GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS "A-Z VOTES 2024" SPECIAL EDITION OF ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

TONIGHT WE FEATURE A DEBATE AMONG CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY FOR MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF.

THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY, WITH SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES PATROLLING UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND MUNICIPALITIES WITHOUT A DESIGNATED POLICE FORCE.

THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ALSO OVERSEES COUNTY JAILS.

CANDIDATES IN TONIGHT'S DEBATE WILL BE ALLOTTED 60-SECONDS TO REPLY TO QUESTIONS.

AND REBUTTALS WILL BE OFFERED.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THE CANDIDATES, IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER: MIKE CRAWFORD IS A VETERAN WHO HAS SERVED AS A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY, POLICE OFFICER AND SPECIAL DEA AGENT FRANK MILSTEAD HAS WORKED AS A POLICE OFFICER, A CITY POLICE CHIEF AND DIRECTOR OF THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY... AND JERRY SHERIDAN, WHO HAS A 40-YEAR CAREER WITH THE MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SERVING AS A DETENTION OFFICER, A DEPUTY AND CHIEF DEPUTY OVERSEEING THE OFFICE.

WE BEGIN WITH OPENING STATEMENTS.

AND AGAIN, GOING IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, WE START WITH MIKE CRAWFORD.

>> THANK YOU.

TO THE VOTER IN MIR COPA COUNTY MY ANYMORE IS MIKE CRAWFORD I SERVED YOU IN THE UNITED STATES AIRFORCE.

AND THEN SERVED OUR COMMUNITIES FOR OVER 28 YEARS AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

I BRING HONESTY TO THE RACE AND MY GOAL TO BRING SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO WHERE THIS NEEDS TO BE.

IN MY YEARS AS LAW ENFORCEMENT I SET AN EXAMPLE AS A LEADER AMONG MY PEERS AND IN TEACHING AT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY.

IT IS MY GOAL TO SHOW THE DEPUTIES WHAT A REAL LEADER LOOKS LIKE.

>> THANK YOU.

AND NOW THE OPENING STATEMENT FROM FRANK MILSTEAD.

I'M FRANK A NATIVE ARIZONA BORN IN PHOENIX 35 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

LEAD 2 OF THE LARGEST POLICE AGENCIES IN THE STATE I STARTED IN 85 AS A POLICE OFFICER WORK WEST SIDE OF PHOENIX THE BEST YEARS.

MY POLICING CAREERS.

IN 2010 I LEFT THE MESA POLICE DEPARTMENT THE CHIEF THERE UNTIL 2015 WHEN THE GOVERNOR ASKED ME TO LEAD THE ARIZONA PUBLIC PASTE.

I INSTITUTED POLICY.

I MADE A CAREER OUT OF TAKING GOOD PEOPLE, PUTTING THEM TOGETHER TO SOLVE COMPLEX, WHAT AT HAND AT THE MARICOPA SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IF EVERYTHING WAS SMOOTH AND HAPPY THERE I DON'T KNOW I WOULD VIOLATE SAME INTERESTS AS I DO WITH THE FACT THERE IS FRICTION AND PROBLEMS THAT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CREATIVITY AND GAFF ANIZING A COMMON GOALISM LOOK FORWARD TO THE DEBATE.

MIKE AND JERRY GOOD TO SEE YOU THANK YOU.

>> AND NOW THE OPENING STATEMENT FROM JERRY SHERIDAN THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY PEOPLE ASK ME, WHY ARE YOU RUNNING FOR SHERIFF YOU SPENT 40 YEARS THERE.

THE ANSWER IS EASY.

I HAVE A PASSION FOR THE MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IT WAS A SECOND FAMILY TO ME I WAS 18 WHEN I STARTED SPENT 40 YEARS THERE.

I GREW UP THERE.

I HAVE A PASSION FOR THE ORGANIZATION AND THE OTHER THING I HAVE A PASSION ABOUT IS KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE THAT IS WHEN WE DO AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I KNOW I WAS SPENT 40 YEARS THERE.

