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>> AFTER NEARLY SIX MONTHS OF ISRAEL'S BLOODY WAR IN GAZA, AN INTERNATIONAL OUTCRY OVER THE STRIKE ON AID WORKERS, BIDEN GIVES NETANYAHU AN ULTIMATUM.

I ASK ABOUT THE GROWING CHORUS OF CRITICISM.

>>> THEN HOW TRUMP IS TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WHAT THE IT MEAN FOR AMERICA.

>>> ALSO AHEAD -- >> HUMAN ACTIVITY HAS DAMAGED THE SYSTEMS OF LIFE THAT SUSTAIN US ALL.

>> A BRIEF HISTORY OF OUR FUTURE.

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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS UNDER THE MICROSCOPE LIKE NEVER BEFORE.

A NEW REPORT BLAMES MISTAKEN IDENTIFICATION FOR THE AIR STRIKE THAT KILLED SEVEN AID WORKERS IN GAZA, SAYING THEY BELIEVED THEY WERE TARGETING HAMAS OPERATIVES IN THE CONVOY, MISS TAKING A BAG FOR A GUN.

WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN IS CALLING FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.

THE U.N. SAYS IT IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.

MEANTIME, PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS GIVEN NETANYAHU AN ULTIMATUM.

PROTECT AID WORKERS IN GAZA OR WASHINGTON COULD REIN IN ITS SUPPORT.

WITHIN HOURS OF THAT PHONE CALL, THE ISRAELI LEADER ANNOUNCED ADDITIONAL AID ROUTES.

FOR GAZANS, HELP CANNOT COME FAST ENOUGH WITH MILLIONS ON THE BRINK OF STARVATION.

130 HOSTAGES REMAIN CAPTIVE.

NEARLY SIX MONTHS ON FROM THE DEVASTATING OCTOBER 7th MASSACRE THAT KILLED OVER 1,200 ISRAELIS.

THIS WEEK SAW HUGE PROTESTS IN TEL AVIV AND JERUSALEM.

SO AREPLIED THE GROWING INTERNATIONAL AND DOMESTIC ANGER, I SPOKE TO THE ECONOMY MINISTER NIR BARKAT WHO JOINED ME EARLIER.

THANK YOU.

SO FOR TAKING THE TIME AND JOINING US TODAY.

AS WE'VE BEEN REPORTING, ISRAEL'S MILITARY SAID IT HAS DISMISSED TWO OFFICERS OVER THE TRAGIC STRIKE THAT KILLED SEVEN WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN MEMBERS AND THEY FORMALLY REPRIMANDED TWO OTHERS INCLUDING THE COMMANDER OF THE SOUTHERN COMMAND FOR HIS OVERALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE INCIDENT.

MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, HOW CAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN?

FOR IS A MILITARY THAT ON THE SAME DAY WAS ABLE TO LAUNCH SUCH A PRECISE STRIKE IN SYRIA WHERE IT TOOK OUT THREE IRGC GENERALS AND PINPOINTED EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE, AND YET, YOU COUNTER BALANCE THAT WITH THIS HORRIFIC INCIDENT, WHICH WE SHOULD NOTE, AND PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS NOTED, IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE SEEN AID WORKERS TRAGICALLY KILLED IN THIS WAR.

>> IT'S A BIG TRAGEDY.

THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE THAT CAME TO DO GOOD FOR THE WORLD.

THEY ACTUALLY HELPED ISRAELIS AS WELL.

AND AS YOU SAW, CERTAINLY UNINTENTIONAL.

THE SAME WAY THAT OVER 30 ISRAELI SOLDIERS WERE KILLED BY THE IDF, BY ISRAEL ITSELF.

BY FRIENDLY FIRE.

THE SAME WAY THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THREE OF THE HOSTAGES THAT ESCAPED HAMAS WERE KILLED BY ISRAELI FORCES.

TRAGEDIES LIKE THIS HAPPEN IN WAR.

EVERYONE THAT WAS IN WAR, LIKE MYSELF, UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT IS A TRAGEDY.

CONDOLENCES TO THE PEOPLE, TO THE FAMILIES THAT WERE KILLED.

>> BUT YOU KNOW, THE MAIN LESSON IN TRAGEDIES, IN THESE ERRORS, IS LEARNING FROM THEM.

AND AS WE'VE NOTED, SIX MONTHS INTO THIS HORRIBLE WAR, WE HAVE SEEN TRAGEDY UPON TRAGEDY.

WHETHER IT IS THE IDEA, ACCIDENTALLY KILLING THREE OF ITS OWN HOSTAGES, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT 30 SOLDIERS HAD BEEN KILLED AS WELL.

>> THAT'S PART OF WAR, UNFORTUNATELY, IN EVERY WAR IT HAPPENS.

IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR, 33 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED.

IN SYRIA, HALF A MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED.

IT'S NOT OUR GOAL TO UNFORTUNATELY HAVE THESE ERRORS BUT ERRORS HAPPEN IN WARS.

AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, THE ATROCITIES THAT HAPPENED OCTOBER 7th WERE INTENTIONAL.

WITH A HAMAS DID WAS INTENTIONAL.

THEY ENTERED CITIES AND TOWNS.

THEY KILLED.

THEY RAPED.

THEY TOOK THE GIRLS HOSTAGES, AS YOU KNOW.

>> OF COURSE.

>> AND OVER 200 PEOPLE WERE TAKEN HOSTAGE FROM THEIR HOMES.

THAT'S INTENTIONAL.

>> AND NO ONE -- >> SOMETIMES UNINTENTIONAL TRAGEDIES HAPPEN.

>> AND NO ONE IS DENYING THE ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY HAMAS.

THEY ARE A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.

THEY ARE DEEMED SO BY THE UNITED STATES -- >> INTENTIONALLY.

>> WESTERN COUNTRIES, INTENTIONALLY, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT STANDARDS.

I WOULD IMAGINE YOU AGREE THAT APPLY TO THE ISRAELI ARMY, THE IDF.

THE WORLD IS WATCHING HOW THIS COUNTRY, ONE OF THE MOST PROFESSIONAL ARMIES IN THE WORLD CONDUCTS ITSELF.

WE'VE SEEN NEARLY 200 AID WORKERS KILLED SO FAR.

IT WAS SMART, IT WAS RIGHT TO CONDUCT THIS INVESTIGATION.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PRESSURE ON ISRAEL BY THE WEST, BY THE UNITED STATES, EVEN INTERNALLY TO GET THIS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THE WCK COMMENDS ISRAEL.

THEY CONTINUE TO ASK FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON TOP OF THAT.

WILL THERE BE ONE?

>> I'M PROUD OF THE ETHICS.

WE DO OUR BEST TO TARGET THE MONSTERS IN HAMAS.

AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S STILL A QUARTER OF THOSE NAZIS STILL IN RAFAH.

WE CANNOT ALLOW, IT IS NOT JUST WHAT HAPPENED OCTOBER 7th.

IT IS TO PREVENT THE NEXT ONE.

IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, THESE JIHADISTS, THEIR GOAL IS TO DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

WE HAVE TO KILL THEM ALL.

THEIR INTENTION IS TO DO IT AGAIN.

BY THE WAY, NOT JUST TO ISRAEL.

NOT JUST TO THE JEWS BUT ALL NONMUSLIMS.

AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THE MODERATE ARAB STATES ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR GOALS AS MUCH AS WE ARE AND AS MUCH AS THE U.S. OF A IS CONCERNED.

>> OF COURSE.

AND WE HAVE BEEN REPORTING THAT, MR. MINISTER, NO ONE HERE WOULD EVER DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF HAMAS.

NOR WOULD ANYONE SAY HAMAS SHOULD CONTINUE TO RL IN GAZA ONCE THIS WAR IS OVER.

