
August 23, 2024
Season 32 Episode 34 | 28mVideo has Closed Captions
Guest host Krista Kafer with panelists Patty Calhoun, Eric Sondermann, Chris Rourke, and Jesse Paul.
On Colorado Inside Out this week our Insiders give their thoughts on the end of the DNC, the latest on the Denver sales tax initiative for the ballot, Initiative 91 about the hunting of mountain lions and bobcats, and the special session for legislature to begin next week. Join the conversation!
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Season 32 Episode 34 | 28mVideo has Closed Captions
On Colorado Inside Out this week our Insiders give their thoughts on the end of the DNC, the latest on the Denver sales tax initiative for the ballot, Initiative 91 about the hunting of mountain lions and bobcats, and the special session for legislature to begin next week. Join the conversation!
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO COLORADO INSIDE OUT.
I'M YOUR GUEST HOST KRISTA KAFER, SUNDAY COLUMNIST FOR THE DENVER POST.
TONIGHT WE'RE JOINED BY PATTY CALHOUN, FOUNDER AND EDITOR OF WESTORD.
ERIC SONDERMAN, COLUMNIST FOR COLORADO POLITICS AND THE DENVER AND COLORADO SPRINGS GAZETTES.
CHRIS ROURKE, MEDIA CONSULTANT WITH ROURKE MEDIA.
JESSE PAUL, REPORTER AND EDITOR WITH THE COLORADO SUN.
LAST NIGHT WAS THE FINAL NIGHT OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION IN CHICAGO.
VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS TOOK THE STAGE WITH GREAT FANFIRE.
THE FOUR-DAY LONG CONVENTION WAS FULL OF MUSIC, DANCING, AND SPEECHES.
IT WAS A SOLID REBOOT BUT WILL THE MOMENTUM CONTINUE?
>> WELL I DON'T THINK BOOT IS THE TERM WE SHOULD BE USING.
WE GOT KAMALA MOVING THINGS FORWARD.
IT WAS INTERESTING TALKING ABOUT FREEDOM.
THE F WORD THAT MADE A DIFFERENCE WAS FORWARD.
YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THE SAME OLD CANDIDATES.
THEY WANT NEW.
THEY WANT FRESH.
THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.
THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD SPEECHES.
THERE WERE A LOT OF LONG SPEECHES.
THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD ONES.
KAMALA DID EVERYTHING SHE NEEDED TO DO.
SHE WAS STRONG BUT NOT IRRITATING.
SHE WAS PERSONALABLE BUT STILL POWERABLE.
THE WAY THEY SET IT UP ENDING THE CONVENTION AND PUTTING HER BEST FOOT FORWARD WAS GREAT.
HILLARY CLINTON AND MICHELLE OBAMA.
IT WAS A GOOD UPBEAT CONVENTION.
LET'S REMEMBER, WE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> HE WAS ADORABLE.
ERIC YOU HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS.
WHERE DO THEY GO FROM HERE?
>> JUST WITH A BIT OF MEA CULPA.
I THINK I WAS WRONG.
WHEN BOOD WAS AT THAT STAGE WHERE HE HAD TO GO AND YOUR WORD REBOOT HAS APPLICABILITY TODAY.
I WROTE A COUPLE OF TIMES AND TALKED AT THIS TABLE HOW IT NEEDED TO BE MORE OF AN OPEN PROCESS.
YOU NEEDED TO HAVE A MINI PRIMARY.
I THINK THE PARTY WAS COMING TO COME TOGETHER, WAS WANTING TO UNIFIED.
YOU COULD HAVE PLAYED THOSE CARDS.
THOSE CARDS ENDED UP IN A VERY GOOD PLACE.
KAMALA HARRIS HAS A GOOD INTRO.
ALL THE VIBES AROUND THIS CONVENTION, AROUND HER.
SHE HAS THE ABILITY AND POTENTIAL TO PULL THIS OFF.
THERE IS STILL 10.5 WEEKS TO GO AND LOTS OF PLOT, TWISTS AND TURNS TO COME.
>> YOU WATCHED BOTH OF THOSE CONVENTIONS.
WHAT STRUCK YOU -- WHAT WAS DIFFERENT IN WHAT WAS SIMILAR?