THERE ARE TWO WAYS.

ONE, KEEP A JAIL SYSTEM THAT ALL 25 POLICE MUNICIPALITIES IN THIS COUNTY UTILIZE TO TAKE THE BAD GUYS OFF THE STREET.

AND SECOND THING IS THAT WE USE A NORMAL POLICE FUNCTION TO GET PEOPLE ARREST THE BAD GUYS >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CANDIDATES.

TIME NOW FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS.

AND GOING WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THE DEPARTMENT I WORKED FOR AN ACREDITED AGENCY.

NORMALLY WITH A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THERE IS THE MARK.

PAR.

WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO EVERYTHING CORRECT LOW.

THE DEPARTMENT I WORK FOR BEFORE WE SHOWED WE WERE WAY ABOVE THE MARK IN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND OUR ARREST TACTICS AND PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT.

I COME FROM THAT BACKGROUNDS.

MSO BELOW THE LINE THERE ARE THINGS THEY NEED TO COME IN LINE WITH I BRING THE EXPERIENCE AND THE BACKGROUND TO BRING THEM TO THAT LINE AND I SHOW THEM HOW TO EXCEED IT.

>> FRANK, MARICOPA SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS IT WHERE IT SHOULD BE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE?

>> TESTIMONY IS A COMPLICATED QUESTION.

HAVE YOU STAFFING ISSUES AND RETENTION ISSUES AND AN INCREDIBLE SHORTAGE OF CORRECTIONAL OFFICER IN THE JAIL.

BUT THE WOMEN AND MEN THAT ARE OUT IN UNIFORM DOING THE JOB, IF YOU LOOK AT STATS THEY ARE DOING GREAT WORK.

THEY ARE GOING OUT AND WORK DAILY WITH OTHER AGENCIES PROVIDING WORLD CLASS PUBLIC SAFETY, WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO.

REMEMBER, THE ISSUE THIS IS STARTED WITH THE LAWSUIT AND THEN THE TWO LAWSUITS THAT FOLLOWED THE ONE 16 AND 22.

THOSE WERE THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL.

THOSE WERE NOT THAT WAS A LEADERSHIP ISSUE.

I THINK WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS STRIVING FOR AND IN NEED OF IS GOOD LEADERSHIP.

A GOOD TEAM TO ASSIST COURT ORDERS AND SOMEONE TO BUILD MORAL REALLY AROUND AND KNOW THAT THEIR LEADER HAS THEIR BACK >> WHAT DO YOU THINK, JERRY WHERE DOES THE MARICOPA SHERIFF'S OFFICE NEED TO BE?

IF NOT THERE, HOW COME?

>> THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS 1500 EMPLOYEES SHORT.

1100 ARE IN DETENTION.

PATROL IS 50% STAFFING AND CIVILIAN STAFF THE 911 CALLS AND THAT.

AND THE FACT IS I AGREE WITH FRANK A LACK OF LEADERSHIP THE LAST 7 AND A HALF YEARS.

PEOPLE JUST LEFT AND WENT TO OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TAKING CUT IN PAY.

AND I KNOW THAT A COUPLE OF THEM THAT LEFT THEIR RANK ON THE TABLE, TOO.

WHEN THAN I LEFT.

THAT'S HOW DISSATISFIED THEY WERE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION.

>> AND JERRY, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE YOU THINK THE OFFICE QUOTE, BARELY FUNCTION SOMETHING YOU MEAN THAT?

>> IT IS BARELY FUNCTIONING.

I TALK TO PEOPLE AT THE OFFICE ALL DAY I WORKED THERE FOR 40 YEARS PEOPLE TALK TO ME.

THE MAIN REASON IS BECAUSE THE COMPLETE LACK OF STAFFING IN THE JAILS DON'T FORGET THE JAIL IS 75% OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FUNCTION.

80% OF THE BUDGET WHEN THEY ARE LESS THAN HALF STAFFED YOU HAVE TO RUN A CONSTITUTIONAL JAIL.

SO, THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOB.

