ON SUPPORTERS TO PROTEST, WHAT ARE THESE CHARGES MEAN FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT, HIS FELLOW REPUBLICANS AND THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE?

THEN, THE BRUINS MAKE HISTORY AND CLINCH A SPOT IN THE POSTSEASON.

WHAT CAN WE EXPECT AS THE BIG GAMES GET CLOSER AND CLOSER?

THAT IS AHEAD.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY AS YOU KNOW, A FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT IS ABOUT TO SURRENDER HIMSELF TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND APPEAR IN COURT ON CRIMINAL CHARGES.

DONALD TRUMP FLEW TO NEW YORK THIS AFTERNOON AND IS EXPECTED TO APPEAR BEFORE A MANHATTAN JUDGE TOMORROW ON ABOUT 30 COUNTS INCLUDING FELONIES ELATED TO BUSINESS FRAUD AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATIONS STEMMING FROM ALLEGED HUSH MONEY PAYMENTS HE MADE TO ADULT FILM STAR STORMY DANIELS.

SINCE THE NEWS FIRST BROKE OF HIS COMING INDICTMENT, THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS COME OUT IN FULL FORCE AGAINST THE CASE URGING HIS SUPPORTERS TO PROTEST WHO HE HAS CALLED THE QUOTE CORRUPT MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

TRUMP HEATING JUDGE AND THE CHARGES HE IS AMOUNTING TO ELECTION INTERFERENCE.

THOUGH WE WILL NOT KNOW THE EXACT CHARGES OF THE INDICTMENT ARE UNTIL THE OFFICIAL FILING IS UNSEALED AFTER TRUMP APPEARS IN COURT UNLESS THERE IS A LEAK, HE AND HIS ATTORNEYS ARE ALREADY MOUNTING A FULL THROATED DEFENSE.

>> WE KNOW THIS WAS BASED ON STORMY DANIELS.

WE KNOW THIS WAS DESIST -- THIS WAS DISMISSED BY FEDERAL PROSECUTOR SEVEN YEARS AGO.

IT IS A BUNCH OF GARBAGE.

>> ELECTION INTERFERENCE THROUGH PROSECUTORS IS THE NEW BALLOT STUFFING FOR THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.

SUE: SO FAR, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'’T SEEM TO THINK SO.

60% OF ADULTS IN THE U.S. SUPPORT THE CHARGES.

ACCORDING TO A NEW CNN POLL.

REPUBLICANS ARE STAUNCHLY AGAINST THE CHARGES WITH NEARLY 80% DISAPPROVING.

MORE THAN 54% SAYING THEY STRONGLY DISAPPROVE.

WE ALL REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME TRUMP SUPPORTERS FELT LIKE AN ELECTION WAS BEING STOLEN FROM HIM.

SO WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT THIS TIME?

I'’M JOINED BY FORMER MASSACHUSETTS PUBLIC SAFETY SECRETARY SEC.

ANDREA CABRAL AND OZZIE PALOMO, FOUNDER AND MANAGING DIRECTOR OF CHARTWELL STRATEGY GROUP.

THEY CAN BE BOTH POLITICAL MOTIVATED AND JUSTIFIED THE CHARGES BE BROUGHT TO KEEP HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS AS ONE OR THE OTHER.

IT WAS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.

IT DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING OVER IT IS JUSTIFIED.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS.

IT CAN BE BOTH.

SEC.

ANDREA CABRAL IT CAN BE.

I THINK IN THIS CASE YOU'’RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE AND I HAVE SAID THIS ABOUT TRUMP MANY TIMES, HE WAS NEVER A REAL PRESIDENT BUT HE WAS ALWAYS A CRIMINAL.

TRUMPS CRIMINALITY GOES WAY BACK TO HIS REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER DAYS.

AND THIS IDEA -- THE ALLEGATION THAT COMES FROM HIM AND HIS ATTORNEYS AND HIS SUPPORTERS THAT THIS IS A POLITICALLY MOTIVATED PROSECUTION RINGS HOLLOW WHEN YOU STOP TO THINK THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP HE TOOK OR ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS HE TOOK TO RIG THE ELECTION.

TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.

HAD PEOPLE KNOWN HE HAD PAID OFF STORMY DANIELS BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE ELECTION, IT MIGHT OF HAD A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON HIS ABILITY TO BE ELECTED.

SO THE ELECTION RIGGING IN THE FORM OF THIS PAYOFF AND THE COVER-UP THAT FOLLOWED IS PRETTY MUCH SORT OF A SEMINAL STEP TOWARD HIM WRECKING AN ELECTION IN HIS FAVOR.

