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The latest on the raid of former President Trump’s Mar A Lago compound. A local Taiwanese official on the island’s conflict with China, contention brewing in the airline industry, and why pharmacy deserts exist across the city.
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Aug. 9, 2022 - Full Show
8/9/2022 | 56m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
The latest on the raid of former President Trump’s Mar A Lago compound. A local Taiwanese official on the island’s conflict with China, contention brewing in the airline industry, and why pharmacy deserts exist across the city.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.
>> I'M AMANDA VINICKY.
BRANDIS FRIEDMAN HAS THE EVENING OFF.
ON THE SHOW TONIGHT... >> NO PERSON IS ABOVE THE LAW.
>> LEGAL TROUBLES ARE MOUNTING FOR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AS THE F.B.I.
RAIDS HIS FLORIDA HOME.
WE HAVE THE LATEST.
>> CHINA HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN TAIWAN FOR YEARS.
>> TAIWAN'S TOP DIPLOMAT IN CHICAGO JOINS US TO TALK ABOUT THE ESCALATING CRISIS AS CHINA PERFORMS MILITARY DRILLS AROUND THE ISLAND.
>> WE ARE OUT HERE FIGHTING FOR OUR PASSENGERS RIGHT NOW.
>> WHAT IS DRIVING THE WAVE OF AIRLINE DELAYS AND CANCELLATIONS?
>> THERE WAS NEVER EVER ANY TALK ABOUT A TIF TO FUND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
>> THE FIRST STEPS TOWARD CREATING THE REDLINE EXTENSION TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT ARE TAKEN BUT NOT EVERYONE IS ONBOARD.
>> YOU PROBABLY HEARD OF FOOD DESERTS WHAT IMPACT ARE PHARMACY DESERTS HAVING ON CHICAGOANS ON THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDE?
>> ARTISTS FROM CHICAGO AND UKRAINE JOIN FORCES IN A CRY OF PROTEST AGAINST THE ONGOING HOSTILITIES IN THAT COUNTRY.
>> THE THING ABOUT GRACE AND FRANKIE THAT HAS BEEN SO MUCH FUN IT'S SO CHALLENGING.
>> AND WE CHECK BACK IN WITH THE EVANSTON ARTIST BEHIND 234E9 FLIX ATE SERIES GRACE AND FRANKIE.
GREAT SHOW.
FIRST, SOME OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES... >> COOK STATE'S ATTORNEY KIM FOXX SAYS HER OFFICE NO LONGER STANDS BEHIND EIGHT MURDER CONVICTIONS TIED TO REYNALDO GUEVARA, FOR YEARS ALLEGEDLY ENGAGED IN A QUOTE PATTERN AND PRACTICE OF FRAMING SUSPECTS AND MANIPULATING EVIDENCE.
>> REBUILDING THE COMMUNITY TRUST IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM REQUIRES WHEN WE FIND AN INJUSTICE WE WORK DILIGENTLY TO CORRECT IT.
TODAY, MARKS ANOTHER STEP IN THAT PROCESS AT THE COOK COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
>> THE CHARGES NOW DROPPED.
FOXX SAYS IF ANY OF THE DEFENDANTS PURSUE LAWSUITS HER OFFICE WILL NOT OPPOSE THEM.
MORE ON THE STORY ON YOUR 0 WEBSITE.
>> A GRAND JURY IN MISSISSIPPI DECLINES TO INDICT THE WHITE WOMAN WHOSE ACCUSATION LED TO THE LYNCHING OF BLACK TEENAGER EMMETT TILL DESPITE THE DISCOVERY OF AN UNSERVED ARREST WARRANT FILED 70 YEARS AGO FOR THE WOMAN, CAROLYN BRYANT DONHAM.
THE GRAND JURY HEARD MORE THAN SEVEN HOURS OF TESTIMONY FROM INVESTIGATORS AND WITNESSES AND DETERMINED THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO INDICT DONHAM ON CHARGES OF KIDNAPPING AND MANSLAUGHTER.
THE AP REPORTS THE REVEREND EMMETT TILL'S COUSIN AND THE LAST LIVING WITNESS TO TILL'S 1955 ABDUCTION IS CALLING THE ANNOUNCEMENT UNFORTUNATE BUT PREDICTABLE.
>> UP NEXT, A LOOK AT WHAT LEGAL TROUBLES FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT FACE AFTER THE F.B.I.
RAIDS HIS HOME.
STAY WITH US.
>> Announcer: "CHICAGO TONIGHT" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY... >> FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S LEGAL PROBLEMS ARE MOUNTING THE LATEST BEING THE F.B.I.
EXECUTING A SEARCH WARRANT AT TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO ESTATE IN FLORIDA LAST NIGHT.
CNN IS REPORTING THE RAID IS PART OF AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE HANDLING OF PRESIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS INCLUDING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL.
THE FORMER PRESIDENT CALLED THE SEARCH A QUOTE ASSAULT AND SUPPORTERS AND MEDIA ALLIES SPUN IT AS A POLITICAL PERSECUTION.
AND HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE UNPRECEDENTED SEARCH ARE JOE WALSH A FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN FROM ILLINOIS AND HOST OF THE PODCAST WHITE FLAG WITH JOE WALSH.
ZACH FARDON WHO IS U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS FROM 2013-2017 NOW A PARTNER AT KING AND SPALDING.
AND RENATO MARRIOTTI A LEGAL ANALYST ALSO A FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR.
WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
ZACH FARDON REMIND OUR VIEWERS WHAT GOES INTO APPROVING A SEARCH WARRANT LIKE THIS?
>> GOOD EVENING, PARIS.
SO IT'S A PRETTY INVOLVED PROCESS.
TWO OF THE THREE BRANCHES OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN FACT HAVE TO SIGN OFF FOR THIS KIND OF SEARCH WARRANT TO OCCUR.
THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THE F.B.I., THE FEDERAL PROSECUTORS AND THEN THE JUDICIARY, A FEDERAL JUDGE WHAT THE SUPREME COURT CALLS A NEUTRAL AND DETACHED MAGISTRATE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO LOOK AT THE SEARCH WARRANT AND AFFIDAVIT AND DECIDE IF THERE'S PROBABLE CAUSE TO SUPPORT THE SEARCH AND THEN THAT JUDGE HAS TO ANALYZE THE AFFIDAVIT AND SEARCH WARRANT TO DETERMINE PROBABLE CAUSE NOT FOR ONE BUT FOR TWO THINGS: FIRST THAT A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED, AND SECOND THERE WILL BE EVIDENCE RELATED TO THE CRIME IN THE PLACE TO BE SEARCHED.
SO IT IS A VERY ARDUOUS PROCESS.
>> A HIGH STANDARD THAT HAS TO BE MET.
RENATO MARRIOTTI WHY AND IT CAN'T BE LOST ON PROSECUTORS HERE, THE OPTICS OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THEY ACTED WITH URGENCY IN THIS INVESTIGATION THAT HAS GONE ON FOR MONTHS THAT WE KNOW OF INTO THESE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, SASS ZACH SUGGESTED THEY HAD TO HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IN THIS CASE WAS ACTUALLY IN THAT HOUSE.
I SUSPECT THEY HAD FRESH EVIDENCE OR INFORMATION INDICATING THAT THIS EVIDENCE WAS IN THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S HOME.
AND I THINK ONE OBVIOUS IMPLICATION THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD NOT OBTAIN THAT EVIDENCE IF THEY REQUESTED IT.
THAT THEY FELT THERE WAS SOME URGENCY THAT THEY WOULD NOT ACTUALLY GET THE INFORMATION UNLESS THEY WENT AND SEIZED IT.
>> AND THAT IS ANYONE'S SPECULATION.
JOE WALSH THE PRESIDENT CONDEMNS THIS AND STARTS SENDING OUT A FUNDRAISING LETTER AND ALLIES IN THE MEDIA ARE USING SIMILAR MESSAGING.
HOW DEEP IS THE ANGER AND CONFUSION AMONG HIS BASE?
