>>> DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT BY THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

BEFORE THE HOUR IS OVER, AROUND THE CORNER, WE WILL TELL YOU HOW TO US JUNE 15 FOR THE DONNYBASH, A BIG FUNDRAISER AND A CHANCE TO GET TOGETHER.

>> LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS AROUND THE BIG BROWN TABLE.

STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE.

JASON ROSENBAUM SITTING IN FOR BILL MCCLELLAN.

HE IS IN PUERTO RICO WATCHING HIS BASKETBALL TEAM.

AND THE -- RIVER FRONT TIMES, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, HE FOUNDED THAT YEARS AGO.

AND ALVIN REID JOINING US FROM THE SAINT LOUIS AMERICAN.

>> JASON, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE SURPRISED WHEN JOHN WOOD, THE US INDEPENDENT UP AGAINST TRUDIE BUSH, ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS WITHDRAWING.

HE WAS IN IT TO BEAT ERIC, AND HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.

HE IS NOT ON THE CAMPAIGN.

HE WAS WITH THE SUPER-PACK AND HE WANTED AN INDEPENDENT TO RUN AGAINST THE REPUBLICANS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL.

NONE THE LESS, WHAT IS THE FALL-OUT HERE?

>> I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED FOR ONE REASON ONLY; WHEN WE TALKED WITH JOHN WOOD THE DAY AFTER THE PRIMARY, WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED HIM ABOUT THE CAN CANDIDATE WAS BECAUSE OF -- BECAUSE THE EXTREMIST AND HE WAS BEATABLE.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY OF SUPPORTING THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES ON A STATEWIDE LEVEL.

THE BEST EXAMPLE OF A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE THAT HAS DONE ANYTHING WAS JONATHAN D DY DYNE, AND THAT WAS WHEN CLAY WAS IN IT AND THEN SHE STILL WOULDN'T HAVE WON.

>> TODD BEAT TODD.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> IF THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH MOMENTUM, I DON'T THINK JOHN WAS A FACTOR.

>> I AGREE.

AGAINST ERIC, HE WOULD'VE.

AND MY INITIAL REACTION BECAUSE AND -- ENOUGH.

LOOKING BACK, IF HE WON, HE WOULD HAVE LIKELY MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR TRUDIE BUSH TO WIN.

SHE HAS A SLIM CHANCE BECAUSE THE STATE IS SO RED ON STATE-WIDE ELECTIONS.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.

I'M NOT SURPRISED HE DROPPED OUT.

THE ONLY QUESTION IS THEY PREPAID ADVERTISING FOR AUGUST.

AND IT MAY BE THAT IT WAS KIND OF TACKY TO SAY, OH, NEVERMIND, I WAS JUST HERE TO RUN AGAINST ERIC.

>> I THINK SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED.

I THINK WOOD GOT PHONE CALLS FROM WASHINGTON, REPUBLICAN LEADERS, WHO DO NOT THE CHANGES LAESS THAN LANDSCAPE BECAUSE OF ROE V. WADE, HEY, THE MITCH MCCONNELL TYPES, YOU STAY IN THIS AND YOU WILL MUDDY THE WATERS FOR REPUBLICANS AND I THOUGHT HE SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE RULE OF LAW AND USED IT AS A PLATFORM.

>> THAT IS WHY I WAS SURPRISED.

I RESPECT HIS HONESTY.

I WAS HERE FOR ERIC ONLY.

WE KIND OF KNEW THAT ANY WAY.

I WOULD HAVE PLAYED IT OUT AT THE SAME TIME AND TRIED TO GET AS MANY VOTES AS POSSIBLE SO I CAN DISPLAY TO THE STATE OF MISSOURI THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HALF SANE TO GET 10 PERCENT OF THE VOTE AND THAT PUTS EVERYBODY ON WARNING THAT EXTREMISM ON EITHER PARTY IS NOT ACCEPTED.

>> I THINK OBVIOUSLY AS PART OF SENATOR DAN'S ONGOING TOUR WHEN IT COMES TO JOSH HOLLY.

IT WAS IN PERSONA, SENATOR DANFORTH WANTED TO RUN MORE THAN JOHN.

I NEVER HAD THE SENSE THAT HIS HEART WAS IT IN THAT THE CANDIDACY WAS IN IT, AND HE FELT STRONGLY ABOUT JOHN -- >> HE WAS IN ALL OF THE COMMERCIALS.

>> THERE WAS NOTHING FROM JOHN WOOD.

>> AGREED.

I THINK JACK IS RESIDING KNOW IRRELEVANT ISLAND.

TO GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR HONESTY.

IT WAS ONLY AFTER HE WAS DISHONEST.

HE CLAIMED -- HE DID SAY PUBICAL PUBICALLY, HE WAS IN IT NO MATTER WHO WOULD RUN -- >> I THINK -- >> I DON'T AGREE WITH THE FORMER SENATOR ON ALL OF THE ISSUES.

HE STUCK HIS NECK OUT THERE.

>> HE DID.

>> WHEN YOU SUPPORT AN INDEPENDENT, YOU GET CRITICISM FROM BOTH SIDES.

>> I GIVE YOU THAT.

>> YOU MENTION AS THE MYOU -- YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ARIZONA ELECTORAL VOTES.

IT WASN'T JUST HIM, IT WAS THE FACT THAT HE FUND RAISED FOR ED MARTIN AND HE SUPPORTED CLARENCE THOMAS.

>> DON'T RUN IN IT.

>> I WAS A 4-YEAR-OLD.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> WASN'T HE ANTI ABORTION RIGHTS WHEN HE WAS A LAWMAKER?

ISN'T HE HAPPY ABOUT THIS ROE V. WADE?

>> ERIC -- HE IS AN INSUERREC INSERRECINSERR -- SAYING THAT WHAT'S HER NAME?

THE CONGRESSWOMAN WAS FLORIDA?

>> MARJORIE, THAT THEY ARE THE SAME.

>> NO.

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC.

WHAT WE CAN SAY, WENDY WIESE, ABOUT KATHERICATHOLIC PINNER WHO IS -- KATHERINE PENNER.

SHE IS STANDARD FOR THE GOP.

