
Bellwether: The Political Evolution of Erie - Our Power
Season 1 Episode 20 | 28m 32sVideo has Closed Captions
Explore how the politics of Erie changed over the decades during Chronicles on WQLN.
Erie is often cited as a litmus test for the political outcomes of the nation. How did Erie earn this reputation and how have the politics of Erie changed over the decades? Chronicles is an immersive docuseries exploring the history of the Lake Erie region. Watch and learn as local history comes to life with engaging storytelling and powerful videography during Chronicles on WQLN PBS.
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Bellwether: The Political Evolution of Erie - Our Power
Season 1 Episode 20 | 28m 32sVideo has Closed Captions
Erie is often cited as a litmus test for the political outcomes of the nation. How did Erie earn this reputation and how have the politics of Erie changed over the decades? Chronicles is an immersive docuseries exploring the history of the Lake Erie region. Watch and learn as local history comes to life with engaging storytelling and powerful videography during Chronicles on WQLN PBS.
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You</b> <b>Americans actually still seem to think</b> <b>that you're exceptional.</b> <b>You are not exceptional.</b> <b>American exceptionalism, this is such a</b> <b>term that is so</b> <b>misunderstood by the left and the right.</b> <b>The right believes American</b> <b>exceptionalism means America is the</b> <b>greatest thing that's ever existed.</b> <b>The left increasingly believes America is</b> <b>the worst thing that's</b> <b>ever befallen humanity.</b> <b>What American exceptionalism means is</b> <b>America deviates from the</b> <b>norms of Western Europe.</b> <b>America is, for better and for worse, the</b> <b>red-headed stepchild</b> <b>of the Western world.</b> <b>We lead the West in economic innovation</b> <b>and in infant mortality.</b> <b>American exceptionalism is a double-edged</b> <b>sword and it is both</b> <b>good and it is both bad.</b> <b>And it is a reality that helps us</b> <b>understand this strange bottom-up,</b> <b>rambunctious democracy where politics is</b> <b>a form of mass</b> <b>entertainment, for better and for worse.</b> <b>As a foreigner in these lands, I'm struck</b> <b>by how prominent and divisive political</b> <b>identity is in American daily life.</b> <b>This doesn't feel very united.</b> <b>How have we become so fractured?</b> <b>Well, we call it the rural-urban divide.</b> <b>And it's not to say that the 21st century</b> <b>is the first iteration</b> <b>of the rural-urban divide.</b> <b>But we're seeing it today in the 2020s</b> <b>and especially at a peak.</b> <b>You know, America in the 19th century was</b> <b>an overwhelmingly rural and</b> <b>overwhelmingly Protestant America.</b> <b>In the late 19th century, you have an</b> <b>America that's becoming urban and</b> <b>immigrant and</b> <b>particularly Catholic and Jews.</b> <b>And so in the late 19th century, we see</b> <b>the urban-rural divide that we see today.</b> <b>We see kind of the first iteration of</b> <b>this political, because</b> <b>it's a cultural clash.</b> <b>Whereas 100 years ago, rural Protestants</b> <b>very much thought of themselves at the</b> <b>center of American culture,</b> <b>the center of American politics.</b> <b>Thomas Jefferson, who was his kind of</b> <b>ideal American?
I mean,</b> <b>it was the yeoman farmer.</b> <b>By the early 20th century, you have an</b> <b>urban, immigrant America that has</b> <b>displaced this Protestant, rural America</b> <b>with a Catholic and Jewish urban America</b> <b>that is at the center of American life</b> <b>and is so much more prosperous.</b> <b>Right?
