[Cheering and applause] [Typewriter clacking] Dom Magwili: Jimmy Hong played Fred Eng, and Dana Lee played the father.

And they have this intense scene in the bathroom.

And Mako said, "Why don't you try it in Chinese?"

Both Jimmy and Dana are bilingual.

So they did the scene in Chinese, and it--it got personal.

[Typewriter clacking] Clyde: And Frank Chin and Mako, who was directing it, felt that Jimmy was missing something of it.

And everybody jumped on Jimmy's--what he's doing to the point where James was shocked and just let out a howl, howl.

James: And Frank Chin said, "James Hong, you're the worst actor I've ever seen for my role," you know?

Daniel: Ha ha!

James: And I was shocked because I wasn't expecting that.

But that's Frank Chin.

He says things like that, you know.

So I got all choked up, and I just had to walk out and excuse myself.

Mako on tape: Frank didn't like James Hong's Chinaman attitude, you know.

"You show me what you want me to do, I'll do it."

Frank is one of those guys, "You do what you want to do!"

[Woman laughing on tape] Mako: "Don't you have any fire as a Chinaman?"

Keone: The first people that formed East West Players, they were in the industry.

They were part of the industry.

They weren't allowed to be a part of it unless they serviced the industry.

And so I guess that conflict, you know, Jimmy did not know how to respond to that, and Frank did not know why Jimmy could not respond to that.

But there was a clash of servicing the master versus attacking the master.