IT WAS REPORTED THIS WEEK THAT SHE HAD FILED A LAWSUIT, APPARENTLY IN HER OWN HANDWRITING AND CHALLENGING THE EMPLOYER, BECAUSE SHE WANTED THEM VACCINATED AND WEARING A MASK AND SHE SAID THAT WEARING A MASK IS ASSOCIATED WITH SATANIC RITUALS.

SOMEONE HUNG UP ON THEM.

IT WAS A RADIO CLASSIC.

>> IT WAS A CLASSIC.

SHE DIDN'T HANG UP ON HIM.

HE WAS TRYING TO HOLD HER FEET TO THE FIRE ABOUT A MASKS.

SHE WOULDN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LAWSUIT AND MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE WOULDN'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD.

HE WENT DOWN THAT ROAD, IF YOU ARE ELECTED, HE SAID, AND SOMEHOW A MASK MANDATE IS IN ORDER, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

AND THEN SHE WAS CONTINUING TO SORT OF SAY, I AM PROHIBITED FROM ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.

SHE WAS CLEARLY FRUSTRATED.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ELECTION.

SHE DROPPED OUT OF THE SKY SO PEOPLE ARE VERY CURIOUS ABOUT HER.

AND SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AT LEAST SHE WASN'T WITH MCGRAW.

SHE WAS PILOT, THOUGH.

>> AND STILL RAISED THE QUESTION; HOW DID SHE GET TO WHERE SHE IS NOW?

>> I THINK SHE WAS PUT UP TO IT.

I KNOW I'M A CONSPINISPIRE E THEY ARE -- THEORIST.

>> WHEN YOU GET THAT LETTER.

>> SHE HAS NO CHANCE TO MEET SAM.

>> OH, NO CHANCE.

>> ST. LOUIS COUNTY IS TRENDING MORE DEMOCRATIC, EVEN OVER THE LAST 8 YEARS.

TO BEAT SAM PAGE, YOU NEED SOMEONE WHO HAS A GOOD AMOUNTS OF MONEY.

AND I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A SPECTRUM OF COVID-19 AND YOU CAN BE AGAINST MASK MANDATE AND PEOPLE WILL BE WITH THEM.

AND SHE IS SAYING THAT THE VACCINATION HAS CHIPS IN THEM AND THE MASK MANDATE IS APART OF SATANIC RITUALS.

>> WHY ARE WE BEING SO HAST Y TO DISMISS SATANIC RITUALS AND THE CHIP?

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU ARE DISMISSING THIS?

>> RICK STREAM, WHERE IS LAWRENCE, AND HC -- AND BECAUSE THEY HAD A COUNTY -- >> NO, NO -- >> THEY HAD A QUALIFIED -- >> [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].

>> SO, NOW AS A REPUBLICAN PARTY, HEY, VOTERS, LET'S BE HONEST; DID YOU NOT VOTE FOR THE YOUNG MAN BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.

WE GOT THIS.

PLEASE, LET'S ANSWER THAT QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

>> CHARLIE, BE SERIOUS ABOUT IT, HE WAS QUALIFIED AND MUCH BETTER THAN SAM.

AND HE WAS BLACK AND HE HAD THE NAME.

HE COULD HAVE SURVIVED ONE OF THOSE TWO.

BUT NOT BOTH.

THERE IS A GOOD PIECE, BY THE WAY.

>> YOU CAN HAVE A GOOD LAUGH AT MY EXPENSE IN A SECOND.

IF YOU LOOKED AT A PHOTOGRAPH FOR ILLUSTRATION AT SATANIC RITUALS -- WAIT, WAIT, >> I HEAR YOU.

>> IF THIS WAS AN ACADEMIC PAPER, THAT'S ONE THING -- >> I WORE A MASK TO MARDI GRAS TOO.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> IF I WAS SAM PAIGE, I WOULD USE KATHERINE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AGAINST -- LOOK BAD, WHO IS RUNNING IN THE DISTRICT.

WHEN THEN HE CAN WIN AND HAVE THE COUNCIL THAT IS 4-3 IN HIS FAVOR.

THAT -- >> THERES A GOOD CHANCE OF THAT HAPPENING ALREADY.

IS THAT NOT TRUE?

>> WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF PIVOT.

WE HAVE DONNYBASH, JUNE 15.

AND HERE'S THE DETAILS.

>> >> IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO DONNYBROOK, BOY, DO WE HAVE A GREAT DATE FOR YOU, IT IS COMING UP JUNE 15, 2023.

IT IS IN THE SHELDON CONCERT ALL HALL, PARKING IS A BREEZE, AND IT OPENS UP AT 5:30.

AND ENJOY AFTER THE TAPING WHERE THE GUYS WHERE STICK AROUND AND THEY CLOSE DOWN THE JOINT.

IT IS A GREAT, GREAT TIME.

PLUS, THE ACTUAL SET THAT WE ALL ENJOY LOOKING AT FOR DONNYBROOK, IT IS TRANSFORMED AND THEY SET IT UP ON STAGE.

THE DATE, THURSDAY, JUNE 15, 2023.

>> TWO WAYS TO BE IN THE HONEST.

JOIN US FOR 75 DOLLARS.

THAT'S ONE TICKET OR THE CHOICE OF THE PBS MUG.

WHEN YOU BECOME A SUSTAINING MEMBER FOR 12 DOLLARS A MONTH, YOU GET NOT ONE, BUT TWO TICKETS TO DONNYBASH AND A 9 PBS MUG.

IT IS A GREAT WAY TO SUPPORT DONNYBROOK AND PROGRAMS THAT HAVE LASTED LIKE DONNYBROOK FOR 35 YEARS.

IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT 1987 THEY STARTED THIS PROGRAM.

YOU CAN BE APART OF IT IN JUNE.

NORTH KOR >> .

>> THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT.

IT IS A FUNDRAISER.

WE TALK ABOUT THE SHOW, AND ENJOY COCKTAILS AND FOLLOWED BY THE SHOW AND FOLLOWED BY MORE COCKTAILS.

IT IS LIKE THAT.

>> LAST WEEK, I GOT ASKED, SO, DONNYBASH, I HAVE WATCHED IT.

I BET IT IS COOL BECAUSE YOU SHOOT THE SHOW AND THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE IF THEY SEE THEMSELVES.