TO SAY IT IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED WHEN YOU HAVE POLITICIANS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS, SPEND THAT MONEY IN CERTAIN WAYS AND HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HOW THAT MONEY IS SPENT AND HOW THEY KNOW IT HAS BEEN SPENT, THAT IS A VERY BIG DEAL TO SAY THAT THE PRESIDENT IS EXEMPT FROM ALL OF THAT SO I THINK THAT RINGS HOLLOW.

I THINK THAT ACCUSATION RINGS HOLLOW.

SUE: I WAS TALKING TO A LAW PROFESSOR WHO IS ALSO A FORMER PROSECUTOR AND I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE POLITICS.

HAD THIS BEEN IN THE FEDERAL COURT INSTEAD OF A STATE COURT, WOULD THERE HAVE BEEN FEWER CLAIMS OF POLITICS BECAUSE THE PERSON IS NOT ELECTED AND SHE POINTED OUT THE FEDERAL COURT JUDGES ARE APPOINTED BY ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM PARTIES.

IS IT MUDDYING THE WATERS OF LOOKING AT THE ISSUE EVERY TIME SOMEONE SAYS THIS IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED?

OZZIE: YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT DISTRICT ATTORNEY BRAGGED CAMPAIGN ON BECOMEING DISTRICT ATTORNEY ON GOING PRESIDENT TRUMP.

ALVIN BRAGG'’S OWN PREDECESSOR TOOK A LOOK AT THIS AND DECIDED NOT TO.

I THINK ALVIN BRAGG HESITATED TO GO AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THESE CHARGES.

I THINK THERE WAS SOME POLITICAL MOTIVATION ON HIM TO FOLLOW THROUGH.

AGAIN, HE IS TRYING TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT IS LARGELY A FEDERAL ISSUE COMING A STATE ISSUE.

HE IS LOOKING AT A MISDEMEANOR AND HAVE IT BECOME A FELONY.

YOU CANNOT DENY THE POLITICAL UNDERTONES ALVIN BRAGG HAS TAKEN ON THIS.

THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING AND I THINK IT IS EVIDENT TO ANYONE WHO SEES THIS.

SUE: DO YOU WANT TO THAT?

SEC.

CABRAL: I DISAGREE WITH THAT ON THE BASIS OF FIRST OF ALL, CY VANCE ACCEPTED A 25,000 DOLLARS CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION AND HE MADE THE DECISION HE WAS NOT GOING TO GO AFTER THE TRUMP CHILDREN OR GO AFTER DONALD TRUMP.

I DO THINK ALVIN BRAGG WHEN IT DID A LOOK AT THIS A NEW AND THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IF YOU ARE THE DA AND YOU ARE GOING TO OWN A PROSECUTION SHOULD YOU WANT TO DOT EVERY I AND CROSS EVERY T. EVERY SINGLE ALLEGATION AGAINST TRUMP IS CHARACTERIZED AS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.

FOR A WHILE IT IS THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF.

EVERYTHING CANNOT BE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.

EVERY PROSECUTION, EVERY INVESTIGATION, EVERY ALLEGATION CANNOT BE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND WE HAVE TO FACE THE FACT HE HAS DONE MANY OF THESE THINGS IF NOT ALL OF THEM.

SUE: IS IT A BIT OF A MANIFESTATION ON THE TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS PART?

THE LAW CORRUPT, THE ACCUSING EVERYBODY OF BEING IN THE TANK FOR THE DEMOCRATS, ALWAYS PUSHING FOR THIS NARRATIVE YOU CANNOT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT UNLESS OF COURSE THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT, IGNORING THE FACT THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, DEEP, DEEP PROBLEMS WITH OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE, BLACK AND BROWN MEN THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE THAT PROBLEM WITHIN NOW THINK TRUMP HAS A PROBLEM.

IT IS A LOT OF SPINNING PLATES TO KEEP A NARRATIVE STRAIGHT.

OZZIE: I THINK YOU DEAL WITH THIS PUDDING PLATE THAT IS BEFORE YOU AND THIS IS ONE THAT IS TO MOST, THEY CONCEDE THE POLITICAL UNDERTONES.

I WILL NOT TALK FOR CY VANCE AND QUESTION HIS PALOOKA JUDGMENT ON WHETHER HE PERSECUTED THIS BASED ON A CAMPAIGN PAYMENT BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE ISSUE DONALD TRUMP IS FACING.