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, PARIS.
LOOK, I'VE NEVER SEEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BASE THIS ANIMATED, THIS ANGRY.
AND PARIS IT'S BEYOND THE BASE.
I'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY REPUBLICANS IN THE LAST 24 HOURS THAT YOU WOULDN'T CONSIDER HARDCORE TRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO ARE REALLY BOTHERED BY WHAT HAPPENED.
THIS IS SCARY BECAUSE, RIGHT NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, THE F.B.I.
JUST DOING THEIR JOB.
TRUMP'S A CRIMINAL AND HAS BEEN A CRIMINAL HIS WHOLE LIFE BUT POLITICALLY, PARIS, THIS IS GOING TO STRENGTHEN TRUMP WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
OF THAT, I HAVE NO DOUBT.
>> AND IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S TAKING THAT APPROACH AS WELL.
ZACH FARDON, I THINK BACK TO SOME OF THE HIGH PROFILE RAIDS HERE IN RECENT YEARS, ED BURKE, MICHAEL MADIGAN, CARRIE AUSTIN, DO PROSECUTORS AND INVESTIGATORS AND AGENTS THINK ABOUT THE OPTICS OF HIGH PROFILE CASES LIKE THIS AND HOW THIS MIGHT BE PERCEIVED IN THE MEDIA ONCE THEY DO IT?
>> 100%, YES, AND IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, YES, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW AND THE NEXT BREATH THEY WILL SAY THIS SEARCH WARRANT AND THIS PROCESS RECEIVED OUR MUCH MORE SCRUTINY FROM MANY MORE EYES AT HIGH LEVEL EXPERIENCE PROCESS CUE ACTIVE LEVELS UP TO THE AG IN THE SEARCH OF MY HOME OR YOUR HOME PARIS WOULD EVER INVOLVE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE PROBABLE CAUSE PLUS THEY WILL BE FINDFUL OF THE ATTENTION THAT THIS WOULD COLLECT.
I DON'T THINK THE FALLOUT THAT IS BEING REALIZED RIGHT NOW WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
WHICH TO ME, MEANS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE VERY BUTTON DOWN AND CAREFUL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONLY THEY HAVE THE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT SEARCH WARRANT AFFIDAVIT BUT ALSO THAT IT IS SUFFICIENTLY PRUDENT AND NECESSARY TO RENATO MARRIOTTI'S POINT NECESSARY TO COLLECT EVIDENCE AND INFORMATION RELATED TO CRIMINAL CONDUCT THAT IT WARRANTS THAT KIND OF FALLOUT.
>> AND RENATO MARRIOTTI, THIS CASE OF THE PRESIDENT ALLEGEDLY TAKING MATERIALS THAT BELONG IN THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND NOT GIVING THEM BACK, SOME POSSIBLY CLASSIFIED HOW SERIOUS A POTENTIAL CRIME IS IT AND WHAT KIND OF POTENTIAL PUNISHMENT DOES IT CARRY?
>> IT IS A FELONY.
IT WOULD CARRY A PRISON SENTENCE UP TO YEARS IN PRISON.
TYPICALLY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T PROSECUTE CASES INVOLVING HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION UNLESS THERE ARE WILLFUL TRANSFERS TO THIRD PERSON.
I SUSPECT THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW BUT IT IS UNLIKELY THIS ENTREPRENEURLY THAT THERE WAS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AND THIS IS HOW THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SOUGHT TO OBTAIN IT.
PERHAPS THEY WERE MISLED BY TRUMP'S ATTORNEYS OR ANOTHER REASON WHETHER IT'S THE DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE OR SOMETHING ELSE, SHARING OF EVIDENCE TO THIRD PARTIES THAT THEY FELT THEY NEEDED TO GO IN.
>> JOE WALSH YOU MENTIONED THIS IS STRENGTHENING TRUMP IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THIS SEEMS TO BE A DYNAMIC WE'VE SEEN PLAY OUT WHEN HE SEEMS TO BE IN LEGAL TROUBLE HE SPINS IT AROUND AND PLAYS THE VICTIM AND IT WORKS.
EXPLAIN THAT DYNAMIC FOR US?
>> PARIS, NOTHING IS BETTER FOR TRUMP THAN WHEN HE CAN SAY I'M THE VICTIM, THE DEEP STATE IS COMING AFTER ME.
AND THEY ARE COMING AFTER YOU, TOO.
MY, GOD, I'VE HEARD FROM HUNDREDS OF REPUBLICANS TODAY WHO HAVE TOLD ME THOSE VERY WORDS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS WEIRD DYNAMIC IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHERE TRUMP IS GOING TO BE STRONGER IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND I THINK THIS WILL COMPEL HIM TO COME OUT AND ANNOUNCE SOONER THAN HE WOULD HAVE, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO MAKE HIM MUCH WEAKER IN THE BODY POLITIC OUTSIDE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BECAUSE IT PUTS THE SPOTLIGHT ON HIM.
AND IT REMINDS EVERY AMERICAN OF WHAT AN UNFIT, CORRUPT GUY HE IS.
>> ZACH FARDON TO THOSE CONCERNS AMONG TRUMP SUPPORTERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE POLITICS PLAYS ANY ROLE IN THIS OR THAT IN SOME WAY THIS IS A POLITICAL PERSECUTION?
>> I DON'T, PARIS.
I MEAN TWO POINTS: FIRST TO MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE A DOZEN YEARS WITH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND ESPECIALLY IN SITUATIONS LIKE THESE THAT ARE GOING TO BE HIGHLY SCRUTINIZED POLITICS ARE PUT ASIDE.
THESE LAWYERS AND AGENTS ARE NOT THAT STUPID TO LET POLITICS TO BE THE CHIN THAT LEADS THEM TO A PUNCH FROM THE PUBLIC ON SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS THIS.
SECOND POINT, EQUALLY IMPORTANT, CHRISTOPHER WRAY THE F.B.I.
DIRECTOR IS A TRUMP APPOINTEE.
HE IS A REPUBLICAN.
HE IS SOMEBODY I'VE KNOWN FOR DECADES.
HE IS A PERSON OF HONESTY AND INTEGRITY AND I DO NOT BELIEVE HE IS GOING TO ALLOW POLITICS TO HAVE INFECTED HIS DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE BUTTONED DOWN FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE AND THE FACTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME OUT, BUT WE DON'T CURRENTLY KNOW, ABSOLUTELY WARRANT AND JUSTIFIED THE NECESSITY OF DOING THIS BY SEARCH WARRANT AND NOT SOME OTHER LAWFUL PROCESS.
>> ZACH, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE HIGH PROFILE RAIDS, BURKE, CARRIE AUSTIN, MICHAEL MADIGAN,ETAL, THE DOCUMENTS CAME WITHIN A FEW MONTHS AFTER THAT.
WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH PROFILE SEARCH WARRANT DOES THAT MEAN THAT AN INVESTIGATION IS CLOSE TO THE LEVEL WHERE CHARGES MIGHT BE BROUGHT?
OR NOT NECESSARILY?
>> NOT NECESSARILY IS THE ANSWER.
YOU ARE RIGHT TYPICALLY A SEARCH WARRANT COMES TOWARD THE END OF A PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS A LOUD EVENT IN A LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION.
AND YOU SAY THAT.
YOU DO EVERYTHING COVERTLY BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING OVERTLY.
THIS IS POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT.
WE'RE SPECULATING BUT BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, IT WOULD BE A LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TO ITSELF TO RECOLLECT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN MISS APPROPRIATED OR IS SOMEPLACE IT SHOULD NOT BE HELD.
WE DON'T KNOW.
IT WOULD BE SPECULATION TO SUGGEST THAT CHARGES ARE COMING OR WHEN THEY MIGHT COME IN LIGHT OF THE UNDERLYING NATURE.
>> THERE'S REPORTING ABOUT THE DOJ'S INTEREST IN TRUMP'S ACTIONS AROUND JANUARY 6.
WOULD ASSUME THAT IS A SEPARATE INVESTIGATION THAT IS GOING ON?
