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>> IT'S OPENING DAY NO.

37 FOR "DONNYBROOK".

JUST LIKE THE .. WE ARE WINNERS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

HEY, WE HAVE GOT A S..

DIFFERENT STARTING LINEUP THIS EVENING.

BEGINNING WITH.. RIVERFRONT TIMES AND SISTER PUBLICATIONS.

ONE OF O.. MCCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

JACOB FROM THE ST. LOUIS BUSINESS JOURNAL AND JOE HOLLEMAN ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

TODAY ..

IT'S A BIG DEAL IN ST. LOUIS.

WE TURN OUT IN THE COLD, THE RAIN.

A FEW YEAR.. SOLD OUT GAME, AND EVERYBODY IS EXCITED UNTIL A WEEK FROM NOW, AND WE WILL SEE HOW IT GOES FROM THERE.

CLAMORING THIS SHOULD BE A HOLIDAY IN THE ST. LOUIS AREA, LIKE WE WON THE WORLD SERIES, BUT IT'S OPENING DAY.

WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?

>> I'M ALL FOR HOLIDAYS.

ANY GOVERNMENT ENTITY OR BUSINESS OUT THERE THAT WANT.. GIVE THE EMPLOYEES A HOLIDAY, I SAY GO FOR IT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN GO TO THE GAME, STAY AND WATCH THE GAME, BUT I HAVE YET TO FIND A HOLIDAY THAT I WILL OPPOSE.

>> I USE TO WRITE THAT SUMMER SOLSTICE SHOULD BE A HOLIDAY, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD GO TO THE MOUNDS AT DAWN.

I THOUGHT IT WAS SPECTACULAR.

>> I'M GOING TO TAKE THE VERY POPULAR POSITION HERE OF BEING AGAINST HOLIDAYS.

FIRST OF ALL, I FEEL LIKE THE CARDINALS NEED TO ACTUALLY WIN BEFORE ANYBODY IN THIS TOWN SHOULD GET A HOLIDAY.

FIRST OF ALL, AS PARENTS OF A YOUNG CHILD, IF THE SCHOOLS START TAKING OFF, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH OF A HOLIDAY FOR A BUNCH OF US.

I'M HOPING WE CAN STAY AT OUR DESKS AND PRETEND WE ARE WORKING.

>..

THINK, USUALLY, IF IT'S GOING TO BE UNIFORM.

I'M WITH SARAH, BUT THE TEAM HAS GOT TO WIN.

BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE, I SAW ON TWITTER AND SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY WANTED TO SHOW JOE GETTING BOOED OFF THE FIELD DURING THE INTRODUCTION.

>> I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A DAY OFF TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

DO W..

I THROW IN SUMMER SOLSTICE, FLAG DAY AND THE FEAST OF ST. LOUIS.

MORE HOLIDAYS IN GOOD WEATHER AND LESS IN BAD WEATHER.

>> IT WILL PROBABLY HELP THE CITY GROW.

YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE HOLIDAYS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>>..

BASEBALL, BUT THEY LIKE HOLIDAYS.

>&g.. DESTINATION FOR LAZY PEOPLE.

>> I THOUGHT WE ALREADY WERE.

>> IT DID REMIND ME OF SOMETHING BECAUSE I DID HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

BECAUS.. EDUCATIONAL THING, SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BE IN, YOU KNOW, DURING THE ECLIPSE, THE LAST 67 YEARS AGO, IT WAS IN THE SUMMERTIME.

THERE WAS A DEBATE LIKE WHAT DO WE DO?

SHOULD SCHOOL BE OUT?

BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON THAT.

IT'S GOING TO BE A G..

OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN SCHOOL AND HAVE THE CORRECT GLASSES AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S..

GOING EITHER WAY.

FOR THE RECORD, I'M TAKING OFF ON ECLIPSE DAY, SO THAT'S MY HOLIDAY.

>.. >> IN ALL SINCERITY, BE SAFE, BECAUSE IT CAN BE DANGEROUS.

THIS WEEKEND, ST. LOUIS IS GROUND ZERO.

WE HAVE GOT THE BATTLE HAWKS.