So it's a cultural and political</b> <b>clash that we've been seeing developing</b> <b>over the last century as rural Americans</b> <b>feel a very real sense of being marginalized</b> <b>and left behind.</b> <b>Extremism isn't new.</b> <b>We've seen far worse before.</b> <b>So as everybody knows,</b> <b>World War II was bad.</b> <b>Stalinism in the Soviet Union, 20 million</b> <b>Soviet citizens murdered.</b> <b>The Holocaust, 12 million Europeans, 6</b> <b>million Jews murdered.</b> <b>World War II was a</b> <b>cataclysm across the globe.</b> <b>The barbarities and the travesties of the</b> <b>Holocaust, Stalinism, and the Second World</b> <b>War were so bad that you had to change</b> <b>the political dynamics to</b> <b>forestall World War III.</b> <b>And there was an agreement.</b> <b>But this was an agreement by political</b> <b>elites and intellectuals on both sides of</b> <b>the Atlantic, on the center</b> <b>left and the center right.</b> <b>And essentially this, hey, center right,</b> <b>the fascists?
No longer</b> <b>in your political party.</b> <b>You chop it off at the end.
They're not</b> <b>allowed into mainstream Republican, or</b> <b>what we call Christian Democratic parties</b> <b>or the conservative</b> <b>parties, of Western Europe.</b> <b>Hey, center left, the</b> <b>communists?
They're out.</b> <b>OK, well, the vital center is that the</b> <b>center right and the center left are</b> <b>going to reach a broad agreement, some</b> <b>broad agreement on</b> <b>things like social welfare.</b> <b>And, you know, JFK, by all accounts, who</b> <b>was at the time thought of as so liberal</b> <b>by today's standards, maybe center right</b> <b>or nearly center, but definitely not the</b> <b>far liberal brand that</b> <b>he was being told of.</b> <b>Because when they started getting rid of,</b> <b>you know, moving away from the center,</b> <b>both on the right and</b> <b>left, it was so marginal.</b> <b>And now today, I think the pendulum has</b> <b>swung so far between the two and there's</b> <b>a bigger gap between the center.</b> <b>And we've forgotten all the hard won</b> <b>lessons of World War II.</b> <b>And that, you know,</b> <b>where's the vital center gone?</b> <b>It left with that generation as they</b> <b>passed from the scenes.</b> <b>The political extremes on the left and</b> <b>right have moved back into the center.</b> <b>And, you know, we're re-fighting the old</b> <b>fights of the prewar era.</b> <b>So what does this have to do with Erie?</b> <b>Well, this region is much more important</b> <b>politically than most people realize.</b> <b>I mean, I do believe Erie County is that</b> <b>microcosm of Pennsylvania and the</b> <b>microcosm of the country.</b> <b>And that's why back in the day, they used</b> <b>to do a lot of testing</b> <b>of market research here,</b> <b>because we are one of those communities</b> <b>that has just a really great mix of what</b> <b>the country kind of looks like.</b> <b>Politically, you know, we're in that</b> <b>we're part of what might be called the</b> <b>Rust Belt with the Midwest.</b> <b>And these are areas of the country that</b> <b>seem to be closest now</b> <b>in presidential elections.</b> <b>And that's why we get a lot of attention</b> <b>from in national politics.</b> <b>When you talk to people in other states</b> <b>and they say, ÑWell, no one ever comes to</b> <b>my state or my community</b> <b>who's running on a higher level.Ñ</b> <b>And here, they always come.</b> <b>Thank you, Erie.</b> <b>It's good to be back in Erie.</b> <b>I want you to be there for Barack Obama</b> <b>and Joe Biden, but be</b> <b>there for Kathy Dahlkemper, too.</b> <b>Dr.
Oz says stopping in Erie</b> <b>is crucial for his campaign.</b> <b>I'd like to shake your hand.