YEAH, THEY CAN DO IT IF THEY DVR IT.

IT IS A LIVE SHOW.

IT IS LIVE TV.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

>> WE SHOOT THE SHOW.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> IT SCARED ME.

>> IT SCARED ME TOO.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> I DIDN'T REALIZED I SAID THAT.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> IT HAS BEEN A PARTY AND A CELEBRATION OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN DISAGREE AT LEAST AROUND THIS TABLE AND THE VIEWING AUDIENCE AND YOU DISAGREE WITHOUT BEING DISAGREEABLE.

I'M SURE I WILL HEAR ABOUT SATANIC MASKS AT BADONNYBASH.

IT IS ALL IN GOOD FUN.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY UNIQUELY SAINT LOUIS.

IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE ST. LOUIS AREA, I WOULD DEFINITELY GET TICKETS.

>> IT IS UNIQUELY ST. LOUIS.

WHAT IS NOT NEW TO ST. LOUIS, IT IS PBS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MEASURE IT.

IT IS THE BEST PBS STATION IN THE COUNTRY.

>> IT IS PROVEN.

>> I THINK EVERYONE ELSE THINKS SO.

IT IS SECOND TO NONE WHEN IT COMES TO BEING A PBS STATION.

IT IS THE BEST.

YOU ARE NOT JUST SUPPORTING US AT DONNYBROOK AND A GREAT CREW.

>> THE GREAT GUESTS.

>> SERIOUSLY, YOU ARE SUPPORTING ALL OF THE PROGRAMS.

PBS AT A TIME THAT IT IS NEVER MORE IMPORTANT IN YOUR DEMOCRACY.

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.

>> YEAH.

FOR SURE.

SATURDAY NIGHT WATCH -- FOR GEORGE -- >> I WATCHED THAT TOO.

>> IS THAT NOT GOOD OR WHAT?

>> I WAS LOOKS AT WHAT YEAR?

I WAS ONLY LIKE 34 -- [LAUGHTER.]

I HAD ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS.

>> CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN, JOIN US JUNE 15.

MARK THE DATE.

AND DON'T FORGET TO INVITE THE ENTIRE FAMILY.

WE HAVE A GREAT TIME.

JUNE 15 WILL BE HERE AROUND THE CORNER.

AND LET'S THERE IS SOMEONE'S PARTY LIKE SEPTEMBER.

ALVIN WILL BE THERE!

.

ORDER HIM SOME TICKETS!

>> WE'LL STICK WITH YOU.

>>> IT WAS A SURPRISING ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE COMPTROLLER WHO CAME OUT WITH A CRIME PASSAGE AND DARLEEN GREEN SAYS THE TOP PRIORITY IS TO RETAIN POLICE OFFICERS IN ST. LOUIS.

LET'S UP THEIR PAY, OFFER THEM SOME TAX BREAKS, HOUSING HELP.

THE MAYOR SAYS IT IS INTERESTING.

DIDN'T MAKE COMMITMENTS YET.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> RIGHT NOW AT CITY HALL ESPECIALLY WITH THE ABSENCE OF LOUIS REED TO PLEAD GUILTY FOR CORRUPTION CHARGES.

AS WE ARE SHOOTING THE SHOW ON THURSDAY.

I DON'T THINK YOU WILL NOT READ THAT IN THE NEWSPAPER THE NEXT DAY.

SHE KNEW IT WAS THERE AND THE IDEAS.

NOT TO SAY THEY ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER ON IT, BUT THERE A A L ALEXANDDERMAN PRESIDENT, AND I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO WRECK ANYTHING.

THIS IS A WAY TO MAKE THE PROPOSALS, COULD BE TWEAKED BY THE MAYOR A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK SHE'S ON BOARD.

THEY ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER.

>> THIS IS A PART OF A GREATER PROBLEM.

THE EXAMPLE I BRING UP ALL OF THE TIME, THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS CAN'T RETAIN PUBLIC EDUCATION BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT APART OF THE SYSTEM.

AND THE PERSONNEL CAN'T MAKE AS MUCH IN A SPECIAL SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT HAS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT ITS DISPOSAL.

>> YOU SEE THAT THE COUNTY IS RAISING ITS PAY AND WORKING FOR THE ST. LOUIS POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN BE A BETTER JOB THAN WORKING IN THE CITY ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE PATROLLING SOMEPLACE WHERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CRIME.

I THINK THIS IS A WAY TO MAYBE TRY TO STOP THE BLEEDING, SO TO SPEAK.

MAYBE IT SHOULD PROMPT -- I KNOW THIS IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN -- BETTER TOGETHER, CRASH AND BURN -- BETTER A SAINT LOUIS POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD FIX THIS LIKE -- JOINING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BY ADOPTING THE PROPERTY TAX TO FIX THAT PROBLEM.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> PERCEPTION IS REALITY.

AND YOU HAVE HOMICIDE RATES THAT IS SURGING.

YOU HAVE THIS ONGOING SITUATION ON SOUTH GRAND.

YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PANHANDLING SITUATION IS OUT OF CONTROL.

THEY ARE BECOMING FOR AGGRESSIVE.

I APPLAUD THE COMPTROLLER AND HOPE THAT THE MAYOR WILL, IN FACT, TAKE THIS VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.

YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> SOMETHING I WANT TO SAY AND MAKING IT CLEAR IN THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS, THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOWN A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS.

>> 150.

>> WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE DISCUSSION OF MORE POLICE AND ALL THAT, THAT TO ME STARTS WHEN THE 151 POLICE OFFICER IS HIRED.

>> -- IS HIRED.

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WE SHOULDN'T ADD ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER.

LET'S GET UP TO THE NUMBER IT AND SUPPOSE TO BE.

NOW, LET'S WORK ON THAT.

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO WORK.

>> ST. LOUIS STARTED AT 50, AND CLAYTON 66, THE STARTING SALARY IS 68 AND THEN UP TO 80.

THEY DON'T FACE THE ISSUES THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS DO IN THE CITY.

AND OTHER PAY, THE OVERSIGHT BILL SAYS KIM GARDNER USING THE USE OF FORCE GUIDELINES.

THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH THE OVERSIGHT BILL.

>> DON'T THEY HAVE A DE FACTO BOARD?