I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU CAN LIMIT THE, YOUR ACTIONS TO ONLY TARGET HAMAS AS OPPOSED TO -- AND I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTIES OF URBAN WARFARE.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, YOU TALK ABOUT THE PLANS TO GO INTO RAFAH.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTERNATION AND CONCERN IN THE WEST, IN THE UNITED STATES ABOUT HOW THAT WILL PLAY OUT, AND GIVEN WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND THE MANNER IN WHICH THIS WAR HAS BEEN CONDUCTED THUS FAR, HOW DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL TO KNOW EVEN YOUR CLOSEST ALLY, THE UNITED STATES, DOESN'T VIEW YOUR CONDUCT WITH MUCH CONFIDENCE IN TERMS OF OF ACCOMPLISHING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN RAFAH WITH LIMITING, ALSO LIMITING THE NUMBER OF CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.

>> YOU JUST ASKED ME SEVEN QUESTIONS IN ONE QUESTION.

OKAY?

THE REALITY IS THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE GOT TO GET RID OF HAMAS.

THEY'RE NAZIS.

THEY'RE PART OF THE ALLIANCE.

THE EVIL JIHADI ALLIANCE.

THEN THE HEZBOLLAH, QATAR AND IRAN TOGETHER, THEIR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO PEACE.

THEIR GOAL IS TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP.

TO KILL ALL JEWS.

TO KILL ALL CHRISTIANS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY INTEND TAD.

THAT'S WHY WE PLAYED THE TO FINISH HAMAS OFF.

THERE'S TOTAL CONSENSUS.

TOTAL SUPPORT.

WE DON'T WANT TO HURT JEWISH PEOPLE.

THAT'S THE JEWISH DNA.

WE DON'T WANT TO HURT ANY INNOCENT PEOPLE.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT HAMAS IS HATEDING BEHIND THEM.

THEY'RE HIDING.

THEY PUT ALL THEIR WEAPONRY IN SCHOOLS, IN MOSQUES.

THEY KNOW TO HIDE.

THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

THIS WAR COULD BE OVER IN A MINUTE.

THE MINUTE HAMAS SAYS WE SURRENDER, TOTAL SURRENDER.

THE WAR WILL BE OVER IN A MINUTE.

THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON HAMAS.

HOW DO WE GET RID OF THEM.

THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON QATAR THAT SUPPORTS THEM, THAT GIVES SAFE HAVEN TO THE LEADERS OF HAMAS IN QATAR.

AND FUNDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS -- >> BUT DO YOU -- DO YOU THINK -- I AGREE WITH YOU.

THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON HAMAS.

THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON HAMAS TO RELEASE THESE HOSTAGES.

A LOT OF THIS WOULD TEMPORARILY COME TO AN END.

DO YOU THINK UNINTENTIONALLY, THE WAY THERE WAR IS CONDUCTED, THE WAY IT IS POLITICALLY, THE LEADERSHIP, THE WAY DIPLOMATALLY, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE SEEING FROM YOUR ADMINISTRATION IS IN GOVERNMENT, IS TAKING AWAY THE PRESSURE OFF HAMAS BY THE FOCUS BEING ON SOME OF THESE, THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS THUS FAR.

>> I TOTALLY DISAGREE.

WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON ONE THING.

ELIMINATING HAMAS.

WE ARE ALLOWING ALL AID THAT IS COMING FROM THE WHOLE WORLD -- BY THE WAY, THERE IS NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EVER IN ANY WAR THAT HELPED ITS ENEMY RECEIVE ANY KIND OF HELP.

BUT WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.

WE ACCEPT THAT.

OUR VALUES ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN HAMAS.

OUR VALUES -- >> ISN'T THAT ALSO YOUR RESPONSIBILITY?

>> WE AGREE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE AGREED.

>> ISN'T THAT -- >> LASER FOCUSED, TO KILL ALL THE HAMAS LEADERSHIP TO TOTALLY TAKE THEM APART AND DOING THAT WITH MINIMAL DAMAGE.

THAT'S WHY THE WAR TOOK US HALF A YEAR.

WE COULD HAVE FINISHED IT MUCH FASTER.

BUT WE ARE CONSIDERATE.

THAT'S WHY THE WAR IS TAKING TIME.

WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.

WE'RE VERY COMMITTED TO END THE WAR.

AT THE TAIL END OF THISSER WITH A, HAMAS WILL NOT EXIST.

>> YOU MENTIONED HAMAS'S GOALS.

YOUR GOVERNMENT HAS LAID OUT ITS OWN PRESET GOALS.

DESTROYING HAMAS AND RELEASING THE HOSTAGES.

SIX MONTHS INTO THE WAR, WE'VE SEEN ONE CEASE-FIRE WHERE THANKFULLY, SOME HOSTAGES WERE RELEASED.

YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESCUE ONLY THREE OF THE HOSTAGES DURING THIS WAR.

AND DESPITE THE NUMBER OF CASUALTIES, YOU HAVE YET TO DEFEAT HAMAS.

YOU HAVE YET TO DEFEAT EVEN THEIR TOP LEADER.

SO GIVEN YOUR OWN PRESET GOALS, HAVEN'T YOU FAILED THUS FAR?

>> BECAUSE WE'RE CONSIDERATE OF THE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN GAZA.

WE WANT TO DO THAT WITH MINIMAL COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

THAT'S THE VALUES OF ISRAELIS, THE VALUES OF US JEWS.

WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE 30th RIGHT PEOPLE.

IF IT TAKES TIME, WE'RE FINE WITH IT.

WE HAVE THE ENERGY, WE HAVE THE PATIENCE.

WE WANT OUR GIRLS BACK.

WE WANT OUR HOSTAGES BACK.

WE WANT THESE GIRLS RIGHT HERE.

>> WE WANT THAT, TOO.

>> I KNOW SOME OF THEM.

>> I DO, TOO.

>> WE'RE TAKING OUR TIME BECAUSE WE'RE CONSIDERATE.

AND FOR THE WORLD TO APPRECIATE AND IN LINE WITH US, AND THE PRESSURE SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON US THAT WE WANT TO PUT AN END TO THIS WAR.

HAMAS STARTED THE WAR.

WE WILL END IT AT THE TAIL END OF IT, AT THE END.

WAR, THERE WON'T BE ANY MORE HAMAS.

WE WANT NEIGHBORS LIKE EMIRATES THAT CHANGED THEIR EDUCATION SYSTEM.

THAT THEY'RE NOT TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN, EDUCATING THEIR CHILDREN TO KILL JEWS.

HAMAS AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY ARE PAYING $1 MILLION, $1 MILLION FOR SOMETHING THAT KILLS A JEW.

AND THEY TREAT AND EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN TO KILL JEWS.

THEY'RE FUNDED -- LIKE QATAR.

>> LET ME ASK YOU WHAT WAS DESCRIBED AS A VERY TENSE PHONE CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT BETWEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN AND PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU.

IT LASTED ABOUT 30 MINUTES WHERE PRESIDENT BIDEN POINT BLANK THREATENED FUTURE SUPPORT DEPENDING ON HOW IT CONDUCTS ITSELF IN THIS WAR AND TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE HUMANITARIAN TOLL.

QUICKLY THERE AFTER, THEY SAID THEY WOULD ALLOW THE SUPPORT TO BE USED TO PROCESS AID SHIPMENTS HEADED FOR GAZA.

DOES THAT NOT SUGGEST THAT ALL ALONG, ISRAEL COULD HAVE BEEN DOING MORE TO PROVIDE MORE HUMANITARIAN AID, GIVEN THIS QUICK RESPONSE?

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MONSTERS.

PEOPLE WHO CAME INTO ISRAEL OCTOBER 7th.

KILLED.

RAPED WOMEN.

THEY KILLED THE WOMEN WHILE THEY RAPED THEM.

WHAT THEY'VE DONE, WE HAVE NOT SEEN SINCE NAZI TIMES.

SO ISRAEL RETALIATES.

DeED TO GO TO WAR AND IF NOT THE WAR AND FINISH THE WAR OFF.

WE ARE CONSIDERATE.