WE HAVE GOT THE SOCCER TEAM.

AND WE HAVE GOT THE CARDINALS.

ISN'T A SHAMEFUL?

>> THERE'S NO WAY.

>> AND UNIVERSITY WOMEN ARE PLAYING IN THE NIT FINAL.

IF THERE WAS NOT A CONCERT AT THE ARENA, THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER SPORTING EVENT IN ST. LOUIS ON SATURDAY.

ESTIMATES SAY 100,000 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THIS WEEKEND, AND I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE SAID IT'S JUST GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SO TERRIBLE DOWNTOWN.

IT'S AWFUL DOWNTOWN, BUT YET 100,000 PEOPLE ARE COMING DOWN, AND HOPEFULLY ALL HAVE A GOOD TIME.

AND JACOB, YOU ARE HAPPY ABOUT ALL OF THIS, AREN'T YOU?

>> I FEEL LIKE WHEN I HAVE BEEN SOMEWHERE THAT IS VIBRANT, IT'S SORT OF THE REVERSE.

THESE THINGS HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY, AND RESIDENTS ARE UPSET BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE INTERPRETING THEIR DAILY LIVES IN FRONT OF THE COFFEE SHOPS, LOTS OF PEOPLE ON THE SIDEWALK.

DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS HAS A LONG WAY TO GO FOR THAT.

I MEAN, IT NEEDS MAJOR MORE DENSITY IN TERMS OF RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES A NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT THE SUBURBANITES COMING OFF IN THE ONE OFF EVENTS.

THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN IS BOOSTING UP RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE OFFICE IS A BIG PROBLEM.

THEY REALLY -- THAT IS IN THE WORKS, BUT THEY REALLY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH THAT.

>> IT'S INTERESTING, THOUGH.

YOU WRITE ABOUT YOU CAN'T RELY ON THE SUBURBANITES COMING IN.

BUT I KNOW RESTAURANTS DOWNTOWN DOING GANG BUSTERS.

THERE'S A COUPLE BIG RESTAURANTS THAT OPENED IN THE SHADOW OF BUSCH STADIUM.

AND WE WILL GO DOWN THERE, AND IT'S A NIGHT THE CARDINALS AREN'T PLAYING, AND THEY HAD A 50-MINUTE WAIT.

THERE'S MORE VIBRANCY DOWNTOWN THAN WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE IT CREDIT FOR.

IT CAN BE HIT OR MISS.

IT'S GREAT IF WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN FOR THE GAMES, AND GETS THE FEELING WHERE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T AS WILLING TING DOWNTOWN AREN'T GOING TO GET THE CHANCE AND FEEL SAFER.

>> I HOPE THEY DO, SARAH.

I REMEMBER WHEN THE POPE CAME, AND WE RAN SO MANY STORIES HOW CROWDED DOWNTOWN WAS GOING TO BE AND PEOPLE WOULD BE STOPPING THEIR CARS ON 40, 64 AND WALKING IN.

THEY TOLD EMPLOYEES DON'T COME IN, AND TURNED OUT NOBODY WAS DOWNTOWN.

I HO..

DIFFERENT, THAT EVERYBODY IS DOWN THERE.

>> I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE 100,000 PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.

I THINK THE THING ALWAYS COMES BACK THAT IT'S EASY, AND I CAN PREFACE THIS BY SAYING I'M A CITY RESIDENT.

JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY, IT'S NOT A CRIME TO COME IN FOR A BASEBALL GAME AND GO HOME.

SO THIS .. COUNTY PEOPLE WOULD DO THIS.

NO, THE COUNTY PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT THEY DO, WHICH IS BUY TICKETS, COME IN, EAT AT RESTAURANTS, GO TO THE GAME.

IF THEY GO STRAIGHT HOME, THEY GO STRAIGHT HOME.

IF THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T.

I LIVE IN THE CITY AND I GO STRAIGHT HOME AFTER A GAME TO A QUIET RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR ME TO SPEND X NUMBER OF HOURS ANYWHERE.

>>..

ILLUSTRATES THE PROBLEM OF RELYING ON THE GIANT EVENTS.