>> I THINK WITH THIS CONVENTION WE SAW THE POWER OF STORYTELLING.
EVERY SPEECH LEADING OFF EVERY NIGHT, THIS STORY OF WHO KAMALA HARRIS IS.
THEY PORTRAYED HER AS THE FIGHTER ALL THE WAY OF BEING A PROSECUTOR.
THAT IS A POWERFUL MESSAGE YOU CAN'T DENY AND IT CONNECTS WITH PEOPLE.
THE THING I AGREE WITH ERIC ON IS JOY IS NOT A POLICY.
WHAT ARE WE VOTING FOR AS FAR AS THE PLAN?
WHAT IS THE PLAN BEFORE THE CONVENTION KAMALA HARRIS RELEASED SOME IDEAS WHAT SHE WOULD DO FOR THE ECONOMY.
FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS TO RECEIVE AS A DOWN PAYMENT.
AND THE SHE SAYS DURING HER SPEECH SHE WANTS A MIDDLE CLASS TAX BREAK.
I'M NO MATH PRO THE NUMBERS DON'T COME OUT FOR ME.
>> I WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT ASPECT.
SOME POLLING CAME OUT BEFORE BIDEN.
IT LOOKED LIKE COLORADO MIGHT BE IN PLAY FOR TRUMP.
IN REALITY YOU HAD A LOT OF LEGISLATIVE CANDIDATES RUNNING IN TIGHT RACES.
GETTING PRETTY NERVOUS ON HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THEM.
I'M CURIOUS THAT KAMALA MOMENTUM IN COLORADO HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT THINGS IN THE EIGHTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AND THE THIRD CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
OPTED NOT TO ATTEND THE CONVENTION THIS WEEK.
I WONDER AFTER THE CONVENTION AND THE SPEECHES THAT WENT ON THE GOOD VIBES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE CONVENTIONS.
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE POLLING LOOKS NOW THE POLITICAL TIDES HAVE CHANGED.
DENVER'S LONG NOVEMBER BALLOT JUST GOT A LITTLE LONGER.
MAYOR MIKE JOHNSTON'S SALES TAX INCREASE WILL BE ON THE BALLOT.
THE MEASURE WOULD INCREASE THE CITY'S SALES TAX BY .05% GENERATING $100 MILLION PER YEAR FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SOME ON THE CITY COUNCIL REALLY PUSHED BACK.
THE CITY IS ALREADY SPENDING MILLIONS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WILL VOTER GO FOR A SALES TAX HIKE?
>> WE ARE ABOUT TO SEE?
THAT CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT TO UNFOLD.
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A CRISIS.
I'VE BEEN PERSUADES IT HAS TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT ROLE.
THE QUESTION FOR ME ARE VOTERS GOING TO CONSIDER IT AS A STAND ALONE PROPOSITION?
ARE VOTERS GOING TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING ON THE BALLOT?
WITH THAT EVERYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE A SALES TAX INCREASE FOR DENVER HEALTH WHICH I THINK LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE AS PRIORITY ONE.
YOU HAVE A HUGE TAX INCREASE TO FUND A BILLION DOLLARS BOND ISSUE FOR DPS.
VOTERS A COUPLE YEARS AGO APPROVED A SIDEWALK TAX.
PAY $150 A YEAR FOR SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT.
ARE VOTERS GOING TO CONSIDER MIKE JOHNSTON'S PROPOSAL IN ISOLATION OR GOING TO PUT IT IN THIS BROADER CONTEXT?
I THINK IT DETERMINES THE FAITH OF HIS INITIATIVE.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I AGREE WITH ERIC AGAIN.
MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF THIS TAX WOULD BRING ABOUT.
AS ERIC IT IS COMPETING WITH DENVER HEALTH.
IT IS COMPETING WITH DPS.
HOMEOWNERS MAY BE PAYING $150 A YEAR FOR SIDEWALKS IN DENVER.
THE AFFORDABLE ISSUE WHICH PATTY HAS ARCTICLATED DENVER HAS TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE.
THE TAX IN DENVER WOULD BE ABOUT 10% PUTTING IT UP WITH CITIES LIKE L.A.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT VOTERS WANT.
WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> WHAT ARE YOU THOUGHTS?