OR COULD THESE BE TIED TOGETHER SOMEHOW?
>> GIVEN THE PUBLIC REPORTING BY NUMEROUS SOURCES, THAT THIS IS RELATED TO CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CONNECTED TO THE JANUARY 6TH INVESTIGATION.
I MEAN THE RECENT REPORTS THAT WE'VE HEARD REGARDING THAT INVOLVE PENCE AIDES, MARK SHORT AND OTHERS WHO TESTIFIED REGARDING THIS SO-CALLED FACT ELECTOR SCHEME I DON'T THINK THAT HAS AN OBVIOUS CONNECTION TO THIS.
THIS APPEARS TO BE UNCONNECTED.
>> JOE WALSH WE HAVE KEVIN McCARTHY THREATENING INVESTIGATIONS OF THE INVESTIGATORS, IF THE GOP ASSUMES CONTROL.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE IF THEY DO TAKE BACK THE HOUSE IS THIS GOING TO BE INVESTIGATION HEARING AFTER HEARING ON SOME OF THESE THINGS?
>> HUNTER BIDEN, HUNTER BIDEN, HUNTER BIDEN.
THAT IS PROBABLY ALL YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT.
YES, THE REPUBLICANS ALL THEY WILL DO IS INVESTIGATE PEOPLE.
WHAT I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THIS...
THE LANGUAGE THAT McCARTHY AND ALL OF MY FORMER COLLEAGUES AND PEOPLE ON FOX NEWS AND WHITE WING TALK RADIO USED LAST NIGHT AND TODAY, AND SO MANY REPUBLICAN ELECTED OFFICIALS, IS SO IRRESPONSIBLE AND HAS BEEN SO DANGEROUS.
I WORRY ABOUT VIOLENCE.
IT'S LIKE THEY HAVE NOT LEARNED ANYTHING FROM JANUARY 6 THESE REPUBLICANS.
THEY DON'T CARE.
AND I REALLY WORRY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT VIOLENCE.
>> WE SHOULD NOTE WE DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS OTHER THAN THAT HAS BEEN OUT THERE AND REPORTED AND THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY CONCLUSIONS.
ALL THREE OF YOU HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE WITH YOUR ANALYSIS AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
THANKS TO JOE WALSH, SOUTH DAKOTA ZACH FARDON AND RENATO MARRIOTTI.
>> THANKS, PARIS.
>> TO AMANDA AND THE AIRPORT DELAYS.
>> A WAVE OF AIRLINE DELAYS AND CANCELLATIONS IS AFFECTING MUCH OF THE COUNTRY.
YESTERDAY, 45% OF FLIGHTS OUT OF O'HARE WERE DELAYED ACCORDING TO FLIGHT TRACKER FLIGHT AWARE.
ON TOP OF THAT PILOTS ARE RAISING ALARMS AROUND ISSUES LIKE FATIGUE.
JOINING US ARE DENNIS TAJER, AND AMERICAN AIRLINES PILOT AND SPOKESMAN FOR THE ALLIED PILOTS ASSOCIATION.
AND REPRESENTING AMERICAN AIRLINES PILOTS.
AND JOSEPH SCHWIETERMAN PROFESSOR IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE DePAUL UNIVERSITY.
WE REACHED OUT TO AMERICAN AIRLINES TO ARE THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND THE COMPANY DID NOT RESPOND TO OUR REQUEST.
SO JOE, TO YOU, WHAT ON EARTH AND IN THE SKIES IS CAUSING THE CANCELLATIONS AND DELAYS?
>> WHAT A SUMMER IT'S BEEN.
IN JUNE WE HAD TREMENDOUS CANCELLATIONS SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT SEEN IN AVIATION DURING QUITE SOMETIME DURING A PEAK SEASON LIKE THAT.
THE AIRLINES TRIED TO RESPOND AND CUT FLIGHTS, BUT, BOY, NOW WE HAVE LATE FLIGHTS THAT HAVE JUST CHRONIC AND O'HARE WAS CENTER STAGE FOR THAT LIKE EVERY AIRLINE PICKS THE DAY IT WANTS TO HAVE A BAD DAY.
THIS WEEK WAS TOUGH FOR AMERICAN AND UNITED.
>> AND SO TO YOU, DENNIS, RECENTLY YOU DID HAVE AMERICAN AIRLINES PILOTS PICKETING DOWNTOWN.
THIS WAS NOT A STRIKE.
IT WAS INFORMATIONAL.
WHAT DO PILOTS WANT THEIR COMPANY AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF?
>> WE'VE GOT TO FIX THIS.
IT IS MANAGEMENT'S FEET IT'S THEIR HANDS THAT -- THEY WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THE RECOVERY.
THEY DID NOT HAVE PILOTS TRAINED WITH THE $54 BILLION INVESTMENT.
SURE IT KEPT THE AIRLINES FROM COLLAPSING BUT AMERICAN DID NOT KEEP PILOTS CURRENT AND TRAINED.
THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM THAT AND THEY SOLD TICKETS AS SECRETARY BUTTIGIEG SAID THEY SOLD TICKETS THEY CANNOT SERVICE.
AND IN JUNE 800,000 PASSENGERS IMPACTED BY CANCELLATIONS AT AMERICAN.
IN JULY 500,000.
AUGUST MONTH TO DATE 200,000.
AND THAT PUTS THEM ON TRACK TO MATCH THAT MONTH OF JUNE AND IN CHICAGO THE WEEKEND TOOK A LOOK AT THAT.
144 FLIGHTS AT AMERICAN, 22,000 PASSENGERS.
AND 42% OF THOSE FLIGHTS SOME OF IT WAS WEATHER BUT THE RECOVERY 42% OF THOSE FLIGHTS CANCELED AFTER THAT WERE DUE TO INABILITY TO CONNECT A PILOT TO THE AIRPLANE.
IT'S THE FUNDAMENTALS OF AIRLINE BUSINESS.
AND THEY HAVE FAILED TO DO THAT GOING INTO THE SECOND SUMMER.
AND THERE IS A CRISIS.
>> AND THAT IS LEAVING PILOTS WHO ARE ABLE TO FLY PLANES SUCH AS YOURSELF RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING UP MORE JOBS.
THAT IS LEAVING YOU TIRED, SCARY NOBODY WANTS A SPLEENY PILOT?
>> ARE YOU NOT GOING TO GET ONE.
THE F.A.A.
MANDATES WE DON'T NOT FLY BEFORE FATIGUE.
I HAVE TO CHECK A BOX FOR DUTY.
DUTY.
MY DUTY IS TO PROTECT OUR PASSENGERS.
SO EVEN IF I'M LEGAL, I AM NOT PERMITTED TO FLY THE AIRPLANE IF I AM FATIGUED.
WHEN YOU'RE FATIGUED THE FIRST THING THAT GOES IS YOUR JUDGMENT.
THEY ARE RECKLESSLY UTILIZING US TO PACK MORE INTO THE SCHEDULE AND IF WE HAVE A SAYING ON THE FLIGHT DECK JUST BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL DOES NOT MEAN IT'S SAFE OR SMART.
AND WE ARE GOING TO HOLD-UP THAT MARGIN OF SAFETY AGAINST THAT PRESSURE BUT WE ARE HUMAN YOU HAVE TO STOP PUSHING US.
>> JOSEPH SCHWIETERMAN IS THIS MORE A WORKER SHORTAGE OR A WORKER CONDITIONS ISSUE?
IT IS A TRAVELERS' ONE?
>> IT IS A GRADUAL PROCESS YEARS AGO I WORKED IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY.
IT IS A JOB OF CHOICE PEOPLE WANTED TO STAY FOR LIFE AND IT WAS A FAMILY.
AND BOY, THE PANDEMIC HAS JUST RIPPED AWAY THAT THE AIRLINE CULTURE.
THE RECOVERY HAS BEEN PACKED IN FULL FLIGHTS.
AND JUST LED TO A MUCH MORE STRESSFUL ENVIRONMENT.
