>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, DETAILS ON THE LAUNCHING OF A NEW MEDICAL SCHOOL AT ASU AND A SURVEY LOOKS AT KEEPING YOUNG PEOPLE FROM LEAVING RURAL COMMUNITIES.

A NEW EXHIBIT AT THE EARTH AND SKY FROM AMERICAN INDIAN PERSPECTIVE.

THAT'S NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE SEARCH FOR A MISSING TOURIST SUBMERSIBLE EXPANDED TODAY IN THE NORTH ATLANTIC.

THE COASTGUARD ANNOUNCE ED THIS IT WAS BRINGING IN NEW SHIPS AND UNDERWATER VESSELS AND CANADIAN AIRCRAFT DETECTED NOISES YESTERDAY AND TODAY.

>> I'M NOT A TRAINED EAR AND THAT DATA WAS SENT IMMEDIATELY TO THE NAVY LAST NIGHT AND ANALYZED OVERNIGHT.

THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT IT AND IT'S INCONCLUSIVE.

THE IMPORTANT PIECES, WE'RE SEARCHING IN THE AREA WHERE THE NOISE WAS DETECTED.

>> IT WAS A DIVE TO THE WRECKAGE OF THE TITANIC TO NEWFOUNDLAND.

IT'S ESTIMATED THE VESSEL WILL RUN OUT OF OXYGEN TOMORROW MORNING.

>>> A MAN WHO ATTACKED A WASHINGTON, D.C. BALTIMORE OFFICER WAS SENTENCED TO 21.5 YEARS IN PRISON.

RODRIGUEZ WAS SENTENCED TO OBSTRUCTION AFTER ATTACKING THE POLICE OFFICER IN THE NECK WITH A SHOCK WEAPON.

AND A MAN WITH SENDING A THREATENING EMAIL TO BILL GATES AND CHARGED WITH A MISDEMEANOR FACING UP TO SIX MONTHS IN JAIL AND $2500 FINE.

THIS WAS MANY GATES RECEIVED BY ELECTION DENIERS.

THE EXPERIENCE LEFT HIM WITH PTSD AND WOULD NOT SEEK REELECTION NEXT YEAR.

>>> INCREASING CALLS FOR AN ETHIC'S LAW FOR THE U.S. SUPREME COURT.

THIS AFTER A REPORT BY PRO-PUBLICA THAT ANOTHER JUSTICE FAILED TO REPORT GIFTS WITH INTERESTS BEFORE THE COURT.

>> WE'VE LEARNED TODAY IT WASN'T JUST, JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS THAT GOT LAVISH GIFTS AND FAILED TO DISCLOSE IT, BUT JUSTICE ALITO AND FAILED TO DISCLOSE THAT AND BOTH JUSTICES VIOLATED FEDERAL LAW.

WHEN THEY DID NOT DISCLOSE THEIR PRIVATE JET TRAVEL AND DID NOT RECUSE THEMSELVES, EVEN THOUGH BOTH OF THESETHESE CONSERVATIVE BILLIONAIRES HAD SERVICE BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.

>> Ted: JUSTICE ALITO WROTE A PIECE IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL INVOLVING THE GIFTS.

>>> THE ARIZONA BOARD OF REGENTS ASKED ASU TO EXPAND MEDICAL EXBY LAUNCHINGBYLAUNCHING A NEW PIECE AND THIS WILL BE PART OF A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GROW THE HEALTHCARE WORKFORCE AND JOINING US NOW IS ARIZONA BOARD OF ELECT, FRED DUVAL.

>> WE'RE OUT TO IMPROVE THE HEALTHCARE OF ARIZONANS.

WE HAVE FALLEN WAY BEHIND IN THE NUMBER OF PHYSICIANS TO THE SIZE OF POPULATION, THE NUMBER OF NURSES AND THE HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS.

WHEN YOU GET A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, YOU WAIT TOO LONG AND IF YOU DON'T SEE A DOCTOR, YOU GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

WE NEED MORE DOCTORS, WE NEED MORE NURSES AND ASKED THE UNIVERSITIES TO TAKE AN ASSIGNMENT.

