REALLY COMMITTED TO OUR PATIENTS AND TO THEIR OWNERS.

>> A BIG SUITOUT TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.

THAT IS WONDERFUL.

>> YES.

>> LET'S GET INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON BECAUSE WE ARE IN IT.

HANDLING THE PETS IN HALLOWEEN AND ANY UPCOMING HOLIDAYS LIKE THE HALLOWEEN AND CHRISTMAS.

WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN AS HOLIDAY RELATED INCIDENTS?

ANYTHING THAT PET OWNERS SHOULD BE MORE MINDFUL OF DURING THE HOLIDAYS?

>> ESPECIALLY AROUND HALLOWEEN, THE TWO BIG THINGS ARE MAKING SURE THAT CAN DIFFICULT AND OTHER TREATS ARE SECURED FOR YOUR GETS.

WE SEE A LOT OF DOGS THAT GET INTO CHOCOLATE AND OTHER CONCERNING CANDICE DURING THE HALLOWEEN TIME.

AND ADDITIONALLY SECURING YOUR PETS WHEN YOU HAVE TRICK OR TREATERS ARRIVING SO THAT THEY ARE NOT TEMPTED TO DART OUT THE DOOR OR GET SCARED AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE DO SEE A LOT OF PETS INJURED ON THAT NIGHT.

>> ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT IS THAT THE ANIMALS CAN BE EXPERIENCING A LOT OF FEAR AND ANXIETY AND STRESS WHEN TRICK OR TRITERS COME, IT CAN PROVOKE NOT JUST DOGS ESCAPING BUT DOGS BITING AND MAY SEE SOMEONE THAT COMES TO YOUR HOUSE THAT LOOKS REALLY WEIRD AND NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT SMALL KID AND THE WAY THAT CHILDREN MOVE IS REALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE WAYS THAT ADULTS MOVE AND SO IN GENERAL I THINK THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT PROTECTING OUR DOGS FROM BEING PUT IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE REALLY FEARFUL AROUND KIDS.

AND IF DOGS ARE NOT USED TO BEING AROUND KIDS THEY ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BITE UNEXPECTEDLY BECAUSE KIDS MOVE UNEXPECTEDLY AND SO MAKING SURE THAT YOUR PUPPIES ARE WELL SOCIALIZED WHEN THEY ARE LITTLE, THAT YOUR DOGS KNOW HOW TO BE AROUND CHILDREN AND THAT IT IS STRESSFUL AND EXCITING TIMES LIKE HALLOWEEN IF YOU ARE NOT REALLY 100 PERCENT CONFIDENT THAT YOUR DOG IS SAFE TO BE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT REMOVE THEM SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY ARE BE SAFE.

>> THAT IS GREAT ADVICE.

>> IS THERE ANY FOODS, THANKSGIVING SINCE THAT IS THE NEXT UPCOMING HOLIDAY OR EVEN GOING INTO THE END OF THE YEAR TYPE OF SEASONS WITH DECORATIONS THAT WE COULD LOOK OUT FOR?

>> SO IN GENERAL, WHILE WE WANT TO GIVE OUR PETS SPECIAL TREATS, DOING THAT SETS THEM UP FOR GASTROINTESTINAL ISSUES AND THINGS AS SERIOUS AS PANCREATIC INFLAMMATION, PANCREATITIS THAT CAN BE SERIOUS OR EVEN FATAL, SO WHILE YOU ARE TEMPTED TO WANT TO GIVE YOUR DOG SOMETHING DELICIOUS AND YUMMY FROM THE TABLE AN EXTRA MILK BONE OR EXTRA LITTLE BIT OF FOOD, YOU KNOW, THEIR OWN FOOD, MAYBE, MAY BE THE SAFEST TREAT FOR THEM.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE FOOD, A LITTLE BIT OF WHITE MEAT CHICKEN OR TURKEY IS FINE, VEGETABLES WITHOUT BUTTER OR SEASONINGS ON THEM IS GENERALLY OKAY.

>> THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

WE DO HAVE A CALLER ON THE LINE RIGHT NOW, CARLA FROM STATE COLLEGE, WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?

>> MY QUESTION IS, I RECENTLY HAD COVID AND MY SEVEN, YOU KNOW, OLD DOG DEVELOPED SYMPTOMS OF RESPIRATORY AND MOSTLY VOMITING DISTRESS AND I WAS WONDERING IF MY DOG HAD INDEED, YOU KNOW, ALSO CAUGHT COVID.

>> SO I WOULD SAY THAT THIS FALL IN THE STATE COLLEGE AREA I HAVE SEEN MORE UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS IN OUR DOGS THAN ANY OF THE 20 PLUS YEARS THAT I HAVE WORKED HERE IN STATE COLLEGE AND WE DID PCR TESTING AT OUR CLINIC NOT FOR EVERY DOG THAT CAME IN WITH UPPER RESPIRATORY SIGNS BUT ABOUT 20 AS TOTAL, PCR TESTS WHERE WE TEST FOR ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT VIRUSES AND BACTERIAL INFECTIONS, COSTS ABOUT $450 SO IT WAS NOT SOMETHING WE COULD DO FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THE PCR TESTING WE WERE DOING WE ARE SHOWING A COUPLE OF CANINE VIRUSES THAT WERE PRETTY COMMON, PARROT INFLUENZA WAS PRETTY COMMON AND THE OTHER -- THERE ARE TWO OTHER SORRY BACTERIAL INFECTIONS, WAS WITH MICOPLASMA AND THE OTHER WAS A BRONCHOINFECTION WH WHICH ARE INFECTIONS DOGS GET AND MOST OF THE DOGS WE SAW THAT HAS UPPER RESPIRATORY SIGNS WHICH ARE REALLY LIKE HARSH GOOSE LIKE COUGH, CALLED CAN A KENNEL COUGH COMPLEX, THAT -- THOSE WERE PRETTY SPECIFIC TO THE DOGS.

WE HAVE OCCASIONALLY HAD A FEW PATIENTS COUGH, HAVE RESPIRATORY SIGNS WHEN THEIR OWNERS HAD COVIDS AND THOSE SIGNS HAVE ALWAYS ACCORDING TO THE VETERINARY LITERATURE AND ACCORDING TO OUR EXPERIENCE BEEN PRETTY SELF LIMITING.

RISK FACTORS FOR THE UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS WOULD BE REALLY OLD DOGS OR DOGS WITH PUSHED IN NOSES SO LIKE LITTLE BULLDOGS, BUT THOSE DOGS HAD CILIA IN THE AIRWAYS MORE LIKE THE AIRWAY CLEARANCE OF A SMOKER, SO THAT THEY JUST DON'T CLEAR VIRUSES AND BACTERIA NORMALLY AND SO THOSE DOGS GET A LITTLE MORE SICK, ANY POTENTIAL COVID STEP HAS REALLY SELF-LIMITING BUT THIS AT ALL HAS BEEN BAD FOR A LOT OF OTHER UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTION SHUNS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SEEING AT THE CLINIC.

EVEN IF IT IS NOT COVID, THESE VIRUSES AND BACTERIA ARE USUALLY TRANSMISS TO BELIEVE OTHER DOGS SO MAKING SURE TRANSMISSIBLE SO IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR DOG MAY HAVE SIGNS THAT YOU KEEP THEM HOME FOR EVEN A WEEK OR SO AFTER THE SIGNS PERSIST TO PREVENT THIS FROM TRAVELING THROUGH THE AREA WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING GENERALLY.

>> OKAY.

CARLA, -- OH, I AM SORRY, CARLA, YOU SAID THAT YOUR DOG IS VOMITING AS WELL?

>> YES.

>> SO THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD ASK IS, DOES HE COUGH A BUNCH AND THEN VOMIT OR IS HE VOMITING SEPARATE FROM THE COUGHING?

>> >> DID YOU HEAR ME?

>> I AM NOT SURE.