>> I SAW AN INTERVIEW ON CBS COLORADO WITH FORMER MAYOR WHO TALKS ABOUT DENVER HEALTH TAX INITIATIVE AND WHY IT IS IMPORTANT NOT TO HAVE IT ON THE BALLOT.
ANY THREAT TO THEM FINANCIALLY PUTTING THESE TAX INCREASES ON THE BALLOT IS A PROBLEM.
WE HAVE SEEN ACROSS COLORADO VOTERS WILL SAY NO IN THE LIBERAL.
I THINK ANOTHER THING PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT TOO THE SALES TAX INCREASES AGGRESSIVE.
YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE COLORADO AN AFFORDABLE CITY.
YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT CHARGING PEOPLE MORE IN THE SAME BOTH.
THE MESSAGING IS INTERESTING AROUND THIS.
HE HAS THAT ROAD MAP SOMETHING TO POINT TO.
HE HAS SOMETHING HE WANTS TO REPEAT ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
>> I THINK IT IS TOO EARLY FOR HIM TO REPEAT IT, TRY TO REPEAT IT ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
THE CONTEXT IS WHAT ELSE IS ON THE BALLOT.
SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK WHAT IS AFFORDABLE.
THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK CAN THE CITY AFFORD TO PAY TO HOUSE THE HOMELESS?
WHERE HAS THAT MONEY GONE?
COULD IT HAVE GONE TO BETTER PLACES.
THE TRASH FEES, THE PARKING ON THE STREETS, RESIDENTIAL PARKING.
PEOPLE FEEL THEIR NICKEL AND DIMED AND WHEN THIS COMES ALONG WITHOUT TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT AS THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU, I THINK IT WILL BE A LOSER COME NOVEMBER.
>>> UNTIL THE ELECTION, COLORADO INSIDE OUT WILL TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO EACH OF THE INITIATIVES BEFORE THE VOTERS.
INITIATIVE 91 WOULD END HUNTING FOR MOUNTAIN LIONS AND BOBCATS.
SUPPORTERS BELIEVE BIG CATS SHOULD NOT BE HUNTED.
OPPONENTS CALL IT BALLOT BOX BIOLOGY WHICH WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT WILDLIFE AND HUMANS.
CHRIS, YOU HAIL FROM THE WESTERN SLOPE WHERE COMMUNITIES WILL BE MOST IMPACTED.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?
>> WELL, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY ARE CALLING IT BALLOT BOX BIOLOGY.
WE HAVE SEEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED WHEN VOTERS DECIDE WHAT IS PART OF THE STATE.
WHAT IS INTERESTING TO ME I WAS ON THE SHOW FOUR MONTHS AGO.
I TALKED ABOUT CPW ABOUT HAVING A FACT SHEET REGARDING HOW WELL WILDCATS ARE MANAGED IN OUR STATE.
IT HAS A LINK TO THE PAGE THAT TALKED ABOUT HARVEST RATES, HOW WELL CONTROLLED THESE POLLLATIONS ARE.
YOU DON'T WANT POPULATIONS BECOMING OUT OF CONTROL.
IT HAS BEEN REVISED.
IN THE FIRST ONE IT SAYS THEREFORE CPW BELIEVES THAT MANAGING LIONS AND BOBCATS MAINTAINING POPULATIONS THAT WOULD LIKELY OCCUR WITHOUT HUNTING.
THE REVISED ONE SAYS THAT HUNTING IS SIMPLY ONE TOOL.
NOT SURE WHAT LED TO THE LANGUAGE CHANGE.
I NOTICED ON THE WEB SITE UNDER FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS THEY ARE SAYING CPW IS NOT TAKING INITIATIVE ON POSITION 91.
IT IS A SHAME TO HAVING TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
I'M CURIOUS WHAT IS LEADING UP TO THE LANGUAGE CHANGE.
WE WILL SEE WHERE IT GOES.
WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WOLVES.
IT IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL PROBLEM.
>> I LIKE YOUR INVESTIGATING REPORTING.
TIME FOR AN ARTICLE.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
>> I'M LOOKING AT THE STATEWIDE TOO.
THERE IS A FUR BAN.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AN ARTICLE BY MY FRIEND WHO WENT AND TALKED TO COLORADO PUBLIC, COLORADO PARKS AND WILDLIFE.