YOU KNOW, AN AVERAGE 49 PEOPLE A YEAR DIE IN THE SHERIFF'S CUSTODY SINCE I LEFT.

AND COMPARES I WENT BACK TO RECORDS WE HAD ABOUT 7 DEATHS A YEAR WE AVERAGED.

THAT WAS 7 TOO MANY.

IMAGINE 49 THAT IS ALMOST 350 PEOPLE DIE IN THE CUSTODY.

THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG THERE.

>> MIKE, YOU STARTED THIS ALL SAYING THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE.

ARE YOU SAY BEING IN COMPLY WITH THES COURT MONITOR AND AREDS HERE OR NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE OF THOSE MONITORS?

SO WITH THE LAWSUIT I BELIEVE THAT THE LAWSUIT WAS PUT IN PLACE AND NEEDED TO BE A FAILURE IN LEADERSHIP WITH POP3S OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE AGENCY AND LEAD DOWN A BAD PATH.

THE MONITOR STEP IN THE AND ASSISTING IN GETTING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BACK WITH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND ACTING CORRECTLY.

THAT FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP CANNOT CONTINUE WE NEED A SOLID LEAD AND BACKGROUND.

>> WAS THERE A FAILURE IN 2013 WHEN THE JUDGE RULED DEPUTIES WERE VIOLATING THE LAW.

JOY BELIEVE SO, YES.

>> JERRY DO YOU AGREE?

>> I DO.

YES.

>> BECAUSE I SEEM TO REMEMBER I THINK I HAVE THE QUOTE YOU CALLED IT A SHAM WHEN THIS CAME OUT.

>> NO, TED I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY QUOTE.

LUDACRIS AND AND -- I WAS THE CHIEF DEPUTY AT TIME WHEN THIS LAWSUIT START IN THE 2007 I WAS RUNNING THE JAIL SYSTEM.

I DID IN THE GET INVOLVED IN THE LAWSUIT UNTIL SHERIFF SENT MOW TO THE COURTROOM THEIDATE JUDGE ISSUED HIS ORDER AND DECISION IN 2012.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I GOT INVOLVED AND IN FACT THE JUDGE SAID IN COURT THAT WAS THE DAY THEY BEGAN TO COMAM PLY WITH HIS ORDER.

>> THE ORDER YOU STILL BELIEVE IT WAS.

LUDACRIS?

>> NO.

I BELIEVE THE SANCTIONS FOR THE WRONG THAT MCSO DID IS OVER THE TOP.

FRANK ARE SANCTIONS OVER TOP?

IT SEEMS THIS STORY HAS BEEN GOING TO FOR 10 YEARS AND THEY CAN'T GET IT RIGHT?

WHAT IS GOING ON?

THE THERE HAS BEEN TWO FOLLOW UP LAWSUITS SINCE.

AND WILL IT WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER THAT WAS STOPPED AND FELT HE WAS STOP BECAUSE HE WAS HISPANIC REMEMBER WHERE WE WERE IN THE STATE.

THERE WAS A FERVOR AND IMMIGRATION ROUND UPS AND PEOPLE TRYING TO ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAW I WAS AT PHOENIX PD AND WE HAD STRICT POLICY AND HOW WE WOULD RESPOND WHEN HAS HAPPENED I STILL THINK THAT MCSO AND VALLEY LAW ENFORCEMENT RECOVERS AT A LEVEL IS THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR, I DON'T I MEAN PEOPLE OF COLOR ANY COLOR OTHER THAN A WHITE PERSON FELT THEY WOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND THE LAST 10 YEARS WE HAD TO RECOVER FROM THAT REBUILDURE RELATIONSHIPS USING CLERJ AND HE LEADERS FROM THE COMMUNITIES TO GET BACK IN THE HISPANIC AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES AND THEY WOULD KNOW WE WERE THERE TO PROTECT THEM FROM RACE ON RACE CRIME >> COURT RECORDS SHOWING PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE PULLED OVER, DETAINED LONGER PERIODS OF TIME HOW DO YOU SQUARE THAT?