THEY ARE RUN BY CIVILIANS?

>> IS THAT KIM GARDNER?

>> IT IS NOT KIM.

>> IN THE COUNTY.

>> IN THE COUNTY?

>> IN THE CITY?

>> THEY ARE TELLS SAINT LOUIS POLICE OFFICERS YOU CAN TRANSFER TO THE COUNTY AND YOU DON'T LOOSE ANYTHING.

YOU CAN HAVE THE PENSION AND WORK AT THE SAME PAY RATE.

THERE'S NO WIN.

WHAT DARLEEN GREEN IS PROPOSING, IT WON'T WORK.

>> FIRST OF ALL, IT CAN.

I HAVE BEEN SAYING, IMPROVE THEIR CONDITIONS AND PAY THEM BETTER AND EXPECT MORE.

I THOUGHT JASON'S EXAMPLE IS PERFECT.

THEY HAVE COOPERATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY, THE MAJOR CASE SQUAD AND THE SYSTEMS SHARING INFORMATION.

>> IT IS IRRELEVANT.

>> NO, NO -- IT IS NOT IRRELEVANT.

THERE'S A TEMPLATE FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY TO WORK TOGETHER.

THEY DO IT ON SOME OF THE -- A NUMBER OF THINGS, ACTUALLY.

SO, THEY WORK TOGETHER NOW.

AS FAR AS THE PAY, PAY IS ONE ELEMENT.

WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER?

JUST TO CONTINUE TO WHINE?

I WOULD DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT.

>> IT IS NOT SOLVABLE.

>> CHARLIE -- >> -- >> LET'S GET SOMETHING CLEAR.

I GET INTO A LOT OF TROUBLE FOR THIS.

PEOPLE SAY I DIDN'T LIVE IN THE CITY.

I LIVED THERE UNTIL '97.

THE CRIME WAS THE SAME.

>> YOU DIDN'T HAVE DRAG RACING.

>> WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS.

>> KIDS BREAKING INTO THE CARS.

>> THIS IS -- >> RIGHT.

RIGHT.

>> YOU ARE ADDING FUEL TO FIRE.

>> NO -- >> I'M LIVE NOTHING THE REAL WORLD.

YOU ARE -- >> CHARLIE, REAL QUICK.

THIS IS HOW THE HUMAN BEING WORKS.

IF YOU RAISED THE PAY OF CITY POLICE OFFICERS, YOU WOULD RETAIN MORE -- >> RIGHT AND ALONG WITH DOWN PAYMENT HELP.

>> -- RIGHT.

AND OTHERS WOULD JOIN THE FORCE.

>> WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER, CHARLIE?

>> I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

>> THEN STEP ASIDE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO.

>> NO.

IN ADDITION TO THE PAY, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THEY ARE GOING TO ADD TO PEOPLE 529 ACCOUNTS OR SEND PEOPLE TO SPECIAL SEMINARS.

THEY HAVE SPECIAL FOUNDATIONS FOR THEIR POLICE OFFICERS.

THE JOBS IN ST. LOUIS AND ST. CHARLES COUNTY IS SO MUCH BETTER.

THAT'S WHY THEY ARE 150 SHORT.

>> RAISING PAY WOULD HELP SOLVE PART OF THE PROBLEMS.

>> YOU ARE OVER-STATING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY.

THERE ARE PARTS OF THE COUNTY, OBVIOUSLY, WHERE YOU ARE PATROLLING, AND PARTS OF THE COUNTY WHERE YOU ARE EXPOSED TO THE DANGER THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE DISPOSUPPOS EXPOSED TO.

THERE'S NO REASON ON EARTH TO OPPOSE TO PAYING THEM MORE.

>> OH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PAYING THEM MORE.

>> WHY NOT, THEY ARE COPS?

>> THE TAX BREAK AND THE DOWN PAYMENT HELP.

>> OH, THAT'S BIG.

>> HEY, I WANT TO BUY A HOUSE AND I CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.

>> TAXES -- THE GOVERNOR OF MISSOURI IS HAVING A SPECIAL SESSION IN SEPTEMBER TO REDUCE THE INCOME TAX 5.3 TO 4.7 PERCENT OR SO.

YOU CAN'T FIND POLICE OFFICERS, BUS DRIVERS.

I'M IN FAVOR.

REWARD THE PEOPLE, WHO IS GETTING UP -- NOT ME -- TO GO TO WORK AND GIVE THAT PERSON A TAX BREAK.

>> YOU ARE ONE OF 50 STATES AND 40-SOMETHING IN DELIVERING EVERY SERVICE FROM EDUCATION TO PAYING EMPLOYEES, CORRECTION TO STATE HIGHWAY PATROL SALARIES, YOU NAME IT, SOCIAL SERVICES.

THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IS SYMBOLIC.

IT IS NOT GOING TO MOVE ANY NEEDLES.

IT IS NOT LIKE WE ARE RETURNING TO THE MONEY TO THE STATE.

WHAT IT IS 5 MILLION?

HOW MANY 20 BILLION DOLLARS?

IT IS NOT GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ECONOMICALLY.

IT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE -- >> IT IS RED MEAT.

>> IT IS RED MEAT.

>> IT IS GREEN DOLLARS.

>> NO -- >> CHARLIE -- >> WHOSE RENT HAS GONE UP, WHOSE GROCERIES HAVE GONE UP.

>> IT IS NOT GOING TO EFFECT THEM.

WHAT IS GOING TO EFFECT THEM IS HAVING BETTER TEACHERS' SALARIES.

>> THEY GAVE THEM A RAISE!

>> I CAN'T BE MAD THAT THEY RAISED THE TEACHER SALARY.

700 MILLION DOLLARS.

NOW, THERE IS GUY THAT IS LUCKY TO HAVE 700 DOLLARS.

MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS THAT AIN'T NO MONEY.

BUT WHEN I GET MY CHECK, OH, HEY.

THIS IS 10 TANKS OF GAS OR WHATEVER.

>> I DID THE MATH.

OUR FAMILY MAKES A LITTLE BIT OVER ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND WE WOULD GET 750 DOLLARS.

I DON'T WANT TO SEEM OUT OF TOUCH.

WHEN YOU ARE PAYING MORE THAN THAT IN ONE MONTH OF DAYCARE.