I WENT TO THE FIRST SDSC GAME.

20, 30 MINUTES AFTER THE GAME, THE UNION STATION, SOCCER BAR, THERE'S PEOPLE INSIDE, AND THE STREET'S DEAD.

>> YOUR MISCONCEPTION IS I'M RELYING ON IT AS BEING SOMETHING AMAZING OTHER THAN JUST BY COINCIDENCE THREE SPORTING EVENTS HAPPEN DOWNTOWN, AND DOWNTOWN WILL BE A COOL PLACE TO BE.

NOW, IF .. IS MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE DOWNTOWN, OKAY, LET'S OPEN UP ALL THE THINGS THE CITY NEEDS TO DO TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE DOWNTOWN.

ALL I'M .. ONE WEEKEND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ST. LOUIS.

IT WILL BE VIBRANT, AND IT WILL BE ALIVE, AND THAT'S BETTER THAN NOT.

I KNOW PEOPLE WHO OWN RESTAURANTS.

THEY LIKE PE.. AT THE RESTAURANTS.

I THINK THE COUNTY GETS AN UNFAIR SHAKE BECAUSE THEY ALLOW SOMEBODY TO LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY.

THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.

I'M GLAD THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOWN HERE.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY GET AN UNFAIR SHAKE.

WHERE SOME CITY DWELLERS GET UPSET IS YOU WILL CONSTANTLY SEE PEOPLE COMMENTING IT'S SO DANGEROUS, I NEVER GO DOWN THERE.

AND THEY SAY I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD GO TO CITY SC.

>> MY KIDS DAY CARE IS ONE BLOCK FROM THERE, NEVER HAD A PROBLEM.

JUST GIVE IT A TRY.

>> I THINK COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE AS CRITICAL OF THE CITY AS CITY RESIDENTS ARE OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY.

SO YOU ARE.. >> I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

I'M SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY GIVE IT A CHANCE.

THERE ARE SOME THAT DON'T.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AN..

ENTIRE LIFE, I AGREE WITH JOE, THERE'S THIS WE ARE NOT DOING OUR PART KIND OF THING.

COME ON NOW.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

CITY DWELLER, WHERE ARE YOU GOING AFTER THE SHOW TONIGHT?

>> I'M GOING TO THE COUNTY.

I'M GOING TO THE COUNTY.

THE GREAT STATE OF KIRKWOOD.

>> WE GOT A NEW MAYOR.

IT'S NOT ME, BY THE WAY.

HEY, THEY HAVE GOT A LOT OF NEW SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE ST. LOUIS AREA.

FRANCIS HOWELL SCHOOL DISTRICT, A LOT OF NATIONAL NEWS WAS MADE BY DECISIONS THE SCHOOL BOARD MADE, AND SOME RIGHT WING CANDIDATES WERE DEFEATED.

SARAH, IS THIS A SIGNAL THAT THINGS ARE CHANGING AS FAR AS ATTITUDES, OR IS IT JUST LIKE A ONE OFF AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AT THE GAMES THIS WEEKEND?

>> IT'S HARD TO READ TOO MUCH INTO A SUPER LOW TURN-OUT ELECTION, WHICH THIS WAS.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF MOTIVATION BY PARENTS AND PEOPLE INVESTED IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO SAY HEY, THIS HAS GONE ON A BIT TOO FAR.

IN THE FRANCIS HOWELL SCHOOL DISTRICT THE PREVIOUS SCHOOL BOARD SAID THEY STAND AGAINST RACISM AND THE SCHOOL BOARD CAME IN TO REFUTE THAT.

AND WHAT?

YOU ARE NOW AGAINST BEING RACIST?

PEOPLE WEREN'T HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

I THINK YOU ARE SEEING A BACKLASH ABOUT THAT.

THERE WERE 13 CANDIDATES ENDORSED BY THE ARCH RIGHT MEDIA TALKER, AND ALL 13 WENT DOWN TO DEFEAT.

.. COINCIDENCE.

>>..

IF IT HELPS OUR FRIEND RAY HARTMANN.

>> LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.