>> IF YOU LOOK WHERE THEY ARE TODAY IS A 4% GAP.

I DON'T THAN FIELD WILL EVER BEY LEVEL.

YOU >> WHEN I RAN ARIZONA DPS WE HAD COME IN RIGHT AFTER THE D. JUSTICE LOOKED AT DPS FOR STOPPING PEOPLE AND KEEPING THEM TOO LONG.

WE PROVIDE DIFFERENT WAYS TO ISSUE CITATIONS CONSENT SAEFSHS WOOS HE NEL ON BODY CAMERA OR A FORM THEY FILLED OUT.

IT IS PROBABLY THE GREATEST.

GIFT I EVER HAVE BEEN GIVEN AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT EXECUTIVE.

IS THIS I HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR MY ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THE ANTIDEFAMATION LEAGUE THE TORCH OF LIBERTY FOR HELPING TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE THAT FELT THEY WERE NOT GETTING WORLD CLASS SERVICE.

>> ARE YOU BUYING WHAT YOU ARE HEARING.

CRITICS SAYING THIS STARTED IN THE DAYS.

HE IS GONE THE RACISM THIS IS WHEN WE HEAR ON OUR SHOW.

UNDER LYING RACISM IS STILL THERE.

YOU AGREE?

I BELIEVE THE PERCEPTION IS THERE.

WORK NOTHING PATROL IN THE VALLEY FOR OVER TWO-THREE DECADES THE PEOPLE TRUST PATROL.

THERE ARE ISSUES IN THE MINORITY COMMUNITY WITH INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED.

BUOY THINK OVER ALL THE PUBLIC HERE IN PHOENIX IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS.

WITH ALL THE CITIES AND INCLUDING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND STATE POLICE THEY HAVE DONE HAY GREAT JOB IN RECOMMUNICATING WITH THE CITIZENS AND THE DIFFERENT UPON MINORITY COMMUNITIES.

>> JERRY YOU MENTIONED THE LACK OF LEADERSHIP YOU GO BACK TO THE DAYS CLOSE WITH THE SHERIFF.

>> I DO.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY YOU THINK REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN THIS RACE THEY WANT A RETURN TO THE DAYS?

>> UPONS I DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE.

THE DEPUTIES HAD 287G AUTHORITY WHEN THEY PULLED OVER A VEHICLE WHERE HE WAS IN THE VEHICLE.

THEY HAD FEDERAL AUTHORITY TO DO THIS.

BUT THE LAWSUIT GETS COMP KATD AFTER THAT.

YOU CAN HAVE A SHOW FOR TWO HOURS ON IT.

NEED TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU.

SO -- THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF WHAT THEY HEAR FROM THE MEDIA I SAW A REPORT WHERE DEPUTIES ARE NOT PULLING OVER AN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.

BUT WHAT IT DID SAY IS THAT THEY WERE DETAINING THEM 13% LONGER ON TRAFFIC STOPS.

I ATTENDS A COURT HEAR WHEN PAUL WAS SHERIFF I STAY INTERESTED IN ALL THIS.

AND THE FACT WAS THE JUDGE WASMENTING THE SHERIFF TO GIVE HIM A REASON ON PAPER WHY THAT 13% OCCURRED.

AND THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

WHEN I BANK ACCOUNT SHERIFF I WILL MAKE SURE I OPEN COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE COURT.

WE CAN QUICKLY RESOLVE THE ISSUES THAT THE MEDIA AND THE PUBLIC HAVE A BAD PERCEPTION OF WHAT THE DEPUTIES DOCHLT >> FRANK, BACK TO THE QUESTION DO YOU THINK REPUBLICAN VOTERSMENT A RETURN TO THE DAY SNS >> NO, I DON'T I THINK THAT THE REPUBLICAN VOTERS REALIZE THAT AT THE TIME WHEN JOE WAS THERE FOR 24 YEARS AND HE WAS HARD ON CRIME AND TRIED TO DISSUADE PEOPLE FROM COMMITTING CRIMES.