ALVIN BRAGG IS GIVING HIM EVERY POLITICAL MOTIVATION TO POKE HOLES AT THIS.

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BIGGER PROBLEMS.

THERE ARE OTHER CASES I WOULD ARGUE ARE MUCH STRONGER WITH MUCH SEVERE CONSEQUENCES.

GO AFTER A SIX-YEAR CLAIM THAT THIS IS PAYMENT AND HUSH MONEY, DOING IT NOW I THINK AS A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS BEING ASKED.

SUE: WE DON'’T HAVE CY VANCE AND A PERSON BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CY VANCE SOUND.

OF COURSE THE FORMER MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

>> I WOULD BE MINDFUL OF NOT COMMITTING SOME OTHER CRIMINAL OFFENSE LIKE OBSTRUCTION OF OF A MENTAL ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS INTERFERING WITH OR BY THREAT OR OTHERWISE THE OPERATION OF GOVERNMENT.

I THINK THAT COULD TAKE WHAT PERHAPS WE THINK IS NOT THE STRONGEST CASE.

WHEN YOU ADD A COUNT LIKE THAT, PUT IT IN FRONT OF A JURY AND CHANGE THE JURY'’S MIND ABOUT THE SEVERITY OF THE CASE THEY ARE LOOKING AT.

SUE: LET'’S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CALL TO ACTION THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING.

THE ATTACKS ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

THE FOLKS, THE JUDGES.

I AM BOTH TORN BETWEEN GIVING IT TOO MUCH ATTENTION AND THEN TORN I AM NOT GIVING IT ENOUGH ATTENTION.

AS WE KNOW, JANUARY 6 SEEM TO HAPPEN RIGHT UNDER EVERYONE'’S NOSES AND SOME PEOPLE WERE SHOCKED OF THE SEVERITY OF THE ATTACK.

WHERE ARE WE NOW?

WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING IN TERMS OF THE CALL FOR TRUMP AND OTHERS THAT THEY ARE GIVING FOR PEOPLE TO PROTEST REGARDING THIS INDICTMENT?

SEC.

CABRAL: I THINK IT SHOULD BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY.

WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN IT GOES COMPLETELY UNCHECKED.

BUT I THINK EVERYBODY IS SORT OF MINDFUL OF THAT.

I ALSO THINK TIME HAS PASSED.

I THINK THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE AWARE OF THE LEVEL OF SORT OF GRIPPED AND MORE PEOPLE ARE FED UP WITH THE LEVEL OF CORRUPTION.

I'’M NOT AT ALL SURE YOU ARE GOING TO GET THIS KIND OF RESPONSE HE WAS ABLE TO GET ON JANUARY 6.

I THINK IT WILL BE SOMEWHAT LESS .

PEOPLE ARE MINDFUL THE DOJ PROSECUTED AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY COULD FIND AND ARE STILL SEEKING PEOPLE OUT AND PROSECUTING THEM FOR THE JANUARY 6 INSURRECTION.

IT IS NOT A CONSEQUENCELESS CHOICE PEOPLE WILL MAKE IF THEY DECIDE TO PROTEST VIOLENTLY.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTEST CERTAINLY UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT BUT TO PROTEST VIOLENTLY OR TO CREATE SOME SORT OF A RIOT SITUATION I THINK PEOPLE ARE MINDFUL THOSE PROSECUTIONS WILL FOLLOW.

SUE: YOUR TAKE ON WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE SAYING, REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS TO PEOPLE REGARDING IF THEY ARE UNHAPPY TRUMP HAS BEEN INDICTED?

OZZIE: WORDS HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND WE SAW THAT ON JANUARY 6 AND I TEND TO AGREE.

MOST PEOPLE ARE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PROTEST UP TO A CERTAIN POINT SURE IT DOES NOT CROSS THAT LINE.

YOU'’VE HAD MOST REPUBLICAN LEADERS SAY THAT.

ACTUALLY SAY IT PUBLICLY.

SAYING A PROTEST IS WELCOMED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND TO DO IT TO MAKE SURE NO HARM IS DONE.

OBVIOUSLY PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS A WAY WITH WORDS AND IT WILL BE INTERESTED TO SEE IF HE HAS ISSUED A GAG ORDER TO PREVENT SOMETHING FROM HAPPENING.

SUE: LET'’S TAKE A LISTEN TO NEW YORK CITY MAYOR ERIC ADAMS.

HE HAS A WARNING FOR FOLKS WHO MAY BE COMING TO THE BIG APPLE.

>> WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME RABBLE-ROUSERS THINKING ABOUT COMING TO OUR CITY TOMORROW, OUR MESSAGE IS CLEAR AND SIMPLE.

CONTROL YOURSELVES.

YORK CITY IS OUR HOME, NOT A PLAYGROUND FOR YOUR MISPLACED ANGER.

SUE: DO THINK THAT IS ENOUGH?

WAS THAT STRONG ENOUGH?

SEC.

CABRAL: I'’M NOT SURE.

I DON'’T WANT TO CRITICIZE IT BECAUSE I THINK HE IS TRYING TO BALANCE HIS TONE.

NOT BE TOO AGGRESSIVE BUT ALSO NOT BE TOO RECALCITRANT IN TERMS OF TELLING PEOPLE NOT COME.

I THINK ULTIMATELY IF PEOPLE DO COME AND THEY ACT OUT, I THINK THE CITY WILL LET THE ACTIONS OF THOSE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO KEEP ORDER SORT OF SPEAK FOR THEM.

HE HAS ISSUED THE WARNING.

HE SAID DON'’T DO IT.

NOW REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS HEEDED BUT I THINK HE WAS TRYING TO STRIKE A TONAL BALANCE.

SUE: LET'’S TALK ABOUT THE POLITICS OF THIS.

WE KEEP SAYING UNPRECEDENTED.

THIS GOING TO BE UNPRECEDENTED THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE HAVE SAID THIS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THIS.

BESIDE THE FACT TRUMP IS BEASTLY A FORMER PRESIDENT, HE HAS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.

HE IS ONE OF THE FEW WHO HAS DECLARED ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

AND THIS IS NOT THE END.

THERE MAY BE ANOTHER INDICTMENT IN GEORGIA.

THERE MAY BE AN INDICTMENT REGARDING THE MAR-A-LAGO DOCUMENTS.

HE HAS THE TRIAL COMING UP WITH JEAN CAROL, THE DEFAMATION TRIAL REGARDING THE RAPE CHARGE THAT SHE HAS LEVELED AGAINST HIM.

HOW DO REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES RUN IN THIS CHAOS AND GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT AND GET FUNDRAISING WITHOUT GETTING ALL OF THIS ON THEM?

OZZIE: LIKE WITH ALL THINGS WITH DONALD TRUMP AND YOU IF YOU'’RE RUNNING AGAINST HIM, YOU HAVE THE THREAD THAT LINE.

THERE IS ABOUT A 25 TO 30% OF THE ELECTORATE THAT IS GOING TO BE WITH HIM THE MATTER WHAT.

ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE FACT THIS IS POLITICAL MOTIVATED.

BUT I'’M NOT WITH HIM BECAUSE IT IS A DISTRACTION COULD IF YOU ARE A CANDIDATE, YOU BETTER HAVE AN ANSWER AND YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO THREAD THE LINE.

BE ABLE TO GO AFTER THE ISSUE AND NOT JEOPARDIZE THE BASE.

SUE: WHAT SHOULD BIDEN -- HE IS NOT A CANDIDATE YET WHAT SHOULD CANDIDATE FOR REELECTION JOE BIDEN BE DOING OR SAYING DO YOU THINK I'’M RESPONSE TO THE INDICTMENTS, POSSIBLE PLURAL INDICTMENTS?

SEC.

CABRAL: NOTHING.

SUE: JUST STICK TO HIS KNITTING?

SEC.

CABRAL: THAT IS RIGHT.

THIS IS ABOUT LOCAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'’S OFFICES AND THE DOJ.

HE DOESN'’T HAVE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THE STUFF.

I DON'’T THINK THAT HE WILL BECAUSE I DON'’T THINK HE WANTS IT TO BE POLITICIZED.

SUE: TALK TO ME ABOUT SOME OF THE POLL NUMBERS COMING OUT.

FOLKS ARE SAYING SOME NAMES IN ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

LIZ CHENEY WHO HAD NOT BEEN ON THE LIST IS NOW IN POLL AND SHE IS POPPING UP AT A 10% WHICH IS ABOVE SOME OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY DECLARING -- ASA HUTCHINSON.

HE THREW HIS HAT IN THE RING OVER THE WEEKEND.

HOW MANY REPUBLICANS DO YOU THINK YOU WILL SEE IN THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY?

OZZIE: I THINK THE POLL THAT HAD LIZ CHENEY, I WOULD CALL THAT MAY BE AN OUTLIER.