I WOULD BE READING THE TEA LEAVES IN A POSITIVE WAY IF I WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

BE IT STATEWIDE OR OUR AREA AROUND HERE, I THINK IT MEANS SOMETHING.

>&g.. RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

>> YES.

&g.. ELECTION.

YOU ..

ANYTHING INTO THIS?

>> WHEN YOU ARE VOTING ON A SCHOOL BOARD THESE ANXIETIES AND PROBLEMS FROM THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WHERE THE GROCERY BILL IS 40 OR 50% HIGHER, IT IS GOING TO SHOW UP IN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

I'M .. EFFECT WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING.

I DON'.. >> I AGREE WITH JACOB.

THERE'S A UNIQUE SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT COME INTO PLAY WITH SCHOOL BOARDS THAT DON'T COME ANYWHERE ELSE.

IT'S OUR CHILDREN.

IT'S KIND OF GOT THAT VERY DIRECT IMPACT ON ALL THE PARENTS.

ON..

IF YOU WILL, NOT AS DRASTIC, BUT IN THE RICHLAND HEIGHT DISTRICT, SOME PAINTED AS MORE FAR LEFT CANDIDATES, INCUMBENTS ALSO LOST THEIR SEATS.

WHAT I S..

TOGETHER, IF YOU WANT TO READ ANY TEA LEAVE OUT OF IT, IT SEEMED TO ME THEY WERE SAYING HOW ABOUT WE STOP ALL THE VIRTUE SIGNALING MAYBE AND JUST GET DOWN TO TEACHING OUR KIDS AND BRING IT IN TO WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

I THINK IF THERE'S SOMETHING THERE, I THINK WE SEE THE DIFFERENCE, AS JACOB POINTED OUT, THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS IS A SCHOOL BOARD, LET'S EDUCATE OUR KIDS.

LET'S STOP ALL THE CONFLICT AND ALL THIS DRAMA AND GET BACK TO JOB 1, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SEE OUT OF THIS.

>> I THINK IT HAPPENED IN CLAYTON.

TH.. ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAVING A SECRET REAL ESTATE DEAL TO BUY CLARA AND A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE, PAM LUHRMAN WAS THE BIG VOTE GETTER AND THE INCUMBENT, JASON WILSON, LOST.

I THINK PEOPLE SAY -- LET'S GET BACK TO JUST THE SCHOOLS AND SUPPORTING THE TEACHERS AND THE STAFF AND KEEP THE DISTRICT LEVEL.

>> IT'S SO INTERESTING TO HEAR ABOUT A WRITE IN CANDIDATE.

IT ALSO HAPPENED IN MAPLE WOOD.

AND THAT'S ONE YOU COVERED.

HOW DID YOU READ THAT THERE?

>> FIRST OF ALL, THE MAYOR WHO WON, THE PERSON WHO WON THERE HAD BEEN MAYOR BEFORE, LOST TO THE PERSON WHO HE DEFEATED YESTERDAY.

HE W..

THINK THERE WAS A CASE OF THERE WAS JUST A DISSATISFACTION SINCE THE VOTE TURNOUT WAS JUST ABOUT THE SAME.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS.

I WAS THINKING WAS THERE A BIG TURNOUT FOR IT?

SO THE PERSON THAT THEY -- BARRY GREEN BURG, WHO THREE YEARS AGO WAS THE MAYOR, WAS DEFEATED BY KNAPPER.

..

POLLED HER.

I THINK IT CAM.. PEOPLE OF MAPLE WOOD WERE DISSATISFIED WITH THE MAYOR'S PERFORMANCE.

SHE DIDN.. PRECINCT.

LOOKING FOR PO.. RESISTANCE OR WHATEVER, THERE WAS JUST A GENERAL DISSATISFACTION, IT SEEMED, AND PEOPLE WENT TO THE POLLS AND WROTE IN.

THAT.. GETTING PEOPLE TO WRITE IN A NAME.

BUTTON.

CLEARL.. AND IN CLAYTON HAD STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT WE DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING AND EXPRESSED THEMSELVES AT THE POLLS.

