>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, LATEST ON U.S.

CUSTOM'S AND BORDER PROTECTION TEMPORARILY CLOSING THE LUKEVILLE ARIZONA CHECK POINT AND A FEDERAL APPEAL'S COURT RULES THAT DONALD TRUMP IS NOT IMMUNE TO BEING SUED FOR THE JANUARY 6th RIOT AT THE U.S. CAPITOL.

>> WE'LL HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE ARIZONA HORIZON MAKERS HONORED BY THE HISTORICAL LEAGUE.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> THIS HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF PBS, MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION.

THANK YOU.

>> Ted: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

ARIZONA ATTORNEY GENERAL, KRIS MAYES WILL MEET NEXT WITH KENNETH CHESBRO.

THEYOF NOTE, CHESBRO HELPED AND COOPERATED WITH NEVADA OFFICIALS ON A FAKE ELECTORAL PLOT THERE AND TODAY, A NEVADA GRAND JURY INDICTED SIX REPUBLICANS FOR PRETENDING TO BE ELECTORS AND SUBMITTING FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS.

THE PENALTIES CARRY A MAXIMUM FIVE-YEAR PRISON SENTENCE AND ONE YEAR IN PRISON.

NEVADA IS THE THIRD STATE TO HAND DOWN FAKE INDICTMENTS FOLLOWING MICHIGAN AND GEORGIA.

>>> AND A COCHIS COUNTY SAYS THEY WILL NOT BILL PAYS WITH TWO CHARGED FOR ELECTION INTERFERENCE.

TOM CROSBY AND JUDD AND INVOLVES, TWO, QUOTE, REGULAR PEOPLE ACTING ON THEIR OWN AND AS SUCH, THE CASE DOES NOT INVOLVE THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF COUNTY RESOURCES.

>>> THE RECENT CLOSURE EFFORT LOOP OF ENTRY WITH BORDER HAS BEEN DENOUNCED BY ARIZONA STATE AND FEDERAL LEADERS AS AN UNNECESSARY DESTABILIZATION OF THE BORDER.

FOR MORE AND WHY THE CROSSING HAS BEEN CLOSED WE, WELCOME THE IMMIGRATION'S REPORTER AT THE ARIZONA REPORTER.

RAFAEL, GOOD TO HAVE YOU AND WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?

>> I THINK IT IS COMMITTED TO A SHIFT WHERE PEOPLE ARE BOARDING, WHERE PEOPLE WERE USING THE MAIN CORRIDOR FOR PEOPLE TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES, THAT ESSENCES SHIFTED TO ARIZONA, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTHERN ARIZONA, WESTERN PIMA COUNTY.

THAT AREA HAS SEEN AN EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE CROSSING THERE.

JUST IN THE LAST WEEK OF NOVEMBER ITSELF, IT WAS 17,000 PEOPLE THAT WERE APPREHENDED.

THAT'S 2500 WHICH IS FAR ABOVE WHAT BORDER PATROL HAS CAPACITY FOR AND IT RESULTED IN LENGTHY DELAYS IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO PROCESS EVERYBODY THEY PICK UP.

>> Ted: COMING OVER INSTEAD OF TEXAS BECAUSE OF TIGHTENING OF EFFORTS IN TEXAS?

>> THERE SEEMS TO BE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.

WHENEVER YOU SEE A LOT OF ATTENTION BEING PLACED IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA OF THE BORDER, AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH TEXAS, MIGRANTS KIND OF TEND TO SHIFT OTHER AREAS AND ARIZONA FOR A LONG TIME HAD BEEN THE MAIN CORRIDOR.

WHEN TEXAS TOOK TOOK THAT OR.

>> Ted: THREE REDIRECTING RESOURCES TO HANDLE THIS.

CAN YOU NOT HANDLE THIS AND KEEP THAT PORT OPEN IN.

>> BORDER PATROL WOULD SAY THEY NEED AN ALL-HANDS-ON-DECK SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE PURE NUMBERS OF THE PEOPLE YOU DO HAVE COMING ACROSS.