THE WOLF INTRODUCTION HAS PUT STRESS ON THEM.
IT HAS MADE IT A LOT HARDER TO BE A CPW OFFICER.
IT IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
WHEN CITIZENS ARE PUTTING THESE THINGS ON THE BALLOT.
THEY ARE NOT THOUGHT OUT BY GOVERNMENT AS A WHOLE.
THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES THAT GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAS TO BARE.
IF THIS ONE PASSES IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER BALLOT MEASURE THEY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND ANSWER FOR EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THEY ARE PUTTING BEFORE VOTERS.
>> PATTY, GOT A PREDICTION?
>> IT IS NOT LIKE WE ARE REINTRODUCING MOUNTAIN LIONS.
THEY ARE ALREADY HERE.
THE QUESTION IS SHOULD THEY BE HARVESTED, AKA HUNTED AND THEN KILLED?
I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTUATE.
SOMETHING WE REALLY SCREWED OVER.
I THINK FUZZY LITTLE CATS, BIG CATS HAVE A CHANCE.
>> HUNTERS AREN'T DOING IT THEN AGENTS WILL HAVE TO CONTROL THE POPULATIONS IN A SIMILAR WAY.
ARE WE NOT TAKING THAT COST AND PUTTING IT ON THE TAXPAYERS?
>> THAT IS A COMPLEX QUESTION THAT I'M NOT SURE WILL BE ON LOTS OF VOTERS MINDS.
I WILL RETURN THE COMPLIMENT HERE.
I THOUGHT HER ANALYSIS WAS RIGHT ON.
THIS ONE IS SIMPLE FOR ME EVEN THOUGH I'M CONFLICTED.
BOBCATS AND COUGARS ARE WONDERFUL MAGICIC ANIMALS.
ON THE OTHER HAND I THINK WE LEARN THAT IT IS BAD GOVERNANCE TO DECIDE THESE ISSUES AT THE BALLOT BOX.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, WHY WE HAVE EXPERTS AND OTHERS.
I DON'T WANT TO FURTHER PROMPT THIS IDEA THAT EVERY ISSUE LIKE THIS IS THE BALLOT BOX AND THAT IT WILL COME DOWN.
>> WELL SAID.
>>> NEXT WEEK THE COLORADO GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECONVENES FOR A SPECIAL SESSION TO ADDRESS PROPERTY TAXES AFTER TWO CITIZEN INITIATIVES MADE THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.
PROPOSITIONS 108 AND 50 WOULD REDUCE PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT RATES AND TAX REVENUE GROWTH.
OPPONENTS HOPE TO OFFER A COMPROMISE THAT WILL PARADE PROPONENTS TO PULL THE INITIATIVES.
TO RAISE THE ANTE, OPPONENTS ARE CONSIDERING THEIR OWN REFERENDUM TO BLOCK SUCH INITIATIVES IN THE FUTURE.
YOU HAVE WRITTEN LENGTH ABOUT THIS ISSUE, WHAT DO YOU PREDICT?
>> I THINK THIS SPECIAL SESSION IS NOT GOING TO PLAY OUT THE WAY THEY WOULD LIKE.
PROPERTY TAX BILLS THEY ARE PLANNING TO INTRODUCE.
I THINK THAT CAN THROW THINGS OFF THE RAILS.
TALKING TO LAWMAKERS IN RECENT DAYS NO ONE WANTS TO BE COMING BACK TO THE CAPITAL BECAUSE IT IS HOT OR THEY JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THE DETAIL OR DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
SO I THINK IT COULD BE A ROCKET FEW DAYS AT THE CAPITAL.
I HAVE LABOR DAY PLANNED.
THERE IS A LOT IN THE BALANCE HERE.
IF ONE OF THESE BILL PASSES, DEMOCRATS BRING IT COULD NULLIFY THIS BILL COMPLETELY.
IF THEY END UP ON THE BALLOT FOR SOME REASON THE LEGISLATURE WILL HAVE -- COME NEXT YEAR WHEN THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE THE BUDGETS.
>> PATTY?
>> HOT FOR SURE.
THIS IS DEJA VU.
WE HAVE HAD THE WORKING COMMUNITY COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR PROPERTY TAX IN WAKE OF THE GALLAGHER REPEAL.