WHEN OUR FRIENDS IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS AND OPINIONS, WE'RE CONSIDERATE.

WE'RE LISTENING.

THAT'S FINE.

WE'RE PROUD OF THAT.

THAT WE HAVE VALUES UNLIKE HAMAS.

I WANT TO MENTION ONE MORE THING IN THIS CHALLENGE.

AND THAT IS QATAR.

QATAR IS FUNDING ISIS.

THEY'RE FUNDING HAMAS.

THEY'RE FUNDING ALL OF THESE RADICAL ISLAMIC JIHADISTS AND THEY'RE LIKE A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHES.

>> I KNOW, AND THIS HAS BEEN -- >> AND THEY'RE A MAJOR, MAJOR PROBLEM -- >> THIS IS A POINT -- >> QATAR IS OUT OF THIS EQUATION.

THEY'RE AN ENEMY OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL.

THEY'RE FUNDING AND SUPPORTING HAMAS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MUST END AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> AND THIS HAS BEEN A POINT YOU'VE MADE.

I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO ANOTHER INTERVIEW THAT YOU GAVE RECENTLY TO ANOTHER NETWORK.

THAT THIS VERY ADMINISTRATION, NETANYAHU, HAD AGREED FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE FUNDED.

I DON'T WANT TO PRESS ON THAT ISSUE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THREATS THAT ISRAEL FACES INCLUDING -- >> QATAR IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST.

>> BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT INTERNALLY.

YOUR POLL NUMBERS YURGS PARTY'S POLL NUMBERS HAVE CONTINUES TO DECLINE.

MAYBE THERE ARE DIFFERING VIEWS AMONG ISRAELIS THAT THEY DO WANT THIS WAR TO CONTINUE BUT THEY'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH HOW THIS WAR IS BEING CONDUCTED.

THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE HOSTAGES, OF THOSE GIRLS THAT YOU RAISED, THEY ARE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THEIR LOVED ONES NOT COMING HOME YET.

AND THEY'RE INCREASINGLY CONCERNED THAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS NOT DOING ENOUGH TO DO THAT.

SO WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE WEST'S RESPONSE TO ISRAEL'S CONDUCT WITH THIS WAR.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE INTERNAL RESPONSE.

THERE'S NOT MUCH LOVE AND NOT MUCH POPULARITY FOR HOW THIS WAR IS BEING CONDUCTED AND WHERE THE PRIORITIES ARE.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?

>> THE FAMILIES OF THE HOSTAGES, I IDENTIFY WITH THEM.

IMAGINE THAT YOU HAD A DAUGHTER.

AND YOU KNOW THAT SHE'S IN THE TUNNELS HALF A YEAR, RAPED, ABUSED.

THEY DON'T SLEEP AT NIGHT.

AND ALL ISRAELIS FEEL THESE GIRLS ARE OUR GIRLS AND WE DON'T SLEEP GOOD AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF THAT.

THE WORLD SHOULD BE DEEPLY CONCERNED.

AND PUT ALL THE PRESSURE ON HAMAS, NOT ON THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT.

PUT PRESSURE ON QATAR.

PUT PRESSURE ON THE ONES THAT DID COMMIT THESE ATROCITIES.

THAT'S THE FOCUS.

AND ISRAEL IS UNITED.

I'M NOT GOING INTO ALL THE DETAILS AND POLITICS BUT THE WHOLE OF ISRAEL UNITED ON ONE MAJOR GOAL.

DEFEAT HAMAS AND BRING OUR HOSTAGES BACK.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON.

AS A GOVERNMENT, A PARLIAMENT, ALL OF US ARE UNITED.

THE SOLDIERS IN ISRAEL ARE UNITED IN FIGHTING FOR THOSE TWO GOALS WHICH ARE CLEAR, VERY SIMPLE GOALS THAT WE WILL GET AND ACCOMPLISH.

WE HAVE NO CHOICE.

IF GOD FORBID WE ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL AND HAMAS THINKS IT COMES OUT ALIVE OF THIS, THEN THE TRAGEDIES AND ATROCITIES OF OCTOBER 7th WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN.

NOT JUST IN ISRAEL BUT TO EUROPE AND IT WILL BE IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE HAVE TO STOP THE JIHADISTS THAT WANT TO KILL ALL NONMUSLIMS.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

NOT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ISRAEL BUT FOR THE SAKE.

FREE WORLD.

THE PRESSURE SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON ISRAEL.

THE PRESSURE MUST GO TO HAMAS AND QATAR AND THEIR PARTNERS.

EVENTUALLY -- >> LET'S, LET'S REITERATE.

YOU KEEP COMPARING YOURSELF TO HAMAS.

HOSPITAL IN ONE IS COMPARING TO YOU HAMAS.

I THINK EVERY SMART, RATIONAL PERSON WOULD AGREE THAT YOUR GOALS ARE THE RIGHTEOUS ONES.

THAT HAMAS SHOULD BE DEFEATED AND THAT THE HOSTAGES SHOULD BE RELEASED.

NO ONE IS ARGUING THAT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE UNITED STATES AND PRESIDENT BIDEN.

AS YOU KNOW, IT IS THE CONDUCT OF THIS WAR, AT TIMES THE DISMISSIVENESS TO U.S.

SUGGESTIONS AND ADVICE.

IT IS NOT JUST THAT THE U.S. IS YOUR FRIEND.

U.S. IS YOUR NUMBER ONE PROVIDER AND SOURCE OF MILITARY ASSISTANCE, AS YOU KNOW.

SO LET JUST BE CLEAR ON THAT.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER THERE ARE DISAGREEMENTS ON YOUR GOAL.

IT IS ABOUT HOW THIS IS BEING PURSUED.

WHETHER THE FOCUS BECAUSE OF YOUR ACTIONS UNINTENTIONALLY IS TAKING OFF THAT REQUIRED PRESSURE ON HAMAS.

>> WE KNOW HOW TO GET TO TERMS WITH AMERICANS.

WE ALL MAY NOT THE SAME.

WE ALL WANT TO DEFEAT HAMAS.

WE WANT OUR HOSTAGES BACK AND WE WANT MINIMAL COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

SO THE DISCUSSIONS EVENTUALLY I BELIEVE WILL BE FRATFUL.

THE REALITY IS THE WAR WILL NOT END UNTIL WE FINISH HAMAS OFF.

THAT'S THE GOAL.

I'M QUITE OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS.

I BELIEVE WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE ISRAEL HAS NO CHOICE.

WE HAVE NO CHOICE.

WE HAVE OUR BACK AGAINST THE WALL.

THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

WE WANT PEACE AND WE'VE EXPANDED THE PEACE WITH THE EMIRATES AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE SAUDIS IN THE FUTURE.

THESE ARE THE KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT ISRAEL WANTS TO HAVE PEACE WITH.

ARAB STATES THAT BELIEVE IN PEACE, THAT BELIEVE IN COEXISTENCE.

TOGETHER, ALL.

US MUST FIND THE EVIL ALIGNMENT, STARTING WITH IRAN AND QATAR, GOING TO HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH.

WE HAVE TO DEFEAT THEM.

AND THE UNITED STATES ARE OUR GREATEST PARTNER AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

>> WHERE THE U.S. IS FULLY ALIGNED WITH ISRAEL IS OBVIOUSLY IN YOUR PROTECTION AND THE INCREASED CONCERN ABOUT ANY SORT OF RETALIATORY STEPS THAT IRAN MAY TAKE IN THE TARGETING AND KILLING OF THOSE IRG MEMBERS THIS WEEK.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN INSIDE ISRAEL, AS YOU KNOW YOURSELF.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF PEOPLE STOCKPILING FAD.

TO THE POINT WHERE THE IDF HAD TO COME OUT AND ADDRESS THE COUNTRY WILL GPS SYSTEM ARE BEING JAM.

HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU THAT A SECOND FRONT COULD HOPE IN A DIRECT CONFLICT WITH IRAN?

>> ISRAEL IS A STRONG NATION.