I CAN SURELY TELL YOU THE REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE FOR A PRIMARY IS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT A LIZ CHENEY TYPE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT.

BUT HER NAME IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE.

THE POLLS TODAY ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE POLLS A YEAR FROM NOW.

YOU'’RE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE BUBBLE UP AS THEY ENTER THE RACE.

THEY WILL GET A POP FROM THAT AND REGISTER ON THESE POLLS AS THEY CONTINUE TO GO ON.

I THINK THE FIELD IS GOING TO NARROW.

WE ALREADY SAW LARRY HOGAN OPT NOT TO RACE.

I THINK THIS IS NOT GOING TO DETER OTHERS FROM JUMPING IN.

WE CAN EXPECT DESANTIS TO COME IN SOMETIME AFTER HIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS OVER IN MAY.

I WOULD SAY VICE PRESIDENT PENCE IS GOING TO JUMP IN.

OTHERS WILL LOOK AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY WELL AS A TRUMP IS WEAK AND THROW THEIR HAT IN THE RING.

I DON'’T THINK IT IS GOING TO BE AS MANY AS THERE WERE IN 16 BUT I DON'’T GET IS GOING TO DETER THOSE WHO HAVE A VIABLE SHOT TO JUMP IN.

SUE: WHAT DO YOU THINK WE ARE GOING TO SEE FOR THE LIST OF INDICTMENTS TOMORROW?

I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME NOT CEOS OF THE SIZE OF DONE A TRUMP SIZE OF DONALD TRUMP'’S EMPIRE BUT SOME PEOPLE TALKING TO ME ABOUT LISTEN, WHEN YOU ACCIDENTALLY COMMIT IRS TAX FRAUD, SOMETIMES THEY ALSO HIT YOU WITH A CHARGE OF MAIL FRAUD OR THAT YOU WITH A CHARGE JUST SO YOU CAN PERHAPS PLEADED DOWN.

SOME PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THE LIST OF INDICTMENTS IS GOING TO BE SOME -- I SAY THAT IN RELATIVE TERM, SMALL THINGS THAT DON'’T ADD UP TO A LOT.

DO YOU THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME BOMBSHELL IN THIS LIST OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A FULLY VETTED ROBUST LIST OF INDICTMENTS?

SEC.

CABRAL: FIRST I HAVE TO WARN YOU YOU MIGHT LOSE ME BECAUSE -- I AM RUNNING VERY LOW ON BATTERY UNFORTUNATELY AND I CANNOT CHARGE IT BUT I WOULD TRY TO ANSWER VERY QUICKLY.

FIRST OF ALL, IT IS 32 CHARGES.

GRAND JURY'’S ARE NOT CALLED FOR MISDEMEANORS.

THEY ARE CALLED FOR FELONIES.

THE FACT IT IS 32 CHARGES EVEN IF YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WIRE FRAUD OR MAIL FRAUD OFTEN ACCOMPANY FEDERAL CHARGES BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE THE MAIL OR YOU USE THE TELEPHONE OR WHAT IT MIGHT BE TO EFFECTUATE THE CRIME, THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY LONG LIST.

WHAT I'’VE BEEN THINKING IS IN THE COURSE OF THIS BETWEEN THIS INVESTIGATION AND THE WEISSELBERG INVESTIGATION, IT IS VERY LIKELY THEY DISCOVERED ADDITIONAL CRIMINALITY AND THAT IS GOING TO BE REFLECTED IN THOSE INDICTMENTS.

PEOPLE WERE SAYING THIS IS JUST A MISDEMEANOR TRUMPED UP TO BE A FELONY NOTE UNATTENDED.

YOU DON'’T GET 32 CHARGES OUT OF A GRAND JURY WHEN THERE IS NOT SOMETHING FELONIOUS HIND THOSE CHARGES.

SUE: WHAT YOU THINK HAS TO HAPPEN TO BLAKE -- TO BREAK THE FEVER?

OZZIE: I THINK THE ONUS IS ON ALVIN BRAGG THAT HE BETTER HAVE SOMETHING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE LOOKED AT AND OPTED NOT TO PERSECUTED.

IF ALVIN BRAGG HAS SOMETHING, IT BETTER BE A BUTTONED UP AND COMING IN HOT INSECURE BECAUSE IF THIS IS SOMETHING WHITTLE DOWN OR DONALD TRUMP IS ABLE TO DEFEAT IT IS GOING TO BACKFIRE ON THEM.

WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE A BREAK THROUGH, TRUMP IS A PHENOMENON SHOULD HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAP INTO SOME ANGER THE GENERAL ELECTORATE ON THAT REPUBLICAN SIDE HAS BEEN FESTERING FOR MANY YEARS.

THAT IS STARTING TO SUBSIDE.

YOU'’RE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THE SUPPORT GO TO DESANTIS AS A TRUMP LIKE CANDIDATE SO TO SPEAK.

I'’M NOT SURE IF THAT IS EVER GOING TO BREAK AWAY FOR WE FROM DONALD TRUMP.

IF DONALD TRUMP GOES AWAY MAYBE TRUMPISM CONTINUES PAIRED 25% OF THE ELECTOR ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IS HOLDING ONTO.

SUE: WESTWARDS?

-- LAST WORDS?

SEC.

CABRAL: IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS TOMORROW AND GOING FORWARD.

HE IS GOING TO TRY TO TURN INTO A CIRCUS.

I HOPE THE JUDGE ISSUES A GAG ORDER WHICH HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FOLLOW BUT I STILL HOPE THE JUDGE ISSUES A GAG ORDER AND TRIES TO MAINTAIN SOME ORDER AND DECORUM AROUND THIS.

SUE: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING.

I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOUR EXPERTISE.

THANKS DEAR BATTERY, ANDREA.

NEXT UP, THE BRUINS HAVE ALREADY MADE HISTORY IN THE RUN-UP TO THE STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS LATER THIS MONTH.

THE B'’S HAVE ALREADY QUALIFIED FOR THE POSTSEASON AND THEY BECAME THE FOURTH EVER TEAM TO SCORE 60 REGULAR SEASON WINS.

AFTER COMING OUT ON TOP IN SHOOTOUT AGAINST THE ST. LOUIS BLUES.

THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THEIR DIVISION, THE BRUINS HAVE A FEW DAYS REST BEFORE THEY LOOK TO CONTINUE THEIR WINNING STREAK ON THURSDAY.

ARE THE BRUINS THE NEW PRIDE AND JOY OF NEW ENGLAND SPORTS AND WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON?

I'’M JOINED BY FORMER NHL PLAYER AND STANLEY CUP CHAMPION SHAWN MCEACHERN WHO IS NOW THE HEAD COACH FOR THE SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY AND HOCKEY TEAM AND STEVE CONROY , A SPORTS REPORTER FOR THE BOSTON HERALD.

STEVE, LET'’S JUMP IN HERE.

HOW GOOD ARE THESE BRUINS?

STEVE: THEY'’RE ONE OF THE BEST REGULAR SEASON TEAMS OF ALL TIME AS YOU LAID IT OUT IN YOUR OPENING.

JUST ONE OF FOUR TEAMS TO HIT THE 60 WINS.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE JUDGED ON WHETHER THEY WIN A STANLEY CUP.

IT IS A MARATHON.

IT IS TWO MONTHS OF BRUTAL COMPETITION.

GUYS GET HURT.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT PRIZE TO WIN IN ALL OF SPORTS.

SUE: AS SOMEONE WHO CAME UP WATCHING BOBBY OR AND DEREK SANDERSON, I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT EASTER WHEN MY MOM ASKED ME ONCE WHAT I WANTED THE EASTER BUNNY TO BRING ME AND I WANTED AN AUTOGRAPH DEREK SANDERSON POSTER WHICH I AMAZINGLY GOT FROM THE EASTER BUNNY.

I LOVE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ARE THE BRUINS THE NEW HOT TEAM WHEN THE BRUINS HAVE BEEN A HOT TEAM ON AND OFF FOR A LONG TIME ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE PLAYING WITH THEM IN THE 1990'’S.

WHAT MAKES THIS TEAM DIFFERENT FROM OTHER BRUINS TEAMS?

SHAWN: IT SEEMS TO ME BY THE NUMBERS THERE MAY BE THE BEST BRUINS TEAM WE HAVE HAD.

LOOK AT DAVID PASTRNAK WITH 56 GOALS SHOULD HE IS A CHANCE TO PUT UP 60 GOALS.

I DON'’T KNOW WHO THE LAST BRUIN TO DO THAT WAS.

HE MIGHT BE ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE NHL RIGHT NOW.

YOU HAVE PATRICE BERGERON WHO HAS BEEN WITH THE TEAM FOREVER SCORING 27 GOALS AT 37 YEARS OLD.

DON SWEENEY HAS HIT IT ON EVERY PLAYER HE HAS PICKED UP.