>> I THINK IT IS SEPARATE.

>> OKAY.

>> THEN THAT CERTAINLY WOULD WARRANT AT LEAST A PHONE CALL TO YOUR VETERINARY BECAUSE THAT MAY INDICATE THERE IS A LARGER PROBLEM GOING ON AND SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND MORE OF A FULL EXAMINATION.

>> YES.

>> WE HAVE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF THESE DOGS THAT JUST COUGH AND COUGH AND COUGH AND THEN EITHER THE VOMIT UP PHLEGM OAR A MEAL THEY HAVE RECENTLY EATEN AND THAT WE CAN USUALLY CONTROL WITH SOME MEDICATIONS TO KIND OF CONTROL A COUGH, BUT I WOULD AGREE THAT IF YOUR DOG IS VOMITING SEPARATELY FROM THE COUGH THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYTHING THAT I HAVE SEEN ASSOCIATED WITH COVID OR THESE OTHER UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO BRING THOSE DOGS INTO THE VET CLINIC YOUR VETERINARIAN MAY WANT TO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC PRECAUTIONS AND SO THAT THAT DOG IS NOT INFECTIOUS TO OTHER PATIENTS AT THE CLINIC BECAUSE THESE DOGS ARE VERY, VERY INFECTION SHUS, INFECTIOUS IF IT IS ANY OF THESE UPPER RESPIRATORY VIRUSES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SURE.

>> HOPE YOUR DOG GETS BETTER SOON.

>> POOR PUPPY.

>> YES.

I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL THE ADVICE, JUST LIKE IF WE HUMANS DON'T FEEL WELL WE SHOULD REST AND TALK TO OUR DOCTORS AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON, SAME THING FOR OUR ANIMALS AND OUR FUR BABIES, YES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WELL, SOMETHING THAT POPS UP A LOT IN A WAY, GOING OFF OF COVID IS WE HAD A LOT OF ADOPTION DURING THAT YEAR, THE YEAR OF 2020 AND SO DURING COVID IF PEOPLE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SOCIALIZE THEIR DOGS OR MAYBE NOT GET THE RIGHT TRAIN OR KNOW WHAT INFORMATION TO REALLY GATHER IN ON THAT AND THE DOGS ARE NOT SOCIALIZED, IS IN ANY KEY TIPS YOU COULD GIVE THEM OR A NEXT STEP TO HELP THE VETS OUT WHEN THESE DOGS COME INTO THE OFFICE?

>> SO I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT GETTING A PUPPY OR NEW DOG FOR YOUR FAMILY, LOTS OF PEOPLE WANT TO ADOPT FROM SHELTERS AND FROM RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS.

I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.

THERE ARE MANY GREAT DOGS THERE THAT NEED WONDERFUL HOMES.

BUT THE SOCIALIZATION THAT HAPPENS TO OUR DOGS IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THEIR LIFE AND REALLY IN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF THEIR LIFE CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO THEIR LEVEL OF RELAXATION AND COME OTHER WITH THINGS THAT GO ON.

SO IT IS IMPORTANT WHEN PUPPIES ARE LITTLE THAT THEY ARE TREATED CAREFULLY AND EXPOSED TO THINGS BUT NOT SCARED AND SO MANY OF OUR COVID DOGS MISSED A LOT OF THAT AND IT CAN BE A SLOW PROCESS WHEN THEY ARE OLDER TO A SOCIALIZE THEM, SORT OF LIKE A KID LEARNING A LANGUAGE, LIKE WHEN YOU ARE LITTLE YOU JUST PICK UP ON THAT LANGUAGE AND SOCIALIZATION IS LIKE THAT FOR OUR DOGS.

WHEN THEY ARE TEENY LITTLE DOGS THEY ARE TEENY LITTLE SPONGES FOR SOCIALIZATION.