>> Ted: BECAUSE THE BIG IDEA IS ASU STARTING A MEDICALLE MEDICAL SCHOOL.

>> THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA WILL DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF PHYSICIANS AND ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY WILL START A BRAND NEW MEDICAL SCHOOL WHICH WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN U OF A AND NAU ON ALLIED HEALTH NURSES AND POSSIBLY, IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO FINANCE IT, RURAL ARIZONA AND PRESIDENT TRIBAL NATIONS.

ASU IS A LARGE ENTITY.

THE CAMPUS IS DOWNTOWN WITH A BIOMEDICAL CAMPUS AND TEMPE, THERE'S ONE WITH THE MAYO CLINIC WITH A LOT OF LAND AND LOOKING AT THAT.

>> Ted: MEDICAL SCHOOLS ARE ASSOCIATED BY HOSPITALS AND ASSOCIATED WITH ASU AND MAYO CLINIC OR WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?

>> TO BE DETERMINED AND WITH ALL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE POTENTIAL PARTNERS TO SEE WHERE THE BEST SYNERGY EXISTS.

>> Ted: TO ADDRESS SHORTAGES AND WE'VE HEARD AND WE'VE TALKED BIT ON THE PROGRAM, DOCTORS, NURSES AND TURNOVER, BURNOUT AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS HERE.

>> YES.

>> Ted: HOW DOES THIS HELP ADDRESS THAT?

NUMBERS ARE ONE THING AND ISSUES ARE THE OTHER.

>> RIGHT.

SO THE ISSUES WITH PHYSICIANS IS TWO STEPS.

ONE IS WE NEED MORE GRADUATING FROM MEDICAL SCHOOLS AND TWO, WE NEED MORE RESIDENCIES BECAUSE TYPICALLY, A PHYSICIAN WILL PRACTICE WHERE THEY DO THEIR RESIDENCY AND BANNER HEALTH HAS COMMITTED TO PRODUCING 300 RESIDENCIES AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DOUBLE THE RESIDENCIES IN ARIZONA TO KEEP THE DOCTORS HERE WE NEED.

NURSES IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE AND COVID BURNED OUT SO MANY AND SO, THAT'S WHY WE'VE ASKED ALL THREE UNIVERSITIES TO GROW THEIR NURSING RANKS.

>> Ted: A SHORTAGE OF HOSPITAL BEDS AND THE WE HAVE THAT AND DOES THIS HELP TO ADDRESS THAT?

>> THAT'S A DIFFERENT SECTOR ON THE PROVIDERS AND ON THE HEALTHCARE INSTITUTIONS.

BUT WE NEED MORE DOCTORS AND NOT JUST IN HOSPITALS, BUT IN CLINICS AND RURAL SETTINGS.

>> Ted: AND PUBLIC HEALTH FUNDING AND 50% BELOW NATIONAL HEALTH AVERAGE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

>> IT DOES.

AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROLS RESIDENCIES AND THE FORMULA IS ANTIQUATED AND OLDER STATES.

WE NEED THAT CAUGHT UP UNDER MEDICARE AND WE NEED TO MEET OUR GROWING POPULATION.

>> Ted: YOU SAID A DIFFERENT MEDICAL SCHOOL THAN THE U OF A AND IS THIS A TRADITIONAL MEDICAL SCHOOL?

>> ASU IS THE LARGEST MEDICAL SCHOOL IN THE UNITED STATES AND LEADING IN ENGINEERING.

THINK ABOUT HOW HEALTHCARE IS CHANGING.

YOU GO TO YOUR APPLE WATCH, GET YOUR HEART RATE AND YOUR PHONE AND GET ALL KINDS OF MEDICAL SERVICES.

WEARABLES, THERE'S A VARIETY OF NEW ENGINEERING EMBEDDED WAYS IN WHICH WE GET HEALTHCARE AND THAT'S ONE COMPONENT OF IT AND THE SECOND IS THAT INCREASINGLY AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO YOUR HEALTHCARE ONLINE WITH A PHYSICIAN OR A NURSE ON A SCREEN.