MINE, WHEN YOU HAVE 2500 ON AVERAGE PER DAY, THAT TAKES, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE MAN POWER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE MIGRANTS TO THEM, PROCESS THEM AND TRANSPORT THEM AND IT'S A MOVING PUZZLE AND THERE'S A LOT OF BOTTLENECKS THAT CAN OCCUR IN THIS SITUATION.

BUT I THINK BORDER PATROL WOULD MAKE THE CASE THAT EVEN IF IT'S A HANDFUL OF CUSTOM'S OFFICERS FROM THIS PORT OF ENTRY, JUST ANY NUMBER WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, SPEEDING OF THE PROCESSING OF THE MIGRANTS COMING THROUGH.

>> Ted: WHEN PROCESS AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY GO OFF TO AHO AND WHAT HAPPENS?

>> SO ONCE THE MIGRANTS ARE PICKED UP AND THE MAJORITY OF THEM AFTER THEY CROSS THE BORE, BORDER, THEY WAIT TO BE PICKED UP AND SOMETIMES WAITING FOR HOURS AND DAYS, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING A LARGER NUMBER.

ONCE BORDER PATROL PICKS THEM UP, THEY WILL TRANSPORT THEM TO A STAGING FACILITY AND TRANSPORTATION IS A BIG, BIG, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KEY THING BECAUSE THE DISTANCES THERE ARE GREAT AND SO EVEN AHO IS 40 MINUTES AWAY FROM THE BORDER FENCE ITSELF.

SO THERE IS A STEADY STREAM OF VANS AND BUSES THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY FARING THE MIGRANTS FROM THE BORDER TO THE STATION WHERE THEY ARE THEN PROCESSED AND AT THAT POINT, ASKED IF THEY'RE CLAIMING ASYLUM OR RELEASED UNDER HUMANITARIAN RELEASE, THEY WILL TRANSPORT THEM TO PHOENIX OR TUCSON TO THE NONPROFITS.

>> Ted: THAT MEANS HAVING TO CLOSE LUKEVILLE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TO GO AROUND?

>> THAT'S WHAT BORDER PATROL HAS BEEN SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE SITUATION THERE AND BECAUSE THEY'RE OVERWHELMED BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING ACROSS, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY NEEDED TO REDUCE THE PRAYINGS OPERATIONS TO HELP WITH THE PROCESSING OF MIGRANTS?

>> Ted: HOW BUSY IS THE LUKEVILLE CROSSING FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC?

>> IT'S DEFINITELY A SMALLER AREA.

WE HAVE SIX HERE IN ARIZONA AND THE FOURTH BUSIEST IN TERMS OF PASSENGER TRAFFIC.

I THINK MOST PEOPLE KNOW THIS AS THE MAIN KIND OF GATEWAY TO ROCKY POINT, SO, YOU KNOW, NATURALLY, THIS IS VERY POPULAR DURING THE SPRING AND THE SUMMER MONTHS AND TRAFFIC PEAKS.

DECEMBER THROUGH FEBRUARY IS THE SLOWEST TIME FOR PASSENGER TRAFFIC, BUT IT IS STILL, YOU KNOW, ROCKY POINT IS AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE AND THE BORDER THAT ALSO INTERACTS WITH EACH OTHER.

>> Ted: WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT?

YOU WOULD THINK -- I MEAN, ROCKY POINT, THAT'S IT.

THAT'S BASICALLY IT TOWN DOWN THERE THEY'VE WILL BE A HIT.

DECEMBER TO FEBRUARY IS RELATIVELY SLOW.

>> BECAUSE IT IS THE CLOSEST DESTINATION, BEACH DESTINATION, THERE'S INDIVIDUALS IN PHOENIX AND ELSEWHERE WHO OWN HOMES OR TIME SHARES OR CONDOS AND SO, THIS ESSENTIALLY KIND OF LIMITS THEIR ACCESS SO THEY WILL GO THROUGH NOLAGES ADDING TWO HOUR'S DRIVING TIME AND THERE'S THAT IMPACT TIME, AS WELL.

>> Ted: AN EXTRA TWO TO THREE HOURS.

THAT'S AN EXTRA RIDE.

YOU MENTIONED DECEMBER TO FEBRUARY AND BY MARCH, DO YOU THINK THE PRESSURE IS THERE TO OPEN IT UP?

>> THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF MIGRANTS COMING THROUGH AND SO LONG AS BORDER PATROL DOESN'T RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE, I THINK WE COULD SEE THAT CLOSED.

THERE'S BEEN OTHER INSTANCES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION SHUT DOWN OPERATIONS AT OTHER PORT FACILITIES.

IN TIJUANA, THEY SHUT DOWN THE BRIDGE FOR THREE YEARS AND IN EAGLE BRANCH, FOR A MONTH.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT RESOURCES THEY RECEIVE AND STATE LEADERS ARE CALLING ON THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO REDIRECT THOSE RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THE PORT OFEN INDUSTRY IS REOPENED.

>> Ted: ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE COULD COME BY WAY OF A NATIONAL GUARD IN ARIZONA AND I KNOW REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS ARE ALL OVER THIS AND WANT THE GOVERNOR TO CALL OUT THE NATIONAL GUARD AND DO IT, LIKE, RIGHT NOW AND HOW LIKELY IS THAT AND WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL?

>> SO TODAY, GOVERNOR HOBBS HAS NOT INDICATED WHETHER SHE WILL DO THAT.

WE CERTAINLY SAW THIS HAPPENING DURING WITH FORMER GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY, WHERE HE WAS ABLE TO DEPLOY THE NATIONAL GUARD AND THEY HAD A REDUCED ROLE IN PORTIONS OF THE BORDER AND CERTAINLY MORE OF IN A BACKGROUND CAPACITY, ASSISTING WITH THE PROCESSING.

WE COULD SEE THAT HAPPEN THIS TIME AND THAT WOULD BE AUTHORIZED.

WEWE ALSO HEARD FROM DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS WHO REPRESENT THE AREA THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FEMA TAKE THAT GREATER ROLE IN RESPONDING AND HAVING DECLARED AS AN EMERGENCY THAT WOULD ENABLE FEMA TO DEPLOY GREATER RESOURCES TO THE AREA, AS WELL.

>> IF THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT SO FAR, WILL THEY DO THAT NOW?

>> THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY IS WAITING FOR AT THIS POINT.

THE PRESSURE IS MOUNTING ON THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE ACTION.

THE LONGER WE SEE THE CROSSING CLOSED, THE LONGER WE SEE THE PRESSURE GROW.

>> HAVE YOU HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN BORDER TOWNS?

>> I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THERE'S A CONCERN THAT COULD HAPPEN IN OTHER PORTS OF ENTRY, AS WELL AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN LUKEVILLE KIND OF HAS BEEN THE CULMINATION OF THIS LARGE NUMBER OF MIGRANTS CROSSING, BUT IT COULD SHIFT TO OTHER PORTS OF THE BORDER.

IF THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THAT IN OTHER PLACES IN TEXAS AND EAGLE PASS WHERE BORDER PATROL AND CVP HAS SHUT DOWN THE OPERATIONS AT THOSE PORTS OF ENTRY AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT IT'S HAPPENING AND MAY NOT BE THE LAST.

BUT I THINK IT WILL DEPEND ON THAT.

>> Ted: WAS THIS IS A SURPRISE AT ALL IN.

>> IT TOOK MANY PEOPLE BY SURPRISE.

BORDER PATROL HAS BEEN OVERWHELMED, PARTICULARLY THAT PART OF THE BORDER.

SINCE THE SUMMER, THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF MIGRANTS CROSSING THROUGH AND THEY HAD A GREAT NUMBER OF RESCUES THROUGH THIS AREA BECAUSE IT'S REMOTE AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GREATER RISK OF MIGRANTS DYING WITH THE ATTEMPT TO CROSS.

THEY SHIFT A LOT OF ATTENTION DURING THAT TIME AND USUALLY, THE TRAFFIC DIES DOWN AFTER THE SUMMER AND THIS TIME WE'VE SEEN IT GROW CONSISTENTLY.

AND SO, I THINK THAT FOR OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN THE AREA, THEY MIGHT BE SURPRISED.

BUT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE GROUND, I FEEL LIKE THEY SAW THIS COMING, AS WELL.