WE HAVE 50 AND 108 BEING PUT ON THE BALLOT.
ALL THE MOVING PIECES ARE GOING TO HAVE VERY WELL -- TO MAKE THEM ALL WORK TOGETHER IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.
I SEE WHAT JESSE IS SAYING.
IT IS GOING TO BE TRICKY FOR THEM TO DO IT.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE HOT.
EVEN IF THEY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION I DON'T THINK IT WILL MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO COULD LEAVE THE BALLOT MEASURES ON BOARD.
I'M GLAD I'M LEAVING TOWN.
>> ERIC?
>> I'M GLAD I'M WATCHING THIS 70-80 MILES AWAY.
I THINK IT WILL BE FASCINATING TO WATCH HOW IT PLAYS OUT.
IT IS GOOD TO BE MICHAEL FIELDS.
WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH MICHAEL AND AROUSES EMOTIONS ON BOTH SIDES.
HE IS A GOOD HUMAN BEING.
IT IS SOMETHING WHO HAS FIGURED OUT AS REPUBLICANS HAVE THAT THEIR LEVERAGE IN THE STATE AT THIS MOMENT IS BE BALLOT ISSUES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE NO POWER.
IT IS GOOD TO BE MICHAEL FIELDS NOW.
HE HOLDS A LOT OF THE CARDS WHETHER THESE TWO PROPOSITIONS GO FORWARD OR NOT.
THIS WILL BE AN INCREDIBLE TEST NEXT WEEK FOR GOVERNOR POLICY AND LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP IN TERMS WHERE THEY CAN KEEP THEIR MEMBERS, THEIR NUMBERS IN LINE AND DRIVE THIS DEAL THROUGH OR WHETHER THE ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS FOR BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT SCUTTLE THE WHOLE THING.
I THINK IT IS A 50/50 PROPOSITION.
>> WHAT ARE YOU GIVING IT?
>> I DON'T KNOW I CAN MAKE THAT ESTIMATE.
I DID TALK TO A COUPLE OF LAWMAKERS.
ONE IS A REPUBLICAN AND SHE FELT IT IS TIME DEMOCRATS ARE LETTING REPUBLICANS COME TO THE TABLE.
I TALKED TO ANOTHER REPUBLICAN HE WAS DISCOURAGED ABOUT THE PROCESS.
WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT THE SOLUTION IS GOING TO BE.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE TARGETS FIVE HOUSE SEATS IN THIS UPCOMING ELECTION.
WHERE THERE ISSUE HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT ELECTION IN THOSE FIVE SEATS.
WE WILL SEE.
>> I THINK SOMETHING THAT IS INTERESTING HERE PEOPLE GIVE HIM A LOT OF CREDIT.
I THINK HIS MONEY IS TALKING.
HE IS PART OF ADVANCE COLORADO.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS PAYING FOR THESE OTHER THINGS.
IN ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY TAX CONVERSATION HE WOULD CHANGE COLORADO'S PAROL SYSTEM, CHANGE THE SCHOOL PROPOSITION.
SOMEONE TO WATCH FOR SURE.
>> INDEED.
NOW IT IS TIME FOR DISGRACE OF THE WEEK.
>> IT IS A LONG RUNNING DISGRACE.
THE COLORADO REPUBLICAN PARTY UNDER DAVE WILLIAMS.
THERE IS GOING TO BE A MEETING TOMORROW.
WE MAY OR MAY NOT DISCOVER THAT DAVE WILLIAMS IS NO LONGER HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
WE KNOW MIKE LINDALE AT THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION.
THERE IS STILL ELECTION DENIERS RUNNING RAMPED IN THIS STATE.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO BUY A PILLOW?
>> I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN.
>> ERIC?
>> I WANT TO GO TO THE NETWORKS AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION OR THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION.
IT IS SO PREDICTABLE.
YOU HAVE CHEERLEADING ON ONE SIDE.
IT ONLY DEPENDS WHO THE PLAYERS ARE.
THERE IS NO NUANCE TO IT.
IT IS BLATANT IN YOUR FACE AND TOO MUCH.
>> INDEED.
>> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT INITIATIVE 91.
WHEN I WENT TO THIS PDF I MENTIONED THERE IS A LINK.
WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THESE POPULATIONS ARE MODERATED.
IS IT A SHAME OF THE WEEK?
MAYBE IT IS TECHNICAL GLITCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH CPW PUTTING OUT INFORMATION.
I TRUST VOTERS TO BECOME EDUCATED AND VOTE THE RIGHT WAY.
WHATEVER THEY BELIEVE IS THE BEST WITH THAT THEY HAVE LEARNED THEY WILL VOTE THE RIGHT WAY.
>> JESSE?
>> THE SPECIAL SESSION FOR ME IS TOTALLY UNDERSTAND NECESSARY.
LAWMAKERS WHEN THEY COME BACK IN JANUARY COULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THIS.
WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS.
IT IS GOING TO COST TAXPAYERS.
EVERYONE COULD HAVE COME TO THE TABLE EARLIER TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
>> I HAVE A DISGRACE OF THE WEEK.
SHAME ON KRISTA KAFER.
I SATE SOMETHING INCORRECT ABOUT THE ALGERIAN BOXER.
I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO HER.
I REACTED TO NEWS THAT CAME OUT.
I WAS WRONG.
PATTY?
SOMETHING NICE.
>> I GOT IT.
WE TALK ABOUT GOING FORWARD.
LET'S GO TWO YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
IN 2026 THE COUNTRY TURNS 250 YEARS OLD.
COLORADO TURNS 150 YEARS OLD.
THEY ARE COMING UP WITH PLANS WITH A BIG CELEBRATION.
THE ONLY STATE THAT CELEBRATING IT IS 150th IN 2026.
GO OUT AND GET INVOLVED.
DENVER UNFORTUNATELY DOESN'T HAVE ONE YET.
REALLY GET ORGANIZED WHAT COULD BE A GREAT MOVE FORWARD IN 2026.
GOD WILLING WE GET THERE.
>> I THINK WE WILL.
ERIC?
>> HORRAY FOR YOU KRISTA.
I WASN'T WITH YOU ON THE PROGRAM.
I'M ALL FOR SETTING THE RECORD STATE AND CORRECTING ERRORS AND SPEAKS WELL FOR YOU THAT YOU JUST DID SO.
MY SAY SOMETHING NICE IS TWO SPEAKERS AT THE CONVENTION LAST NIGHT IT IS EASY AT A DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION FOR DEMOCRATS TO GET UP.
IT IS A LOT HARDER FOR A REPUBLICAN TO GO TO A DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION AND DO SOMETHING THAT TRULY TAKES COURAGE.
AND THE TWO SPEAKERS WERE FORMER CONGRESSMEN ADAM.
BOTH OF THEM WERE ARTICULATE.
BOTH OF THEM THE HISTORY BOOKS WILL TREAT THEM KINDLY.
THEIR OWN PARTY WOULDN'T TREAT THEM KINDLY FOR A WHILE.
THE HISTORY BOOKS WILL TREAT THEM VERY WELL.
ADAM AND JEFF DUNCAN.
>> I HAVE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ANIMAL SCIENCE.
MINE IS ABOUT THE BERLIN ZOO.
THERE IS A PANDA FROM CHINA.
SHE FOR THE SECOND TIME HAD TWIN PANDAS.
THIS IS AN AMAZING THING.
PANDAS ARE REPRODUCTIVELY CHALLENGED.
IT HAS BEEN A PROCESS -- A HEARTBREAKING BIRTH THAT HAVE NOT WORKED OUT AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SHE HAD TWO TWINS PREVIOUSLY IN 2019.
THEY WENT BACK TO CHINA.
SHE HAS HAD TWO MORE.
THEY HAVE NOT DETERMINED THE SEX OF THE TWINS.
THEY ARE DOING WELL.
THEY ARE SO CUTE.
>> JESSE?
>> IF INITIATIVE 91 DOES PASS I HOPE SOMEONE BRINGS THE LEGISLATION TO RELEASE COUGARS IN DENVER.
MY POSITIVE THING OF THE WEEK IS A PERSONAL ONE.
I GET TO SEE MY FAMILY NEXT WEEKEND FOR LABOR DAY.
I HOPE EVERYONE HERE GETS TO DO THAT.
>> WE HOPE YOU GET OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE.
SO YOU CAN GET HOME.
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