IT WENT SIDE WAYS THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE LOST INTCHL NO , I DON'T THINK THEY WANT THAT I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO GO BACK IN 2010 WITH POLICING AS A NATION.

I THINK EVERYONE IS LOOK FOR REFORM.

LOOKING FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO MAKE DECISIONS.

LOOK FOR NONLETHAL FORCES SO THINGS DON'T GO SIDE WAYS.

WE NEED TO USE TIME AS A BENEFIT BECAUSE IT LOOKS BETTER.

NOW WE FILM EVERYTHING THE MEN AND WOMEN DO AND VIOLENCE DOES NOT FILM WELL.

SMART REMARKS DON'T FILM WELL WHAT IS IS COMPASSION.

THAT WOULD UPON MEAN PINK UNCLEDER WEAR AND TENT CITY AND SHERIFF'S POSSE DO YOU THINK THE VOTERS WANT TO STHEE AGAIN >> SHERIFF'S POSSESSES IS AN IMPORTANT PART THAT WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT.

I HAVE PLANS OF EXPANDING THE POSSE.

DRASTICALLY.

MOST DON'T REALIZE THIS 90% OF THE SHERIFF'S POSSE WAS NOT ARMED MOST DOING SEARCH AND RESCUE.

ANIMAL RESCUE AND A YOUTH POSSESS TOW MENTOR CHILDREN TODAY SO THEY CAN ENTER THE WORKFORCE WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT TO EXPECT.

WE ARE TURNING AWAY APPLICANTS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE OF DRUG ISSUES.

ARRESTS.

UPON DIFFERENT MENTAL ISSUES AND THEY ARE SAYING WE DID NOT KNOW.

SO, I WANT TO GET IN THE COMMUNITY.

MENTOR THE YOUNG ADULTS AND SO WHAT THEY DO GO FOR A JOB IF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY MY SON WORK AT HONEY LIMP SAME.

HAVE YOU TO HAVE INTEGRITY AND HE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE A RESPONSIBLE ADULT.

>> JERRY, TENT CITY.

SHERIFF'S POSSE, PINKED WAY TIME FOR A RETURN FOR ALL THOSE.

>> NOT ALL.

A LOT OF THEM.

THE UNDER WEAR THAT WAS JOE'S KEY MARK WE WILL LET HIM KEEP THE PINK UNDER WEAR BUT TENT CITY I RAN THE JAILS FOR 12 YEARS AND TENT CITY PLAYED A KEY FLOW HOW WE MANAGED THE INMATE POPULATION.

IT WAS A GOOD LESSON FOR LOW LEVEL FIRST TIME OFFENDERS.

WE.

KNOW MEMBER WHO SPENT TIME IN TENT CITY AND SAY I WILL NOT DO THIS AGAIN OR DRINK AND DRIVE AGAIN IT ALLOWED YOU TO DO WORK RELEASE AND FURLOUGH, WHICH PEOPLE COULD KEEP THEIR JOBS AND GO TO WORK DURING THE DAY AND COME BACK AND SLEEP AT NIGHT THAT WHAT IT WAS ALL B.

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PART.

MIKE SAID THE POSSE WAS CRITICAL.

WE HAD 1600 POSSE MEMBERS WHEN I LEFT NOW 40 AND THEY DO NOTHING.

>> FRANK, TENT CITY?

SHERIFF'S AND PINK UNDER WEAR.

IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK MIR COPA COUNTY FOLKSMENT >> I DON'T I THINK EVERYBODY SAW THE BENEFIT AT THE TIME JOE USED TO TO DISSUADE PEOPLE.

BUT I WAS WORKING DOWNTOWN WALK BEAT DURING THAT TIME AND WAS A VACANCY TIME ABOVE THE TENTS HE WAS ETCH TRYING TO SAY DOESHTS MAKE BAD DECISIONS HERE.