TELEMEDICINE IS COMING AND THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO HAVE NEW TOOLS OF ENGINEERING TO GET THE FULL SERVICE ONLINE.

>> Ted: INTERDISCIPLINARY WITH THE ENGINEERING SCHOOL AND ASPECTS OF ASU?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

AND IT'S UNIQUE AND UNTRIED IN THE UNITED STATES AND THIS IS NOT JUST DIFFERENT THAN THE EXISTING COLLEGE OF MEDICINE AT U OF A BUT ANY OTHER MEDICAL SCHOOL IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> Ted: FOR SOMEONE WATCHING AND I KNOW I'LL NEED A HEART PROCEDURE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO THE ASU MEDICAL SCHOOL AND HAVE THAT PARTICULAR OPTION.

IS THAT GOING TO BE AN OPTION?

>> YES.

THESE WILL BE PEOPLE GETTING AN ENGINEERING DEGREE AND MD AND MOVING INTO BOTH DISCIPLINES.

AT THE SAME TIME, U OF A WILL DEVELOP THE PRODUCTION OF THE TRADITIONAL MD.

>> Ted: WHY HASN'T ASU HAD A MEDICAL SCHOOL?

>> THIS IS A LONG SCHOOL.

THE SON OF THE FOUNDING DEAN IN 1964 AND IT WAS A BIG POLITICAL FIGHT BACK IN 1964.

ASU WANTED IT EVER SINCE AND LONG OVERDUE.

>> Ted: LONG OVERDUE AND INFLUENCED IT A LITTLE BIT OF.

>> U OF A MET THE NEED AND THE THE GROWTH RATE IN ARIZONA IS SUCH THAT ONE U OF A IN TWO LOCATIONS IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR THE NEED WE HAVE.

>> Ted: DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ATHLETICS AND THE PECK 12 AND THE BIG 12 AND ASU, PERHAPS, MOVING TO ANOTHER CONFERENCE WHERE THE CONFERENCES REQUIRE MEDICAL SCHOOLS?

LITTLE OUT OF THE LEFT FIELD AND WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> LEFT FIELD.

[ Laughter ] >> GOOD TRY.

A SWING AND A MISS.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: NOTHING AT ALL?

>> NO.

>> Ted: WHEN CAN WE LOOK AT THE NEXT STAGE AND WHAT IS THE NEXT STAGE IN THIS?

>> U OF A IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR DOUBLES AND THEIR ASSIGNMENT.

THIS IS COMPLEX BECAUSE ONE, IT HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED BEFORE AND ACCREDITATION IS A VERY SLOW-MOVING REQUIREMENT AND LOCATION ISSUES WILL TAKE US SOME TIME AND THEN FUNDING ISSUES WILL TAKE US A LOT OF TIME.

ASU IS KNOWN FOR AN INNOVATIVE WAY OF RAISING MONEY FOR THE THINGS THEY DO AND MEDICAL TRAINING IS EXPENSIVE AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT.

>> Ted: WHAT BEST PRACTICES DO YOU LOOK AT?

ARE THERE SCHOOLS COMING CLOSE?

>> THERE ARE OTHERS IN THE ENGINEERING SPACE AND WE'RE GOING BEYOND THAT, SO IN THAT SENSE, IN THE CLASSIC ASU WAY OF THE MOST INNOVATIVE SCHOOL, THOUGH DO IT AGAIN.

BUT THE NEED IS SO GREAT IN THIS AREA BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING OUR HEALTHCARE IN NEW WAYS.

THERE ARE TECHNOLOGY EMBEDDED AND OTHER SCHOOLS WILL BE FOLLOWING US.

>> Ted: IT SOUNDS VAGUE, BUT A TIME TABLE, EVEN THE TIME TABLE?

>> IT IS AND WITH ACCREDITATION, WE'RE SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AWAY FROM OPENING OUR DOORS.

IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND WE'RE AFTER IT AND THEN GETTING THESE RESIDENCIES IN ALIGNMENT FOR PHYSICIANS TO TRAIN.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT, ARIZONA HAS A CUTTING-EDGE LIFE SCIENCE'S AND BIOSCIENCE'S PLATFORM.

WE'RE A B+ KNOCKING ON THE DOOR OF THE A LEAGUES.

THIS WILL HELP US TO RAMP UP IN THE COMPETITION AROUND LIFE SCIENCES TO CREATING THE RESEARCH, THE CURERS AND THE DRIVERS OF AN ECONOMIC FUTURE THAT ARIZONA CAN HAVE.

>> Ted: THAT LEADS TO THE LAST QUESTION, AS FAR AS COLLABORATION AND JUST COOPERATION, WHAT T-GEN, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF PLAYERS CAN PLAY A PART IN HERE AND EVERYONE GETTING ALONG?

>> VERY MUCH SO.

A GREAT DEAL OF EXCITEMENT, THAT WE CAN TAKE THE PIECES YOU'VE JUST MENTION AND LIFT UP THE SYNERGY AND AIM TOWARDS THE LIFE SCIENCES AND CURES AND PHARMACEUTICAL PRODUCTS AND PARTICULARLY AROUND D.N.A.

AND THE NEW DYNAMICS AROUND INDIVIDUALIZED MEDICINE AND FIND A PIECE OF THAT NEW 21st 21st CENTURY ECONOMY AND DRIVE IT TO HIGHER WAGES, HIGHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR ARIZONANS AND BETTER CURES AND OUTCOMES.

>> Ted: FRED, SOUNDS ENCOURAGING AND INFORMATION FOR THE INFORMATION.

>> ALWAYS.

>> Ted: UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A SURVEY LOOKS AT HOW BEST TO KEEP YOUNG PEOPLE FROM LEAVING RURAL COMMUNITIES.

>> RURAL COMMUNITIES ARE FACING A PERSISTENT PROBLEM WITH WATCHING THE YOUNGER RESIDENTS MOVE AWAY TO LARGER CITIES.

A NEW SURVEY LOOKS TO FINE FIND WAYS TO KEEP PEOPLE IN SMALLER TOWNS BY FINDING OUT WHAT WOULD MAKE THEM STAY.

WE'RE JOINED BY KATE STUART.

WELCOME.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: YOUNG PEOPLE MOVING FROM RURAL ARIZONA TO BIGGER CITIES AND THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A NEW THING.

IS IT HAPPENING MORE OFTEN AND HAVING MORE DAMAGE?

>> THE TOWN OF HAYDEN LOST HALF OF THE WORKING POPULATION AND WE'RE SEEING IT IN MANY COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT RURAL ARIZONA.

>> Ted: WHY ARE THEY LEAVING?

>> IN THE SURVEY WE JUST COMPLETED, FOUR OUT OF FIVE RESPONDENTS ARE LEAVING OR WOULD LEAVE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIND A QUALITY CAREER IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO OFTENTIMES, IT HAS TO DO WITH OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

>> Ted: THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING?

ARE THEY GOING NECESSARILY TO BIGGER CITIES OR AREAS FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHAT THEY NEED TO DO?

>> LOOKING FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES, MORE JOBS AND 80% OF THE POPULATION DRIVES 25 MILES OR MORE EVERY DAY TO WORK.

>> Ted: MY GOODNESS.

THE IMPACT ON LOCAL ECONOMIES AND, AGAIN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A CLICHE, YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO LEAVE A SMALL TOWN TO GO TO A BIG CITY AND THIS HAPPENS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT.

>> WHAT WE FOUND, YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO STAY IN THEIR HOMETOWNS.

THERE WAS QUITE SEVERAL KEY THEMES THAT EMERGED IN THIS RESEARCH THAT WE DID AND YOUNG PEOPLE SAID THEY WANTED TO STAY WHERE THEY LIVED AND LOVED THEIR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAD AND THE STRENGTH OF THE RELATIONSHIPS WAS DEEP.