YOU THROW THE CANCELLATIONS AND DELAYS ON THERE, THE NERVES GET FRAYED AND THE PILOTS REALLY AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF THEIR JOBS.
YOU ARE SEEING THE ATTRITION FOR PILOTS AND HOURS NEEDED TO HIRE NEW PILOTS.
THE AIRLINES MAYBE WILL NOT ADMIT IT BUT THEY LET TOO MANY PILOTS INCENTIVIZE PILOTS TO RETIRE AND NOW THAT RECOVERY IS SO ROCKY IT WILL TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO WORK ITS WAY OUT.
BUT IT DID TAKE CANCELED FLIGHTS FOR AAUGUST AND BEYOND BUT IT HASN'T PROVEN TO BE ENOUGH.
>> COULD THEY BRING THE RETIRED PILOTS BACK?
DURING THE PANDEMIC GOVERNMENTS ENTICED RETIRED DOCTORS TO HELP WITH HEALTHCARE WORKER SHORTAGES?
>> GREAT QUESTION.
AND SURPRISING I THINK HOW MANY PILOTS ONCE THEY LEAVE SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GOING BACK IS NOT MY FIRST CHOICE.
THEY LANDED ANOTHER CARRIER.
THERE'S A LOT OF JOBS IN CARGO THAT ARE LESS STRESSFUL AND DENNIS CAN TAKE A WHACK AT THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT TAKES IN R MANY, MANY MONTHS TO RAMP UP.
AND AMERICANS ARE READY TO GO.
THE DEMAND IS EXCITING AND DESPITE THE FUEL PRICES THE PLANES ARE PACKED AND THE FORMULA IS NOT WORKING.
>> AND DENNIS, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STEPPED IN FEDERALLY.
REFRESH US WHAT IS DOT TRYING TO DO TO GET THE AIRLINES IN LINE?
>> WELL, BUTTIGIEG SAYS YOU NEED TO STRESS TEST YOUR OPERATIONS.
AND YOU NEED TO NOT SELL TICKETS THAT YOU CANNOT SERVICE.
HERE, HERE.
SOUNDS LIKE LOGIC BUT TO THE POINT OF PILOTS COMING BACK FROM RETIREMENT.
A LOT OF TRAINING IS REQUIRED.
THIS IS WHERE THE EPIC FAILURE PARTICULARLY AT AMERICAN IS AT IS IN THE TRAINING OF THE PILOTS THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK THEY WERE NOT PREPARED FOR SCHOOL DAYS WHICH IS THE RECOVERY AND HERE WE SIT.
THE $54 BILLION TAXPAYERS PUT IN TO EN HE SURE WE'RE READY FOR THE RECOVERY.
I FLEW EMPTY AIRPORTS OUT OF CHICAGO WITH DOCTORS ONBOARD.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PROCESS WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WANT TO FLY OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM WAS NOT READY TO GET IT DONE.
>> SK IT DOES TAKE AS YOU NOTED 1500 HOURS OR SOMETHING OF FLIGHT TIME.
WHEN WILL THIS GET RESOLVED MORE PILOTS?
>> IT'S GOING TO BE A FEW YEARS.
THAT IS HOW FAR BEHIND THEY ARE.
AND THERE ARE NO QUICK FIXES TO THIS.
AT AMERICAN A PILOT GETTING HIRED TODAY WON'T TOUCH AN AIRPLANE WITH PASSENGERS THEY ARE SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS GETTING PILOTS TRAINED.
>> YIKES TO THOSE LOOKING TO FLY AND JET OFF SOMEWHERE NICE.
WHAT DO TRAVELERS NEED TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU'RE BOOKING A FLIGHT?
>> WE'RE SEEING THE AIRLINES RESPOND AND GROUNDING THE SMALLER AIRPLANES, GOING TO BIGGER AIRPLANES SO THEY CAN STRETCH THE LABOR FARTHER.
FOR PASSENGERS WE'RE SEEING THAT INTEREST IN NONSTOP FLIGHTS.
AVOIDING THE CONNECTIONS AND COMING TO THE AIRPORT WITH SORT OF A PLAN B IN MIND.
IF YOU YOUR FLIGHT IS LATE BRING FOOD OR SOMETHING TO READ PLAN HOW YOU WILL HANDLE BEING WITH THOUSANDS OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO OFTEN ARE STUCK.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO THE AIRPORT PSYCHOLOGICALLY SPENT BEFORE THE TRIP STARTS.
>> PACK THAT CARRY ON INSTEAD OF CHECKING YOUR LUGGAGE BRING READING MATERIAL OR YOUR APP TO WATCH "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
THANK YOU TO DENNIS TAJER AND TO JOSEPH SCHWIETERMAN.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> UP NEXT, ARTISTS UNITE IN A CREATIVE PROTEST AGAINST THE ONGOING WAR IN UKRAINE.
STAY WITH US.
MUCH MORE AHEAD INCLUDING TAIWAN'S TOP DIPLOMAT IN CHICAGO.
FIRST AN ART SHOW IN THE UKRAINIAN VILLAGE IS A PROTEST AGAINST THE ONGOING WAR IN UKRAINE.
ARTISTS FROM CHICAGO AND UKRAINE ARE RAISING THEIR VOICES IN OPPOSITION TO THE RUSSIAN INVASION.
MARC VITALI VISITED THE ARC GALLERY FOR A LOOK AT LIFE AND ART DURING WARTIME.
[♪♪♪] >> THERE IS A SENSE OF URGENCY IN THE NEW ARTWORK AND ILLUSIONS TO THE PAST ONE PAINTING USES A WORLD WAR II UNIFORM AS A CANVAS.
BEYOND THE ART IN THE PHYSICAL GALLERY THERE ARE VIRTUAL VIEWS FROM AROUND THE WORLD MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SHOW.
THE CALL FOR ENTRIES BROUGHT A BIG RESPONSE >> I LOOKED AT ALL OF THE 325 IMAGES THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY 89 ARTISTS.
AND I DIDN'T MAKE ANY KIND OF SELECTION AT FIRST.
I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE TONE WAS OF ALL THE WORK.
AND I RECOGNIZED THAT EACH ARTIST WOULD HAVE A HIGHLY PERSONALIZED RESPONSE TO THE CALL.
WHICH WAS TO RESPOND TO THE IMPACT OF WAR.
WE NEEDED THE VOICES OF ARTISTS WHO WERE THERE OR WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS TRAUMA OR WHO WERE KEEPING DIARIES OF EVENTS.
THE BOMBING OF MARIUPOL HAD WE SAW A NUMBER OF BOMBED OUT APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND ALSO IN KYIV AND KHARKIV AND ALL OVER.
AND THERE IS A SENSE OF FATE AND RANDOMNESS THAT OCCURS WITH WAR.
I THINK WHETHER YOU GET HIT WITH THE BULLET OR YOUR APARTMENT IS BOMBED OR OUR NEIGHBOR'S IS RANDOM.
>> THE EXHIBITION IS AT ARC GALLERY FOUNDED BY WOMEN ARTISTS IN CHICAGO IN 1973.
THE LATEST SHOW WAS SELECTED BY THE CURATOR OF THE UKRAINIAN INSTITUTE OF MODERN ART.
HER MOTHER WAS BORN IN UKRAINE BEFORE WORLD WAR II >> MY MOTHER SHE ESCAPED DURING WORLD WAR II.
WAS ALLOWED TO EMIGRATE AND WE ENDED UP IN CHICAGO.
I'M FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN BUT I HAVE COWORKERS WHOSE MOTHERS ARE IN KYIV, AND CARE CALLING EVERYDAY TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE OK.
THEY ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING UPDATES BUT WE WERE TRAUMATIZED BY THE NEWS AND GLUED TO THE MEDIA AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DO WE DO BECAUSE WE'RE HERE.
>> DOCUMENTARY PHOTOS REVEAL LIFE IN A BUNKER.