>> RAFAEL, ARIZONA REPUBLICAN, GREAT JOB AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: UP NEXT, PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNEITY AND DONALD TRUMP'S ACTION LEADING TO THE RIOT AT THE CAPITOL.

>> JOIN US EACH WEEK AS WE GO INSIDE YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANTS IN AND AROUND PHOENIX.

WE'LL DISH ON WHAT IS HOT AND WHAT'S NOT FROM WHITE TABLE CLOTHES AND CRYSTALS TO YOUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOUR TABLE IS READY SO PULL UP A CHAIR FOR "CHECK, PLEASE, ARIZONA" RIGHT HERE ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> COME AND EXPERIENCE THE DELIGHTFUL WAY THE TOWNS OF THE REGION OF FRANCE CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.

YOU'LL SEE THE DECORATED STORYBOOK TOWNS, MEET COLORFUL CHARACTERS AND LEARN OF THE WINTER TRADITIONS OF THE REGION.

SHARING THE WARMTH AND MAGIC OF THE HOLIDAYS.

PAIR >> THURSDAY NIGHT AT 9:30 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> Ted: A FEDERAL APPEAL'S COURT RULED THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT IMMUNE TO BEING SUED FOR HIS ACTIONS AT THE U.S. CAPITOL.

THIS DESPITE HE'S PROTECTED FROM CIVIL SUITS PAW OF PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY.

FOR MORE ON THIS, WE TURN TO ASU'S SANDRA DAY SCHOOL OF LAW.

>> HIS CLAIM IS A REMARKABLY BROAD CLAIM AND IT WAS PROPERLY REJECTED BY THE COURT EVER OF APPEALS.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS QUESTIONABLE AT ALL.

WHAT TRUMP IS CLAIMING, WHILE HE'S PRESIDENT, ANYTHING HE DOES THAT HAS TO DO WITH PUBLIC INTEREST IS ABSOLUTELY IMMUNE FROM CHALLENGE UNDER THE LAW.

TRESPASSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THAT HE'S COMPLETELY IMMUNE FROM THAT BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

NOW, WHAT YOU'RE RELYING ON IS A CASE OF THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION THAT SAID WHEN A PRESIDENT DOES SOME OFFICIAL IN HIS TIME IN OFFICE, HE IS IMMUNE TO DOING THAT OFFICIAL.

SO THE ISSUE IN THIS CASE IS WHETHER WHAT THE PRESIDENT WAS JUNEDOING ON JANUARY 6th AND THE COURT HELD IT WASN'T OFFICIAL BUT CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY.

THEREFORE THE IMMUNITY DIDN'T HOLD.

THAT'S A SIMPLE DECISION AND A SIMPLE QUESTION.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN OUTRIGHT JUSTLY BROAD CLAIM THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN DO ANYTHING WHILE HE'S PRESIDENT?

THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC INTEREST AND HE CAN'T BE SUED FOR THAT?

WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM?

>> Ted: MATTERS OF PUBLIC CONCERN AND OFFICIAL CAPACITY, I UNDERSTAND HE MIGHT BE AND PERHAPS HE IS, USING THE SAME ARGUMENTS IN THE CRIMINAL CASES?

>> I THINK SO.

I'M NOT SURE THE RULE IS THE SAME IN THE CRIMINAL CASES, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH DIFFERENT.

THE IDEA THAT AS PRESIDENT, WHAT HAS IMMUNITY GOT TO DO WITH IT?

DID HE DO ANYTHING WRONG AND IF HE DID, WHY SHOULD HE BE IMMUNE?

YOU'RE NOT IMMUNE AND I'M NOT IMMUNE AND WHY SHOULD HE.

THAT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS BEING PERVASIVE.

A LOT OF FREEDOM TO DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN DANGER IF YOU CAN BE SUED FOR THE THINGS HE DOES THAT VIOLATES THE LAW.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN THAT SITUATION AND MANAGES TO SURVIVE THAT WAY.

SO IT'S A BROAD CLAIM AND I THINK IT'S PROPERLY REJECTED AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL ARISE ANYMORE.