WE HOPE FOR THE BEST AND PREPARE FOR THE WORST.

AND IF IRAN IS THREATENING, WE WILL TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS NECESSARY AND EXPLAIN TO OUR CITIZENS AND CIVILIANS WITH A PRECAUTIONS THEY MUST TAKE JUST IF CASE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF GOD FOR BID THEY DO DECIDE TO ATTACK, WE'LL BE MORE READY.

ISRAEL UNDERSTANDS WITH EYES OPEN.

ESPECIALLY AFTER OCTOBER 7th.

WE WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY.

ISRAEL KNOWS HOW TO PREPARE ITSELF.

AND AFTER OCTOBER 7th, WE DON'T TAKE ANY CHANCES.

WE TAKE ALL THE THREATS VERY SERIOUSLY.

>> MR. MINISTER, THANK YOU.

SO FOR YOUR TIME.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> A RESPONSE IN THE PREVIOUS ALLEGATIONS BY HIM, THE SPOKESPERSON FOR QATAR HAS CALLED SUCH ACCUSATIONS BASELESS, ADDING THAT QATAR HAS HELPED SECURE THE RELEASE OF 109 HOSTAGES AND IS RELENTLESSLY WORKING ON THE RELEASE OF THE REMAINING HOSTAGES.

>>> WE TURN NOW TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ONGOING CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.

THE SYSTEM WHICH IS SEEKING TO HOLD HIM TO ACCOUNT.

AT PRESENT, TRUMP FACES 88 CHARGES ACROSS FOUR CRIMINAL CASES.

THE WEEK A JUDGE DENIED THE REQUEST, CITING THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACTS.

JUDGES WHO HAVE WORKED IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM ALL THEIR LIVES SEE A BROADER PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR.

ATTEMPTING TO DELAY JUSTICE AND ATTACK THE COURTS.

THE FORMER SENIOR COUNCIL ON THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE, GANG TEMIDAYO AGANGA-WILLIAMS IS HERE.

IT DOES SEEM TO BE DELAY, DELAY, DELAY.

WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE ELECTIONS BY THE DAY.

THERE ARE FOUR CRIMINAL CASES AND EVERY WEEK IT APPEARS THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S COUNSEL, HIS LAWYERS ARE FILING NEW MOTIONS TRYING TO MAKE EVERY APPEAL THEY CAN.

THUS FAR THAT SEEM TO BE WORKING.

WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THIS?

>> I THINK IT IS WORKING SOMEWHAT.

THE THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM DOES MOVE SLOWLY.

IT MOVES SLOWLY FOR AMERICANS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

IT IS EXASPERATED HERE BECAUSE THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS RESOURCES, AND HE IS SEEKING TO AVOID ACCOUNTABILITY.

BUT I THINK WHAT HE IS ALSO DOING IS HE IS TESTING OUR INSTITUTIONS.

AND I THINK IT IS QUITE DAMAGING TO PUBLIC PERCEPTION TO HAVE THE IDEA THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT MAY NOT BE FORCED TO ADDRESS AND ACCOUNT FOR HIS ACTIONS AT THE END OF HIS TERM.

I STILL HOLD CONFIDENCE THAT HE WILL FIND HIS DAY IN A CRIMINAL COURTROOM.

AND I THINK IT IS LIKELY, AND I EXPECT HE WILL HAVE HIS FIRST DAY IN JURY SELECTION ON APRIL 15th IN THE NEW YORK ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE.

I THINK THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS ON ITS WAY.

>> APRIL 15th.

HE'S BEEN TRYING TO DELAY THAT.

AND THE JUDGE HERE IN NEW YORK CITY WAS HAVING NONE OF IT AND SAYS THAT'S EXACTLY WHEN THIS CASE AND TRIAL IS SET TO BEGIN.

THAT DOESN'T STOP THE FORMER PRESIDENT TO STOP A LOT OF NOISE WITH THE BUILD-UP AND THE PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST THE JUDGE HIMSELF, THE JUDGE'S FAMILY.

THERE HAVE BEEN GAG ORDERS ISSUED.

I GUESS THE JUDGE AND THE PROSECUTOR PERHAPS ARE FAIR GAME IN TERMS OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

BUT THERE IS A REAL CONCERN ABOUT INTIMIDATION WITH REGARD TO THE JURORS.

WITH REGARDS TO ANY OF THE WITNESSES INVOLVED IN THIS CASE.

THIS JUDGE HAS NOT BACKED DOWN AND HAS EXPANDED THE SCOPE OF THE GAG ORDER FOLLOWING THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S ONGOING ATTACKS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT'S A FINE LINE AND SOMETHING WE RARELY IF EVER HAVE EXPERIENCED.

ESPECIALLY OF SOMEONE OF HIS STATURE, A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

DO YOU THINK THIS JUDGE HAS ACTED APPROPRIATELY?

GONE FAR ENOUGH OR TOO FAR IN ISSUING THING GAG ORDER?

>> I THINK HE HAS ACTED APPROPRIATELY.

TRUMP HAS DONE EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO DISRUPT OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

HE HAS TRIED TO UNDERMAIN THE JUDGE.

HE HAS PLACED A TARGET ON THE BACK OF THE JUDGE'S DAUGHTER.

AND HE'S DONE THIS OVER EVERY CASE THAT HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN.

BESIDES ONE.

THAT IS CASE OF JUDGE CANNON IN FLORIDA WHERE EVERY RULING SHE MAKES IS EFFECTIVELY ALMOST A PRO-TRUMP, IT SEEMS.

I THINK THE DANGER HERE IS THE SAME THING WE SAW JANUARY 6th.

THERE IS A CONNECTION HERE.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE FORMER PRESIDENT USES HIS WORDS TO CALL HIS SUPPORTERS, TO FOCUS THEIR TARGET ON SINGLE INDIVIDUALS OR INSTITUTIONS, OR SOMETHING ELSE.

AND THE RESULT THERE IS VIOLENCE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS REALLY AT STAKE HERE.

WHEN SOMEONE LIKE THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS NAMING A JUDGE'S DAUGHTER HAD A DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BE IN PUBLIC OFFICE, WHO DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BE A JUDGE, WHO DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BE A DISTRICT ATTORNEY, PUTTING A PICTURE OF HER FACE, HER LIKENESS TO THE PUBLIC AND SAYING THERE IS THE PERSON COMING AFTER ME, EFFECTIVELY.

THAT THE CONSEQUENCE WILL BE A DAY OF VIOLENCE.

WE'VE HAD IT AT THE CAPITOL AND I THINK THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING AGAIN.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

WHEN YOU HAVE VIOLENCE, WHEN YOU HAVE MORE INTIMIDATION, WHEN YOU HAVE MORE THREATS FROM DONALD TRUMP, WHAT DO YOU DO THEN?

IF THIS WEREFULLY OTHER CRIMINAL DEFENDANT, YOU WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT PRETRIAL REMAND, MAY KNOW PUTTING HIM IN CUSTODY, MORE RESTRICTIONS.

HERE THAT'S NOT A QUESTION ANYONE HAS SERIOUSLY STRUGGLED WITH.

BUT I DO THINK THAT QUESTION WILL BECOME MORE AND MORE AT THE FRONT OF MIND AS HIS BEHAVIOR CONTINUES.

>> IS THIS SOMETHING YOU THINK JUDGE MARCHAND IS IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING TO EVALUATE?

AND PLAN AHEAD FOR?

GIVEN THAT WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE BECAUSE OF HIS PAST BEHAVIOR ONCE THIS TRIAL BEGINS.

I'M NOT HOLDING MY BREATH THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WON'T MAKE PERSONAL ACCUSATIONS OR NAME CALLING OR ATTACKS AGAINST FAMILY MEMBERS OR WHOEVER IS INVOLVED IN THIS CASE.

>> I THINK HE'S GUARANTEED, HE'S ALREADY DONE THAT.