NO ONE SHOULD FORGET SARAH'S MENTIONING OF HOW RIDICULOUSLY LOW THE TURNOUT IS IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

I .. EVERY ELECTION IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY SEEMS TO BE THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY JUST DON'T CARE.

>> ANOTHER INT.. ABOUT WRITE-INS THAT I DIDN'T REALIZE WAS THE ELECTION BOARD SAID IF IT'S CLEAR WHO YOU WERE TRYING TO WRITE IN, IN THIS CASE IT WAS PACIFI PAM LISK LAR LARIMAN.

>> I GOT 28 FOUR YEARS AGO.

I SQUEEZED MY NAME ON THAT LINE A LOT OF TIMES.

>> INCUMBENTS BETTER WATCH OUT.

>> THAT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO.

ALL RIGHT.

PRIME PIECE OF REAL ESTATE.

IT'S BEEN CLEARED.

THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD A HOTEL.

SUDDENLY IT'S GOING NOWHERE AND HERE WE ARE A WEEK LATER, HAVING A NICE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

AND BILL, YOU ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE HOTEL.

>> THE COMPROMISE WAS IN TWO AREAS.

.. BE UNION FRIENDLY, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA, AND I THINK A HOTEL CAN EETIONLY LIVE WITH UNION EMPLOYEES EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE MORE AND CHARGE A LITTLE MORE FOR THE ROOM.

BUT THE ..

COMPROMISE WAS THAT THE HOTEL IS GOING TO TRY TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE UNHOUSED AS THE SAYING GOES, AND I JUST THINK TO MYSELF THAT THAT WON'T WORK.

I MEAN, A HOTEL AND A HOMELESS SHELTER COEXISTING, I DON'T THINK THAT THE HOTEL PATRO.. FINE PEOPLE AS THEY MIGHT BE, IT'S HARD TO SPEAK AGAINST HOMELESS CHILDREN.

I DON'T THINK MANY HOTEL PATRONS WOULD LIKE THE IDEA OF SHARING THE HOTEL WITH HOMELESS SHELTER AND HAVING HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING IN THE ROOM NEXT TO YOU.

>> I ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MONITOR THAT.

HOW DO YOU -- IS SOMEONE.. TO SHOW IT'S THIS MANY FAMILIES ARE IN AT THIS TIME?

AND THE OTHER SORT OF A AMBIGUOUS COMPROMISE DEAL WAS WE ARE GOING TO PAY THE EMPLOYEES KIND OF HIGH.

THERE WA..

THIS WAS TO PACIFY THE PROGRESSIVE PART OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN WHO INITIALLY VOTED DOWN THESE INCENTIVES.

YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS WITH THEIR VOTERS.

>> ARE YOU READY TO GO?

>> EVERY TIME I HEAR EASTBOUND NIECER SCWIEW SCROOGE SHOW UP AT THE TABLE.

>&g.. CHRISTMAS CAROL, EBENEZER CHANGES FROM BEING A SOUND BUSINESSMAN.

>&g.. READ THE STORY IN THE PAPER, ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS SUGGESTED.

BUT HE HAD SUGGESTED TO THEM, OKAY, WITH THIS TAX BREAK BEING MORE PALATABLE, IF I AGREED TO HOUSE ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS' CHILDREN WHO ARE HOMELESS DURING PARTICULARLY COLD TIMES OF WEATHER, HE HAD HEARD SOME TESTIMONY THAT APPARENTLY TOUCHED HIS HEART, AND HE SAID IF IT'S FREEZING OUTSIDE TO GIVE THE TEMPORARY SETTLER FOR THE FAMILIES AND STEPPED UP AND VOLUNTEERED HIMSELF.

AND I SAID THAT'S LOVELY.

AS MUCH AS ALL OF US HERE AT THE TABLE THINK WE MAY NEED TO KNOW THE HOTEL BUSINESS AND PROTECT THE HOTEL FROM THE HOMELESS CHILDREN RUNNING RAMPANT, IF HE STEPS UP AND SAYS HE CAN DO THIS.

>> HOW DO YOU EVICT THESE HOMELESS CHILDREN ONCE YOU BRING THEM IN?