THE SHOW IS TITLED THE INVISIBLE COSTS OF WAR AND MANY WORKS ARE ABOUT CHILDREN CAUGHT UP IN THE WARS >> THE INVISIBLE ARE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS THAT APPEAR LATER.
THERE'S CONSCIOUS AWARENESS AND FEAR OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO TO THE CHILDREN THAT ARE LIVING THROUGH THIS.
WILL THEY THINK THIS IS NORMAL?
PROTECTING CHILDREN IS PART OF UKRAINIAN CULTURE AND ALSO PROBABLY PROVOKED BY THIS KIND OF SITUATION.
MOTHERS REALLY WATCH OUT FOR THE CHILDREN.
WHILE THE FATHERS ARE OUT FIGHTING.
>> FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" THIS IS MARC VITALI.
>> AND THE SHOW IS ATED ARC GALLERY ON CHICAGO AVENUE THROUGH SATURDAY.
>> AND STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT", THE FIRST STEPS TOWARD CREATING A REDLINE EXTENSION TIF DISTRICT IS TAKEN BUT NOT EVERYONE IS ONBOARD.
>> TENSIONS ARE HIGH AS CHINA PERFORMS LIVE FIRE MILITARY EXERCISES AND TAIWAN RESPONDS.
>> AND YOU HEARD OF FOOD DESERT WHAT IS IMPACT ARE PHARMACY DESERTS HAVING ON THE HEALTH OF CHICAGOANS ON THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES?
>> THE THING ABOUT GRACE AND FRANKIE THAT HAS BEEN SO MUCH FUN IS IT'S SO CHALLENGING.
>> AND WE CHECK BACK IN WITH AN EVANSTON ARTIST BEHIND NETFLIX'S LONGEST RUNNING ORIGINAL SERIES GRACE AND FRANKIE.
FIRST, SOME OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES... >> SOURCES CONFIRMED TO WTTW NEWS THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT'S HEAD OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING AND REFORM HAS BEEN FORCED OUT BY SUPERINTENDENT DAVID BROWN.
ROBERT BOIK HAD BEEN THE POINT PERSON AT C.P.D.
ENSURING THE DEPARTMENT COMPLIES WITH THE FEDERALLY MANDATED CONSENT DECREE.
BOIK SERVED AS CHIEF OF STAFF TO FORMER SUPERINTENDENTS EDDIE JOHNSON AND CHARLIE BECK.
BOIK WAS NO LONGER WITH THE DEPARTMENT BUT DID NOT GIVE A REASON FOR THE TERMINATION.
SOURCES TELL WTTW NEWS BOIK ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFERS TO HELP TRAIN POLICE OFFICERS TO COMPLY WITH THAT CONSENT DECREE.
BROWN REFUSED AND INSTEAD TOOK AWAY 46 OFFICERS.
SOURCES SAY THAT MOVE MADE IT HARDER FOR C.P.D.
TO MEET MANY OF THE CONSENT DECREE DEMANDS.
NOW C.P.D.
SAYS TINA SKA HILL A DOP DEPUTY WILL TAKEOVER THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING AND REFORM TODAY.
>> WORKERS AT HOWARD BROWN HEALTH ONE OF THE NATION'S LARGEST LGBTQ ORGANIZATIONS HAVE UNIONIZED.
97% OF WORKERS VOTED IN FAVOR WITH THE ILLINOIS NURSE'S ASSOCIATION.
WORKERS LAUNCHED THE UNION CAMPAIGN ALLEGING LOW STAFFING AND LONG HOURS.
AMONG MANY OTHER ISSUES.
>> THE LITTLE TROUBLE IN BEAR DICE.
STAND OUTLINE BACKER ROQUAN SMITH OFFICIALLY REQUESTED A TRADE FROM THE TEAM.
THIS AS NEGOTIATIONS FOR A NEW CONTRACT STALL.
SMITH PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING IT WAS QUOTE A DREAM COME TRUE TO PUT THE BEARS AALE HELMET ON HE BELIEVES THE NEW FRONT OFFICE DOESN'T VALUE HIM.
HE LEFT OPEN THE POSSIBILITY OF THE McCASKEY FAMILY TO STEP IN AND AS OF NOW HE DOES NOT SEE A PATH FORWARD.
>> AND NOW AMANDA WE TOSS IT BACK TO YOU.
>> THANKS, PARIS.
THE PROPOSAL TO USE PROPERTY TAX MONEY TO FUND THE MULTIBILLION DOLLARS EXTENSION OF THE C.T.A.
'S REDLINE FACES A MURKY FUTURE.
MEMBERS OF A COMMISSION VOTED TO GET STARTED ON THE LIGHTFOOT BACKED PROPOSAL IT WOULD CREATE A NEW TAX INCREASE.
FINANCING DISTRICT ON THE TIF ON THE SOUTHERN BRANCH OF THE REDLINE TO GENERATE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS BY FUNNELING INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUES FROM THE 42, THIRD, FOURTH AND 25TH WARDS.
SOME MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL SAY IT WOULD HARM THEIR RESIDENTS.
WTTW NEWS REPORTER HEATHER CHERONE JOINING US WITH MORE.
THANK YOU, HEATHER.
WHAT MAKES THIS PROPOSAL TO GET THE REDLINE EXTENSION OFF THE GROUND SO UNUSUAL?
>> THIS FIVE-MILE EXTENSION UNDER CONSIDERATION SINCE THE 1950s, WOULD BE FUNDED WITH PROPERTY TAXES FROM RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OF DOWNTOWN AND AREAS SOUTH OF THE LOOP WHICH ARE REALLY BOOMING.
BUT, OF COURSE, THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE MILES AWAY FROM WHERE THIS NEW TRAIN TRACKS WILL BE LED AND THERE'S SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS TRAIN LINE EXTENSION.
>> AND SO PERHAPS THEIR ALDERPEOPLE FRUSTRATED THEIR RESIDENTS WOULD BE PAYING FOR AN EXTENSION THAT THOSE VOTERS WOULDN'T BE BENEFITING FROM, RIGHT?
>> EXACTLY.
>> IN A RARE APPEARANCE PUBLICLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSAL BACKED BY THE MAYOR, ALDERMAN PAT DOWELL HAD THIS TO SAY ABOUT IT.
>> I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE POTENTIAL PRECEDENT BEING SET THAT WILL ALLOW GEOGRAPHICALLY UNCONNECTED PROJECTS TO BE FUNDED JUST BY SIMPLY RAIDING WELL CAPITALIZED TIFS.
THE MORE I ANALYZE THE PROPOSAL, STUDIED ITS IMPACT ON MY COMMUNITY AND TALKED WITH MY CITY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE TRANSIT TIF, THE MORE I REALIZED THAT THIS WAS A BAD DEAL FOR MY RESIDENTS.
>> WHY DOES ALDERWOMAN DOWELL THINK THIS TRANSIT TIF IS A BAD DEAL OF RESIDENTS FOR HER WARD WHICH INCLUDES BRONZEVILLE.
>> TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICTS ARE A COMPLICATED WAY TO USE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES TO FIGHT BLIGHT.
AND IF MONEY THAT IS GENERATED IN BRONZEVILLE HEADS SOUTH TO THE NEW TRAIN EXTENSION THERE WILL BE LESS MONEY AVAILABLE FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN BRONZEVILLE WHICH MIGHT BE BOOMING NOW BUT FACED DECADES OF DISINVESTMENT AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING ALDERWOMAN DOWELL IS PREPARED TO SUPPORT.
FINANCES, IT IS A ZERO SUM GAME.
>> NEVER ENOUGH MONEY THAT IS ANOTHER THING WE KNOW.
ALSO HAVE ALDERMAN BEALE WHOSE WARD WOULD BENEFIT.
OPPOSING THE PROPOSAL.
HOW COME?
>> HE HAS BEEN WORKING FOR THIS FOR DECADES LITERALLY.
BUT HE SAYS THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
MOSTLY BECAUSE HE SAYS THIS SHOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THEY SHOULD PICK UP THE WHOLE BILLION MULTIBILLION DOLLAR PRICE TAG THROUGH THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AND BASICALLY CARRY THE ENTIRE BURDEN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
BUT HE IS GOING TO PUSH FOR IT.