THE DAY OF THE EXPANDED GAG ORDER, DONALD TRUMP POSTED ON HIS SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT THAT IMPLICATED THE JUDGE'S DAUGHTER.

HE'S ALREADY THUMBED HIS FINGER IN THE JUDGE'S EYE THERE.

IN THE JUDGE'S ORDER REGARDING EXPANDING THE GAG ORDER, HE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE CRIMINAL CONTEMPT.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE JUDGE COULD IMPOSE FINES UPON DONALD TRUMP AND COULD ACTUALLY PUT HIM IN JAIL, UP TO 30 DAYS FOR CRIMINAL CONTEMPT.

SO I THINK THE JUDGE IS LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD AND TRYING TO FOREWARN TO DONALD TRUMP AND HIS LAWYERS THAT IF THIS CONTINUES, THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES, ESPECIALLY AT LEFT A INITIALLY, MONDAY TEAR MONETARY.

WHETHER HE WOULD PUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT IN CUSTODY, I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY BECAUSE OF THE BLOWBACK.

WHETHER THAT'S JUSTIFIED, I THINK IT IS UNLIKELY.

I THINK THE JUDGE WILL START WITH FINES, INCREASING THOSE, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.

>> LISTEN, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO THESE ACTIONS.

PEOPLE FOLLOW THIS FORMER PRESIDENT AND THESE PUBLIC THREATS CONTINUE.

THE CONSERVATIVE LAWYER CALLED HIS THREATS VICIOUS, DISGRACEFUL AND UNFORGIVABLE.

ATTACKS AGAINST THE STATE JUDICIARY.

SO THIS IS A TOP CONCERN FOR MANY IN THIS FIELD, AND OF COURSE, WE'LL BE WATCHING IT JUST DAYS AWAY FROM THERE TRIAL IN NEW YORK SET TO START.

THANK YOU.

SO FOR YOUR TIME.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> WE GO BACK TO THE FUTURE.

ARI WALLACH HOSTS A NEW DOCUMENTARY SERIES, "A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE FUTURE."

HE JOINS HARI SREENIVASAN TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN LEARN FROM HISTORY.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

FIRST THE TITLE.

A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE FUTURE?

>> MOST PEOPLE THINK IT WILL JUST BE ABOUT THE FUTURE.

ONE THING THAT BECAME VERY CLEAR TO ME HAVING DONE IT 20 YEARS, THE FUTURE DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A VACUUM.

THE FUTURE DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN AS SOMETHING THAT IS PROJECTING OUT FROM THE PRESENT.

IN FACT MOST EVERYTHING THAT WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW IN MANY WAYS STARTED YESTERDAY.

SO IT MAKES SENSE WHEN WE DECIDE TO CREATE A SLOW ABOUT THE FUTURE THAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT ALMOST GOING TO THE FUTURE AND THEN LOOKING BACKWARDS AND TALKING ABOUT HOW WE GOT THERE.

AND THEN GO BACK 20 YEARS, SOMETIMES YOU GO BACK 200 YEARS, SOMETIMES WE GO BACK 200,000 YEARS.

>> YOU POINT POUT OFTENTIMES, WE HAVE STRUCTURAL ILL THAT HE HADIMENTS TO THINKING LONG TERM.

AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF EXAMS OF THAT.

WE SEE AND LIVE THROUGH.

WHAT YOUR PROGRAM DOES THAT'S INTERESTING, YOU POINT OUT PLACES AND PEOPLE WHO NOT ONLY HAVE THOUGHT LONGTERM AS PART OF THE CULTURE BUT EVEN TODAY, THERE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE GETTING TOGETHER AND THINKING BEYOND EVEN THEIR OWN LIFE TIMES ON HOW TO POLICY DECISIONS THEY MAKE WILL IMPACT FUTURE GENERATIONS.

>> YEAH.

ONE OF THE MORE SENAITING VISITS WE DID, ABOUT TWO HOURS NORTH OF TOKYO WITH A PROFESSOR.

HE'S BASICALLY DEVELOPED THIS THING CALLED FUTURE DESIGN.

HE'LL BRING A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER.

IT COULD BE 30 PEOPLE OR 300 PEOPLE WHO ARE WRESTLING WITH A MAJOR DECISION AT LET'S SAY, A CIVIC ORGANIZATIONAL LEVEL.

HE'LL CLEAVE OFF MAYBE A THIRD OF THE GROUP.

AND HE'LL HAVE THEM DON CEREMONIAL ROBES.

WHEN YOU PUT ON THE ROBE, WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IS YOU TRANSFORM INTO A CITIZEN FROM THE FUTURE.

SO YOU MAY BE IN THE 2050s OR THE 2060s.

AND WHAT YOUR ROLE IN THAT MEETING NOW IS TO ACT AS A PROXY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

SO WHERE TO BUILD ALY ON OR A SCHOOL OR HOW TO ALLOCATE RESOURCES.

IT IS NOT JUST FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IN THE PRESENT TENSE.

NOW HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE IN THE ROOM.

SO THERE ARE WAYS OF ACTUALLY DESIGNING HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE.

HOW WE IMPLEMENT PROJECTS AND ENDEAVORS IN A WAY THAT WILL BRING THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE INTO THE ROOM.

>> ONE OF YOUR GUESTS IS THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CABINET SECRETARY PETE BUTTIGIEG WHO IS IN CHARGE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, AND RIGHT NOW, WE ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN THE WAKE OF A TRAGIC BRIDGE ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

AND I WONDER, IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS, IS THERE A PLACE WHERE HE'S THINKING ABOUT OUR INVESTMENTS IN BRIDGES AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN A DIFFERENT TIME SCALE THAN LET'S JUST FIX THIS NOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET CARS ACROSS THE CHANNEL.

>> I'LL BE HONEST.

I INTERVIEW PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD.

AND PETE BUTTIGIEG IS ONE OF THE MORE SPECIAL ONES.

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN HIM ON TV, YOU CAN THROW ANY QUESTION AT HIM AND IT WILL START IN ATHENIAN DEMOCRACY.

I STILL CALL HIM MAYOR PETE.

I KNOW HE'S SECRETARY PETE.

I SAY LISTEN, I KNOW YOU WORK ON INFRASTRUCTURE BUT THERE'S PROBABLY DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURES THAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THAT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE TALKED ABOUT, THIS GOES BACK TO THE TITLE.

SHOW.

WHEN HE THINKS ABOUT LONG-TERM INFRASTRUCTURE, BRIDGES, TUNNELS, ROADS, HE DOESN'T JUST THINK ABOUT THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AND WILL BE BUILT.

HE THINKS WHAT ABOUT THE ONES THAT WERE MADE?

>> IT IS IMPORTANT NOT JUST BECAUSE OF SOME VAGUE AND ROMANTIC CONCEPTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.

IT IS ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH CONSEQUENCES.

THERE'S EVIDENCE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THE SURVIVABILITY OF TORNADOES, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL, GOES UP IN NEIGHBORHOODS OR COMMUNITIES WHERE NEIGHBORS KNOW EACH OTHER.

SO A SIMPLE PRINT OR TEST, WHETHER YOU'RE DESIGNING A SUBDIVISION OR A DENSE CITY BLOCK WOULD BE, DOES THIS DESIGN ENCOURAGE OR DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM KNOWING WHO THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE?

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS, THE COMMUNITIES ON EITHER SIDE.

WHAT DOES IT DO TO THEIR SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN THEY'RE TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR JOBS AND FROM THEIR COMMUNITIES?

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW WE BUILD FOR TOMORROW, YES, IT'S STEEL, CEMENT, PIPES, BUT IT IS ALSO COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THE THING THAT CAME UP IN THE SHOW AS I MET WITH DOZENS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD AND I ASKED ABOUT THEIR VISIONS OF TOMORROW.

NO ONE EVER SAID, I WANT MORE MONO RAILS, MORE JET PACKS.

TRADITIONALLY WHAT THEY SAID WAS, WHATEVER THE FUTURE WILL HOLD, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A ROOM FOR COMMUNITY.