>> Ted: WHEN IT COMES TO PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, WHAT GOOD IS PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY IF A PRESIDENT IS NOT IMMUNE TO THE SAME THING THE REST OF US ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MINE MEAN IS NOT IMMUNE.

THE PRESIDENT SHOULD NOT BE IMMUNE FOR WHAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

BUT THIS COURT -- THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION CASE, IT CHANGED THAT AND SAID, HEY, IF WHAT HE DOES IS OFFICIAL, HE'S IMMUNE AND DOESN'T MATTER HE'S WRONG, AS LONG IT'S OFFICIAL CONDUCT.

IN THAT CASE, THEY HELD IT WASN'T OFFICIAL CONDUCT.

IN THIS CASE, IT WASN'T OFFICIAL CONDUCT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT THEORY COMES FROM.

IF YOU VIOLATE THE LAW AND YOU'RE PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BE AS LIBLE AG AS ANYBODY ELSE.

>> Ted: INCITEMENT TO VIOLENCE, WHAT IS THAT?

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

>> Ted: HE'S TALKING ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTION AND THINKS FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTION IS ALSO AT PLAY AND THE OTHER SIDE WOULD SAY INCITEMENT OF VIOLENCE IS AT PLAY.

AGAIN, WORK OUT THE MECHANICS HERE.

ARE HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS BEING VIOLATED HERE?

>> THAT'S HIS CLAIM, SINCE HE'S TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND PRESIDENT, HE HAS A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO DO THAT.

IF HE INCITES THE VIOLENCE, HOWEVER, THOSE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS GO AWAY AND THIS CASE DOESN'T CHANGE THAT IN THE LEAST.

THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE NOT COME UP IN THIS CASE.

IT'S A STRANGE CASE BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT HIS CHARGE WAS DOING THAT VIOLATES THE LAW.

IS HE IMMUNE FOR WHAT HE DID WITHOUT DISCUSSION OF WHAT HE TALEACTUALLY DID?

THE COURT IS WRONG TO JUMP.

THEY SHOULD SAY SHOULD HE BE L OFLIBEL AND YOU HAVE TO ASK IF EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD BE AND WHY SHOULD THE PRESIDENT NOT BE LIBLE.

THIS CASE DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT ACCEPTS THE IDEA IF THE PRESIDENT IS IN OFFICIAL CAPACITY, HE CAN'T BE SUED CIVILLY.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS COURT ACCEPTS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO OFFICIAL STUFF HERE.

SO HE IS LIBLE ANYWAY.

>> Ted: QUICKLY, IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THE COURT SAID, AND MAYBE I'M READING THIS WRONG, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO FIGHT THIS, BUT RIGHT NOW, DON'T FIGHT THIS ANYMORE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BUYING IT.

>> WELL, WE'RE NOT BUYING IT, BUT THEY SAID IF YOU, THE PRESIDENT, EXPRESIDENT, PROVE THAT WHAT YOU DID WAS OFFICIAL AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S THE PRESIDENT.

DURING THE DAY, HE DOES THINGS OFFICIAL AND NOT OFFICIAL, AND HOW DO YOU DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN THEM?

SO IF THE COURT IS SAYING IF YOU CAN PROVE WHAT YOU DID AND WHAT YOU'VE.

CHARGED WITHWITH IS OFFICIALBEHAVIOR, YOU'RE IMMUNE AND LEAVING HIM OPEN TO PROVE THAT.

AGAIN, I CAN'T REALLY DEAL WITH THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT HE'S CHARGED WITH AND THE COURT DOESN'T GO INTO THAT BUT RIGHT STRAIGHT TO THE IMMUNITY QUESTION WHICH MAKES TO SEPS TO SEPS TO SEPS TO SENSE TO ME.

>> Ted: PAUL, THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME, TED.

NICE TO TALK TO YOU.

>> WE HAVE STORIES TO TELL AND IF WE DON'T TELL THEM OURSELVES, THEY WON'T GET TOLD.

>> THEY'RE LIKE STORIES THAT WILL ELEVATE US.

>> IT WILL BE A FIRST FOR SPACE SCIENCE.

>> 3-2-1, ENGINE IGNITION AND LIFTOFF.