IT IS SOMETHING.

>> AS FAR AS THE -- >> WHERE IS THE SKEPTICISM WHEN THE MAYOR WAS WRITING 500 DOLLAR CHECKS LAST YEAR?

>> YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT HERE, CHARLIE.

>> THE CONFLICT THAT PROPOSAL WOULD LOWER IT TO 4.8 PERCENT.

THEY PASSED A BILL THAT AND IT WAS GRADUAL AND THIS WOULD ACCELERATE IT.

AND THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING LIKE WE SAID, SOMETHING GETS 500 DOLLARS OR A WOMAN GETS ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS ONE TIME.

IF YOU CUT IT DOWN TO 4.8 PERCENT, YOU CAN'T RAISE IT BACK.

YOU CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE HANCOCK MOVEMENT.

>> THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS.

>> ARE YOU REPORTING IT A BILLION DOLLARS?

>> IT IS MORE THAN THAT.

>> IT IS SHORT-RUN GRATIFICATION.

>> LET ME -- >> LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.

>> LET ME RESPOND TO SOMETHING.

I'M NOT PROPOSED TO THE IDEA.

IF THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THE STATE INCOME TAX.

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A PLAN.

THERE ARE STATES THAT BENEFIT FROM NOT HAVING INCOME TAX.

ELIMINATING IT WITH NOTHING IN ITS PLACE, THIS WHERE THE DIFFERENCES WHEN YOU ARE 48TH AND 49TH, ETC., IN COMPETING WITH OTHER STATES.

YOU CAN'T TAXES WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING ELSE IN ITS PLACE.

>> THE DOT IS SHORT, THEY CAN'T SPEND THE MONEY AND THEY CAN'T HIRE.

>> GUESS WHY?

THEY ARE NOT PAYING PEOPLE LIKE OTHER STATES.

>> PICK UP THE TRASH.

>> AND GREEN SAYS IT WAS GOING TO TRASH WORKERS TOO.

>> AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR STILL WHO TOOK A LOOK AT THIS CRISIS WHERE KIA'S AND CARS ARE BEING STOLEN AT A RECORD RATE.

BUT THEY ARE GOING TO SUE THE MANUFACTURING.

ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THE MANUFACTURER IS TO BLAME AND NOT THE GUY WHO STOLE IT?

>> THIS IS THE INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST METROPOLITAN AREA.

THERE HAVE BEEN CARS THAT HAVE BEEN TAGGED BY THOSE WHO STEAL CARS, THIS IS AN EASY CAR TO STEAL.

IT IS EASY TO STEAL.

THIS LAWSUIT HAVE BEEN FILED BEFORE.

I CAN'T BE MAD AT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERIM PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK WE ARE ALONE NOW EITHER.

>> YOU HAVE -- BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ERIC, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

IT IS NOT THE KIND HE DOES HE DOESN'T HAVE POLITICAL UPSIDE.

HE DOESN'T -- YOU CAN MAKE A CONSUMER CASE.

HE WOULD RATHER SEE CRIME HIGH THAN DO THIS.

THE POINT IS, THIS DOESN'T HELP HIM POLITICALLY.

>> DAN IS RIGHT.

>> HOW MANY KIAS AND -- ARE STOLEN IN SEOUL?

>> THAT'S SO LAST CENTURY.

>> I'M NOT LIKE, HEY, YOU SHOULDN'T STEAL THINGS.

>> WOULD THIS LAWSUIT BE SUCCESSFUL?

ARE THERE EXAMPLES WHERE IT IS SUCCESSFUL?

>> I COULDN'T FIND ONE.

>> IF YOU'RE A CAR MANUFACTURER, YOU ARE BLAMING US?

>> IF THE JUROR IS IN ST. CLAIR OR MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS.

IT WOULD.

>> WE BLAME THE GUN MANUFACTURERS.

>> TAKE THAT STIMULUS MONEY AND SUE.

>> AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN ASK, YOU COULD HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

>> I AM NOT -- >> IF I LEFT THE DOOR UNLOCKED AND SOMEONE ROBS MY HOUSE.

I'M RESPONSIBLE?

>> THE POLICE -- I GOT ROBBED.

THEY DIDN'T BREAK OUT THE WINDOW.

NO.

I LEFT MY LAPTOP AND THE KEYS IN THE CAR AND THE DOOR UNLOCKED.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

>>> WHAT ABOUT TUITION?

FOR A LONG TIME, THOSE ON THE LEFT AND DEMOCRATIC PARTY PUT PRESSURE ON THE WHITE HOUSE TO FORGIVE STUDENT DEBT.

PRESIDENT BIDEN ANNOUNCED THAT 10 THOUSAND OF STUDENT DEBT WILL BE ELIMINATED, AND 20 THOUSAND IF IT IS A PELL GRANT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.

IT IS POLITICAL.

IT IS ANN ELECTION YEAR.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW MANY AMERICANS ARE HURTING, PARTICULARLY IN THE MIDDLE CLASS.

WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY UNLIKE ALMOST EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHERE YOU HAVE TO MORTGAGE YOUR FUTURE TO GET AN EDUCATION THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT TO HAVE.

THE COLLEGE EDUCATION.

IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

BY THE WAY, PEOPLE -- >> NO TO TAX BREAKS, BUT FORGIVE THE LOANS?

>> COMPARED TO 1.3 CORPORATE TAX BREAK FOR RICH PEOPLE.

>> HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE GOVERNOR.

>> THIS IS NATIONAL.

IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO DO THIS.

THE ARGUMENT IS I DON'T HAVE IT.

BEFORE PELL GRANTS, EVERYONE THINKS IT IS GREAT.

THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE ESTABLISHED PELL GRANTS.

PEOPLE SAY WELL, I DIDN'T GET A PELL GRANT.

>> EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE.

THERE'S NEED FOR A PELL GRANT.

THIS IS NOT A LOAN FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

IF THEY ARE GOING TO GO BACK IN TIME, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT A FAFSA FORM IS, AND YOU WILL PULL OUT YOUR HAIR.

WE WOULD NOT HAVE QUALIFIED FOR ANYTHING.

IT IS NOT A PELL GRANT.