How are you?</b> <b>I'm asking for your vote.</b> <b>Right here in Erie.</b> <b>Hello, Erie.</b> <b>May I please have your vote.</b> <b>Because the folks that are set on the</b> <b>state level, the federal level, they</b> <b>realize that Pennsylvania is</b> <b>an important keystone state.</b> <b>And it's really a key</b> <b>to how the country votes.</b> <b>But I think the one thing that we all</b> <b>need to keep in mind is that while</b> <b>Philadelphia and Pittsburgh may help</b> <b>balance out the many red counties across</b> <b>the Commonwealth, folks cannot win</b> <b>statewide without Erie, Pennsylvania.</b> <b>And I think it's important that we</b> <b>realize we do have a significant role to</b> <b>play in determining</b> <b>who wins these elections.</b> <b>If they win in Erie,</b> <b>they're winning nationally.</b> <b>Clinton won, right, Erie.</b> <b>Clinton won nationally.</b> <b>Jimmy Carter won Erie.</b> <b>Carter won nationally.</b> <b>Ronald Reagan won Erie.</b> <b>Reagan won nationally.</b> <b>Same with Obama.</b> <b>So this has become a bellwether region.</b> <b>Presidential campaigns historically in</b> <b>Erie County have been very close.</b> <b>The Kennedy election was within a</b> <b>thousand votes, and Republicans were</b> <b>winning, sometimes Democrats.</b> <b>But the Trump campaign, we went to</b> <b>winning Erie by 20,000 votes for a</b> <b>president, to losing Erie to Trump.</b> <b>So those weren't</b> <b>Republicans that did that.</b> <b>Those are Democratic</b> <b>voters that voted for Trump.</b> <b>It's supposed to be a Trump thing.</b> <b>A lot of Democrats, but the Democrats</b> <b>that love Trump because I love them.</b> <b>And you know what?</b> <b>You're workers.</b> <b>You're like, we work, we work, we work.</b> <b>I was a Democrat who voted for Trump</b> <b>because I just felt that my philosophy</b> <b>was changing a little bit</b> <b>and a little more conservative.</b> <b>And that's one of the great failings of</b> <b>the Democratic Party, that we forgot how</b> <b>to talk, to communicate with</b> <b>working class white voters.</b> <b>White, working class voters after 19th, it</b> <b>used to be the core of</b> <b>the Democratic Party.</b> <b>They are increasingly, if not</b> <b>Republicans, they become the swing voters</b> <b>who are deciding national elections.</b> <b>There's egg on the face on both sides.</b> <b>My experience as a Democrat Party has</b> <b>allowed the progressive wing of the party</b> <b>to identify themselves.</b> <b>They've not done a good job of</b> <b>communicating that, hey, no, we're still</b> <b>a working man party, hey,</b> <b>we still want these things.</b> <b>And while they do that, it's while</b> <b>they're seeing people leave the Democrat</b> <b>Party much more faster than the</b> <b>Republican or independent.</b> <b>And not all those Democrats are coming to</b> <b>join the Republican because</b> <b>now shame on the Republicans.</b> <b>They're, I believe, have a communication</b> <b>issue as well, failing to</b> <b>provide a value proposition.</b> <b>A lot of them are saying, hmm, I don't</b> <b>maybe quite buy what you're peddling.</b> <b>I'm going to just sit here in the</b> <b>independents and never vote in a primary,</b> <b>at least in Pennsylvania.</b> <b>And then you start bringing it down to</b> <b>Erie County, you know, is really a player</b> <b>in how that kind of reflects how the rest</b> <b>of the country is thinking.</b> <b>The bellwether-ness of it all is we have</b> <b>to push into that we have to push into it</b> <b>and embrace what we</b> <b>have here in Erie County.</b> <b>And that's a lot of power.
And we don't</b> <b>under we don't understand that.</b> <b>And it breaks my heart on so many levels</b> <b>because people deserve to</b> <b>know that their voice matters.</b> <b>They deserve to know that</b> <b>they can use their voice.
Right.</b> <b>And it's not just in May or November, but</b> <b>all the time.
And</b> <b>they should be using it.</b> <b>Yeah, this is this is one of the one of</b> <b>the many conversations that get</b> <b>overlooked within our county.</b> <b>But at a national level,</b> <b>it's talked about all the time.</b> <b>But it's the opportunities for being on</b> <b>that radar to have that attention to get</b> <b>the president or the vice president or</b> <b>any of the secretaries to visit to make</b> <b>investments in our community.</b> <b>You know, it's that attention that Erie</b> <b>County has that now we're sitting at a</b> <b>county executive roundtable with Buffalo</b> <b>and Los Angeles and Seattle.</b> <b>Erie County, Pennsylvania.