WHEN YOU ADOPT A-YEAR-OLD DOG OR TWO-YEAR-OLD DOG THAT HASN'T HAD THOSE SOCIAL EXPERIENCES THEY CAN LEARN THINGS BUT THEY JUST SPEAK IT WITH AN ACCENT, LIKE THEY DON'T QUITE HAVE IT RIGHT OR THEY GET A LITTLE PEERFUL IF SOMETHING WEIRD HAPPENS AND WHEN THAT DOG IS IN A SITUATION WHERE A LOT OF STRANGE THINGS ARE HAPPENING OR IN THE VET CLINIC WHERE SOMETHING PAINFUL MAY BE HAPPENING OR WHERE THEY ARE ALREADY IN PAIN, THAT PEER CAN PROGRESS TO BITING AND AGGRESSION.

AND SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO TRAIN YOUR DOG TO WORK WITH A TRAINER OR TO WORK WITH SOCIALIZATION WITH OTHER DOGS A AND TO BREAK THOSE PROBLEMS INTO LITTLE PIECES AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT, FIND A GOOD TRAINER AND IF THE ISSUE IS BEYOND A TRAINING ISSUE, BUT REALLY AN ISSUE OF LIKE FEAR AND ANXIETY THAT IS A BEHAVIORAL ISSUE SOMETIMES YOU NEED A VETERINARIAN BEHAVIOR LIST OR MEDICATION TO HELP THEM GET OVER THOSE PROBLEMS OR LEARN HOW TO COPE WITH THE PROBLEMS SO THEY DEVELOP A BETTER REACTION IN THE FUTURE.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> AND IF YOUR VETERINARIANED PRESCRIBES MEDICINE FOR STRESS OR ANXIETY GIVE THEM AT DIRECTED AND MANY OWNERS ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE LEVEL OF SEDATION THAT THESE MEDICATIONS CAUSE, BUT THE REASON THAT THEY CAUSE SEDATION IS BECAUSE THE ANIMALS ARE RELAXED AND NO LONGER ANXIOUS AND IT REALLY HELPS US DO OUR JOB AND LEVEL DOWN THAT ANXIETY FOR THE NEXT VISIT.

>> YEAH.

>> OH, WE HAVE AN E-MAIL QUESTION, FRANK WRIGHT, WE RECENTLY MOVED TO PENNSYLVANIA ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO FROM UTAH AND BEFORE THAT NEVADA WHERE OUR DOG WAS BORN.

HIS SKIN HAS BEEN CHANGING FROM A LIGHT COLOR TO A DARK COLOR.

HE IS A KAREN TERRIER, THE SKIN DOES NOT SEEM SCALY AND NOT SHOWN ANY SIGNS OF CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR, LOSS OF AM EXCITE, CHANGE IN BOWEL MOVEMENTS OR OTHER SYMPTOMS OF DISEASE.

SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED OR COULD IN JUST BE A NATURAL REACTION TO SUCH A DRASTIC CHANGE IN THE ENVIRONMENT?

>> SO I THINK I WILL TAKE THAT ONE.

>> I WILL LET YOU SINCE YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE OF A DERMATOLOGY PRACTICE.

>> WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT NEVADA AND UTAH PRETTY DRY ENVIRONMENTS.

WE HAVE A ROT MORE, A LOT MORE ALLERGENS, FUNGUS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN THE ENVIRONMENT IN CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA AND WHEN YOU MOVE FROM A DRY ENVIRONMENT TO AN ENVIRONMENT WITH MORE ALLERGENS THE DOGS CAN POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME ALLERGIC REACTIONS TO THINGS THAT GOING ON.

THAT CHANGE IN SKIN COLOR ON THE BELL HE IT IS HARD TO TELL FROM THE DESCRIPTION BUT THERE IS A CHANGE CALLED LIFE -- ALMOST LIKE LICHEN ON A TREE, WHICH IS LIKE A DARKER SKIN COLOR THAT GROWS OVER A LIGHT SKIN COLOR AND THAT IS A RESULT OF SOME CHRONIC IRRITATION, AND IT MAY NOT BE ITCHY SORE, BUT IT MAY BE A YEAST INFECTION OR A BACTERIAL INFECTION, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THAT DOG GO AND SEE A VETERINARIAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VETERINARIAN LOCALLY CALL AND GET ONE.