HE SAID THE CITY SHOULD SEND DELEGATIONS TO WASHINGTON D.C. AND SPRINGFIELD.
AND ALDERMAN BEALE IS A FREQUENT CRITIC OF LORI LIGHTFOOT IT IS NOT PERHAPS SURPRISING THAT HE IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THIS ISSUE.
>> TYPICALLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIRES MATCHING DOLLARS FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO FUND PROJECTS.
WHAT IS NEXT?
>> WELL, AS YOU SAID TODAY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION STARTED THE PROCESS TO CREATE THIS BRAND NEW TRANSIT TIF DISTRICT.
BUT THERE IS A LONG WAY TO GO.
AND IT MUST BE SIGNED OFF ON BY THE CHICAGO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH SEEMS PERHAPS, IN DOUBT AFTER TODAY'S PUBLIC APPEARANCES.
I REACHED OUT TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR A RESPONSE TO ALDERMAN DOWELL'S COMMENTS AND THEY DID NOT GET BACK TO ME SO WE HAVE TO WATCH THIS ONE.
>> THANK YOU, SO MUCH HEATHER.
>> THANKS.
>> AND YOU CAN READ HEATHER'S FULL STORY AND 0 OUR WEBSITE, WTTW.COM/NEWS.
AND NOW TO PARIS AND TAIWAN'S TOP DIPLOMAT IN CHICAGO.
PARIS?
>> NOW, WE TURN TO THE LOCAL VIEW OF THE CONFLICT BETWEEN TAIWAN AND CHINA.
CHINA'S PEOPLE'S LIBERATION ARMY IS PERFORMING LIVE FIRE MILITARY EXERCISES IN THE WATERS AROUND TAIWAN FOR THE SIXTH STRAIGHT DAY.
THE EXERCISES HAVE RIZZABLE ILLUSTRATION OF CHINA'S FURRY OVER LAST WEEK'S VISIT TO THE ISLAND BY'S CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION LED BY HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI.
TAIWAN'S FOREIGN MINISTER WU SAID CHINA'S ANGER WAS A PRETEXT FOR CHINA TO LAUNCH MILITARY DRILLS TO HELP PREPARE FOR A FUTURE INVASION.
SPEAKING TO CNN WU ADMITTED HE WAS WORRIED.
>> I WORRY THAT CHINA MAY REALLY LAUNCH A WAR AGAINST TAIWAN.
BUT WHAT IT'S DOING RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO SCARE US AND THE WAY TO SHOW TO CHINA THAT WE ARE NOT SCARED.
>> AND JOINING US WITH MORE IS JOHNSON CHIANG, DIRECTOR GENERAL OF THE TAIPEI ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL OFFICE IN CHICAGO TAIWAN'S DE FACTO CONSULATE HERE IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.
DIRECTOR JOHNSON CHIANG THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
ARE ARE YOU WORRIED LIKE THE FOREIGN MINISTER THE EXERCISES COULD LEAD TO SOME KIND OF CONFLICT IN THE NEAR FUTURE?
>> WELL, I THINK AS THE MINISTER SAID, WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROVOCATIVE ESCALATION BY BEIJING TO USE SPEAKER PELOSI'S VISIT AS A PRETEXT TO CONDUCT MILITARY DRILLS AGAINST TAIWAN AND ALSO DESTABILIZING THE REGIONAL SECURITY INCLUDING THE WATERS OF JAPAN.
SO WE ARE CONCERNED EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE ALSO CALLED FOR DIALOGUES FOR DIFFERENCES AND IN THE MEANTIME TAIWAN WILL BE CONTINUING TO BE SELF RESTRAINT.
>> AND WHY DO YOU THINK CHINA HAS CHOSEN TO MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL OF PELOSI'S VISIT?
YOU BELIEVE THIS IS PRETEXT.
DO YOU THINK CHINA WAS GOING TO DO THIS REGARDLESS?
>> I THINK SOMEWHAT DEGREE CHINA ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
SOMEBODY SAID THAT 25 YEARS AGO, SPEAKER GINGRICH WENT TO TAIWAN IN 1997.
AND BEIJING DID NOT FIRE A BULLET.
AND NOW THEY CONDUCT HUGE MILITARY EXERCISES AROUND THE WATERS OF TAIWAN AND JAPAN'S [INAUDIBLE] I THINK BEIJING ANSWERED THAT.
THIS SEEMS LIKE NOWADAYS THEY ARE BIGGER THEY ARE STRONGER SO THE APPROACH IS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.
>> AND WHAT IS THE IMPACT BEEN ON TAIWAN BUT ALSO ON GLOBAL TRADE CONSIDERING HOW MUCH PASSES THROUGH THE TAIWAN STRAIT THERE?
>> ABOUT 50% OF GLOBAL CARGO SHIPS GO THROUGH TAIWAN OR TAIWAN STRAIT.
AND TAIWAN PLAYS CRITICAL ROLE IN GLOBAL HIGH TECH SUPPLY CHAIN ESPECIALLY SEMICONDUCTORS.
TAIWAN PRODUCED 90% OF THE GLOBAL COMPUTER CHIPS, SEMICONDUCTOR CHIPS.
SO AS WE FACE THE CHALLENGES FROM THIS PANDEMIC, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE STABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE TO DO BUSINESS.
WE THINK THAT THE MILITARY DRILLS AGAINST TAIWAN IS OVERREACTING, UNNECESSARY, PROVOCATIVE.
OF COURSE, IT PRESENTS CHALLENGES FOR BUSINESSES.
IN THIS REGARD, WE HOPE CHINA TO STOP AND ALSO BACK TO THE DIALOGUE CHANNEL TO RESOLVE DIFFERENCES.
>> AND GIVE US A SENSE HOW THE PEOPLE OF TAIWAN FEEL?
ARE THEY OPEN TO SOME PEACEFUL REUNIFICATION AT SOME POINT WITH CHINA?
OR WOULD THEY PREFER THE WORLD TO RECOGNIZE TAIWAN AS A SOVEREIGN NATION?
>> I THINK TAIWAN IS DEMOCRACY.
AND IN OUR VIEW, WE THINK WE SHOULD LET THE PEOPLE IN TAIWAN DECIDE THEIR OWN FUTURE.
AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE BEEN TAIWAN HAS BEEN INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC OF CHINA AND TAIWAN HAS BEEN INDEPENDENT FROM THE PRC.
AND WE DON'T BELONG TO JURISDICTIONS OF THE PRC.
AND THAT IS THE FACT.
NOWADAYS, BOTH SIDES OF THE TAIWAN STRAIT.
SO THE PROBLEM IS HOW DO WE RESOLVE DIFFERENCES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TAIWAN STRAIT?
FROM OUR VIEW WE THINK WE SHOULD LET THE PEOPLE HAVE A SAY ABOUT THEIR THINKING ABOUT THEIR LIFE, ABOUT THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE GOVERNED.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE IN LIFE SHOULD BE GOVERNED.
THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION WE FACE.
WE THINK THE DEMOCRACY IS BETTER FOR OUR PEOPLE AND ACROSS THE TAIWAN STRAIT THEY DON'T THINK SO.
AND THEY THINK DICTATORSHIP WORKS BETTER FOR THEM.
>> AND ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE U.S. AND MOST OF THE WORLD STICKING WITH THE ONE CHINA POLICY BUT HAVING DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH TAIWAN?
OR DO YOU WANT THE U.S. TO DO MORE?
>> I THINK THAT THE U.S. ONE CHINA POLICY IS A DIFFERENT FROM PRC'S ONE CHINA PRINCIPLE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL ELEMENTS IN U.S. ONE CHINA POLICY BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.
IN ADDITION TO THREE COMMUNIQUES BETWEEN U.S. AND CHINA THEY ARE TAIWAN RELATIONS ACT IN 1979 AND ALSO SIX ASSURANCES IN 1982.
AND ALL THOSE ELEMENTS BEING THE EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATIONS ACROSS PARTY LINES FOR DECADES.
SO THE POLICY HAS BEEN THERE.
AND I DON'T THINK THE U.S. HAS CHANGED THEIR POLICY SINCE.
AND IN THIS REGARD, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT DATA UNDER THE TAIWAN RELATIONS ACT.
TAIWAN CAN HAVE A STRONG DETERRENCE.
WE WANT TO AVOID WAR.
THE PURPOSE IS TO AVOID WAR.
IF TAIWAN'S WEAK, SOME WAY, MAYBE MORE RISKY TO HAVE A CONFLICT BETWEEN BOTH SIDES OF TAIWAN STRAIT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE DIPLOMACY.
WE HAVE DIPLOMACY TO BRING PEOPLE TO TALK.
I THINK THAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT.
SO THAT'S WHY FROM TAIPEI'S PERSPECTIVE, WE URGE FOR DIALOGUES WITHOUT A PRECONDITION AND NOWADAYS CHINA CONTINUES TO REFUSE, REJECTING OUR IDEA TO HAVE A SIT DOWN AND TALK.
>> CHINA'S POSITION IS THEY WANT PRECONDITIONS FOR YOU TO TALK.
BRIEFLY WE MENTIONED THIS AS A DE FACTO CONFLICT IN CHICAGO WHAT IS TAIWAN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH CHICAGO AND THE MIDWEST?
>> WE HAVE VERY LONGSTANDING COOPERATION WITH THE MIDWEST, ESPECIALLY IN ACADEMIC COOPERATION WITH THE UNIVERSITIES HERE AND I THINK HERE THE MIDWEST WE HAVE TOP RATING UNIVERSITIES INCLUDING CHICAGO AREA, NORTHWESTERN, U CHICAGO, UIC, UI SYSTEM AND WE HAVE A HUGE DATA POOL IN THE MIDWEST.
I THINK THAT PROVIDES GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAIWAN BUSINESSES COMING HERE TO THE MIDWEST.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING OUR OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO DO.
WHEN ECONOMIC SECURITY MATTERS NATIONAL SECURITY.
WE ENCOURAGE THE COMPANIES TO BE MORE DIVERSIFIED.
BECAUSE OVER THE PAST FEW DECADES, WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS IN CHINA.
AS YOU CAN SEE, FROM THE MILITARY ACCESS NOWADAYS WE THINK THE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMPANIES TO DIVERSIFY THEIR SUPPLY CHAINS.
TO HAVE MORE COOPERATION WITH DEMOCRACIES LIKE THE U.S. AND MIDWEST, PROVIDES GOOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO COME HERE.
>> BUSINESS, OF COURSE, A GOOD FORM OF DIPLOMACY VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES.
OUR THANKS TO DIRECTOR GENERAL JOHNSON CHIANG THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> AND NOW TO AMANDA FOR A LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF PHARMACY DESERTS ACROSS THE CITY.
AMANDA?
>> THANKS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD ABOUT FOOD DESERTS WHERE ACCESS TO FRESH FOOD MIGHT NOT BE EASILY ACCESSIBLE BUT POCKETS OF CHICAGO PARTICULARLY ON THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES ALSO LACK CONVENIENT ACCESS TO A LOCAL PHARMACY.
JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT IT ARE CHEYANNE DANIELS A REPORTER WITH THE HILL AND A CONTRIBUTOR WITH THE "CHICAGO SUN-TIMES".
DANIELS PUBLISHED A REPORT ON PHARMACY DESERTS AND THE RESEARCHER CREDITED WITH COINING THE TERM PHARMACY DESERT, DIMA QATO, DIRECTOR OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SCHOOL PUBLIC HEALTH PREVIOUSLY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS CHICAGO.
THANKS TO YOU.
AND DIMA QATO LET'S BEGIN WITH YOU.
YOU COINED THE TERM PHARMACY DESERT.
WE KNOW THAT MEDICINES, PRESCRIPTIONS CAN BE LIFE-SAVING.
WHY ARE PHARMACY DESERTS SO PROBLEMATIC?
>> PHARMACIES ARE VITAL TO COMMUNITIES.
THEY PROVIDE MEDICINES AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES INCLUDING VACCINATIONS.
AND THEY ARE CRITICAL ROLE IN PROMOTING PUBLIC HEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY IT BECAME CLEAR SINCE THE START OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
>> ANY PARTICULAR WAYS THAT YOU THINK THIS WAS AMPLIFIED DURING COVID?
>> IN THE BEGINNING PHARMACIES WERE KEY IN TESTING COVID TESTING.
AND LATER ON FOR COVID VACCINATIONS.
MORE THAN 75% OF PEOPLE THAT GOT THEIR COVID VACCINE GOT IT AT A RETAIL PHARMACY.
AND IT BECAME PROBLEMATIC WHEN COMMUNITIES HAD A HARD TIME FINDING PHARMACIES LET ALONE PHARMACIES THAT OFFERED THE VACCINE.
AND IN CHICAGO THE COMMUNITIES WERE ON THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES AND FOR ME THAT WAS NOT SURPRISING GIVEN THAT WE KNEW THAT THESE COMMUNITIES ARE PHARMACY DESERTS.
>> AND CHEYANNE DANIELS, YOU AS WELL AS WBEZ'S REPORTERS DID DRILL DOWN MORE INTO WHERE THERE ARE PHARMACY DESERTS WITHIN CHICAGO.
CAN YOU SUMMARIZE THOSE FINDINGS?
>> YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE SAW WAS ESPECIALLY BASED ON PROFESSOR'S RESEARCH MOST OF THE DESERTS ARE ON THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES.
WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE ROSELAND, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE SEEN LOCALLY OWNED PHARMACIES CLOSE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE CIVIL UNREST IN 2020 WE SAW A FEW OF THOSE STORES CLOSE IN PART DUE TO LOOTING THAT THEY EXPERIENCED AND SO IT'S REALLY IN PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE PHARMACIES CLOSED THE SERVICES THE RESIDENTS NEED.
>> THE BIG BOX BRAND NAMES WALGREENS AND CVS BUT A DWINDLING NUMBER OF INDEPENDENT PHARMACIES.
DIMA, WHY IS THAT?
WHAT ROLE IN PARTICULAR DO BOTH INSURANCE COMPANIES AND GOVERNMENT POLICIES PLAY?
>> SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHAINS, YES, WALGREENS IS THE PREDOMINANT CHAIN IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO THAT HAS LONG BEEN RECOGNIZED.
INDEPENDENTS, PLAY A IMPORTANT ROLE IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR INCLUDING IN THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDES AND INCLUDING IN PHARMACY DESERTS.
THE NEAREST PHARMACY IS MORE LIKELY TO BE AN INDEPENDENT THAN A CHAIN.
AND IN EARN ITS OF -- IN TERMS OF GOVERNMENT PLAYERS, PARTICULARLY IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS MEDICAID.
THEY PLAY A HUGE ROLE THEM AND THE PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGERS THAT THEY CONTRACT WITH.
AND I SAY THAT FOR TWO REASONS: ONE, PHARMACIES ARE NOT REIMBURSED ENOUGH ESPECIALLY PHARMACIES WE KNOW SERVE PUBLICLY INSURED POPULATIONS AND RELY ON MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT RATES TO STAY OPEN.
AND TWO, MEDICAID IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR DETERMINING WHERE THEIR BENEFICIARIES CAN GO TO FILL THEIR MEDICATIONS.
AND OFTENTIMES THAT IS A CHAIN.
AND FOR SOME PLANS THAT CHAIN IS NOT WALGREENS.
THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE WBEZ STORY THAT CHEYANNE DANIELS COWROTE.
IT'S CVS AND WE KNOW CVS ISN'T REALLY CONVENIENTLY LOCATED IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT MEANS THERE ARE FEWER PATIENTS ENTERING THE INDEPENDENTS, THE NON-PREFERRED PHARMACIES AND THEREFORE FEWER PRESCRIPTIONS FILLED LESS MONEY FOR THE PHARMACY.