THAT COMMUNITY IS CENTER.

AND THERE IS WHAT PETE KEPT BRINGING UP.

OUR FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO CENTER COMMUNITY, NOT JUST INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FUTURE, ONE OF THE CENTRAL SOURCES OF ANXIETY FOR GENERATIONS THAT ARE COMING UP NOW IS HOW WE ARE COLLECTIVELY GOING TO SOLVE FOR THE CLIMATE CRISIS.

I KNOW YOU SAT DOWN WITH KATHERINE, A FANTASTIC SCIENTIST AND COMMUNICATOR, WHAT WERE HER TIPS ON HOW TO ENGAGE PEOPLE IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT CLIMATE AND THE FUTURE IN A WAY THAT OVERCOMES OUR IMMEDIATE TRIBAL INSTINCTS TO SAY, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CLIMATE, YOU MUST NOT BE FOR THE THINGS I STAND FOR.

>> MEETING WITH HER WAS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.

SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW WE COME AT CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE SAME WAY MY WIFE AS A SOCIAL WORKER WILL MEET WITH CLIENTS.

YOU HAVE TO MEET WITH PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

NOT WHERE YOU WANT THEM TO BE.

SO TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE OR ANYTHING DISRUMMIVE TO OUR CURRENT REALITY.

WE COME AT PEOPLE WITH THE FACTS.

WE COME AT THEM WITH WHAT WE THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW.

IF ONLY THEY KNEW X, THEY WOULD THINK Y.

WITH KATHERINE IT BECAME VERY OBVIOUS AS WE WE BELIEVE THROUGH OUR CONVERSATION, NOT ONLY DOES SHE NOT THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT, SHE WASN'T EVEN DOING WITH IT ME.

IT BECAME VERY META DURING OUR CONVERSATION.

I REALIZED, OH, I WAS ASKING HER CERTAIN QUESTIONS.

SHE SAW ME FOR WHO I WAS AND WHAT I WANTED AS A HOST OF THE SHOW.

AND SHE STARTED TO SPEAK TO ME IN MY TERMS.

AS THE HOST OF THE SHOW, YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY.

SO IT'S REALLY FINDING THE STORIES WITHIN THE REALITY OF THE PEOPLE YOU WANT TO TALK TO.

AND THEN FINDING THE COMMONALITY IN THE INTERSECTION OF WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE WILL DO TO THEIR STORIES AND THEIR LIFE AND HOW CLIMATE CHANGE WILL IMPEDE WHAT THEY WANT FROM THEIR LIFE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT DRIVING LESS OR EATING LESS HAMBURGERS.

IT IS ABOUT ENSURING YOU'RE TAKING ACTIONS THAT ARE BOTH FOR THE PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KATHERINE BROUGHT UP AND OUR OWN RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THIS.

PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR LEGACY.

WHAT KIND OF WORLD ARE THEY LEAVING BEHIND.

SO SOMETIMES IT IS AS SIMPLE AS SAYING, IF YOU DO THIS, THERE WILL BE LESS OF THAT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT GIVEN A FAIR SHAKE TO THE FOUGHT, THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE DIFFERENT ACTIONS.

>> YOU WENT TO A PLACE, I THINK IT IS CALLED DEMENTIA VILLAGE.

WHAT IS DISTINCT ABOUT THAT?

WHAT DID THAT EXPERIENCE TEACH BUT A DIFFERENT WAY TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING THAT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, PROBABLY IN OUR FAMILIES, MAYBE EVEN US, WILL EXPERIENCE?

>> SO OUTSIDE OF AMSTERDAM THERE'S A PLACE KNOWN AS DEMENTIA VILLAGE.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES, BARRING ANY MAJOR SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENT, ONE IN THREE OF US WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF MEMORY CARE NERVE DEGENERATIVE DISEASE AFFLICTING US OR THOSE WE LOVE.

IN AMERICA, THE WAY WE DEAL WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, SADLY BUT IN MANY WAYS UNDERSTANDABLY, IS WE BASICALLY PUT PEOPLE IN LOCKED HOSPITAL WARDS.

AND WE FIND THEY CAN BE VERY ANXIOUS AND DEPRESSED AND IT IS A COMMON IMAGE OF WHAT SOMEONE GOING THROUGH THIS LOOKS LIKE.

THEY'RE LASHING OUT AND YELLING AND WHAT NOT.

SO THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING SENAITING.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY THERE.

A WILL THE OF WHAT WE DO IN THE SHOW ISN'T EXAMPLES OF TECHNOLOGY.

WE DO THAT.

WE SHOW A LOT OF AMAZING TECHNOLOGY.

BUT SOMETIMES THE TECHNOLOGY IS JUST THE MINDSET SHIFT.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING PEOPLE IN LOCKED WARDS, THEY ACTUALLY BUILT A SAFE AND SECURE VILLAGE.

SO NO ONE CAN COME IN AND OUT AS THEY WISH BUT THE RESIDENTS LIVE IN PODS.

THEY MAKE THEIR OWN FOOD.

THERE'S EVEN A GROCERY STORE, A RESTAURANT, A MOVIE THEATER THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE CAN VISIT.

THEY DON'T CARRY WALLETWALLETS.

WHEN PEOPLE WERE LIVING IN AN ENVIRONMENT, IN A COMMUNITY THAT WAS NOT THE KIND OF USUAL LOCKED WARD, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE ASPECTS.

THEIR LAYOFF FROM THE YEARS BEFORE.

SO GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, TO THE RESTAURANT, THEY REQUIRED 80 TO 85% LESS MEDICATION FOR DEPRESSION.

SO SOMETIME THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT THE FOUGHT IN TERMS OF THE PAST DEPENDENCY, WELL, ONE IN THREE AMERICANS WILL HAVAL COGNITIVE DISEASE.

THERE ARE WE SHOULD BUILD MORE HOSPITALS OF LOCKED WAFRRD.

SO TO ME, THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST EYE-OPENING EXPERIENCES.

ENTIRE JOURNEY.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TECH.

YOU SHOWED PEOPLE A COMPANY THAT IS GROWING MUSHROOMS TO SCALE?

HUGE VOLUMES?

WHAT WERE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S MOST SURPRISED YOU.

WHAT WAS IT THAT MADE YOU SAY, THIS HAS POTENTIAL.

>> YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THEM ALREADY.

WE WENT TO A COMPANY THAT IS LITERALLY GROWING PLUSH ROOMS INTO, YOU KNOW, PALGING AND ALSO A FORM OF MUSHROOM LEATHER AND EVEN MAKING BACON OUT OF IT.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS GROWING THE THICKER PART.

NOT THE MUSHROOM YOU GET ON YOUR PIZZA WHICH IS WHAT I THOUGHT GOING INTO IT.

IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE PLYWOOD, 8 X 4 SLABS.

IT IS BASICALLY A MUSHROOM GROWING FACILITY.

THEY CUT IT INTO SLABS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE FOIRNLD SAID TO ME, LOOK, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING RELATIVELY SIMPLE THINGS WITH THIS.

BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE US CREATING BASICALLY BRICKS TO CREATE BUILDINGS OUT OF.

BUT INSIDE THE BRICKS ARE TINY MAKE ROW SATCHELS OF WATER.

AND AS THE MUSHROOM MATERIAL IS DEHYDRATING BUT NOT DEAD, IF THERE WAS A DISTURBANCE TO THE BUILDING, THE MICRO SATCHELS WOULD BREAK OPEN AND THE BRICKS WOULD GROW THEMSELVES BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.

SO THIS IDEA OF USING WHAT THE EARTH HAS BEEN DOING FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS TO HELP US ADVANCE AS A SOCIETY, AS A SPECIES IN A WAY THAT HAS A DRAMATICALLY LESS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

IT IS KIND OF COOL.

AND SOME OF THE MUSHROOM BUILDINGS WILL BE ABLE TO CLEAN AIR.