Why?</b> <b>Because they</b> <b>recognize it's a swing county.</b> <b>I do believe that national government is</b> <b>very slow to move, although you wouldn't</b> <b>always think that as you're watching the</b> <b>national politics.
But not a lot of</b> <b>legislation actually gets passed in each</b> <b>Congress, you know, two year</b> <b>congressional time period.</b> <b>When you look at significant legislation</b> <b>that's going to change your daily life.</b> <b>And so for the American government to</b> <b>address the big, huge issues that concern</b> <b>everyday Americans, it really takes</b> <b>decades, if not a</b> <b>generation, you know, gun control.</b> <b>A vast majority of Americans want some sort</b> <b>of gun control.
Nothing has happened</b> <b>since the mid 90s.
And Americans look at</b> <b>that and they think,</b> <b>what is Congress doing?</b> <b>That's the American political system as</b> <b>it was designed to work.</b> <b>So how does the political</b> <b>process work at the local level?</b> <b>Whether it be the mayor or the county</b> <b>executive, they set the direction.</b> <b>They set the agenda.
They, they are able</b> <b>to get out there in front of the media</b> <b>and say, hey, look, we want to, let's</b> <b>say, bring in industry in Erie County.</b> <b>And sure, you might be upset because</b> <b>we're giving them a tax break.</b> <b>But after a period of time, they're going</b> <b>to be a lot more people working there.</b> <b>Those people contribute to the baseline</b> <b>of our financial resources.</b> <b>That's what they do.
Obviously, the</b> <b>county council or the city council, then</b> <b>those individuals who represent really</b> <b>the individual areas of the community.</b> <b>Now they can actually create the job or</b> <b>create the laws or the policies and put</b> <b>them into law to allow that to happen.</b> <b>Yeah, the mayor's clear responsibilities</b> <b>are obviously we have a police</b> <b>department, a fire department.</b> <b>So keeping people safe.</b> <b>And that's a huge challenge.</b> <b>But also we have a public works</b> <b>department that does things</b> <b>all year long in the winter.</b> <b>They're plowing the streets in the</b> <b>summer.
They're cutting</b> <b>grass repaving the streets.</b> <b>We do have a lot of needs and we have to</b> <b>make decisions on where funds go when</b> <b>most of the funds already spoken for.</b> <b>It's kind of hard to address the things</b> <b>that the community</b> <b>want and desperately need.</b> <b>And Erie cannot progress as a city unless</b> <b>it has a beating heart.
I always said</b> <b>that Erie is the heart</b> <b>of Northwest Pennsylvania.</b> <b>And we've seen an erosion of that.
But</b> <b>you can't have a heart that beats if it's</b> <b>a cardiac arrest all over the place.</b> <b>If the center of the city, which is not</b> <b>downtown, it's the people that live in</b> <b>these neighborhoods.</b> <b>And it's not Frontier.
It's not Glenwood.</b> <b>It's not above 38th Street.</b> <b>It's in the heart of the city where</b> <b>people live and people suffer and people</b> <b>have tragedies and people raise children</b> <b>in which they're</b> <b>living in desperate straits.</b> <b>And anybody that thinks that this town is</b> <b>cosmetically looking well because you're</b> <b>seeing cranes and things like that, the</b> <b>soul of the city needs help.</b> <b>So in this city, in Erie City, we are</b> <b>primarily a blue, meaning a Democratic</b> <b>base, but we are increasing in our</b> <b>independent numbers.</b> <b>And in the county, we see more of a</b> <b>higher red or Republican registration.</b> <b>But I wouldn't say that it's one way</b> <b>leaning the other because in fact we're</b> <b>seeing the independent registration</b> <b>increase quite</b> <b>dramatically over the past decade.</b> <b>There are some in this community that</b> <b>would like to pit the politics of Erie</b> <b>County very much as</b> <b>an urban rural divide.</b> <b>Well, the city belongs to the Democrats</b> <b>and the Republicans have a</b> <b>lot of control in the county.</b> <b>But I think when we get past those</b> <b>divides, the same way when we look past</b> <b>racial divides and other things, what we</b> <b>find is that there is a commonality</b> <b>amongst the voters here in Erie County.</b> <b>If you have folks that are worried about</b> <b>poverty as an issue, those folks aren't</b> <b>looking at poverty necessarily as a</b> <b>racial topic, and they're not looking at</b> <b>it as an urban topic or a rural topic.</b> <b>I mean, you show me a</b> <b>person that's unhoused.</b> <b>If you go up to that individual and you</b> <b>say, "Hey, are you a Democrat or you're a</b> <b>Republican," does it change the problem?</b> <b>If you come with resources, was it a</b> <b>Republican policy or Democrat?