MOST OF THE VETERINARIANS LOCALLY FOR A WHILE DURING COVID IT WAS REALLY, REALLY HARD TO GET IN, A LOT OF CLINICS WERE NOT TAKING NEW PATIENTS BUT MOST OF OUR VETERINARIANS IN STATE COLLEGE AND IN THIS AREA WILL TAKE YOU AS A NEW PATIENT IF YOU CALL AND POLITE AND KIND AND HAVE A REASON TO GET YOUR DOG IN, WE ARE HAPPY TO GET YOU ON THE SCHEDULE AND SEE YOU AND I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF CHANGE IN THE SKIN ISN'T A NORMAL AGING CHANGE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY BE AN ALLERGIC REACTION BUT COULD ALSO BE SOME KIND OF METABOLIC REACTION TO LOW THYROID OR SOMETHING CALLED CUSHING'S DISEASE SO I WOULD DEFINITELY GET IN TO SEE THE VET.

>> OH, WOW.

OKAY.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT CATS.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, THEY ARE SO EASY, BUT I MEAN, THEY STILL NEED STIMULATION AND THEY ARE STILL AN ANIMAL ON ITS OWN THAT HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS.

HOW CAN WE HELP OUR CATS BE HAPPIER IN OUR ENVIRONMENT?

>> CATS ARE NOT JUST SMALL DOGS.

AND SO ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE ENRICHMENT, THEY PLAY, THEY HAVE PLACES TO HIDE, THEY HAVE A SET SCHEDULE.

SOME CATS REALLY THRIVE ON SCHEDULE.

THOSE TYPE OF THINGS CAN BE VERY HELPFUL, MAKING SURE THEY DO HAVE THEIR ANNUAL PHYSICAL EXAMS EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT DUE FOR ADVAVACCINES BUT MAKING SURE EVERYONE GETS, GIVE THEM A FULL PHYSICAL EXAM EACH YEAR BECAUSE THE BEST WAY TO PREVENT PROBLEMS IS TO TREAT PROBLEMS IS PREVENT THEM.

>> I WAS THINKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE COUGHING DOG AND THE CASUAL WAY WE TALK ABOUT TALKING IN DOGS AND THROW OUT THAT AGAIN CATS ARE NOT SMALL DOGS AND COUGHING IN CATS CAN ACTUALLY BE A REALLY SERIOUS THING AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE EMERGENCY STUFF THAT DR. LOAR DOES BUT IT CAN INDICATE FELINE ASTHMA OR MORE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE COUGHING IN CATS, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THAT I THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT AND MIGHT BE MORE SERIOUS THAN WHAT WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT INITIALLY WITH A DOG BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF FOR CATS I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE KEY TO HAVING A HAPPY CAT AND THERE IS SOMETHING THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF FELINE PRACTITIONERS THEY CALL IT THE FIVE PILL PARTICULARS OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND DR. LOAR TALKED ABOUT MOST OF THOSE, HAVING FOOD AND RESOURCES AND SOMETIMES MULTIPLE RESOURCES.

CAT LIKE WATER DISHES IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS GREAT DRINK SORES PUT WATER DISHES IN DIFFERENT SPOTS AND HAVE SPOTS FOR THE CAT TO HIDE.

WE TALK ABOUT PREDICTABLE HUMAN INTERACTION.

CATS ARE JUST SO INTUITIVE AND THEY KNOW WHEN WE ARE UNHAPPY.

THEY KNOW WHEN WE ARE STRESSED.