EVERYBODY IS PLAYING AT THE TOP OF THE GAME FOR THE BRUINS.

YOU GET TO THE PLAYOFFS, JUST ONE OF THE PLAYOFFS TEAMS AND YOU HAVE TO WRAP IT UP.

YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT INJURIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SUE: YOU DON'’T WANT THE SUCCESS OF THE RECORD TO BE THE FOOTNOTE YOU DID NOT WIN THAT SEASON AS STEVE I THINK POINTED UP TO IS THERE A SECRET SAUCE HERE OR IS THIS JUST A PERFECT TELLING OF ALL THESE GREAT PLAYERS THAT HAPPEN TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT BRUINS ARE DOING NOW THAT WILL CARRY ON INTO THE FUTURE?

STEVE: THIS IS KIND OF A ONE-SHOT DEAL FOR THEM BECAUSE WE DON'’T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH PATRICE BERGERON AND DAVID KREJCI AFTER THIS YEAR.

THEY COULD RETIRE.

I WOULD NOT SAY THE BRUINS WOULD HAVE TO REBUILD AFTER THAT BUT THEY WOULD TAKE A STEP BACK.

THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE SEASON SO FAR.

A MAGICAL ONE AS JIM MONTGOMERY SAID A COUPLE DAYS AGO AFTER THEY BEAT PITTSBURGH.

THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, I LOOK AT THE START OF THE SEASON THIS YEAR.

THEY WERE WITHOUT BRAD MARCHAND.

THEY WERE WITHOUT CHARLIE MCAVOY.

THEY WERE WITHOUT MATT GRZELCYK.

IN TRAINING CAMP THEY KNEW THEY HAD TO SHOW UP TO BE READY TO GO IN OCTOBER AND THEY HAD THE WORK ETHIC.

AS THEY GOT THE PLAYERS BACK, IT JUST ROLLED AND ROLLED AND ROLLED.

THERE ARE SOME SCHEDULE LOSSES IN AN 82 SEASON BUT NOT FOR THIS TEAM.

I THINK THEY ARE 10 AND THREE ON SECOND HALF OF BACK-TO-BACK SPEAR THEY REFUSED TO LOSE ON MOST NIGHTS.

SUE: WE ARE WATCHING BASEBALL GO THROUGH SOME I WOULD NOT SAY DRAMATIC CHANGES BUT SOME UPDATES IF YOU WILL IN HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED WITH THE PITCH CLOCK AND THE TIME THE BETTER HAS TO GET IN AND THE CRAZY LIGHT SHOWS WHEN SOMEONE HITS A HOMERUN.

HOCKEY HAS BEEN THROUGH SOME OF THAT.

I DO REMEMBER THE ELECTRIFIED PUCK WE COULD WATCH AT SOME POINT THAT DISTRACTED THE HECK OUT OF ME.

IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME.

WHAT IS HOCKEY DOING TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN ITS STANDING AND GROW AS A SPORT OVER THE YEARS ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU WERE PLAYING IN THE 1990'’S?

SHAWN: NUMBER ONE THERE ARE PLAYERS COMING FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD NOW.

WHEN I WAS A KID EVERYBODY PLAYED HOCKEY IN BOSTON, MINNESOTA AND MICHIGAN.

NOW SOME OF THE TOP PLAYERS IN THE WORLD ARE COMING FROM FLORIDA, ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA.

I THINK ALSO THE NHL HAS MAYBE TAKEN MORE OF THE VIOLENCE OUT OF THE GAME.

I THINK A LOT OF FANS ENJOYED IT BACK IN THE DAY BUT NO THEY ALLOW THE SKILLED PLAYERS TO BE SKILLFUL.

THEY ALLOW THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD TO REALLY SHOW WHAT THEY CAN DO.

THE PRODUCT HAS BEEN GREAT.

YOU LOOK LIKE A -- YOU LOOK AT A GUY LIKE MCDAVID OUT OF EDMONTON.

HE IS AN AWFUL LOT OF FUN TO WATCH.

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE DISAPPOINTED THEY DON'’T SEE THE VIOLENCE THERE WAS IN THE 1990'’S BUT I THINK IT IS A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT FOR TV.

SUE: I HAVE TO SAY I ONCE SAW WHEN GRETZKY PLAY IN A LATE PLAYING THE BRUINS.

I THINK IT WAS UNDER THE 1980'’S AND IT WAS THE LONGEST FIGHT GAME THUS FAR IN THE HISTORY OF THE NHL AND I WAS LIKE, WHY AM I HERE WATCHING THIS?