I mean,</b> <b>I've not seen a single policy that comes</b> <b>out of county council that says a</b> <b>Democratic or Republican policy like it</b> <b>does in the state or federal house.</b> <b>It doesn't exist here, and it shouldn't.</b> <b>If our local governance is free from</b> <b>party politics, then why are there so</b> <b>many R's and D's on our ballots?</b> <b>But in a state like Pennsylvania, which</b> <b>is now relatively evenly</b> <b>divided, that stuff matters.</b> <b>I mean, a flip of a few thousand votes</b> <b>turns Erie County red or blue.</b> <b>And so the performance of local office</b> <b>holders influencing the assessment that</b> <b>people have of their</b> <b>particular political party.</b> <b>If Democrats are incompetent in running</b> <b>cities, you better believe that</b> <b>Democratic voters in cities are going to</b> <b>be looking to Republicans.</b> <b>And I think that although we're talking</b> <b>local politics, national politics, the</b> <b>national scene has gotten to a place to</b> <b>where it's not you deserve anymore.</b> <b>It's they don't deserve.</b> <b>That's too much.
They don't deserve.</b> <b>These issues are not just rural.
They're</b> <b>not just urban or suburban, but they are</b> <b>all of our issues because the people in</b> <b>the rural areas come in and use the city.</b> <b>But if our communities are not good on</b> <b>the outside, our urban core</b> <b>is not going to be good either.</b> <b>It's a symbion relation between the city</b> <b>and the county.
You know, it's not us and</b> <b>them, it's we.
So we have</b> <b>to work together as a team.</b> <b>And there's a lot of work that goes into</b> <b>that.
And I'm fortunate that I've got</b> <b>common sense county council</b> <b>members that are partners.</b> <b>And they set the politics aside.
They set</b> <b>the Democrat aside.
They</b> <b>set the Republican aside.</b> <b>In terms of politics overall, I think</b> <b>that regardless of what your identity or</b> <b>what you identify with, most people</b> <b>generally want the same things I find.</b> <b>They want a better lifestyle for their</b> <b>children.
They want their children to</b> <b>have better life than them.
They want</b> <b>them to be able to have a quality,</b> <b>affordable education.</b> <b>They want them to be able to afford</b> <b>health care.
They want</b> <b>them to go to good schools.</b> <b>And I don't care.
I haven't met anyone</b> <b>yet of colleagues or people that I've</b> <b>worked with peers on either side of the</b> <b>table who didn't want those things.</b> <b>And never one time do we sit down and</b> <b>talk about politics from</b> <b>a political perspective.</b> <b>I don't care whether my colleagues are</b> <b>Democrat or Republican or something in</b> <b>between.
We don't talk about it.</b> <b>What we talk about is</b> <b>issues that affect the counties.</b> <b>The thing I'm most proud of everybody on</b> <b>county council is when we come together</b> <b>on a resolution, an</b> <b>ordinance, we can get a 7-0 vote.</b> <b>I mean, that's exactly what we want.
We</b> <b>want everybody to agree.
We</b> <b>might grumble during our caucus.</b> <b>We might go, "I'm going to support this,</b> <b>but I'm not going to support 100 percent,</b> <b>but I'm going to vote yes.