THEY ALSO LOVE THE NATURAL BEAUTIES OF THE AREAS THEY LIVED AND WANTED TO STAY IN THEIR HOMETOWNS.

MOST REPORTED THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CAREER OR EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES COULD BE IN ORDER TO HAVE THE QUALITY JOB.

>> Ted: YOU CONDUCTED THIS SURVEY AND, AGAIN, AGES, WHAT 16 TO 24 IN EIGHT ARIZONA TOWNS?

>> CORRECT.

>> Ted: A LOT OF THE TOWNS SOUND LIKE OLD MINING TOWNS.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A THEME?

>> SOME WERE MINING TOWNS AND OTHERS WERE NOT.

WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF CRITERIA AND WE HAVE A LOT OF LOCAL -- LOCAL FIRST ARIZONA HAS A LOT OF RELATIONSHIPS IN THE PROPER CORRIDOR AND WE WERE DOING THINGS AND WE HAD A CAREER EXPO AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE WERE SEEING THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAD TO LISTEN TO YOUTH AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE INCLUDED.

>> Ted: WHEN YOU LISTENED, WHAT DID YOU HEAR?

>> WE WERE SURPRISED AND WE HEARD, AGAIN, YOUTH WANTED TO STAY WHERE THEY LIVED AND DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ACCESS RESOURCES AND WHEN I SAY RESOURCES, I MEAN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES IN ORDER TO START A BUSINESS OR IN ORDER TO GET TECHNICAL TRAINING OR ON-THE-THE JOB TRAINING.

MANY THOUGHT COLLEGE WAS THE ONLY PATHWAY.

LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN RURAL ARE THINKING ABOUT BECOMING ENTREPRENEURS.

WE HEARD THAT IN KINGMAN AND GLOBE AND MANY PEOPLE IN GLOBE WANTED TO BECOME A BAKER.

THIS WOMAN WAS JUST SAYING IT WAS INTERESTING TO HER THAT THERE WEREN'T MANY BAKERIES IN GLOBE AND WASN'T SURE HOW TO GET STARTED.

>> Ted: WITH THAT IN MIND, LET'S SAY I'M A CIVIC LEADER IN GLOBE OR HAYDEN OR SOME OF THESE TOWNS, KINGMAN, WHAT DO I TAKE FROM THE SURVEY AND WHAT DO I DO TO HELP THESE KIDS STAY WHERE THEY ARE?

>> I THINK THE VERY FIRST THING ANYONE CAN DO, BUSINESS LEADERS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS, EXPECT LEADERS, DECISION MAKERS, THEY CAN HELP TO INVEST IN THE RELATIONSHIPS AROUND YOUNG PEOPLE.

YOUNG PEOPLE SAID THAT THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

BUT THEY SAID OTHER ADULT RELATIONSHIPS IN THEIR LIVES WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

SO WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT ONE REALLY GREAT SOLUTION WOULD BE MENTORSHIP FOR BUSINESS LEADERS TO COME INTO PLACES WHERE YOU SAW, WHETHER SCHOOLS OR OTHER PLACES AND TEACH THEM AND SHOW THEM WHAT THE CAREER OPPORTUNITIES ARE LIKE WHERE THEY LIVE.

AND EVEN SMALL BUSINESSES REACHING OUT AND SUPPORTING OTHER -- YOUNG PEOPLE INTERESTED IN BECOMING ENTREPRENEURS.

>> Ted: IF I WERE A CIVIC LEADERS, I WOULD BE INTERESTED, ARE THEY INTERESTED?

>> YES.

OUR NEXT STEPS WITH THE SURVEY, WE'LL DEBUT THE RESULTS IN THE RURAL POLICY FORUM IN MIAMI AUGUST 2nd THROUGH 4th AND MEETINGS WITH CIVIC LEADERS AND THE EDUCATORS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS AND ALSO BRING THIS RESEARCH BACK TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO GAVE A VOICE TO IT AND SAY WHAT WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC COMMUNITY, WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEEPER INVESTMENTS AND WHERE CAN WE START RIGHT NOW?