>> ONE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES YOU PROFILED, 3D PRINTED HOMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY HERE ON EARTH TODAY.

THE SAME TECHNOLOGY IS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT END UP USING ON THE MOON OR ON MARS SOMEWHERE IN OUR LIFETIMES.

IT IS AND STUNNING TO ME TO WATCH AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY GO UP IN TWO TO FOUR WEEKS PER HOME.

>> YEP, I MET WITH MELODY OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN.

THEY'RE BUILDING THE WORLD'S LARGEST COMMUNITY OF 3D PRINTED HOMES.

IN SOME WAYS, THIS IS STILL A BETA PROJECT.

BUT LITERALLY, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN A 3D PRINTER, SMALL.

YOU PUT IT ON YOUR DESK.

YOU MIGHT MAKE SOMETHING REALLY COOL FOR YOUR KIDS.

A KEY CHAIN.

IMAGINE THAT THE SIZE OF A HOME.

WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE SHOW IS IT IS GOING BACK AND FORTH.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE THICKEST TOOTH PASTE YOU'VE EVER SEEN.

THE KIND YOU WOULD PUT ON AN ELEPHANT TOOTHBRUSH.

WHAT THEY ARE DOING OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL DAYS IS PRINTING A HOME.

NOW, ON PLANET EARTH, WE HAVE SEVERAL BILLION UNHOUSED PEOPLE.

MANY OF THEM IN ECOSYSTEMS WHERE THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE EFFECTS AND IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

WHERE TIMBER IS HARD TO COME BY.

WHERE BRICKS ARE EXPENSIVE.

SO WE LOOK AT 3D PRINTING.

YEAH.

IT'S SUPER COOL.

AT THE SAME TIME, I COULD PROVIDE THE ABILITY TO HOUSE BASICALLY THE REST OF HUMANITY IN A WAY WE AREN'T ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW.

AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE TAKING THAT WORK AND THAT RESEARCH AND WORKING WITH JPL AND NASA TO THINK AND LOOK, WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE ON THE MOON?

OR ON MARS?

>> IT IS A LEADING CONTENDER IN IN-SPACE CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THE PREMISE FOR 3D PRINTING IN SPACE IS THAT WE WOULD USE LOCAL AND INDIGENOUS MATERIALS ON THE SURFACE OF THE PLANET RATHER THAN BRINGING ANYTHING WITH US FROM EARTH.

THAT'S A REAL HIGH IMPACT CONCEPT.

IT IS PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE TO LAUNCH HEAVY MATERIALS FROM EARTH TO SPACE.

AND IT IS NOT GOING TO ENABLE US TO CREATE THE KINDS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, SMALL CITIES AND SETTLEMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN SCIENCE FICTION IMAGES FOR DECADES IN THE PAST.

SO NASA IS REALLY INTERESTED IN OTHER AEROSPACE COMPANIES ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS IDEA OF USING THE SOIL LOCAL TO THE MOON AND MARS, AND SENDING UP A SINGLE 3D PRINTING ROBOT THAT CAN LEVERAGE THAT SOIL AND THOSE MATERIALS TO 3D PRINT REALLY ANY KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE, ANY KIND OF SURFACE ELEMENT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CREW.

>> NOT UNTIL LATE IN THE SERIES DID I REALIZE, YOU HAD ACCESS TO ONE OF THE WORLD'S GREATEST FOOTBALL -- SOCCER PLAYERS.

AND I REALIZED HE'S AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER ON THE SHOW.

THEN I REALIZED DRAKE, LIKE THE SINGER, DRAKE IS ALSO AN E.P.?

HOW IS THIS UNLIKELY TRIO INVOLVED?

WHAT IS THEIR INTEREST IN THE FUTURE OR THIS PROGRAM?

>> IT'S MORE THAN A TRIO.

IT IS A QUAD, RIGHT?

WE HAVE KATHERINE MURDOCH WHO HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE DEMOCRACY LANDSCAPE, AND THEN WE HAVE DRAKE.

SO VERY EARLY ON, WHEN I WAS CREATING THE SHOW, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE, IF YOU WILL, OUR KITCHEN CABINET, WERE BRINGING VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES IN TERMS OF HOW WE THINK ABOUT TOMORROW.

SO LET'S START HERE.

FIRST, WHAT AN AMAZING HUMAN BEING.

I CONSIDER MYSELF LUCKY TO BE ALIVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I GET TO SEE THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE AMAZING THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH OUR SPECIES.

AND I GET TO WATCH HIM PLAY FOOTBALL AND SOCCER.

ONE OF THE REASONS HE'S IN THE SHOW, HE TALKS ABOUT THE ROLE AND VISION.

AND THIS WILL SOUND VERY OBVIOUS.

LET'S JUST HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

WHEN HE TAKES A PENALTY KICK, HE DOESN'T ENVISION HIMSELF MISSING THE GOAL.

IT IS VERY SIMPLE.

BALL.

HE KICKS.

IT GOES IN THE BACK.

NET.

THAT'S HOW HE SCORES.

>> YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, NOW IS THE PRESENT.

YOU LET THE FUTURE COME IN YOUR MIND.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE PENALTY IS TO BE IN THE MOMENT.

AND YOU GO WITH THE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU'LL SCORE.

THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION.

>> I ASSUME YOU DON'T VISUALIZE YOU MISSING THE GOAL.

>> NO.

NEVER.

THAT CAN HAPPEN BUT NEVER.

IF YOU VISUALIZE IT, UYOU LOSE 50% OF YOUR CONFIDENCE AND YOU NEED 100% OF YOUR CONFIDENCE TO SCORE A GOAL.

>> THE REALITY IS AS A SOCIETY, AS A SPECIES, WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T HAD THE CONVERSATION FOR QUITE SOME TIME IF EVER ABOUT WHAT IS OUR GOAL?

TO WHAT END?

IN MANY WAYS, THIS IS NOT GLOBALLY.

BUT THE QUESTION BECOMES, WHAT DO WE ENVISION FOR OUR FAR FUTURES?

I SAID EARLIER, THINKING WE'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE EIGHTH.

NOW I THINK WE'RE AT THE TOP OF THE FIRST.

USING A BASEBALL METAPHOR, WHAT DO THE NINE INNINGS LOOK LIKE?

WHAT COULD THE NEXT FIVE, TEN, 50,000 YEARS LOOK LIKE?

IT'S HAVING A STRONG VISION OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN.

THIS MIGHT SOUND NEW AGE.

WE HAVE THE GREATEST SOCCER PLAYER ON EARTH TELLING US, IF YOU WANT TO SUCCEED, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

>> THE PROGRAM IS CALLED "A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE FUTURE."

THANK YOU.

>>> AND FINALLY, WE CELEBRATE SOMEONE LOU HAS SPENT THEIR LIFE FIGHTING FOR THE FUTURE OF THE NATURAL WORLD.

JANE GOODALL TURNED 90 THIS WEEK.

SHE IS CONSIDERED THE WORLD'S FOREMOST EXPERT ON CHIMPANZEES.

SHE'S BROKEN COUNTLESS BARRIERS FOR WOMEN AS WELL.

THE 2017 NATIONAL GEE GRAPHIC DOCUMENTARY "JANE" TOLD HER STORY THROUGH INCREDIBLE ARCHIVE FOO FOOTAGE.

>> DAY AFTER DAY, IN THE SUN AND THE WIND AND THE RAIN, I CLIMBED INTO THE HILLS.

THIS WAS WHERE I WAS MEANT TO BE.

♪ >> CHRISTIANE SPOKE TO HER IN 2017 JUST BEFORE THE FILM'S RELEASE.

>> IT TAKES ME BACK TO THOSE DAYS MORE THAN ANY OTHER DOCUMENTARY THAT I'VE SEEN.

I'M RELIVING THOSE DAYS.

THE BEST DAYS OF MY LIFE.

AND IT IS BECAUSE IT IS NOT AS IT WAS.