>> I WAS USING SOMETHING AS AN EXAMPLE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BEFORE AND NOW IT DOES.

>> I WANT TO SEE THE POLITICAL RAMIFICATIO RAMIFICATIONS.

>> BIDEN SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY CAN BEFORE NOVEMBER.

IF THEY LOSE THE SENATE, THIS IS NOT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, THIS WOULD'VE GOTTEN MORE OPPOSITION.

IT IS KIND OF LIKE THIS STRING OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, THAT BIDEN AND THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE AND THEY ARE HOPING IT STOPS THE BLEEDING.

>> CAN I ADD SOMETHING?

>> THE NAACP, IT IS NOT DOING ENOUGH FOR BLACK WOMEN, BLACK STUDENTS.

CORY BUSH STOOD BY THE PRESIDENT WITH THE STATEMENT SHE MADE.

SHE HATES PRESIDENT BIDEN.

>> SHE HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF A LOT OF BIDEN POLICIES.

>> THIS ONE -- >> BUT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> YEAH, BUT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION -- >> THIS IS ON THE MIDTERM.

THEY ARE DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE PROBLEM, THE COST OF TUITION, WHICH HAS EXCEEDED INFLATION.

>> BUT OUR KIDS ARE ABOUT TO GET OUT OF SCHOOL.

>> THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T WANT TO STEP ON TOES IN WHAT A LIBERAL BASE, THE AMERICAN CAMPUS.

THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.

ADIRONDACK CHAIRS AND LAZY RIVERS AND ALL OF THE EXCESSIVE THINGS WE DIDN'T HAVE.

>> IT WAS PRETTY COOL.

>> I WAS ABLE TO GET IN-STATE TUITION BECAUSE I WORKED AT DILLARD'S.

GREAT JOB, BY THE WAY.

YOU HAVE A POINT.

>> THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

>> IT IS CALLED THE WHITE HOUSE!

>> ARE THEY MAKING IT MIZZOU MORE AFFORDABLE?

>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE REAL WORLD.

THIS IS NOT A BULLY PULPIT.

HE DID SOMETHING TO HELP 4 MILLION AMERICAN FAMILIES WHAT THEY NEEDED TODAY -- >> HE HAD IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

THIS IS THE MIDTERM ELECTION.

>> NO, HE IS HELPING 4 MILLION PEOPLE.

>> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT!

>> YOU ARE AMAZING!

>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE TUITION, THEY ALL NEED IT.

THESE ARE AMERICANS WHO ARE STRUGGLES.

WHEN IT COMES TO A TAX CUT.

OH, THEY DON'T NEED THE MONEY!

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.

IT IS NOT PEOPLE NEEDING THE MONEY, BUT THE LACK OF SERVICES IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER STATE.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHO THE NEED THE MONEY?

WE NEED THE MONEY HERE AT THE 9 NETWORK.

>> HERE'S A WAY YOU CAN HELP US.

WE HAVE DONNYBASH.

WE HAVE THE DETAILS.

>> >> TURNING ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING ON BOND DONNYBROOK.

THERE ARE INTERESTING TOPICS AND CONVERSATIONS.

I NEVER WATCH DONNYBROOK WITHOUT HAVING A LAUGH OR TWO.

IF YOU ARE A FAN OF DONNYBROOK AND YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT TO OUR REGION, WOULD YOU PLEASE BECOME A MEMBER.

MAYBE YOU ARE A MEMBER AND IT IS TIME TO RENEW.

I INVITE YOU TO HELP THE SHOW YOU LOVE SO MUCH.

>> FOR 75 DOLLARS, AND IN RETURN, YOU WILL GET THE MUG, OR YOU WILL GET A TICKET TO DONNYBASH.

OR IF YOU PREFER, YOU CAN JOIN US AT 12 DOLLARS A MONTH AS A SUSTAINING MEMBER, YOU WILL GET A GREAT PACKAGE.

TWO TICKETS TO GO SEE DONNYBASH AS WELL AS THE MUG.

THAT'S HAPPENING ON JUNE 15 AT THE SHELDON.

IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN TO DONNYBASH.

YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE.

THERE'S A PRE-PARTY.

IT IS SO MUCH FUN.

AND A SHOW, AND THEN THE AFTER-PARTY.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE DONNYBROOK AND THOSE WHO ENJOY THE SHOW.

IF YOU DO, PLEASE JOIN US NOW?

THANK YOU.

>> WE ARE LOOKING FOR EVERYONE TO JOIN US JUNE 15, 2023 FOR DONNYBASH.

IT IS HARD TO SEE THAT.

>> IN JUNE, AT THE SHELDON.

IS THAT WHAT I SAY?

MAYBE NOT.

WE RAISE MONEY FOR 9 PBS.

WHO BRINGS YOU COMMERCIAL FREE HOURS, LIKE THE NEWS HOUR AND OTHER PROGRAMS, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND FOR KIDS.

CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.

ENJOY A GREAT PROGRAM ALONG WITH SOME ADULT BEVERAGES.

OR NOT.

AND A GREAT PROGRAM.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF DONNYBASH.

AND WE COULDN'T BE MORE ENTHUSIASTIC IN ASKING YOU TO JOIN US NEXT JOIN.

>> IT WAS FUN IN JUNE.

>> IT WAS.

>> I THOUGHT WHEN WE SET IT UP -- NOT WE -- WE JUST SHOW UP.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I FELT LIKE, LATE SEPTEMBER, FALL.

I LIKED IT IN JUNE.

I REALLY DID.

IT IS -- IT WORKED.

SELFISH.

IT WORKED OUT FOR ME.

>> THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.

SO MANY PEOPLE WHO COME, COME EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

AND THAT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.

IT IS AN ENJOYABLE NIGHT.

AND PEOPLE MAKE FRIENDS.

BECAUSE YOU SEE POCKETS OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT COME TOGETHER.

YOU FIND OUT LATER THEY JUST MET AT DONNYBASH.

FRIENDSHIPS ARE FORMED AND ALLIANCES FORGE.

IT IS A GREAT, GREAT THING TO DO.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN IT WAS IN OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER, IT WAS COMPETING WITH THE PLAYOFFS.

>> YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.

>> I HAVEN'T CHECKED THE CALENDAR.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IT WILL COMPETE WITH A BLUE'S HOME GAME?