WAYNE IS ON BOARD WITH THE BRUINS.

WAYNE IS HOPING THE BRUINS GO ALL THE WAY WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN BESIDES THE NO INJURIES, KEEPING THEIR HEAD IN THE GAME, KEEPING THE ENERGY GOING?

WHAT ARE THE OBSTACLES AHEAD OF THEM BESIDES THOSE THAT ARE USUALLY BUILT IN?

STEVE: THEY HAVE TO GET THE LEVEL OF GOALTENDING THEY HAVE BEEN GETTING.

I'’M ASSUMING HE IS GOING TO RUN WITH IT FOR AS LONG AS THEY CAN PAIR THEY HAVE RELIED ON HIM MORE THAN SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO ADMIT BECAUSE THEY GIVE UP SOME ODD MAN RUSHES.

THEY PUSHED THE PLAY A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT PREVIOUS TEAMS DID UNDER BRUCE CASSIDY AND UNDER JULIAN.

HE HAS GOT TO BE SHARP.

HE HAS BEEN SHARP ALL YEAR.

HE SEES A LOT OF HIGH DANGER CHANCES FOR A TEAM THAT IS AS DOMINANT AS THE BRUINS ARE.

THEY'’RE NOT QUITE THE 1980'’S EDMONTON OILERS BUT THEY GIVE UP SOME CHANCES.

HE HAS BEEN THERE AND SO HAS JEREMY SWAYMAN TO BAIL THEM OUT.

SUE: WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE OBSTACLES IN THE PATH MOVING FORWARD?

SHAWN: A BIG THING WHEN YOU GET TO THE PLAYOFFS IS, IS THE OFFICIATING GOING TO BE THE SAME AS IN THE REGULAR SEASON?

SOMETIMES THEY ALLOW MORE HOOKING, HOLDING.

HOPEFULLY THEY KEEP THE SAME LEVEL OF OFFICIATING.

YOU ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE SECRET SAUCE TO THE TEAM AND I THINK JIM MCGOVERN HAS DONE AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB WITH THIS TEAM.

I THINK WHEN YOU GO FROM CLAUDE JULIEN TO BRUCE CASSIDY, TWO GUYS, DISCIPLINED GUYS.

VERY HONEST WITH THE MEDIA.

THE SIZE PLAYERS QUITE A BIT MORE THAN JIM WEBB.

JIM BRINGS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR ALLOWING HIS DEFENSEMAN TO PLAYER LET MORE OFFENSE.

STEVE SAYS THEY GIVE UP A LOT OF CHANCES AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

YOU PLAY WITH A TEAM LIKE THIS THAT CREATES A LOT OF OFFENSE, YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE ON THE OTHER TEAM, IF YOU GIVE UP CHANCES, YOU'’RE GOING TO GET SCORED ON.

THE BRUINS ARE SO CONFIDENT THEY'’RE WILLING TO GIVE UP A FEW CHANCES BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'’RE GOING TO PUT THEIRS IN THE NET.

I HAVE ENJOYED WATCHING THIS TEAM MORE THAN ANY TEAM I'’VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME.

SUE: THAT IS KIND OF HOW I PLAY WORDLE.

I KNOW I AM GOING TO GET IN THE END.

YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY?

SHAWN: I THINK THEY WILL IF THEY STAY HEALTHY.

YOU HAVE BERGERON AND KREJCI.

BIG PLAYERS FOR THEM.

BOTH IN THEIR LATE 30'’S.

I KNOW HOW I FELT IN MY LATE 30'’S I GIVE THEM ALL THE CREDIT IN THE WORLD TRIP SUE: ALL ABOUT YOU, STEVE?

STEVE: GOING TO THE HEAD, I WOULD BET ON THE BRUINS PAIR THAT IS WHAT I DON'’T BET HOCKEY BECAUSE IT IS A CRAPSHOOT.

SUE: IT SURE IS.

NOW YOU HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO BET FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

STEVE: I HAVE SEEN A COUPLE COMMERCIALS.

SUE: JUST A COUPLE.

I KNOW WERE YOU TWO WILL BE AS THE GAMES ARE BEING PLAYED.

I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH JOINING ME.

THANKS SO MUCH AND GO BRUINS.

SHAWN: THANK YOU.

SUE: THAT IS IT FOR TONIGHT BECOME BACK TOMORROW.

WE'’LL CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION SURROUNDING THE LATEST NEWS ON THE CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP AND ITS APPLICATIONS FOR THE COUNTRY.

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GOOD NIGHT.

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