"</b> <b>That's the goal of what we want.
We want</b> <b>a 7-0.
We're here for the</b> <b>people, not for the party.</b> <b>These are kids.
These are elderly people.</b> <b>They're unhoused people.
You know,</b> <b>there's people with all sorts of issues.</b> <b>Like, it's not politics.
And that's the</b> <b>beautiful thing about county government.</b> <b>Setting the bipartisan politics aside for</b> <b>a moment, let's explore what these</b> <b>elected officials do for our community.</b> <b>So the office of the county executive, I</b> <b>mean, this is probably the most complex</b> <b>office in our region.</b> <b>So the duties of the county executive</b> <b>vary.
I mean, number one, you're</b> <b>ultimately responsible</b> <b>for the county's budget.</b> <b>We administer a $580</b> <b>million-plus budget annually.</b> <b>You know, you handle any wide array of</b> <b>human services from Department of Human</b> <b>Services, Office of Children and Youth.</b> <b>It's the 9-1-1 Center.
It's public</b> <b>safety.
It's the library.</b> <b>The health department, the prison.</b> <b>It's adult and juvenile</b> <b>probation.
It's every now and then.</b> <b>You know, but then you have, you know,</b> <b>the other political</b> <b>issues, societal issues.</b> <b>You have broadband infrastructure.
You</b> <b>have economic development.</b> <b>I mean, it's such a broad job that I</b> <b>think even somebody that went and got a</b> <b>master's in economic development</b> <b>and studied this office for well over six</b> <b>years, you think that, you know, until</b> <b>you're sitting here in this very chair,</b> <b>and then you learn that</b> <b>you know that you don't know.</b> <b>So again, why is there so much noise over</b> <b>Republican this and Democrat that?</b> <b>You know, you can take a chef out of a</b> <b>kitchen or replace</b> <b>him with somebody else,</b> <b>and they're going to do</b> <b>things completely differently.</b> <b>And the flavor and the food and the</b> <b>approach and the</b> <b>process is going to change.</b> <b>You know, so that doesn't make the job of</b> <b>any previous or future executive wrong.</b> <b>It just makes it different.</b> <b>You know, you view the world through a</b> <b>different lens.
You have different</b> <b>priorities, different times and places.</b> <b>And I think that's what's unique about</b> <b>this office is how broad it is and also</b> <b>how clearly undefined the</b> <b>role for this office actually is.</b> <b>And I think that's part of, I think the</b> <b>downfall and the genius of that clearly</b> <b>undefined definition of what your duties</b> <b>and responsibilities really are.</b> <b>It's endless.</b> <b>Where I guess I will push back is that</b> <b>legally there have been violations and</b> <b>abuse of power that were absolutely</b> <b>outlined in the charter.</b> <b>People have no idea how their money is</b> <b>spent and how governments work.</b> <b>I mean, for the most part, the civics</b> <b>understanding in this community, and I</b> <b>would say this country at</b> <b>large, is very, very poor.</b> <b>And voting when you're living paycheck to</b> <b>paycheck is a second thought.</b> <b>You know, we just had</b> <b>record low voting turnout.</b> <b>And that's kind of sad because there was</b> <b>no high ticket items that were happening</b> <b>in the governorship or in</b> <b>the Senate or in Congress.</b> <b>So people literally sat out the most</b> <b>important election to you in your</b> <b>community, in your day to day life.</b> <b>The majority probably don't have a clear, clear understanding.</b> <b>There's certainly a smaller group that</b> <b>understands very well, and there's</b> <b>another group that</b> <b>maybe understand nothing.</b> <b>And then there's the groups, the large</b> <b>group in the middle that understand some,</b> <b>but not necessarily everything.</b> <b>And I try to explain things to people and</b> <b>they bring things to me and question.</b> <b>A lot of times I get questions about</b> <b>things the city has nothing to do with.</b> <b>And I'll try to get them to the county or</b> <b>the state or whoever is appropriate to</b> <b>talk to about it if they</b> <b>want to try to impact that.