AND THEREFORE MAKING IT REALLY DIFFICULT TO STAY OPEN.
>> HARD FOR THEM TO SURVIVE WITHOUT CUSTOMERS WHO CAN SHOP THERE.
AT THE SAME TIME, CHEYANNE DANIELS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GOVERNMENT POLICY TO CHANGE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM AND ILLINOIS IS GIVING PHARMACISTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE TO GIVE VACCINES AND ALSO A NEW LAW WILL ALLOW PHARMACISTS TO DESCRIBE CONTRACEPTION BIRTH CONTROL WITHOUT A DOCTOR'S PRESCRIPTION.
BUT THEY CAN'T DO THAT IF THERE IS NOT PHARMACY TO GO TO, RIGHT?
>> EXACTLY.
EXACTLY.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE REAL FALLOUTS OF THAT WE SEE IT IMPACTS BLACK AND BROWN WOMEN AND WE KNOW THAT BLACK WOMEN WHEN IT COMES TO MORTALITY RATES AND INFANT MORTALITY RATES THEY HAVE THE WORST HEALTH OUTCOMES IF NOT THE WORST THAN ESPECIALLY THEIR WHITE COUNTERPARTS.
HAVING ACCESS TO THINGS LIKE CONTRACEPTION CAN BE A LIFE-SAVING SERVICE THAT THEY CAN'T ACCESS WITHOUT HAVING THE PHARMACIES IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
>> DIMA QATO, HOW THE CHICAGO STACK UP TO OTHER CITIES WHEN IT COMES TO PHARMACY DESERTS?
>> IT'S THE WORST IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES AND WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO -- THE DISPARITY IS JUST KIND OF SHOCKING WITH 1% OF THE WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE PHARMACY DESERTS COMPARED TO 42% ALMOST A HALF OF BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS AND HISPANIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> BRIEFLY, WE, OF COURSE, SOME PEOPLE GET THEIR MEDICINE ON-LINE.
WHY IS THAT NOT AN OPTION OR DOES THAT CHANGE THINGS AT ALL?
>> VERY FEW PEOPLE GET ALL THEIR MEDICINES ON-LINE WE KNOW THAT.
AND IT'S REALLY NOT THE SOLUTION.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST PRESCRIPTIONS.
SO ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT PHARMACIES ARE PROVIDING OTHER SERVICES, SO IF THE PHARMACY IS THERE NOT ONLY THERE TO GIVE YOU A MEDICATION BUT THERE'S OTHER SERVICES THEY PROVIDE INCLUDING THE COVID VACCINE THAT WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
NATURAL EXPERIMENT ABOUT THEM AS THE PHARMACIES WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ARGUE IT FOR 10 YEARS.
COVID MADE IT EASY BECAUSE IT BECAME APPARENT TO THE PUBLIC IF YOU WANT TO PARTNER AND DELIVER ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY PHARMACY IS THE PLACE TO GO.
>> AND CHEYANNE DANIELS LAST WORD GOES TO YOU WHEN YOU WERE INTERVIEWING PEOPLE FROM YOUR ARTICLE WHAT WERE YOU HEARING FROM FOLKS?
>> THERE'S A LOT OF DESPAIR AND A LOT OF ANGER AND FRUSTRATION AND THE IDEAS THAT ESPECIALLY FROM MANY OF THE WOMEN I SPOKE TO AND LOCAL PHARMACY OWNERS THAT ARE SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE PHARMACIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS JUST NEED THE INVESTMENT FOR IT.
WE NEED THE COMMITMENT FROM CONGLOMERATES TO SAY WE BELIEVE THAT YOU DESERVE TO HAVE THE SERVICES IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BY PUTTING OUR PHARMACY IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CHEYANNE DANIELS AND DIMA QATO.
>> .
>> UP NEXT, MEET THE EVANSTON BASED ARTIST BEHIND NETFLIX'S GRACE AND FRANKIE SERIES.
BUT FIRST, A LOOK AT THE WEATHER... [♪♪♪] IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS SINCE WITH KEY INTRODUCED YOU TO THE ARTIST WITH OF GRACIE AND FRANKIE.
ARTS CORRESPONDENT, ANGEL IDOWU WENT BACK FOR A VISIT.
>> FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, NANCY ROSEN HAS CREATED THE ARTWORK BEHIND NETFLIX'S' LONGEST RUNNING SERIES GRACE AND FRANKIE.
>> WHEN GRACE AND FRANKIE CALLS IT'S ALWAYS A HOLLYWOOD EMERGENCY AND I GO AND THEY CALL.
AND THEN MY LIFE IS LIKE -- MY HUSBAND WATCHES MY HEAD AND IT GOES GLICK, GLICK, GLICK.
AND THAT IS THE THING ABOUT DOING A PAINTING FOR THEM.
IF IT'S FOR AN EPISODE IT STARTS OUT ONE THING AND KEEPS MORPHING UNTIL IT'S DONE.
>> THOSE CLICKS WERE PUT ON HOLD WHEN THE PANDEMIC FORCED PRODUCTION TO SHUTDOWN AFTER CREATING THE FIRST FOUR EPISODES OF THE FINAL SEASON.
ROSEN SAYS THE PAUSE ALLOWED HER TO WORK ON PERSONAL PROJECTS.
SOME SHE WOULD NOT HAVE DONE IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE SERIES.
>> I DID A SERIES OF DOGS.
BECAUSE I DID THE POODLES FOR THEM.
AND THEN SOMEBODY SAID TO ME, WOULD YOU DO A PORTRAIT OF MY DOG.
AND NORMALLY I WOULD BE LIKE NO.
NO.
BUT, PAINTING THE DOG WAS SO MUCH FUN.
>> BUT ONCE PRODUCTION RESUMED IT WAS FULL STEAM AHEAD.
>> SEASON 7 THEY HAD NOT CALLED ME MOST OF THE SEASON.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT WAS LIKE THIS PAINTING IS THIS SERIOUS AS A HEART ATTACK.
AND I WILL MISS THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, I CLEARLY THIS IS IT FOR ME.
I WILL DO THIS MY WHOLE LIFE, RIGHT?
>> WHEN THE SHOW WRAPPED ROSEN RECEIVED PERSONAL ITEMS SHE TO PRODUCTION TO MAKE FRANKIE'S ART STUDIO MORE PERSONABLE.
>> THEY EITHER RENTED STUFF FROM ME OR COMMISSIONED LIKE IF I DID THE PAINTING OF JANE THAT WAS FOR AN EPISODE, SO THEY OWNED THAT PAINTING.
SHE IS ARE PAINTINGS THAT I JUST LOANED THEM FOR BACKGROUND.
>> EXACTLY.
>> THESE ALL WOULD LIKE IF YOU GO AND YOU LOOK AT FRANKIE'S STUDIO, THESE WILL JUST BE IN THE BACKGROUND KIND OF.
THERE IS A LOT OF MY STUFF THAT IS JUST.
MY FAVORITE PART IS THAT HER STUDIO WAS -- THERE'S ALL MY LITTLE STUFF.
>> I REMEMBER YOU SAID THEY WERE LIKE CAN YOU SEND PAINTBRUSHES.
>> MY COT SKY THING.
>> WE LOOKED BACK AT PIECES FROM SEASONS.
>> LILLEY LOVED PLAYING FRIEDA.
SHE ASKED ME TO DO A PAINTING OF FRANKIE AS LILLEY AS FREDDY AS FRANKIE.
SO AFTER THEY FINISHED FILMING, THEY PRESENTED LILLEY WITH THE PAINTING OF FRIEDA AND JANE, THE PAINTING OF HER AS COUNT DRINK-KU-LA.
>> THE EXPOSURE LED TO TO BE COMMISSIONED TO CREATE MORE THAN 800 PIECES.
AND WHILE SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT IS NEXT, SHE LOOKS FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE WORK THAT LED HER TO THIS JOURNEY.
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