OR YOU WILL END MUM MY JAIL THERE IS AN EVOLUTION TO JERRY'S POINT, HAS TO BE A TRUSTEE PROGRAM AND A WAY THAT PEOPLE COME AND GO OUT OF JAIL THAT ARE FIRST TIME OSHG FENGDZERS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE UNDER STAFFING IN THE JAIL SPOKEN EARLIER THERE ARE 600 CORRECTION'S OFFICERS SHORT.

THAN I ARE NOT USING THE INMATES 1200 OF THE 6,000 HAVE AN AM BOMB BONDS LESS THAN 1 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UPON WE ARE GIVING 3 SQUARES A DAY, CLOTHING AND HOUSING THEM.

MY CONCERN IS THE JAIL IF YOU ARE 600 OFFICERS SHORT AND 6,000 IN THE SYSTEM EVERYBODY AND I MEAN EVERYBODY ON ANOTHER SIDE IS AT RISK THAT CONCERNS ME >> FRANK YOU WANT TO ESTABLISH A CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?

>> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE CITIZENS LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE DOING.

AM WHEN YOU TRY TO BUILD TRUST YOU NEED TO MAKE SURETY PEOPLE YOU SERVE BELIEVE IN WHEN YOU DOOR.

WHEN I WAS IN PHOENIX PD WE HAD A REVIEW BOARD.

TOOK PEOPLE EDUCATED AND GONE THROUGH THE ACADEMY SXOONLD WHAT POLICING WAS B.

TO LOOK AT WHAT WE D. IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE UNDERSTANDING THAN I GAVES AND THE INPUT.

AND I WILL ACTUALITY MET INTERESTING THING OUT OF THAT REVIEW BOARD THE POLICE OFFICERS WERE MORE CRITICAL OF WHAT OTHER POLICE OFFICERS D. THAN CITIZENS.

I THANK YOU IS A MISNOMER CITIZEN ARE MORE UNDERSTANDING THAN WE BELIEVE ON WHEN OFFICERS MAKE MISTAKES OF THE MIND NOT OF THE HISTORY.

MIKE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK.

>> ARIZONA POE BOARD SITS OVER ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN ARIZONA HAS CIVILIANOS THAT BOARD MY WIFE SERVE ON THAT BOARD.

WE BELIEVE IN HOLDINGFUL OF OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LEADER AMONGST PEERS AND TELLING THEM AND JUST DRIVING INTO EVERYONE I WORK WITH BE A BETTER PERSON TODAY THAN YESTERDAY.

TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSEED AND WE WORK FOR THE PEOPLE THEY ARE YOUR BOSS.

DO WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THE WAY YOU WERE TRAIND AND BE RECEIVE WITH GOOD INTEGRITY, HONEST COMPETENCE SHOW THE CITIZENS WHAT THEY ARE GETTING FOR THEIR TAX DOLLARS.

>> JERRY, MAKE SENSE FOR SENSE?

I SAT ON THE POST BOARD FOR 12 YEARS APPOINTED BY 3 DIFFERENT GOVERN ORS REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT.

I AGREE WITH MIKE WE DO A GREAT JOB IN MREESZING OUR OWN.

SO TO SPEAK.

AND I WOULD BE FOR CITIZEN BOARD AND ADVISORY BOARD.

AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ONE IN PLACE.

AND BUT -- TO REVIEW DISCIPLINE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU SIDES THAT IS WHAT MY MINDS GOES TO.

>> YES.

I DON'T THINK THE CITIZEN ARE TRAINED WELL ENOUGH TO JUDGE WHAT OFFICERS DO.

TYPESET IS LIKE HAVING CIVILIANS ON A MEDICAL REVIEW BOARD YOU NEED TON THE IN'S AND OUT'S AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES AND THE USE OF FORCE AND THE LAW APPLIED WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT REVIEWS THE CASE >> ALL RIGHT.

>> FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

>> QUICKLY >> WITH PHOENIX YOU WATCH IN PHOENIX THE MAYOR PUT TOGETHER A BOARD TO REVIEW CONDUCT OF POLICE OFFICERS.

NOBODY THINKED HAVE ANYBODY THAT WAS A POLICE OFFICER IN THEIR FAMILY.

NOBODY COULD HAVE POLICE EXPERIENCE.