</b> <b>And people who you think have some level</b> <b>of conscientiousness, when I first got</b> <b>there, they couldn't differentiate.</b> <b>In fact, many people still say, oh,</b> <b>you're on city council.</b> <b>They don't necessarily understand or</b> <b>grasp that Erie City of Erie</b> <b>proper is a part of the county.</b> <b>It's one of the multiple municipalities</b> <b>that make up the county.</b> <b>And so they don't understand that the</b> <b>city does streets, parks, public safety,</b> <b>fire, you know, and zoning.</b> <b>So many times the constituent comes to me</b> <b>with those issues, which I still have,</b> <b>which is probably why I'm probably the</b> <b>most accessible elected in the region.</b> <b>If I don't have an answer, it's not</b> <b>uncommon for me to take someone by the</b> <b>hand and walk them through it or at least</b> <b>give them some guidance.</b> <b>But I spend a lot of the days educating</b> <b>people on exactly what</b> <b>the county council does.</b> <b>So people really don't</b> <b>truly get what we do.</b> <b>I mean, if you just go to their website</b> <b>and just look at all the different</b> <b>departments that we have,</b> <b>and then we have the courts to deal with,</b> <b>we have the sheriff's department to deal</b> <b>with, you know, it's a huge machine and,</b> <b>you know, it's people based.</b> <b>And that's what we have to</b> <b>do is take care of the people.</b> <b>There's one thing to say,</b> <b>we do budget, we do policy.</b> <b>But once I start telling them what all</b> <b>and how it affects them, that every real</b> <b>estate transaction in the city, it comes</b> <b>through the county,</b> <b>through our prothonotary.</b> <b>And I start explaining to them when they</b> <b>go, oh, that's your local government.</b> <b>And, you know, it is what it is, but</b> <b>education is important.</b> <b>Knowledge is power.</b> <b>And a lot of people who are working day</b> <b>to day don't realize that this is where</b> <b>the change happens on the local level.</b> <b>So when it comes to a city and a county</b> <b>level, you can do a lot of things that</b> <b>are going to truly affect, and hopefully</b> <b>a positive way, our</b> <b>community and people's lives.</b> <b>And yet I always say to people when it</b> <b>comes to voting, too many people just</b> <b>vote on the presidential years.</b> <b>They only wait until that big election</b> <b>year and they don't bother paying</b> <b>attention and voting for county council,</b> <b>city council, you know, the county</b> <b>executive, the mayor, township</b> <b>supervisors, all of those really</b> <b>important pieces of</b> <b>our government structure.</b> <b>And sometimes people will vote along</b> <b>party lines, regardless</b> <b>of who the candidate is.</b> <b>I had a candidate say to me just a couple</b> <b>weeks ago that he believed it was a seven</b> <b>to one ratio of Republicans want to ask</b> <b>what party at Republican good enough for</b> <b>me, where the Democrats were less likely</b> <b>to ask the party thing</b> <b>and actually do a follow up.</b> <b>Whether that's a fair assessment or not,</b> <b>that's my experience.</b> <b>So it seems to be more important to</b> <b>Republicans that it's kind of this you're</b> <b>either with me or not with me.</b> <b>I am a Republican and I disagree with</b> <b>that mindset.
And I think it's incumbent</b> <b>on people like myself and what I like to</b> <b>call free thinking individuals to push on</b> <b>our circles of influence.</b> <b>And when you hear that, that this person</b> <b>is, you know, they're of a</b> <b>different party affiliation.</b> <b>So there's all these negative things,</b> <b>these evil things or whatever that I</b> <b>don't identify with or dislike.
Well, the</b> <b>reality is that's probably not true.</b> <b>Chronicles was made possible thanks to a</b> <b>community assets grant provided by the</b> <b>Erie County Gaming Revenue Authority,</b> <b>Springhill Senior Living, support by the</b> <b>Department of Education and the generous</b> <b>support of Thomas B. Hagan.</b> <b>We question and learn.</b>
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