IT'S VERY COLD OUT AND BRING EVERYBODY IN.

THAT'S A FINE IDEA.

BUT THE WEATHER WARMS UP A LITTLE BIT, AND THESE KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES STILL DON'T HAVE HOUSING.

DO.. HOTEL?

>..

DESPERATE.

>.. HAVE AN ANSWER.

>> BECAUSE THE POINT COMES IN, YOU LET THEM IN DURING COLD WEATHER, AND PEOPLE DON'T LOOK TO GO TO ST. LOUIS A LOT IN VERY COLD WEATHER, BUT AS IT GETS WARMER, DO YOU ASK THEM TO LEAVE?

HOW MANY ROOMS WILL BE THERE?

I THINK IT'S A LOT OF IDEAS THAT I HEAR PEOPLE GO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

I AGREE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA.

NOW HOW WILL YOU MAKE IT WORK?

THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS MISSING.

>> STATISTICS ON FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, IT'S A DIFFERENT POPULATION THAN THE UNHOUSED POPULATION IN ST. LOUIS.

MANY TIMES Y..

MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, DEALING WITH ADDICTION ISSUES.

FOR FAMILIES IT'S OFTEN MORE OF A TEMPORARY PROBLEM.

THEY ARE FINDING A FAMILY MEMBER THAT THEY CAN GO SHACK UP WITH, AND AGAIN, YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE STUCK THAT HOTEL ROOM WITH LITTLE KIDS RUNNING AROUND.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PROGRAM THAT DEALS WITH HELPING FAMILIES WITH LITTLE KIDS THAT NEED HOUSING.

I'M NOT SURE THAT A BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS GOING TO WORK.

>> FAIR POINT, BUT I APPRECIATE THE HOTEL MAGNET FOR STEPPING UP WITH THINGS TO OFFER.

>> I GUESS ONCE THE CONTRACT IS SIGNED, HE HAS TO DO IT.

I'M NOT HOLDING MY BREATH ON THAT ACTUALLY BECOMING PART OF THE PLAN.

>> THE THING THAT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THIS.

WE HEARD FROM MEGAN GREEN, AND NO MORE OF THIS, NO MORE OF THESE HANDOUTS FROM PEOPLE, THESE CORPORATIONS.

THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH?

THE AMOUNT ISN'T REDUCED.

IT'S JUST TAKE IT.

>> INTERESTING THE AMOUNT THE TAX BREAK WASN'T REDUCED AND MEGAN GREEN COMES TO HER CONSTITUENTS AND SAYS I GOT CONCESSIONS.

ARE ..

ENOUGH?

>> ALL O..

THE THEORY BEHIND THE UNHOUSED BILL OF RIGHTS WAS A GRAND THEORY UNTIL PEOPLE COULD PEE AND POOP ON THE STREET.

THE REALITY IS NOT SO GOOD.

>> THE REALITY IS THEY DEMOLISHED A BUILDING AND HAVE A VACANT LOT.

SO NOW IT'S JUST GOING TO SIT THERE?

>> THE POINT BEING YOU C.. UP WITH ALL THE GRAND SOUNDING IDEAS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PROGRESSIVE MINDSET IS GOING TO RUN SMACK DAB INTO REALITY, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS, AND THE BUILDER SAYS SEE YA.

THEN THE..

COMPROMISE.

POLITICS, THE ART OF..

I THINK PEOPLE NEW TO THE POLITICAL GAME ARE GOING TO EVENTUALLY LEARN THAT, OR THEY ARE GOING TO GET VOTED OUT.

>> IT'S A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF COMPROMISE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> WHEN WE SEE -- WHAT WE HAVE COMPROMISED IS ON THEORY.

I WANT TO SEE HOW THIS HOTEL IS GOING TO WORK.

MAYBE IT CATCHES ON, AND EVERY HOTEL CAN HAVE THIS OR IT'S AN UNMITIGATED DISASTER AND NO HOTEL EVER AGREES TO THIS.

THE POINT IS NONE OF US KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE.

GRAND IDEA.

>> OKAY.

MEANWHILE ON..

THE STATE, THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS ARE TWO-TIME DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS.

KANSAS CITY ROYALS GOT OFF.

>> THEY WON IN '15.

>> I ALWAYS THINK OF '85.

>> VERY UPSET ABOUT 1985 TO THIS DAY.

WE WANT A NEW STADIUM AND THE CHIEFS WHO WANT STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR IT AND OVERWHELMINGLY TURNED DOWN A PAIR OF BALLOT ISSUES.

.. LOUIS BASEBALL TEAM?

ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS SOME TAX MONEY TO TRY TO IMPROVE WHATEVER IT IS THEY ARE TRYING TO DO?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF KANSAS CITY FOR USING THE UPPER PART OF THE INTELLECT IN VOTING THE TAX DOWNS.

FOR SPORTS TEAMS.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN TAX BREAKS FOR CORPORATIONS.

YOU WANT TO BUILD A NEW STADIUM, BUILD IT.

YOU GUYS MAKE MONEY.

I HAVE SEEN YOUR PAYROLLS.

BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BUILD.

IF Y.. BECAUSE SOME OTHER PLACE IS WILLING TO MORTGAGE OFF MORE OF THEIR TAX MONEY AND YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE THERE.

SEE YOU.

>> THEY HAD A REPORT TODAY THAT IN THE DOWN '23 SEASON FOR CARDINALS, THE PROFIT WENT UP.

I THINK THAT THIS RESULT IS KIND OF A WARNING TO THEM.

THAT FACILITY IS COMING UP ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN 15 YEARS OR SOMETHING, AND THEN SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE BECAUSE VILLAGE PARKVILLE AGE THERE, BUT IT NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL.

BILLION DOLLARS OR SOMETHING.

I'M NOT SURE IT'S GOING TO FLY ANYMORE.

>> WE NEED IMPROVEMENTS.

WE NEED MONEY FOR IMPROVEMENTS BUT THE DODGERS WILL GIVE $700 MILLION TO ONE PLAYER.

DON'T COME TO ME AS A TAXPAYER AND SAY YOU NEED A LITTLE MORE MONEY FROM ME.

TAKE THE 50 MILLION FROM THE LAST GUY YOU GAVE 700 MILL TO.

>> THEY TRIED TO PLAY THE BLUFF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO DUPO.

AND KANSAS IS A REAL THREAT TO GET THAT BASEBALL STADIUM, ESPECIALLY.

IF T..

THEY WOULD SAY WE MADE A MISTAKE.

SO.. ANSWER TO IT.

THE CHIEFS WON'T MOVE.

BUT I BELIEVE THE ROYALS WOULD.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE JACKSON COUNTY VOTERS WOULD SAY THEY MADE A MISTAKE.

>> JUST DRIVE OVER THE LINE TO KANSAS.

>>.. LOUIS CARDINAL FOOTBALL TEAM PEOPLE FELT GOOD ABOUT IT.

THEY WANTED A NEW STADIUM AND THEY SAID NO.

AND HE CALLED THEM CROOKS AND EVERYTHING.

THE .. ITSELF, THE WHOLE REGION DID.

>> WE HAVE GOT TO GO.

GOT A COUPLE VOICE MAILS THIS WEEK.

>> THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY WILL NOT AGGRESSIVELY COLLECT THEIR DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS AND BUT THEY DON'T LET THE LAWYERS COLLECT.

MSD HAS THE SAME STATUS AS A TAX LIEN, AND WHERE THE CITY AND COUNTY WILL SELL PROPERTIES FOR DELINQUENT TAXES.

MSD WILL NOT LET THEIR.. DO THE SAME THING.

I KNOW THIS IS THE LAW BECAUSE I WROTE IT WHEN I WAS A STATE REPRESENTATIVE IN 1991.

THANK YOU.

>> WE NEED AN OVERSIGHT BOARD FOR MSD.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OR IF SOMEONE COULD FIND OUT FOR ME, WHETHER OR NOT THESE INCREASES THAT THE MSD KEEPS ASKING FOR WILL RETAIN THEIR 4.7 BILLION DOLLARS THAT HAS BEEN WAGED AGAINST THEM BY THE GOVERNMENT.

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