AND TO JERRY'S POINTS IF YOU HAVE A BOARD LIKE THAT NOBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS THEY DOM YOU WOULD NOPUT DOCTOR IN CHARGEAVE PLUMBING BOARD WHY WOULD YOU NOBODY WHO KNOWS ABOUT POLICING AND REVIEWING POLICE WORK >> WE GOTTA STOP IT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TIME FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS.

WE BEGIN WITH MIKE CRAWFORD.

>> CITIZENS OF MARICOPA COUNTY I HAVE THE MILITARY LEADERSHIP AND BACKGROUNDS SERVED OVER SEAS BRING A BROAD EXPERIENCE.

WORKED ON RESERVATIONS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN I WAS THE DEA AND FOUGHT THE CARTEL MY MILITARY END WHEN I WAS STRUCK BY LIGHTNING THAT FORGE MEAD IT ARE HARDER.

I WENT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SERVES 28 YEARS.

A VAST EXPERIENCE AS A SHERIFF, DESHGS, A AGENT AND CITY POLICE OFFICER.

I'M RESPECTED MOOMG PLY PEERS AS A LEAD AND STRIVED TO BE THAT FOR THEM.

I HAVE TAUGHT AND ALWAYS A LEAD AND AN EXAMPLE.

OF HONESTY AND INTEGRITY.

I'M NOT IN THE LAWSUIT, AND I DON'T HAVE ISSUE IN MY BACKGROUND.

THAT WITH LEADERSHIP OR ISSUES LIKE THAT I AM THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR THIS JOB.

VOTE FOR MIKE CRAWFORD FOR SHERIFF >> THE CLOSING STATEMENT FROM FRANK >> THANK YOU, TED.

I'M ONE IN THE GROUP THAT IS LEAD TWO MAJOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS I LEAD MESA PD AND THEIR POLICE ASSOCIATION SPMENTS ME FOR MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF I LEAD PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE TROOPER ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS ME.

I RUN A MUNICIPAL JAIL I RAN THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTY I HAVE JAIL RESPONSIBLES.

ONLY PERSON BEEN TO WASHINGTON AND SAT AT A CABINET TABLE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP TO WORK ON IMMIGRATION AND SAT IN THE ROSE DPARD GAEN WITH TRUMP WITH IMMIGRATION I NEGOTIATEDD AND BEEN INVOLVED IN POLICING AND GOVERNMENT AND POLICY AND DECISION AT NUMEROUS LEVELS.

THIS ISSUE WITH THE COURT ORDER, THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

SOMEBODY NEEDS A STRONG TEAM TO WORK WITH THE COUNT TOW WORK WITH THE FEDERAL JUDGE IN THE MONITOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WILL BE RESOLVED AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS GETS TO GO BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR TECH NOT, PAY AND EQUIPMENT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU AND NOW THE CLOSING STATEMENT FROM JERRY SHERIDAN.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN, TED FOR DOING THIS TODAY.

THE MARICOPA SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT NEEDS TO BE RUN BY A CAREER DEPUTY SHERIFF.

I APPRECIATE THE EXPERIENCE OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE IN MOST -- OF THE TIME HAS BEEN IN MUNICIPAL AGENCY AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

THE NUMBER ONE THING THE JAIL SYSTEM.

75% OF THIS ORGANIZATION ARE AND WHEN I WAS ASKED BY THE SHERIFF TO OVER SEE A 1 BILLION DOLLARS JAIL TAX THAT WAS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN OF FOURTH AREA JAIL.

THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AND WHEN WE BUILT THE KITCHEN WE BUILT A SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD.

NONE OF THE 5 OTHER THEN AND THERE ME VYGOTSKY FOR THE OPEN SEAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AS A SHERIFF AND AS A PERSON THAT HAS RUN THE JAIL SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES SO MUCH SECURITY FOR ALL THE CITIZENS FOUSH.SICK MILLION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING TONIGHT'S DEBATE.

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>> THAT'S IT FOR NOW I'M TED SIMONS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING