>> MARY: A REPORT OUT THIS WEEK FROM THE MCKINSEY GLOBAL INSTITUTE ESTIMATES THAT BY 2030, ADVANCES IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WILL AUTOMATE NEARLY 30% OF THE LABOR CURRENTLY DONE BY U.S. WORKERS.

THAT'S JUST THE LATEST EXAMPLE OF THE IMPACT THAT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE COULD HAVE ON OUR SOCIETY.

AS A.I.

CONTINUES TO EVOLVE, GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE GLOBE INCREASINGLY WRESTLE WITH THE BEST WAYS TO REGULATE THE TECHNOLOGY.

WE'RE JOINED NOW BY SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HIGHLY ENGAGED WITH THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

REPUBLICAN JIM NASH REPRESENTS THE WACONIA AREA IN THE MINNESOTA LEGISLATURE.

HE WORKS IN CYBER SECURITY AND HAS A STRONG INTEREST IN THE FUTURE OF TECHNOLOGY.

ARE YOU SCARED?

SHOULD WE BE AFRAID?

>> WELL, I DON'T EXPECT THIS TO BE SKY NET.

I DON'T EXPECT ARNOLD SOMEWHAT WARS NEGLECTER TO COME BACK AND -- NEED TO BE DEGREESED BY THOUGHTFUL LEGISLATORS BEFORE THIS BECOME THE 30% OF ALL WORK BEING DONE BY A.I.

I THINK THERE'S SOME REASONABLE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.

ACCOMPLISH A GOOD BALANCE.

>> Eric: WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE AT LEAST GOT A START WITH BANNING THE DEEM FABLING FAKES FOR, LIKE, NON-CONSENSUAL SEX AND TAMPERING WITH POLITICS, THAT KIND OF THING?

>> I THINK THAT THAT CONVERSATION IS AN INTERESTING ONE.

BUT YOU'RE QUITE HONESTLY JUST DIPPING YOUR TOE INTO THE WATER.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CAPABILITIES OUT THERE ARE STAGGERING.

PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THE LUD YIETS OF THE WORLD, WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S POSSIBLE.

GLA >> Mary: IS IT ART EVERYONE?

IS THIS GOING TO BE A BIPARTISAN, NONPARTISAN ?ISH >> I'LL TELL YOU THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED ME TO BE THE COMMISSIONER.

I DECLINED.

TO PPLY.

WE HAVE AS A RESULT OF -- >> Mary: LET'S JUST LET THAT SINK IN FOR A MINUTE.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY JUST THINKS -- >> SHE'S A FRIEND F MINE.

WE AGREE ON 11 THINGS.

BUT WE'RE GOOD -- BUT WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS THE GOVERNOR'S BLUE RIBBON COUNCIL ON I.T.

AND CYBER SECURITY THAT'S NOW MORPHED INTO THE TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND IT IS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT.

SO REPRESENTATIVE BAHNER AND I ARE REALLY IN LOCK-STEP ON THOSE THINGS.

SENATOR WIKLUND, SENATOR KORAN, WE'RE ALL VERY MUCH ON THE SAME PAGE.

WE ATTEND A LOT OF THE SAME CONFERENCES AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A.I.

AS WE SPEAK.

>> Eric: SHOW MOVING PACE OF THE LEGISLATURE IN NORM YEARS ANYWAY MAKES IT HARD TO KEEP TRACK, AHEAD OF IT.

>> WELL, YEAH, WE'RE NEVER ACTUALLY AHEAD OF ANYTHING.

REVISITED HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE DONE BILLS THAT YOU'VE COVERED IN THE PAST.

YOU CAN'T EVEN COUNT.

BUT I THINK ON THE A.I.

ISSUE, IT IS A VALUABLE TOOL.

AND AS LONG AS WE ARE ASSIGNING IT PARAMETERS AND IT'S LONG AS WE ARE UNDERSTANDING WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT, SO THAT THE DECISIONS THAT GET MADE BY A.I.

ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO INVESTIGATE, HOW DID WE ARRIVE AT THESE THINGS, WHAT WENT INTO ALLOWING THOSE A.I.

APPLICATIONS TO DO THOSE THINGS, THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF HE PIECES THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.

>> Eric: YOU'RE RUNNING FOR REELECTION?

>> YEAH.

>> Eric: OKAY.

ISN'T A.I.

GOING TO MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIGURE OUT IF AN ATTACK AD WAS ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED BY SOMEBODY OR SOMEBODY JUST -- OUT THE PICTURE -- SPLL >> GOOD CAMPAIGNER IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE CONNECTED TO THEIR DISTRICT AND PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND AND HAVE ACCESS.

FOR ME, I PUBLISH MY CELL PHONE TO THE INTERNET AND HAVE PEOPLE CALL ME.

>> Eric: BUT HOW DO WE WANT PEOPLE -- KIND OF A CONSUMER GUIDE, A VOTER GUIDE, JUDGE WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S A.I.

OR FAKE?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE CANDIDATES REALLY PUSH OUT THEIR PLATFORM AND SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JIM NASH, NOT SOMETHING THAT IS BEEN BEGINNED UP WITH THINGS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST BOTCHED UP TOGETHER.

AS TECHNOLOGY BECOMES MORE PROFICIENT, IT'S EASIER TO FAKE THINGS BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, A GOOD CAM CAMPAIGNER IS GOING TO BE OUT OF FRONT OF PEOPLE AND WILL BECOME ACCESSIBLE TO THE PRESS.

AND PEOPLE WILL SAY, HEY, THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU.

>> Mary: WHAT ABOUT THE PUBLIC SECT SECTOR ROLE VERSUS PRIVATE SECTOR?

INTERNATIONAL GROUPS HAVE?

WHOSE JOB SHIEFA?

>> GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK IF WE LOOK AT IT AS TO WHAT DOES THE STATE GOVERNMENT HAVE PURVIEW OVER, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD GET INTO.

>> Mary: LIKE WHAT?

>> WELL, SO I THINK ONE OF THE GOOD OCCASIONS FOR A.I.

COULD BE UNDERSTANDING TRAFFIC PATTERNS, UNDERSTANDING ACTION WITH A GOVERNMENT WHEN THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE NORMALLY GONE TO A -- AN ENTRY LEVEL PERSON WHO IS PROCESSING PAPERWORK -- >> Mary: YOU SAID QUANTITATIVE, NOT QUALITATIVE.

>> QUANTITATIVE WORK, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE QUESTIONING, WHEN YOU HAVE A PERSON WHO -- THE HUMAN MIND IS INFINITELY MORE COMPLEX THAN A COMPUTER CAN EVER ACHIEVE BECAUSE WE BRING VALUES TO THE EQUATION.

WE TALK ABOUT THE HUMANITY OF PEOPLE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE, A MACHINE CAN'T DO THAT.

>> Eric: WE MIGHT HAVE YOU ON SPEED DIAL AS WE TRAVERSE THIS GREAT JOURNEY.