>> STORY-TELLING IS HOW PEOPLE CONNECT.

>> WE'RE SURVIVORS AND LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES, WE WENT THROUGH AND MADE OUR OWN OPPORTUNITY.

>> THERE'S A FREEDOM THAT IS GETTING OLDER THAT NO ONE IS TELLING YOU ABOUT.

>> YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT UP.

>> I CAN HEAR MY GRANDMOTHER SPEAKING IN THE LANGUAGE AND IT BRINGS ME HOME.

>> I WOULD NEVER EXPERIENCE THIS BEFORE.

>> HOW IS THIS IMPACTING STUDENTS?

>> BEING ON THE SHOW HELPS THE RESTAURANT.

♪♪ >> WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THAT CONNECTION TO SOMEBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS IT.

>> WHEN YOU WANT TO BE MORE CONNECTED, FRIEND US ON FACEBOOK, FOLLOW US ON TWITTER, WATCH US ONLINE.

>> I'M JEFF BENNETT, TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, THE DIRE CONDITIONS IN SOUTHERN GAZA WITH FEW MEDICAL SUPPLIES AND ALMOST NO FOOD AVAILABLE IN NEED.

COMING UP ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> Ted: THE HISTORICAL LEAGUE IS OUT WITH THIS YEAR'S HISTORY MAKERS HONORING THOSE WHO HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN CREATING ARIZONA'S HISTORY.

JOINING US NOW IS DIANA SMITH AND JOINING US IS CARRIE PAYNE FROM 360.

DIANA, HISTORICAL LEAGUE, WHAT IS THAT IN.

>> ALL ALL VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION STARTED ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO.

WE STARTED THE HISTORY MAKER'S PROGRAM IN 1992 AND EVERY OTHER YEAR, WE HONOR A GROUP OF OUTSTANDING ARIZONANS WHO HAVE MADE MAJOR CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR STATE.

>> Ted: WHAT KIND OF CRITERIA ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?

LIVING, NOT LIVING, WHAT GOES ON IN.

>> ALL LIVING AND THEY CAN BE OF ANY AGE AND ANY THE NOMINATIONS ARE SUBMITTED BY THE HISTORICAL LEAGUE AS WELL AS THE ARIZONA HISTORICAL SOCIETY, STAFF, BOARD AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DEEM SOMEONE OUTSTANDING.

>> Ted: YEAH AND CARRIE, YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW ALL OF THESE WOMEN.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT A FEW.

BUT YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW THE WINNERS AND GET THOUGHTS ON THING AND THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A NICE SURPRISE FOR THEM.

>> THANK YOU, TED, AND ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.

DIANA ASKED ME TO DO THIS PROJECT WITH HER AND MANY FOLKS ARE WELL-PHONE AND I'VE INTERVIEWED IN A JOURNALISM CAPACITY OVER THE YEARS, SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THEIR STORY, TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR HEART, WHAT DRIVES THEM BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE.

SO IT WAS TREMENDOUS TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND SHARE A TIME WITH ALL OF THEM.

>> Ted: LET'S LOOK AT THE HISTORY MAKERS HERE AND WE'LL START WITH FRANK BARRIOS WHO DIED AT THE AGE OF 81.

INTERESTING FELLOW AND WHAT A LIFE HE HAD.

>> INCREDIBLE!

I DID NOT REALIZE HOW ILL HE WAS WHEN HE CAME TO MY STUDIO AND HE WAS SO GENEROUS WITH HIS TIME.

HE WAS VERY COMMITTED TO THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

THE COMMON THREAD THROUGH ALL OF THESE STORIES, TED, WAS THAT EVERYONE WAS INCREDIBLY HUMBLE.

I HAD TO REALLY PULL IT OUT OF THEM, TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY HAVE ACHIEVED.

FRANK WAS SO PROUD OF BEING A MEXICAN AMERICAN.

HE TALKED ABOUT THE DIVERSITY IN ARIZONA AND HOW PROUD HE IS OF THE STATE AND ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF HIS BIG ISSUES AND SOMETHING THAT HE COMMITTED HIMSELF TO WAS WATER CONSERVATION.