>> Ted: ONLINE, ENTREPRENEURSHIP WOULD BE STRONG AND YOU MENTIONED THIS, BUT YOU CAN LIVE NOW IN A SMALL TOWN AND DO A LOT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

REMOTE WORK HAS BECOME MUCH MORE POPULAR AND WITH THAT COMES SOME OF THE EQUITY WORK AROUND MAKING SURE THAT BROADBAND IS STRONG ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO DO REMOTE WORK.

THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE IF RURAL ARIZONA AND A LOT OF HARD WORK HAPPENING.

>> Ted: WE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND THE THE GENERAL WELFARE AND EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE, AND THOSE ARE AFFECTED, TOO, ARE THEY NOT IN.

>> THE WORKFORCE AND I JUST HEARD FROM SOMEONE THAT ALL OF THE HEALTHCARE WORKERS IN SUPERIOR ARE HIRED BY A TEMP AGENCY.

SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LOCAL INVESTMENT TO BE MADE INTO THOSE FIELDS.

WE HEARD FROM EDUCATORS IN SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES WE SURVEYED THAT THEY HAVE EDUCATORS WITH THEIR DISTRICTS FOR 30 YEARS.

SO THERE WERE OUTLYING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT -- HAYDEN IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TEACHERS WERE FROM HAYDEN AND CAME BACK TO BECOME EDUCATORS.

>> Ted: THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PARADIGM THERE.

KATE, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE STUDY AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING WITH US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: A NEW EXHIBIT AT THE HERD MUSEUM TITLED, "SUBSTANCE OF STARS" TO THE LENSE OF NATIVE IDENTITIES.

THE EXHIBIT INCORPORATES SKY KNOWLEDGE, AND MORE.

WE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE EXHIBIT FROM VELMA CRAIG, ASSISTANT CURATOR AT THE HERD MUSEUM.

GOOD TO YOU HAVE AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: "SUBSTANCE OF STARS," WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

THIS IS COVERING FOUR CULTURES.

AND YES, DISCUSSING THE SKY KNOWLEDGE AND LAND KNOWLEDGE AND SPIRRUAL KNOWLEDGE THROUGH CONTEMPORARY ART.

>> Ted: IS IT A PERMANENT EXHIBITION?

>> YES.

WE DON'T LIKE TO SAY PERMANENT BECAUSE NOTHING IS PERMANENT AND THE NEW TERM IS LONG-TERM.

>> Ted: BUT THIS IS FROM EXISTING THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE?

>> YES.

EACH CURATOR, EACH OF THEM IS NATIVE AND COMES FROM WHATEVER COMMUNITY IT IS THAT THEY'RE CURATING THE SECTION OF.

SO I WAS THE CURATOR AND WE HAD JAMIE JACOB WHO CURATED ONE AND JACOB BUTLER AND ANOTHER FOR THE U-PICK.

>> Ted: THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN NATIVE KNOWLEDGE AND WHAT, EARTH AND SKY?

>> THE KNOWLEDGE THAT CAME THROUGH THE OBSERVATION OF THE STARS AND LAND AND LIFE, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

>> Ted: AGAIN, TWO CURATORS AND HISTORIANS REPRESENT EACH GROUP AND ELDERS AND ARTISTS AND PEOPLE THAT YOU MENTIONED, WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

>> THE PEOPLE THAT I MENTIONED ARE THE CUTEATERS OF THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS AND SHAWN MOONEY WHO IS NOT NATIVE AND THEN EACH OF THE CURATORS HAD TO PUT TOGETHER A TEAM AND THE TEAMS CONSIST OF OTHER NATIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER CULTURAL KNOWLEDGE BEARERS AND WHO ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THE THEMES THAT ARE BEING COVERED, SO THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A SOLID STORY AS BEST WE CAN AND STAY RESPECTFUL OF THE KNOWLEDGE BEING COVERED.

>> Ted: HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT BALANCE?

>> IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE THE BALANCE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SHARE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE NOT JUST TO VISITORS WHO ARE NONNATIVE BUT NATIVE AND COME FROM SPECIFIC CULTURES.

YOU WANT TO PROVIDE CONTENT FOR THEM, KNOWLEDGE FOR THEM AND ALSO, YEAH, YOU HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF PROTOCOLS AND ALSO JUST UNDERSTAND THAT NOT ALL ALL KNOWLEDGE NEEDS TO BE SHARED PUBLICALLY.

>> Ted: A LOT OF ORIGIN STORIES AT PLAY?

>> NOT JUST TELLING THE ORIGIN STORY AND PICKING OUT A SPECIFIC THEME OR A CHARACTER AND EVERYONE APPROACHED IT DIFFERENTLY.

FOR THE NAVAJO SECTION, WHICH I'M MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT, I FOCUSED ON THE COYOTE AND ONE OF THE MAIN STORIES THAT STARTS OUT, THE EXHIBITION IS THE CREATION OF CONSTELLATIONS AND WHY THE STARS ARE UP IN THE SKY THE WHAT THEY ARE.

AND CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE.

>> Ted: ANYTHING WHO STARES AT THE NIGHT'S SKY AND THE SERENITY, I MEAN, THERE'S A NATURAL SPIRITY AND SPIRITUALTY AND I WOULD IMAGINE A LOT INVOLVING EXHIBITION.

>> FOR SURE.

I MEAN, MY INSPIRATION WAS ALWAYS RETURNING BACK TO WHEN I GREW UP AND LIVING OUT ON THE NAVAJO RESERVATION AWAY FROM LIGHTS AND LIGHT POLLUTION AND JUST THAT VISUAL OF THE STARS THAT I HAD, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS EXTRAORDINARY.

>> Ted: ALL ENCOMPASSING UP THERE WITH SO MUCH LIGHT.

360° SKYDOME IS INVOLVED AND DESCRIBE WHAT THAT IS.

>> WHEN YOU ENTER THE EXHIBITION, THE FIRST THING YOU COME UPON IS THE SKYDOME AFTER THE CREATION STORY SO THERE'S A SKYDOME AND EARTH DOME AND THE SKYDOME IS TWO STORIES TALL AND THE GALLERY WAS SEPARATE, FIRST FLOOR AND A SECOND FLOOR BEFORE IT WAS RENOVATED INTO WHAT IT IS NOW.

THE ENCLOSED SECTION OF IT AND, YES, 360° VIDEO, WHICH IS LANDSCAPES AND SOUNDS FROM THE FOUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

AND THIS IS PRESENTED IN THE EXHIBITION.

>> Ted: HOW DID THIS IDEA GET STARTED?

>> BEFORE I CAME ON BOARD AND SO I AM NOT ENTIRELY SURE.

I WAS THE LAST CURATOR TO BE ON BOARD.

INITIALLY, THE CULTURE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HOOPPe.

>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE FROM THIS EXHIBIT IN?

>> MANY THINGS AND ONE IS THAT THERE IS ANCESTRAL KNOWLEDGE THAT CARRIED US THROUGH THE MANY GENERATIONS OF US EXISTING HERE PRIOR TO COLONIZATION AND THIS EXHIBITION TRIES TO PAY RESPECT FROM ANCESTORS WHO GAVE US THAT KNOWLEDGE.

>> Ted: ARE YOU GETTING THAT RESPECT SO FAR?

>> I THINK SO.

PEOPLE ARE IMPRESSED WITH THE SKYDOME AND WHAT I LIKE THAT THE EXHIBITION DOES, WHICH I THINK THE HERD MUSEUM DOES IN GENERAL OR TRIES TO IS PRESENT OLDER OBJECTS RIGHT NEXT TO CONTEMPORARY OBJECTS AND THAT IS ALWAYS TO SHOW THE CONTINUUM IS STILL THERE.

>> Ted: IT SOUNDS LIKE A FANTASTIC ASSISTANTION.

VVELMA CRAIG, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!

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