AND IT SHOWS ALL THE BANANA FEEDING AND THE CONTACT WITH THE CHIMPS WHICH TODAY WE KNOW IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE DONE BECAUSE CHIMPANZEES CAN CATCH OUR DISEASES.

BUT BACK THEN WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

AND IT IS JUST, I RELIVE THAT MAGIC TIME WHEN CHIMPS HAD BEEN RUNNING AWAY FROM ME, NOW ALLOWING ME TO ACTUALLY PLAY WITH THEM.

>> WELL, WE HAVE TO BRING IN THE SINGULAR ACHIEVEMENT OF YOUR DISCOVERY.

THAT IS HOW CLOSE YOU GOT TO THEM.

FOR HOW LONG YOU OBSERVED THEM.

AND YOU DISCOVERED THAT NO, WE HUMANS WERE NOT NOOK IN A CERTAIN ASPECT, WHICH IS ABOUT TOOLS.

LET'S LISTEN TO THAT.

>> IT HAD LONG BEEN THOUGHT THAT WE WERE THE ONLY CREATURES ON EARTH THAT USED AND MADE TOOLS.

MAN, THE TOOL MAKER, IS HOW WE WERE DEFINED.

BUT HERE WAS DAVID USING THE TOOL.

IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE WHAT I HAD SEEN.

A FEW DAYS LATER, I WATCHED, SPELLBOUND.

PICKED A SMALL LEAFY TWIG AND STRIPPED IT OF ITS LEAVES.

THAT WAS OBJECT MODIFICATION.

THE BEGINNING OF TOOL-MAKING.

IT HAD NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE.

>> IT IS EXTRAORDINARY, WHAT YOU SAID AT THE END.

THAT IT HAD NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE.

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO DISCOVERED THIS.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT NOW, ALL THESE DECADES LATER, HOW DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL?

>> WELL, IT MAKES ME FEEL HOW ARROGANT SCIENCE WAS TO MAINTAIN THAT WE WERE THE ONLY -- I MEAN, THEY TOLD ME WHEN I WENT TO CAMBRIDGE TO GET THE DEGREE THAT ONLY HUMANS HAD PERSONALITY.

ONLY HUMANS HAD MINDS CAPABLE OF PROBLEM-SOLVING.

ONLY HUMANS HAD EMOTIONS.

HOW ARROGANT OF US.

>> YOU WERE A VERY YOUNG GIRL WHO CAME AND WAS GIVEN THIS TASK OF OBSERVING THE CHIMPS.

YOU WERE NOT A UNIVERSITY GRADUATE.

YOU WERE NOT A SCIENTIST.

AND YOU COME BACK WITH THIS REVELATION.

HOW DID YOU STICK TO YOUR GUNS?

DID PEOPLE SAY, EXCUSE ME?

WHO ARE YOU?

>> THE SCIENTISTS DID.

AND UNFORFORTUNATELY, I LOVED AS ALL MY LIFE.

I HAD AN AMAZING SUPPORTIVE MOTHER AND I HAD A GREAT TEACHER WHEN I WAS A CHILD WHO TAUGHT ME ABSOLUTELY, THESE PROFESSORS AT CAMBRIDGE MADE ME VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND LEARNED AND ERUDITE.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMAL PERSONALITY, MIND AND EMOTION, THEY'RE WRONG.

AND THAT WAS MY DOG.

>> THERE IS A SEGMENT IN THIS FILM THAT IS ENOUGH TO MAKE EVEN THE HARDEST HEART WEEP.

THAT'S WHEN THE ELDERLY FEMALE, FLO, DIES EVENTUALLY, AND HER SON FLINT JUST CANNOT, CANNOT ACCEPT THAT.

TAKE THE STORY FURTHER.

>> HE WAS TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON HER.

EVEN THOUGH HE WAS 6, 7 YEARS OLD, STILL RIDING ON HER BACK.

STILL SLEEPING IN THE NEST WITH HER AT NIGHT.

STILL TRYING TO EAT.

HE WAS LIKE A CHILD FALLING INTO DEEP, DEEP DEPRESSION.

AND HE DIDN'T EAT AND GOT SICK AND HE DIED.

AND IT WAS ONE OF THE SADDEST TIMES WATCHING HIM.

BECAUSE I HAD KNOWN HIM SINCE A TINY BABY.

>> WE'RE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS AN EPA ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS LOOKING TO TURN THE CLOCK BACK.

THEY HAVE SCIENTISTS WHO ESSENTIALLY DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE.

THAT ARE NOT LOOKING TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE WAY THAT YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE PROTECTED.

HOW MUCH OF A MORTAL THREAT, OR A PLANETARY THREAT DO YOU THINK WE'RE UNDER RIGHT NOW?

>> IT'S A HUGE THREAT.

YOU KNOW, THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND CHIMPANZEES IS THE EXPLOSIVE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR INTELLECT.

HOW IS THAT IT THE MOST INTELLECTUAL BEING TO EVER WALK THE PLANET IS DESTROYING ITS ONLY HOME?

>> I WANT TO REWIND THE CLOCK TO AROUND 1957, OR THE LATE '50s WHEN YOU WENT TO AFRICA TO WORK FOR THE GREAT PRIMATOLOGIST, LOUIS LEAKEY.

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN AND HOW WERE YOU EMPLOYED WITHOUT A SCIENCE BACK GROUND?

>> WHEN I WAS 10 I READ TARZAN AND FELL IN LOVE.

WHAT DID HE DO?

HE MARRIED THE WRONG JANE.

I WAS REALLY JEALOUS.

BUT THAT'S WHEN I DECIDED, I'M GOING TO GROW UP, LIVE IN AFRICA AND WRITE BOOKS ABOUT THE ANIMALS.

>> THERE WEREN'TFULLY GIRLS DOING THAT.

>> NONE.

>> THERE'S AN AMAZING PICTURE.

BEFORE WE WENT ON, UP THERE YOU HAVE MY LEGS.

YOUR COVER GIRL LEGS.

YOU SAID THERE ARE MY COVER GIRL LEGS.

WERE YOU -- DID YOU GET A LOT OF THAT KIND OF GUNFIRE, FOR YOUR LOOKS, YOUR LEGS?

>> YEFRL THERE WERE PEOPLE SAYING, SHE'S ONLY FAMOUS BECAUSE OF HER LEGS.

SHE'S A GEOGRAPHIC COVER GIRL.

WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANYTHING SERIOUSLY.

BUT THEN GEOGRAPHIC SENT OUT THE PHOTOGRAPHER TO TAKE THE FILM SO IT WAS PROOF THAT I WAS NOT TELLING LIES.

THE CHIMPANZEES WERE USING TOOLS.

THEY WERE MAKING TOOLS.

THEY WERE DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT I DESCRIBED.

>> AND LUGO WAS THE PREEMINENT WILDLIFE PHOTOGRAPHER AT THE TIME.

AND YOU FELL IN LOVE.

>> WE FELL IN LOVE.

IT WAS NOT SURPRISING.

HE WAS A GENTLE PERSON.

HE LOVED ANIMALS.

HE HAD ALWAYS WANTED TO FILM IN THE NATURAL WORLD.

SO THERE WE WERE TOGETHER.

IT WAS A PERFECTIONIST.

HE DROVE ME NUTS.

I WOULD SAY, HUGO, LOOK, NORFOLK BELIEVES THE CHIMPS DO THIS.

I CAN'T FILM IT BECAUSE THE EXPOSURE WILL BE WRONG.

>> AND WHAT DO YOU HOPE THIS FILM DOES?

I HOPE THAT IT WILL INSPIRE A WHOLE NEW GENERATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW BEAUTIFUL THE NATURAL WORLD IS.

HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SAVE IT.

IF IT IS NECESSARY, OKAY, LEARN THE SCIENCE SO THAT YOU CAN FIGHT THE CLIMATE DENIERS.

>> ON THAT NOTE, JANE GOODALL, KEEP UP THE GOOD NIGHT.

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