>> Braude: TONIGHT ON "GREATER BOSTON": AS THE U.S.

RACES FORWARD WITH VACCINATIONS, WITH NEARLY HALF OF ALL ADULTS AT LEAST PARTIALLY VACCINATED, MUCH OF THE REST OF THE WORLD, PARTICULARLY THE POORER PARTS, IS LAGGING FAR BEHIND.

AND THE LONGER THE WAIT, THE GREATER THE CARNAGE TO HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS AROUND THE WORLD.

THE DIRECTOR OF HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL'S GLOBAL PUBLIC POLICY AND SOCIAL CHANGE PROGRAM, DR. VANESSA KERRY, JOINS ME.

THEN, LATER, ONE OF THE CREATIVE LEADERS BEHIND THE CITY'S NEW "ALL-INCLUSIVE BOSTON" MARKETING CAMPAIGN, COLLETTE PHILLIPS, IS HERE.

AND, FINALLY, THE BARNACLE BROTHERS, THE FILMMAKERS BEHIND A NEW NETFLIX DOCUSERIES ON THE BIGGEST ART HEIST THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN, THE 1990 ROBBERY OF THE ISABELLA STEWART GARDNER MUSEUM, STILL UNSOLVED 30 YEARS LATER, BUT MAYBE WITH A CLUE OR TWO AS TO WHODUNIT.

>>> CITIES AND STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE STARTING TO EXPAND VACCINE ELIGIBILITY TO EVERYONE 16 YEARS AND OLDER, INCLUDING MICHIGAN, FLORIDA, MARYLAND, AND TENNESSEE.

BUT IN THIS STATE, THAT MILESTONE IS STILL NEARLY TWO WEEKS AWAY, A DECISION GOVERNOR CHARLIE BAKER DEFENDED AT A PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY.

>> THERE'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE A PROCESS HERE.

MOST OF THE STATES WHERE EVERYONE'S ELIGIBLE, WE VACCINATED A GREATER PORTION OF OUR POPULATION THAN THEY HAVE.

IT'S JUST THAT WE VACCINATED MORE OF WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE FOLKS WHO ARE MOST AT RISK TO SUFFER HOSPITALIZATION OR WORSE WHEN IT COMES TO COVID.

IT IS A LIMITED SUPPLY PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE CRITERIA IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IF YOU CUT THE LINE AND YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE, YOU'RE BASICALLY TAKING A VACCINE AWAY FROM SOMEONE WHO IS VULNERABLE.

YESTERDAY THE WHITE HOUSE ADOPTED THE SAME TIMEFRAME FOR ALL OTHER STATES TO EXPAND THEIR ELIGIBILITY, TOO, SOMETHING PRESS SECRETARY JEN PSAKI SAID THE COUNTRY WILL HAVE ENOUGH DOSES FOR.

>> WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE THERE ARE ENOUGH -- THERE'S ENOUGH SUPPLY, THERE ARE ENOUGH VACCINATORS, THERE ARE ENOUGH VACCINATION SITES THAT EVERY AMERICAN ADULT IS ELIGIBLE APRIL 19th.

>> Braude: IN THE COMING MONTHS, THE U.S. IS ON TRACK TO HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH DOSES FOR EVERY AMERICAN ADULT TO BE VACCINATED BY A LOT, AND THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DISCUSSED SHARING THAT SURPLUS WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD.

BUT SO FAR, IT'S NOT CLEAR WHEN THAT COULD HAPPEN OR WHO WOULD BE ON THE RECEIVING END.

FOR MUCH OF THE WORLD, THAT KIND OF VACCINE SUPPLY IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT, AND DUKE'S GLOBAL HEALTH INNOVATION CENTER ESTIMATES THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH DOSES TO COVER THE WORLD'S POPULATION UNTIL AT LEAST 2023.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, THE TOLL OF COVID IS REACHING STAGGERING NEW HIGHS, PARTICULAR AMONG HEALTH CARE WORKERS.

ACCORDING TO A REPORT FROM AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL, 17,000 DOCTORS, NURSES, SOCIAL CARE WORKERS, AND OTHER HEALTH CARE STAFF DIED OF COVID AS OF THE BEGINNING OF LAST MONTH.

AS MY NEXT GUEST WROTE IN A CNN OP-ED, THAT WORKS OUT TO ONE DEATH EVERY 30 MINUTES.

AND SHE GOES ON TO SAY: "A HOLLOWED-OUT HEALTH CORPS WILL HAUNT SOCIETIES LONG AFTER COVID-19 BECOMES A BITTER MEMORY."

DR. VANESSA KERRY IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE GLOBAL PUBLIC POLICY AND SOCIAL CHANGE PROGRAM AT HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL, A PHYSICIAN AT MASS GENERAL HOSPITAL, AND THE C.E.O.

OF THE NON-PROFIT SEED GLOBAL HEALTH, WHICH HAS TRAINED AND SUPPORTED FRONTLINE HEALTH CARE WORKERS IN PLACES LIKE UGANDA AND SIERRA LEONE.

>> Braude: DOCTOR, IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> Doctor: THANK YOU.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE ON WITH YOU TONIGHT.

>> Braude: WE IN THIS COUNTRY TEND TO BE LASER FOCUSED ON OURSELVES, AND IN SOME DAYS, CHINA, BUT GIVE US A SENSE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE VACCINE FRONT IN THE PART OF THE WORLD WHEN YOU SPEND MUCH OF YOUR TIME WORKING.

>> Doctor: ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK COVID-19 HAS REALLY SHOWN ALL OF US OUR COLLECTIVE VULNERABILITY.

AND IT HAS ALSO EXPOSED THE DEEP INEQUITIES THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR YEARS BOTH HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, WHERE WE HAVE SEEN JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS, BUT PEOPLE OF COLOR, ESSENTIAL WORKERS, HAVE BEEN INFECTED AT FAR HIGHER RATES, AND HAVE HIGHER DEATH RATES, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RATE OF VACCINATION, 71% OF THOSE VACCINATED IN THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS ARE WHITE, FOR EXAMPLE.

BUT THOSE INEQUITIES PERSIST PROFOUNDLY GLOBALLY AS WELL.

AND IN 2021, IT IS REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY UNACCEPTABLE THAT THERE ARE SUCH DESPERATE LEVELS OF CARE, AND PEOPLE ARE STILL DYING OF THINGS THAT ARE VERY PREVENTABLE.

IN COVID, THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE AROUND THE WORLD, WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE VULNERABILITIES OF HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS.

WHERE WE WORK IN SUB SUB SAHARA AFRICA, IN SOME COUNTRIES IT IS AS LOW AS TWO PHYSICIANS FOR SAFER EVERY 10,000 PEOPLE, BE IN THE UNITED STATES YOU'LL HAVE 30 PHYSICIANS FOR EVERY 10,000 PEOPLE OR ABOUT 900 NURSES FOR EVERY 10,000 PEOPLE.

SO THERE ARE VERY DIFFERENT NUMBERS.

THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T TREAT DISEASE OR CARE FOR PATIENTS, WHETHER IT IS COVID, NON-COMMUNICABLE DISEASES -- PEOPLE DIE UNNECESSARILY WITHOUT THE HEALTH CARE WORKFORCE.

>> Braude: AND YOU NEED PEOPLE TO ADMINISTER THE VACCINE.

TO STAY ON THE VACCINE FOR A SECOND, THIS COVAX THING IS WELL-INTENDED, BUT WHEN I CHECKED EARLIER THIS MORNING, SO FAR THEY HAVE DISPERSED 30 MILLION DOSES TO 86 COUNTRIES, THAT IS LESS THAN A HALF MILLION DOSES PER COUNTRY, WHICH IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

AND WHILE THE U.S. HAS MADE A COMMITMENT, SO FAR IT IS A RHETORICAL COMMITMENT AND A FINANCIAL ONE, NOT A SPECIFIC ONE IN TERMS OF DOSES AND WHEN.

SO IS HELP ON THE WAY OR NO?

>> Doctor: THIS IS A REAL ISSUE.

FOR EVERY DOLLAR BY DONOR COUNTRY FOR A VACCINE DOSE, IT IS ABOUT $5 NEEDED IN DELIVERY COSTS, AND THOSE COSTS ARE NOT BEING ADEQUATELY PROVIDED FOR.

THE OTHER ISSUE THAT IS HAPPENING, WHEN THE COVID DOSES ARE HITTING THE TARMAC, EVEN THE DOSES THAT THERE ARE, THERE IS NO SUPPORT FROM THAT POINT ON.

SO IT KIND OF HITS THE GROUND AND IT HAS TO BE TAKEN OVER BY THE COUNTRY THERE.

THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR FOLKS TO ALLOCATE THE HEALTH CARE WORKFORCE TO HELP DELIVER THOSE VACCINES.

BUT YOU'RE PULLING THAT HEALTH CARE WORKFORCE FROM OTHER SECTORS.

WE'VE SEEN FOR EBOLA AND THINGS, YOU HAVE TO MORE DEATHS FROM OTHER CAUSES THAN THE PANDEMIC ITSELF BECAUSE YOU END UP MOVING ALL OF THE RESOURCES THERE.

THE AMOUNT OF VACCINE AVAILABLE IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD.

THIS PANDEMIC IS ON COURSE TO END IN THREE YEARS IF WE ARE VACCINATING THE RATE WE'RE VACCINATING GLOBALLY.

THE FAILURE TO VACCINATE OTHER COUNTRIES MEANS A RISE OF VARIANTS, WHICH COULD EVENTUALLY ESCAPE THE VACCINES TODAY WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO VACCINATE PEOPLE FOR.

OUR PERSONAL SECURITY AND NATIONAL SECURITY IS HEALTH SECURITY.

RIGHT NOW THE KEY TO THAT IS A VACCINE, AND ALSO ABOUT BUILDING THE CAPACITY TO DELIVER TO VACCINE AND TO PREVENT DEATH IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM THAT ISN'T JUST COVID.

SO IT IS COMPLEX.

THE APPOINTMENT OF GAIL SMITH TO HELP THINK THROUGH HOW WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER VACCINES TO OTHER COUNTRIES IS TERRIFIC.

SHE IS AN OUTSTANDING ADVOCATE WITH MANAGING THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS, AND I THINK A POSITION LIKE THAT IN OUR GOVERNMENT IS CRITICAL.

JAY SULLIVAN SAID OF THE $4 BILLION PLEDGED TOWARDS COVAX, $2 BILLION BE BE WILL BE FOR BUILDING CAPACITY.

BUT THEY NEED TO THINK VERY HOLISTICALLY ABOUT TRAINING THE HEALTH CARE WORKFORCE TO HELP THEM WITH DELIVERING CARE.

>> Braude: SPEAKING OF CAPACITY, DOCTOR, WHEN YOU WROTE IN THE CNN PIECE ABOUT THE DEATH TOLL, WHICH WAS FAR IN EXCESS OF WHAT I IMAGINED, AND YOU LOOK AT THE UNITED STATES WITH ALL OF ITS WEALTH, TWO-THIRDS OF HEALTH CARE WORKERS, 62%, ACTUALLY, HAS IDENTIFIED MENTAL HEALTH DEGENERATION, FOR LACK OF A BETTER EXPRESSION, DURING THE TIME THEY'VE CARED FOR COVID PATIENTS.

THAT IS HAPPENING HERE IN THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

SO IT SEEMS THE HUMAN HEALTH CARE INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY, IF THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE SETTING, IS ALSO LACKING, IS IT NOT?

>> Doctor: I MEAN, I THINK JUST TO ADDRESS THE FIRST PIECE OF IT, 17,000 HEALTH CARE WORKERS TO SOME DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT.

BUT THEY IMPACT HUNDREDS AND MILLIONS OF LIVES.

>> Braude: OF COURSE.

>> Doctor: AND EQUALLY, THE TIME, EFFORT AND INVESTMENT TO TRAIN THOSE INDIVIDUALS IS YEARS.

SO THE LOSS IS PROFOUND.

TO GET TO THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, I MEAN, THE TOLL THAT THIS PANDEMIC HAS TAKEN HAS NOT JUST BEEN DEATHS.

IT HAS BEEN BURNOUT, EXHAUSTION.

WE ARE NOT INVESTING IN SUPPORTING THE EXISTING WORKFORCE ENOUGH, LET ALONE INVESTING IN THE FUTURE WORKFORCE.

I THINK PEOPLE EQUALLY UNDERESTIMATE HOW IMPORTANT THIS PIECE IS.

WE CONSTANTLY LOOK TO TECHNOLOGY TO LEAP-FROG THESE PANACEAS TO SOLVE HEALTH PROBLEMS.

HEALTH CARE IS A HUMAN-CENTERED INTERVENTION.

IT CAN BE AUGMENTED BY TECHNOLOGY AND AUGMENTED BY A.I., BUT YOU NEED A HUMAN TOO TOUCH.

YOU NEED TO TAKE THE ENTIRETY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE PATIENTS AND BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED OFF THAT.

I THINK THAT WE WILL -- AND YOU -- THE CORE OF WHAT THE HEALTH CORE WILL DO FOR US, IT WILL FUNDAMENTALLY AFFECT THESE PANDEMIC, H.I.V., MATERNAL MORALITY, AND ALL OF THE THINGS WE'RE DYING OF DAILY.

>> Braude: I ONLY HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT, BUT THESE INEQUITIES AROUND THE WORLD EXISTED LONG BEFORE COVID.

DO YOU BELIEVE THE SPOTLIGHT THAT HAS BEEN SHINED ON THEM AS A RESULT OF COVID WILL MEAN THEY'LL BE ADDRESSED POST-COVID OR IS THIS JUST ONE AND DONE AND WE GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE?

>> Doctor: I'M AN OPTIMIST AT ALL TIMES.

I'M VERY HOPEFUL, AND TOMORROW I'LL BE GIVING A BRIEFING TO CONGRESS.

BUT WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP ADVOCATING AND REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE.

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHIFT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT FOR IT.

>> Braude: DR. KERRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.

>> Braude: PEOPLE OF COLOR MAKE UP MORE THAN HALF OF BOSTON'S POPULATION, BUT A RECENT REPORT COMMISSIONED BY FORMER MAYOR MARTY WALSH FOUND THE CITY AWARDED LESS THAN 1% OF ITS PRIME CONTRACTS TO LATINX-OWNED BUSINESSES OVER HIS FIRST TERM, LESS THAN 0.5% TO BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES, AND SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 1% TO ASIAN-AMERICAN-OWNED BUSINESSES.

BUT WALSH'S SUCCESSOR, ACTIG MAYOR KIM JANEY, WHO JUST ANNOUNCED SHE'LL RUN FOR A FULL TERM THIS FALL, IS PLEDGING TO CHANGE THAT.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO CITY CONTRACTS, BUSINESS OWNERS OF COLOR ARE TOO OFTEN OVERLOOKED AND UNDERREPRESENTED.

THESE TROUBLING DISPARITIES ARE A RESULT OF DISCRIMINATORY POLICIES THAT WE HAVE ALL INHERITED, AND BOSTON NOW HAS A CHANCE TO DO BETTER AS WE RECOVER, REOPEN, AND RENEW OUR CITY.

>> Braude: TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT COMES JUST TWO DAYS AFTER A FIRST-OF-ITS-KIND MARKETING CAMPAIGN WAS ROLLED OUT ON MONDAY.

>> WHATEVER YOU SEEK, WHOEVER YOU ARE, THERE'S A PLACE FOR YOU HERE.

OUR DOORS ARE OPEN, OUR TABLES ARE SET.

THIS IS BOSTON, AND WE ARE ALL-INCLUSIVE.

>> Braude: APPROPRIATELY, THE CONTRACT FOR THE CAMPAIGN WENT TO ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT BLACK BUSINESS LEADERS IN THE CITY.

THAT WOULD BE COLLETTE PHILLIPS, THE PRESIDENT AND C.E.O.

OF COLLETTE PHILLIPS COMMUNICATIONS, INC., AND THE FOUNDER OF THE PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION "GET KONNECTED," WHICH PUTS OUT AN ANNUAL LIST OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE OF COLOR IN BOSTON.

>> Braude: COLLETTE, IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON A REALLY EXCITING CAMPAIGN.

>> THANK YOU, JIM.

IT IS A VERY EXCITING CAMPAIGN.

AND I'M SO PLEASED, DELIGHTED TO HAVE BEEN AWARDED THIS CONTRACT AND TO HAVE PARTNERED WITH BRILLIANT BRANDING AND MARKETING AND CREATIVE COMPANY "PROVERB," ALSO BLACK-OWNED, AND THE GREATER BOSTON CONVENTION AND VISITORS' BUREAU.

ALL THREE OF US GOT TOGETHER, WITH MY COMPANY BEING THE LEAD AGENCY.

>> Braude: WHAT DID YOU SET OUT TO DO?

WHAT WAS THE GOAL WHEN YOU STARTED PUTTING THIS THING TOGETHER?

>> WELL, THE TRUTH BE TOLD, LET ME JUST SAY THAT THIS IS NOT ONLY HISTORIC AND GROUNDBREAKING AND GAME-CHANGING, WE HAD 10 DAYS TO PUT THIS R.S.V.

TOGETHER, AND OUR MANDATE WAS MAYOR WALSH WANTED US TO INDICATE A CAMPAIGN THAT WOULD APPLY AND ATTRACT A BROAD RANGE OF DIVERSE VISITORS TO BSTON.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALL KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO COME THROUGH BOSTON TO THE VINEYARDS, TO THE CAPE, TO MAINE, BUT THEY DON'T COME TO BOSTON.

AND THAT'S LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE.

AND THE MAYOR WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE WERE ATTRACTING A BROAD RANGE OF VISITORS AS POSSIBLE.

>> Braude: YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS PAINFUL SURVEY THAT APPEARED IN "THE BOSTON GLOBE" IN 2017, IT WAS A SURVEY OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, OF EIGHT MAJOR AMERICAN CITIES.

WHAT DID YOU CONSIDER TO BE THE LEAST WELCOMING, AND BOSTON WAS NOT JUST THE LEAST WELCOMING, IT WAS THE LEAST WELCOMING BY A LOT.

YOU ADD TO THAT FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN, THE VISITORS' BREWER ROW DIDVISITORSBUREAU DID A SURVEY, AND THE PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY SAW BOSTON AS MALE-DOMINATED, RACIST,ARROGANT.

HOW CAN YOU BREAKTHROUGH A CONTEMPORARY PERCEPTION OF A CITY WITH A CAMPAIGN?

HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

>> WELL, I THINK YOU DO THAT BY ONE OF THE LINES THAT I LOVE IN THIS CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS: MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW BOSTON.

AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE LIVED HERE, WHO ARE OF COLOR, WHO HAVE SEEN BOSTON EVOLVE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT IN YOUR RESEARCH, WHICH FOUND THAT BOSTON WAS MALE-DOMINATED, UNWELCOME, PROVINCIAL, AND WE LITERALLY FEEL THAT THIS CAMPAIGN IS REALLY ABOUT SHOWING BOSTON AS A HIP, DIVERSE, YOU KNOW, YOUNG, VIBRANT TOWN, SO THAT IF YOU LIKE TRADITIONAL STUFF, YOU CAN GET THAT.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRY SOME ETHIOPIAN FOOD AT THE BLUE NILE OR GO TO URBAN GRAPE, YOU CAN DO THAT, TOO.

>> Braude: YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE CLEAR TO PEOPLE, THIS IS NOT JUST A FABULOUS AD.

THERE IS A WEBSITE I CHECKED OUT TODAY THAT IS TERRIFIC, WITH LINKS TO THINGS LIKE GUIDE TO BLACK BOSTON, LGBTQ BOSTON, OUTDOOR ART, AND A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS.

THIS IS A MULTI-MEDIA EFFORT, AND I ASSUME OTHER THINGS AS WELL, COLLETTE?

>> OTHER THINGS, YES.

THERE IS RADIO, THERE IS PRINT.

THERE IS ALL KINDS OF BILLBOARDS AND DIGITAL MEDIA.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THIS IS REALLY BRINGING BACK OUR TOURISM INDUSTRY, WHICH WAS DEVASTATED BY THE PANDEMIC, WITH A RACIAL EQUITY LENS.

84% OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THIS CAMPAIGN WERE COMPANIES THAT WERE PART BLACK, INDIGENOUS, LATINX, LGBTQ, I.A., AND WHITE AND WOMEN-OWNED.

SO WE REALLY MADE A CONSCIENCE, DELIBERATE, INTENTIONAL EFFORT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION WORKS, AND IT IS A WIN.

AND WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS IS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT A PRIME CONTRACTOR, BLACK, WOMAN, IMMIGRANT WAS ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER A DIVERSE CAMPAIGN FOR EVERYBODY.

>> Braude: BY THE WAY -- AND I'M SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE HISTORY WAS MADE TWICE WITH THIS CAMPAIGN.

ONE, THE CAMPAIGN ITSELF.

AND, TWO, THIS IS THE LARGEST CONTRACT AWARDED BY THE CITY TO A WOMAN OF COLOR, AND THAT WOULD BE YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Braude: YOU KNOW, I JUST -- WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG TO BEGIN TO MAKE PROGRESS IN A MAJORITY/MINORITY CITY, COLLETTE?

>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT HAS BAFFLED MANY OF US.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE NOW.

AND I HAVE TO GIVE SOME CREDIT TO MAYOR WALSH BECAUSE HE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE A CHANGE.

AND I THINK THE THING THAT YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN IS THE FACT THAT WE DID THIS WITHOUT EVER MEETING IN PERSON.

WE NEVER HAD AND IN-PERSON MEETING.

THE TEAM DID NOT MEET IN PERSON.

AND WE WERE VERY -- PART OF WHY WE WON THIS CONTRACT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD BY THE CITY, IS THAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO LET THIS CAMPAIGN BE ONE THAT WILL GIVE OPPORTUNITIES TO MANY SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.

THE PERSON WHO BUILT THAT WONDERFUL WEBSITE THAT YOU SAW IS A WOMAN -- A BLACK WOMAN WHO HAS A BUSINESS IN ROXBURY CALLED "INCLUDE."

HER NAME IS KRISTIN RANSOM, AND THE PHOTOGRAPHER WHO TOOK THE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES IS A BLACK PHOTOGRAPHER.

THE VIDEOGRAPHER WAS CHILEAN AND LGBTQ, AND THE VOICE YOU HEAR ON THAT BEAUTIFUL VIDEO IS ONE OF PORSCHE WACALOLA, WHO IS THE POET LAUREATE FOR BOSTON.

>> Braude: COLLETTE, I HOPE THIS IS A GAME--CHANGER,GAME-CHANGER IN TERMS OF THE CITY AND WHO GETS TO ESTABLISH THE CITY.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND ALL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES.

IT IS BRILLIANT, AWE-INSPIRING, AS ARE YOU.

IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU, COLLETTE.

>> THANK YOU, MY FRIEND.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, TOO.

>> Braude: NEXT UP, IT WAS LIKE A SCENE OUT OF A HOLLYWOOD BLOCKBUSTER.

HALF-PAST MIDNIGHT ON ST. PATRICK'S DAY IN 1990, WHEN MUCH OF BOSTON WAS STILL CELEBRATING, TWO THIEVES DRESSED UP AS POLICE OFFICERS AND MADE THEIR WAY INTO THE ISABELLA STEWART GARDNER MUSEUM AND WALKED OUT WITH A FORTUNE IN ART, NOW WORTH A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.

>> WE NOW KNOW THAT A LOT OF LOCAL WISE GUYS WERE SCOPING OUT THE MUSEUM.

THEY WERE CASING IT.

>> ANYBODY WHO WAS A THIEF, AN ART THIEF, NEW ABOUT THE GARDNER.

IT'S AN EASY, EASY SCORE, AS THEY SAY ON THE STREET.

>> Braude: IT'S THE BIGGEST ART HEIST THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN, AND 30 YEARS LATER, THE PAINTINGS, WHICH INCLUDE WORKS FROM DEGAS, MANET, AND THE ONLY REMBRANDT SEA SCAPE IN EXISTENCE, ARE STILL MISSING, AS ARE THE PERPETRATORS, DESPITE A $10 MILLION REWARD.

A NEW DOCUSERIES OUT TODAY ON NETFLIX FOLLOWS THE INVESTIGATION THROUGH THREE DECADES OF LEADS, LUCKY BREAKS, AND DEAD-ENDS.

IT'S CALLED "THIS IS A ROBBERY."

THE FILMMAKERS, NICK AND COLIN BARNICLE, JOIN ME.

>> Braude: CONGRATULATIONS, GENTLEMEN.

THE THING IS TOTALLY GREAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS, JIM.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>> Braude: SO THIS FILM, AND ITS DETAIL, LET'S FACE IT, IS THE WORK OF THE OBSESSED.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OF CERTAIN AGE IN BOSTON QUALIFY.

BUT I AM GUESSING THAT YOU GUYS WERE BARELY BORN WHEN THIS THING HAPPENED.

SO WHAT'S THE ALLURE.

NICK, STARTING WITH YOU.

>> I THINK WHAT YOU'LL LEARN AS WE ALLUDE TO IT THROUGH THE EPISODES, YOU ABSOLUTELY BECOME OBSESSED WITH THE WHO WHODUNIT.

AND FOLLOWING EACH CLUE TO ITS CONCLUSION.

AND COLIN DOES AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB OF PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

AND IN THE FOUR EPISODES, THERE IS SO MUCH INFORMATION COMING AT YOU THAT YOU CAN SEE WHY IT IS UNSOLVED.

BUT IN THE IND, IT END, IT WILL GIVE EVERYONE IN THE WORLD TO PUT THINGS TOGETHER AND MAYBE FIND THESE PAINTINGS.

>> Braude: COLIN, WHAT ABOUT YOU?

>> I WAS FOUR WHEN THIS HAPPENED.

[LAUGHTER] >> SO I FEEL LIKE EVEN FOR MY GENERATION, IT IS OBSESSIVE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT BOSTON OPERATES LIKE A SMALL TOWN.

EVERYBODY KNOWS EACH OTHER.

AND YOU FEEL LIKE THE POOL IS SO FINITE, THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT, WHERE IT WENT.

THERE ARE HALF A MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, METRO BOSTON, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS EACH OTHER.

IT IS ONE DEGREE.

SO IT IS ALMOST A FAMILIAL THING, WHERE YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOW THE PEOPLE OR HAVE HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

AND IT IS ALSO KIND OF THE OBESSIVE-COMPULSION OF ALMOST A A CHESS, THE BETTER YOU ARE AT CHESS, THE CRAZIER YOU GO, AND IT IS KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS CASE.

>> Braude: AS YOU SAID, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS, STILL UNSOLVED, AND WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A COUPLE OF SECONDS.

BUT THERE IS A THEORY WHICH I THINK IS QUITE CLEARLY TRUE, IF YOU DON'T SOLVE SOMETHING QUICKLY, IT IS LESS LIKELY IT EVER GETS SOLVED.

HERE IS KEVIN CULLEN FROM "THE BOSTON GLOBE" SPEAKING TO THAT EXACT ISSUE IN YOUR FILM.

>> PUT IT THIS WAY: BACK IN 1990, IF YOU'RE AN F.B.I.

AGENT, THE WAY YOU GET A PROMOTION OR RAISE IS THROUGH BIG MAFIA GIGS.

>> THE CULTURE HADN'T CHANGED.

THAT'S HOW YOU GOT YOUR NAME IN THE PAPER, HOW YOU GOT YOUR PEOPLE ON THE NEWS.

SOLVING AN ART THEFT VERSUS A MAFIA PROSECUTION IN 1990, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO GET MORE ATTENTION?

>> Braude: NICK, DO YOU BUY THAT THEORY, THAT THEY REALLY DIDN'T GIVE A DAM?

>> NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T GIVE A DAM, BUT AT THE TIME IN 1990, YOU'VE GOT THE F.B.I.

AND THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT NOT TALKING TO EACH OTHER.

WE HAVEN'T HAD THE RELATIONSHIP.

KEVIN, I THINK, NAILED IT -- THAT IS DOYLE, BY THE WAY, BEHIND HIM.

HE TALKS ABOUT THAT STRIKE AND THAT DISCONNECTION COMING RIGHT INTO THE INVESTIGATION AS THEY ENTER THE SCENE ON MARCH 18th.

IT IS A DISTURBED SCENE BY THE TIME THE F.B.I.

GETS THERE, AND THE BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE F.B.I.

HAVE SOME THINGS THEY NEED TO SORT OUT.

>> Braude: COLIN, I'M A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN YOU, TOO, AND I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS AS AN ADULT AS WELL.

THERE ARE THINGS BEYOND THE WHODUNIT AND WHERE ARE THE PAINTINGS THAT I'M OBSESSED WITH -- WHEN YOU ENTERED THIS THING, WAS THERE ONE THING, OTHER THAN WHODUNIT AND WHERE THE PAINTINGS ARE, THAT YOU REALLY WANTED TO EXPLORE?

AND HOW FAR DID YOU GET ON THAT THING?

>> YEAH, SO THE ONE THING WE COULD DO AND WANTED TO DO WAS GIVE A REAL INTIMATE PORTRAYAL OF THAT NIGHT, THE CRIME SCENE.

REALLY THE THREE HOURS WITHIN THE CRIME SCENE, FROM A LITTLE BEFORE MIDNIGHT TO A LITTLE AFTERWARDS.

THAT WAS KIND OF ONE OF OUR PRIMARY GOALS.

I THINK WE REALLY DID THAT PRETTY WELL.

WE REALLY SHED SOME LIGHT ON WHAT HAPPENED DURING THOSE 81 MINUTES WHERE THE ROBBERY IS OCCURRING.

BUT IN TERMS OF SPECIFICS, I THINK EVERYBODY IS KIND OF INTRIGUED WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BLUE ROOM, HOW IS IT THAT ONE OF THE GUARDS GOES THROUGH THERE AT 12:27 AND THAT'S IT.

I THINK THAT IS THE KIND OF MYSTERY WITHIN THE MYSTERY THAT KIND OF EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW.

THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER DETAILS WITHIN THAT NIGHT.

A FIRE ALARM GOING OFF.

A GLASS BREAK ALARM GOING OFF.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

ARE THOSE PARTS TO THE PUZZLE, OR ARE THOSE KIND OF RED HERRINGS?

THAT IS WHAT WE KIND OF WANTED TO FOCUS ON.

>> Braude: I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS 81 MINUTES THEY WERE IN THERE.

THEY TOOK THAT WORTHLESS THING ON TOP OF A FLAG AND THEY DIDN'T TAKE A REMBRANDT SELF-PORTRAIT WHEN IT IS SO WELL-PLANNED.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

NICK, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANYTHING AWAY YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY, BUT I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT MAYBE YOU DIDN'T ASSEMBLE ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR AN INDICTMENT AND A CONVICTION FOR A TRIAL, BUT IN THE END YOU CAME PRETTY CLOSE TO TELLING PEOPLE WHO YOU THOUGHT WERE BEHIND THIS.

HOW MUCH OF THAT DO YOU WANT TO SHARE TONIGHT?

>> WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TUNE IN AND WATCH THE WHOLE THING.

>> Braude: I KNOW, BUT GIVE ME A LITTLE SOMETHING, WILL YOU?

>> I THINK IN THE VERY END, YOU HAVE THE PIECES AS A VIEWER TO DRAW THE CONCLUSION.

IT IS A DOCUMENTARY.

THERE IS NO VOICE-OVER, WE'RE NOT IN IT.

THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF KISMIT.

THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT APPEAR IN THE FILM THAT WERE ABLE TO GET OUT OF JAIL WHILE WE WERE FILMING.

>> NOT BACK TO MASSACHUSETTS, THOUGH.

>> MAYBE NOT.

>> AND ALL OF THE PIECES ARE THERE TO PUT IT TOGETHER.

I THINK THAT WE DRAW A PRETTY DAM CLOSE CONCLUSION.

AND I THINK THE MOST EXCITING PART IS THERE IS A $10 MILLION AWARD AND THOSE PIECES ARE OUT THERE.

>> Braude: ARE WE EVER GOING TO SEE THESE PAINTINGS IN YOUR ESTIMATION?

I KNOW IT IS NOSTRADAMUS WORK -- >> I THINK THE 13 PIECES OF ART ARE SPLIT UP.

I THINK WE'LL SEE SOME OF THE PIECES OF ART MAYBE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AGAIN, THE POWER OF NETFLIX'S PLATFORM, EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD CAN SEE THIS.

WHO KNOWS WHERE THESE ARE, BUT THE BEST SHOT IS FOR THEM COMING BACK TO BOSTON.

>> Braude: COLIN, ARE YOU AS CONVINCED AS YOUR BROTHER THAT YOU IDENTIFIED THE PERPS?

>> YES.

WE WENT THROUGH HUNDREDS OF INTERVIEWS AND THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF COURTHOUSE DOCUMENTS.

WE VETTED EVERY SINGLE THEORY YOU COULD IN THIS FROM, FROM THE STRANGE TO THE WEIRD, TO THE LEAST PLAUSIBLE, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A FOUR-PART SERIES WHERE WE PUT DOWN ON RECORD WHAT WE THINK IS THE MOST PLAUSIBLE EVENTS OF THAT NIGHT AND WHO DID IT AND WHY THEY DID IT.

AND HOPEFULLY WEAR COMES OUT OF THIS.

IT'S THE LARGEST WANTED POSTER IN THE WORLD ON NETFLIX.

>> Braude: NO SPOILER HERE, BUT EVERYBODY AT HOME SHOULD BE WATCHING THIS THING.

GENTLEMEN, CONGRATULATIONS.

IT IS A GREAT PIECE OF WORK.

>> THANK YOU, JIM.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Braude: GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> Braude: THE SERIES, AGAIN, IS "THIS IS A ROBBERY: THE WORLDS BIGGEST ART HEIST."

YOU CAN WATCH IT NOW ON NETFLIX.

THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT, BUT COME BACK TOMORROW.

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