STANLEY CUP?

>> YEAH.

LET'S HOPE NOT.

>> AND THE FINALS IN ST. LOUIS.

>> LIKE I CARE.

>> I CARE TOO.

>> YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE ST. LOUIS HAWKS.

I REALLY CARE.

MY POINT IS -- IT IS A GREAT TIME.

IT IS A GREAT TIME OF YEAR.

>> I AGREE.

YOU CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH.

IT IS SUCH A PRIVILEGE FOR US TO MEET OUR AUDIENCE.

MIGHT BE GET A TIP BEFORE THE SHOW.

>> YOU AND GET THAT HANDSOME MUG.

IT IS THE SAME MUG WE USE ON THE SHOW.

ALVIN WAS HOLDING THAT UP.

GREAT HAND MODEL.

>> WE'LL SEE YOU THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOU HELPING OUT.

>> JASON ROSENBAUM, FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS WEEK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK.

>> WE HAD JAY, THE SECRETARY OF STATE ON NEXT UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND HE POINTED OUT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY VOTE AUGUST 28 IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

SHOWING A BANK STATEMENT OR A UTILITY BILL, AND NOW A PHOTO ID IS NEEDED.

THAT'S A TARGET OF ONE OF TWO LAWSUITS FILED THIS WEEK.

>> THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE.

I THINK EVEN PROPONENTS OF THE GOVERNOR-ISSUED PHOTO ID.

IT IS NOT A LAW YET.

IT GOES AUGUST 27.

>> 28.

>> IT IS STILL A BILL FOR A FEW MORE DAYS.

I THINK EVERYONE KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LAWSUIT OVER THERE.

IF THERE WAS A PHOTO ID.

2006, 2016, THERE WAS A LAWSUIT OVER IT.

PRIMARILY DEMOCRATS AND PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT DEMOCRATS, THAT IT EFFECTS THE MINORITIES AND THE ELDERLY.

THOSE WHO CAN'T GET A PHOTO ID.

THERE'S A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT ALLOWS THE LEGISLATURE TO PASS A PHOTO ID LAW.

THAT WAS KNOCKED DOWN IN 2020, IT WAS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT IT HAD LEGAL DEFECTS TO IT.

THOSE WHO OPPOSE THIS LAW ARE OPENING FOR THE SAME OUTCOME.

IF IT HAPPENS, IT WILL BE HERE TO STAY FOREVER.

>> IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT MISSOURI.

IT IS ABOUT MISSOURI.

I HAVE OFFENDED THEM, DO NOT ACCUSE THEM OF INDEPENDENT THOUGHT.

THIS IS A NATIONAL STRATEGY.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT IS AMAZING.

THEY NEED A PROOFREADER TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T MAKE UP THE MISTAKES ON THE BILL.

IT IS THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION LOOKING FOR THE PROBLEM.

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CASE OF VOTER FALSE IDENTIFICATION EVER PROSECUTED IN THE CASE FOR PRETENDING TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT IS CURED BY AN ID.

LOOK, IT IS A HURDLE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.

IT PUTS A HURDLE UP, 170 THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO ARE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH A HURDLE.

IT IS NOT COMPLICATED AS THAT.

>> IT IS TRUE OR UNTRUE, JASON, THAT IN 200 -- WE NEED FACTS.

>> WE NEED FACTS.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> IN 2005, THE PHOTO ID REQUIREMENT WAS BECAUSE OF A BIPARTISAN FEDERAL COMMISSION AND TWO OF THE PRINCIPLES WAS FORMER PRESIDENT CARTER AND JAMES BAKER?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PHOTO ID BECAME THE BOOGIEMAN.

AND ABSENTEE BALLOTS ARE NOT.

>> IN 2006, THE ARGUMENT WAS THAT IT REQUIRES GETTING A GOVERNMENT-ISSUED PHOTO ID WAS LIKE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR OTHER DOCUMENTS.

IF PEOPLE CAN'T GET THOSE DOCUMENTS, IT IS A FINANCIAL HURDLE.

IT IS ADDRESSED IN THIS BILL.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

THAT HAS BEEN THE ARGUMENT.

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT FACTUALLY, SINCE WE ARE USING FACTS.

SOMETHING NEW ON THIS PROGRAM.

[LAUGHTER.]

J JASON, THANK YOU.

>> WHEN THE MAYOR WAS WRITING THE 500 DOLLAR CHECKS -- YOU HAD TO HAVE A PHOTO ID.

>> GOOD POINT.

>> YOU HAD TO HAVE A PHOTO ID!

I DIDN'T HEAR FROM ANYONE ON THIS PANEL SAYING IT WAS A HURDLE.

>> GOING BACK TO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH MARTIN SITTING IN THAT CHAIR.

LOOK, TO VOTE WHEN I WAS BORN, MEANT YOU MIGHT BE RISKING YOUR LIFE.

GETTING A PHOTO ID WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, THIS COULD BE OVERCOME AND IT IS PAID FOR.

BASICALLY, IN THIS BILL.

NO.

NO.

I AGREE IT IS A HURDLE.

IT COULD BE CLEARED.

I'M MORE UPSET WITH THIS IF I HAVE VOLUNTEERS GOING TO REGISTRY PEOPLE TO VOTE AND I BUY THEM A PIZZA AND I CAN GO TO PRISON, WHAT IS THAT?

>> THAT'S ANOTHER LAWSUIT.

>> THAT IS -- >> YOU CAN'T PAY PEOPLE TO R REGISTER VOTER.

YOU HAVE TO REGISTER 60 DAYS PRIOR.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO REGISTER MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE TO VOTE, YOU HAVE TO REGISTER YOURSELF WITH THE STATE.

>> IT IS THE SAME POINT.

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CRIMINALIZE OTHER PEOPLE TO VOTE.

IT IS APART OF THE SAME THING.

WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- NO ONE IS ARGUING.

I HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

EVERYONE HAS IT HERE.

NO ONE HAS A PROBLEM TO SHOW THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED MAY NOT HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

AND PEOPLE WHO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION DOESN'T HAVE.

IT IS PROVEN TO MAKE IT LESS LIKELY, NOT THAT THEY CAN'T OVERCOME IT.