>> Ted: WHY WAS HE HONORED?

IT SOUNDS LIKE WATER CONSERVATION AND A MASTER STORY-TELLER, IT SOUNDS LIKE.

>> HE'S WRITTEN A COUPLE OF BOOKS ON ST. VINCENT DEPAUL AND THE MEXICAN AMERICAN FAMILIES HERE IN THE PHOENIX AREA.

>> Ted: WITH QUITE A HISTORY THERE.

DIANA, JEFFREY TRENT, HE WAS HONORED AND WHY?

>> BECAUSE HE'S SUCH A PIONEER.

IT WAS AN HONOR TO HEAR HIS STORY AND THE REASON HE PICKED ARIZONA IS BECAUSE WE CARED.

THE BUSINESSES STEPPED UP, ASU STEPPED UP AND MAYO, HONOR HEALTH AND THE VARIOUS ENTITIES, BUSINESSES IN THE STATE SAID, YES, WE WILL HELP START TEACHING AND HIS DREAM WAS TO HAVE EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

>> Ted: RESEARCH DIRECTOR AND WE'VE HAD HIM ON MANY TIMES AND HE MUST HAVE BEEN FUN TO TALK TO.

>> THE FUNNY THING ABOUT THAT WAS WHEN I HOSTED THE EVENT, WHEN WE PLAYED ALL OF THE VIDEOS AND DR. TRENT SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EVEN THE SMART ONE IN THE FAMILY.

MY WIFE IS THE SMART ONE PARTNERSHIP SAID, WELL, DON'T INVITE ME FOR DINNER.

SHE'S A MENSA MEMBER.

AGAIN, HE WAS SO HUMBLE AND THE FOUNDER OF TIEGEN AND THEY'RE DOING RESEARCH THAT IS TRULY SAVING LIVES, NOT JUST IN CANCER RESEARCH, BUT THREE WORKING IN PARKINSONS, ALS, DIABETES.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE VALLEY IS SO TRANSFORMATIONAL.

HE JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE TEAM.

>> Ted: YOU TALK ABOUT CANCER AND TEIGEN AND DR. HOF, HOFF, HE'S HONORED, TOO.

>> HE WAS A WONDERFUL DELIGHT TO INTERVIEW AND HE STARTED IN A ONE-ROOM SCHOOLHOUSE IN THE MIDWEST AND HE SHARED WITH US THAT IT WAS REALLY -- IT WAS SCIENCE THAT INSPIRED HIM AND HE JUST PURSUED.

HE LOVES ARIZONA AND LOVES THE DIVERSITY HERE AND HE LOVES THAT -- AND THE DIVERSITY, THEY TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THESE HONOREES TALKED ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF CLIMATE.

YOU GO TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE, THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE STATE, THE PHOENIX AREA AND EVERYTHING IS SO VERY DIFFERENT.

AND SO, THERE'S SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT KIND OF JUST DEMOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY.

>> Ted: AND REAL QUICK, BECAUSE WE'RE RETURNING OUT OF TIME.

WE HAVE TO GET ELIZABETH WHITE IN HERE.

HOLY SMOKES!

>> SHE'S ONE OFMY FAVORITE INTERVIEWS BECAUSE EVERY WORD IS WISDOM YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO AND JUST ONE QUICK STORY ABOUT WHAT SHE TOLD ME WHEN SHE MOVED HERE IN THE '60s AND HERE SHE WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN, A SINGLE MOTHER.

SHE BORROWED $500 AND WENT OUT AND BOUGHT EVERYTHING SHE WOULD NEED BECAUSE SHE KNEW SHE HAD A SKILL AND THAT WAS MAKING SOUL FOOD.

SHE BOUGHT EVERYTHING SHE NEEDED AND HAD 60 SOME SEND LEFT.

CENTS LEFT.

I SAID YOU WERE WORKING AGAINST ALL OF THE ODDS, WERE YOU AFRAID?

>> SHE SAID, CARRIE, FEAR NEVER ENTERS MY MIND.

>> Ted: THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER.

>> YES.

>> Ted: GOOD WAY TO END THE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE EFFORT AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE WINNERS, TOO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!