SO BE A PREDICTABLE FRIEND FOR YOUR CAT, BE KIND TO YOUR CAT, THEY APPRECIATE THAT, THEY APPRECIATE THAT INTERACTION WHERE THEY CAN TELL LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO COME UP AND PET THEM OR THROW A TOY FOR THEM, PREDICTABLE HUMAN INTERACTIONS IS A BIG DEAL AND ONE THING THAT THE PLAYING, THAT DR. LOAR TALKED ABOUT IS CRITICAL FOR THE INDOOR CATS ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THOSE ARE CATS THAT MIGHT ROAM IN A MILE DIAMETER FROM A HOME OR A BARN IF THEY ARE AN OUTDOOR CAT AND KEEPING THEM SAFE AND KEEPING THEM INDOORS WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE RECOMMEND BUT THEY NEED TO PLAY AND THEY NEED TO BE ACTIVE.

AND THEN THERE THEIR SENSE OF SMELL.

CATS HAVE A SENSE OF SMELL THAT IS 100 TIMES MORE THAN OURS OR 100 TIMES BETTER THAN OURS IS ONE THING I HAVE HEARD SO IT IS JUST HAVING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS RESPECTFUL OF THAT SENSE OF SMELL FOR KITTIES IS IMPORTANT IS.

>> OH, THAT IS GREAT ADVICE.

>> AND I THINK CATS ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET STRESSED THAN DOGS.

>> YEAH.

>> AND CATS EXHIBIT STRESS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

THE BIGGEST ONE THAT I THINK BOTH DR. SMART AND I SEE ARE URINARY HABITS.

MANY CATS THAT ARE STRESSED IT DOES AFFECT THEIR URINARY TRACT AND CAUSE BLADDER INFLAMMATION AND URINATE IN PLACES WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T AND IN MALE CATS IT CAN EVEN LEAD TO A COMPLETE URINARY BLOCKAGE WHICH IS AN EMERGENCY AND CAN BE FATAL FAIRLY QUICKLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT MIGHT STRESS YOUR CAT AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE AND MINIMIZE THOSE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE IS IMPORTANT.

>> YES.

>> WE HAVE A CALLER, JIM FROM CAIN.

WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?

>> HI, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.

YES, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TICS IF WE CAN FOR A MINUTE, SPECIFICALLY I HAVE AN ENGLISH SETTER, LONG EARED DOG OBVIOUSLY AND WE ARE PROUD HUNTERS, WE WENT YESTERDAY FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF HOUR HUNT, SPENT THE NEXT HOUR AND A HALF, ALMOST TWO HOURS METICULOUSLY GOING THROUGH HIS HAIR COAT AND I REVVED, REMOVED THAN THAN 200 TICS OFF THAT POOR GUY.

>> THAT'S A LOT.

>> IT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE.

UP IN CAIN, MCQUEEN COUNTY AND WE ARE JUST INUNDATED WITH THE CRAZY THINGS, AND I HAVE USED A SERINCO PRODUCT, BOTH COLLAR AND A TOPICAL, EVEN BOTH AT THE SAME TIME AND IT JUST DOESN'T -- NOTHING SEEMS TO PAYS THEM.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS?

>> YEAH.

YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

23 PERCENT OF OUR PATIENTS THAT WE TESTED LAST YEAR FOR ANNA PLASMOSIS TESTED POSITIVE SO THAT IS EVERYONE'S COUCH DOG AS WELL AS THEIR FIELD DOGS SO WHEN YOU HAVE A DOG WHO HAS THAT KIND OF LIFESTYLE IN THE FIELD THEY ARE REALLY AT RISK FOR MOST THE ANNA PLASMOSISTER AND LYME DISEASE INFECTION AND MAKE SURE YOUR DOG PROBABLY HAVE A LIME VACCINE MAKE SURE THEY GET THE LIME LIME VACCINATION, ANNA PLASMOSIS IS TRANSMITTED QUICKLY SO THERE ARE A VARIETY OF ORAL PRODUCTS THAT WE CAN USE FOR FLEAS AND TICS .. AS LONG AS YOUR DOG DOESN'T HAVE A HISTORY OF ANY SEIZURES, THOSE PRODUCTS ARE REALLY SAFE AND RELATIVELY EFFECTIVE BUT THEY MAY NOT KILL THE TICS QUITE FAST ENOUGH SO YOU ARE RELYING ON THE TICS ATTACHING AND BITING AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T KILL THE TIC FAST ENOUGH, TO COMPLETELY SO STOP THE TRANSMISSION OF ANNA PLASMOSIS.