THEY ARE PLAYING THE ODDS.

WHATEVER NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY CAN DISFRANCHISE.

>> YOU DERIVE THOSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISLAND.

THE TRUMPERS, RIGHT?

YOU DON'T THINK HIGHLY OF THEM.

>> JOSH HOLLY -- >> HOW ARE THEY -- WITH NO MENTAL -- HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO GET DRIVER'S LICENSE OR PHOTO ID?

>> BECAUSE THEY HAVE -- >> THESE ARE THE DUMBEST PEOPLE, AS YOU SAY.

>> NO, NO, I DIDN'T SAY THEY ARE DUMB.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL.

WHAT I'M SAYING, TAKE SOMEBODY -- WE TALK ABOUT THE URBAN RURAL THINGS.

I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY IS DUMB.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A POPULATION, I PICKED OUT THE DIABILITIES, ADD THE ELDERLY, AND THOSE WHO RIDE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

THOSE PEOPLE ARE LARGE, NOT EXCLUSIVELY, THEY ARE LARGELY DEMOCRAT.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE PHOTO ID.

YOU ARE REQUIRING THEM -- IT IS NOT ABOUT BEING SMART.

IF THE DIABILITIES AND PEOPLE ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WERE REPUBLICAN, THIS WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING.

>> ONE, AS RAY WAS SAYING THIS IS A NATIONAL THING.

AND SOME COME DOWN TO CONGRESSIONAL RACES, IT IS ABOUT REDISTRICTING.

THE NERVE OF ALL YOU BLACK PEOPLE TO SHOW TO VOTE, YOU ARE BEING PUNISHED, IT IS UP TO YOU TO OVERCOME IT.

YOU HAVE TO OVERCOME IT.

>> WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE OUT OF TOWN AND GET AN ABSENTEE BALLOT FOR THAT REASON AND ARE NOT.

I HAVE TALKED TO REPUBLICAN ELECTION OFFICIALS AND DEMOCRATIC OFFICIALS, THERE'S NO WAY FOR OFFICIALS TO PROVE THAT.

AND THE BIGGEST PROPONENTS TO GET RID AND THERE IS A CAR -- NO EXCUSE ABSENTEE.

IT KEEPS THE EXCUSE SYSTEM?

PLACE.

REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THAT SYSTEM EVEN THOUGH IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY UNFORCEABLE AND BROKEN.

>> IT IS VOTER SUBPOE -- PUSHING VOTERS DOWN.

>>> YADIER MOLINA, THIS PAST WEEK, HE DID TAKE TWO DAYS OFF TO HEAD TO PUERTO RICO TO WATCH THE TEAM HE OWNS AND THEY WON.

GOOD FOR HIM.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE A GUY IN THE MIDDLE OF A RACE TAKING OFF LIKE THAT?

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND SPORTS.

PLAYING ON TEAMS.

TWO OF OUR BEST PLAYERS ON THE CARDINALS TOOK TWO DAYS OFF BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GET VACCINATED.

AND -- TOOK OFF DAYS TO SAVE HIS MARRIAGE OR WHATEVER.

WHO KNOWS.

I HAVE TO GO SEE MY BASKETBALL TEAM IN PUERTO RICO PLAY.

SEE YOU.

WAIT.

HOLD IT.

I'M NOT VINCE.

BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

>> BASKETBALL IS A BETTER SPORT THAN BASEBALL.

OH!

>> [LAUGHTER.]

>> OH!

>> WE SHOULD HAVE AN NBA TEAM.

>> WE SHOULD!

>> AND ANYBODY LIKE ME WHO HAD A HARD-CORE BUCKS FAN AND SEE THE TEAM WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

I WANT ST. LOUIS TO FEEL THE SAME THING.

AND I DON'T BLAME HIM FOR CHOOSING BASKETBALL OVER BASEBALL.

>> I'M A CARDINAL, AND WHITE SOX ARE MY TEAM TOO.

>> WHATEVER YADIER MOLINA WANTS TO DO, IT IS FINE WITH ME.

>> ME TOO.

>> I GET IT.

>> HERE'S MY THOUGHT, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, IT REALLY WOULD HAVE TO BE -- IT IS MANAGEMENT.

AND I WOULD THINK IF IT WERE A PROBLEM.

HE PLAYS 62 GAMES A YEAR.

HE IS SCHEDULED FOR THE REST.

HE TOOK A COUPLE OF GAMES OFF.

IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE VACCINATION THING.

HE IS AN OLDER GUY.

>> RIGHT.

>> IT COULD BE A PROBLEM IN THE CLUB HOUSE.

I'M GUESSING IT IS NOT.

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> IN HIS CASE, HE GETS A FREE PASS.

THOSE GUYS ARE -- HE DESCRIBES HIMSELF AS THE GRANDFATHER.

HE IS HITTING 2 HOME RUNS A NIGHT.

IF ALBERT WANTS TO TAKE A COUPLE OF NIGHTS OFF.

>> IN THE 1930'S, HE WAS PLAYING, HE TOOK OFF 2-3 DAYS IN A RACE TO GET MARRIED TO HIS WIFE, GRACE, WHO WAS FROM ST. LOUIS.

AND THE MANAGER WAS ASKED ABOUT IT.

AND HE SAID, IT IS A HECK OF A TIME TO GET MARRIED.

>> HE WAS A ROLE MODEL.

>> CARDINALS ARE THREE GAMES UP?

>> FIVE.

>> IN THERE WERE TIED.

THERE IS STILL 40 GAMES LEFT.

>> WE WON BOTH GAMES WHEN HE WAS GONE.

>> THIRTY SECONDS.

>> CARDINALS 25, 27, EVERY MAN IN THAT ROOM DOESN'T CARE WHEN SOMEBODY TAKES ABSENT.

THAT IS NOT TRUE.

>> YOU SAY THEY DO?

>> OH, YEAH.

THEY MAY NOT SPEAK UP.

I'M SAYING, ANY CLUB HOUSE -- I GOT FINED ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE FOR DONNYBASH.

THAT'S THE RULE.

>> RIGHT.

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>> THANKS SO MUCH TO JASON ROSENBAUM FOR FILLING IN FOR BILL MCCLELLAN.

WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

WE HOPE YOU ARE TOO.

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