>> THERE ARE THE SERESTO PRODUCT, YOU CAN'T PUT THAT ON JUST WHEN THEY ARE GOING OUT, THAT HAS TO BE ON 48 TO 72 HOURS BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE WHICH MEANS THE CHEMICALS IN THAT COLLAR ARE ON YOUR DOG AND IN YOUR DOG'S COAT ALL OF THE TIME.

SO YOU SORT OF HAVE TO WEIGH THE RISKS AND THE BENEFITS WITH SOME OF THOSE PRODUCTS.

THERE ARE SOME SPOT ON PRODUCTS TOO THAT HAVE MORE POWERFUL REPELLENT, ADD ADVANTAGE TIC IS ONE THAT IS SPOT 0 ON AND CAN BE MORE POWERFUL, AGAIN THAT HAS MORE HEAVY DUTY PESTICIDES THAT ARE ON YOUR DOG ALL THE TIME.

WHEN YOU ARE USING A PRODUCT LIKE THAT.

SO KIND OF DEPENDS ON YOUR DOG'S LIFESTYLE AND SOUNDS LIKE YOUR DOG, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR DOES A LOT OF HUNTING AND SO I THINK THAT MAYBE ONE OF THE TALL, PRODUCTS MAY BE APPROPRIATE AND DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID, GETTING IN THERE AND PICKING OFF THE TICS YOU FIND, THE LIGHT COATED DOGS ARE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE TICS, SO YOU THINK YOU ARE FINDING YOUR TICS BECAUSE YOUR DOG IS WHITE THERE ARE GOOD STUDIES THAT TICS REALLY LIKE THE WHITE AND YELLOW COLORS, THE LIGHTER COLORS AND MORE LIKELY TO JUMP ON THE LIGHTER SURFACES AND LESS LIKELY TO JUMP ON LIKE BROWN OR BLACK SURFACES.

LIKE A DARK GREEN SURFACES.

>> YES.

HE IS A WHITE BELGIAN SETTER.

>> YES.

>> AND SO, YES.

>> YOU ARE GOING TO SEE ALL OF THE TICS ON HIM BUT THE TICS ARE ALSO MUCH MORE ATTRACTED TO HIM.

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

YESTERDAY AT THE FEED STORE A TOPICAL SPRAY THAT IS CALLED VETERINARY FORMULA.

>> WELL, JIM -- >> THANK YOU -- >> AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER COMPOUND WAS BUT I AM HOPING THAT WILL HELP SOME AS WELL.

>> WELL, JIM, WE DO APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US A CALL, BUT WE ARE DOWN TO JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES LEFT IN OUR SHOW TONIGHT.

DR. SMART AND DR. LOAR IS THERE ANYTHING, ANY KEY TAKE-AWAYS YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND ON?

>> ONE THING -- ONE MYTH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS IS A DEALING WITH TOXINS, WE -- IT IS AN ALMOST HOURLY OCCURRENCE AT CPVETS WE HAVE SOMEONE CALL IN WITH A PET THAT INGESTED SOME SORT OF POTENTIALLY TOXIC SUBSTANCE OR PLANT.

TOXINS DON'T TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY, SO MUCH LIKE IF YOU INGESTED TOO MUCH OF A MEDICATION IT MAY FAKE DAYS TO EVEN LONGER FOR THE EFFECTS TO BE OBVIOUS, SO IF WE SAY YOUR PET NEEDS TREATMENT IT GENERALLY DOES.

>> NO.

THAT IS GREAT ADVICE.

SO WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH DR. ANDREA LOAR THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT CPVETS AND LOAR.

>> I AM ALEX RABB OUR NEXT IS ON NOVEMBER 16 WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE TEACHER SHORTAGES IN PENNSYLVANIA SCHOOLS.

FROM ALL OF US AT WPSU, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

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