>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A LOOK AT BIDENOMICS, WHAT IT MEANS AND HOW IT'S IMPACTING THE ECONOMY.

>>> A LOCAL HOUSING FUND TO PROVIDE HOMES TO ARIZONA'S MOST VULNERABLE FAMILIES AND A PROGRAM AT ASU THAT OFFERS EDUCATIONAL AND CULTURAL COURSES TO ADULTS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> Ted: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

AT LEAST SIX PEOPLE ARE DEAD AND SEARCH AND RESCUE MERCKS CONTINUE AS CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES ARE DESIGNATING MAUI AND THERE IS CONSIDERABLE DAMAGE REPORTED INCLUDING HISTORIC FRONT STREET IN LAHINA.

SCREWS ARE JUMPING TO ESCAPE THE FLAMES.

AT LEAST SIX FATALITIES AND THE HOSPITALS ARE FILLING UP.

>> OUR HOSPITAL SYSTEM ON MAUI, THEY'RE OVERBURDENED WITH BURN PATIENTS AND PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM INHALATION AND WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH OTHER HOSPITALS TO RELIEVE.

THE REALITY IS THAT WE NEED TO FLY PEOPLE OUT OF HOW MAUI TO GIVE THEM BURN SUPPORT BECAUSE MAUI HOSPITAL CANNOT DO EXTENSIVE BURN TREATMENT.

BECAUSE WE'RE AN ISLAND AND IN ADDITION TO DEALING WITH DISASTER, WE'RE DEALING WITH MAJOR TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, AS WELL.

>> Ted: THE STRONG WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO EASE THIS EVENING, BUT THE NATIONAL INTERAGENCY FIRE NETWORK SENSES A FORECAST THAT HAWAII WILL BE AT ABOVE RISK FOR WILDFIRES FROM NOW THROUGH NOVEMBER.

>>> ARIZONA ABORTION RIGHT'S GROUPS LAUNCHED A DRIVE TO PUT A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO ENSURE THE RIGHT TO ABORTION ON NEXT YEAR'S BALLOT.

THE AMENDMENT WOULD GUARANTEE THE RIGHT TO ABORTION BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER FETAL VIABILITY IF A DOCTOR DEEMS IT NEGLIGENCE TO PROTECT THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

THIS FOLLOWS YESTERDAY'S VOTE IN OHIO THAT REJECTED REPUBLICAN EFFORTS TO MAKE IT HARDER TO CHANGE THAT STATE'S CONSTITUTION.

>>> THE ARIZONA COYOTES ATTEMPTING TO PURCHASE A SITE FOR A NEW ARENA AND THIS IS THE LATEST TO FIND A NEW HOME AFTER LEAVING GLENDALE AND ONE REJECTED BY TEMPE.

THEY PLAY AT MULLET, CURRENT TO THE HOME'S MEN'S HOCKEY TEAM.

>>> PRESIDENT BIDEN'S PLANS TO GROW THE ECONOMY HAVE BEEN DUBBED BIDENOMICS AND TO GROW THE MIDDLE OUT AND BOTTOM OUT AND NOT THE TOP DOWN.

WHAT DOES ALL OF THAT MEAN AND IS IT WORKING?

WE ASK DENNIS HOFFMAN AT W-P CAREY OF SCHOOL AND ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

>> GOOD TO BE HERE.

>> Ted: DEFINE BIDENOMICS.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

>> THE OPPOSITE OF TRICKLE-DOWN AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW GIVE TAX CUTS AND BREAKS TO THE WELL-TO-DO AND PEOPLE WILL BE HIRED.

IT'S NOT SUPPLY SIDE, IT'S MORE DEMAND SIDE INDUCED.

IT'S TARGETING MIDDLE-CLASS, LOWER SKILLED WORKERS AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES AND THEY CERTAINLY HAVE.

IN TERMS OF BUILDING THE CAPACITY OF THE ECONOMY, THE FOCUS IS, OF COURSE, ON INFRASTRUCTURE, THE BUILD-BACK-BETTER CONCEPT WHERE WE USE FISCAL POLICY OR THE ADMINISTRATION, RATHER USES FISCAL POLICY TO ENCOURAGE CAPITAL INVESTMENT AS OPPOSED TO CUT TAXES AND LET THE MARKET WORK.

>> Ted: IT SOUNDS LIKE GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND SOUNDS AS IF THE BIDENOMICS IS GO BIG, GO FAST, NO WAITING AROUND.

TRUE?

>> IT IS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT THAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED BY THIS PARTICULAR ADMINISTRATION AND THE CONGRESS IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS IN TERMS OF GETTING THAT KICK-STARTED.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PULL BACK FROM GLOBALIZATION AND WE CLEARLY HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE MORE DOMESTICALLY AND IN ORDER TO MAKE MORE DOMESTICALLY, BUSINESSES -- IF WE PUT CAPITAL IN PLACE IN THE COUNTRY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HELP FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

>> Ted: LET'S LOOK AT A COUPLE OF FACTORS HERE, RUBRICS AND EMPLOYMENT, LOOKS LIKE CONTINUED SOLID JOB GROWTH AND IS THAT A RESULT OF BIDENOMICS?

>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO SAY YES.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT TRENDS IN EMPLOYMENT, SAY, FOR THE TEN YEARS LEADING INTO COVID -- EVERYBODY KNOWS COVID.

WE LOST ALL OF THE JOBS WE COULD IN THOSE TEN YEARS IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS DURING COVID.

ONCE WE OPENED, IT WOULD COME BACK.

SO THE REAL QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT CAME BACK, ONCE WE GOT BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE COVID, THEN WHAT?

AND THAT WAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A YEAR INTO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S TERM AND I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT 18 MONTHS SINCE THEN AND THE TREND RATE OF GROWTH OF EMPLOYMENT, TED, IS FASTER THAN IT WAS THE PRIOR TEN YEARS.

FASTER, CERTAINLY, THAN IN Mr. PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION OR Mr. BIDEN'S.

AND THIS IS COMING IRONICALLY DURING AN AGGRESSIVE-FED TIGHTENING CYCLE.

AND IT'S A PUZZLE TO MANY PEOPLE.

>> Ted: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, THE CPI AND INFLATION IS THERE AND IT'S A PROBLEM AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, CRITICS ARE SAYING, REPUBLICANS MOSTLY ARE SAYING THAT IT'S BECAUSE OF BIDENOMICS AND THAT'S WHY THINGS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.

INFLATION AS IT WAS AND IS NOW, DUE TO BIDENOMICS?

>> EVERYBODY HAS A HAND IN THIS AND GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND EXCESSIVE FEDERAL RESERVE CREDIT CONTRIBUTE, BUT THE WAY WE RESPONDED TO COVID WAS THROW MONEY AT IT.

I MEAN THE PPP LOANS, THE DIRECT SUBSIDIES AND ALL THAT HAPPENED UNDER Mr. TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION AND THEN, INDEED, BIDEN DOUBLED DOWN ON IT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION SAID, WELL, UNDERDID IT IN 2009 AND WE DIDN'T STIMULATE ENOUGH, SO WE'LL MAKE DAM SURE DAMN SURE WE DO IT THIS TIME.

I WOULD PUT THE ORIGINS OF THIS INFLATION CHALLENGE, THEY DATE BACK TO 2017.

>> Ted: WHOA!

>> WHEN WE DECIDED AS A COUNTRY TO GO AMERICA FIRST, AMERICA FIRST, AMERICA FIRST AND CUT OFF GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAINS.

WE GOT BUY BY FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN WHEN THE FRENZY OF POST POST-COVID HIT, IT REALLY REARED ITS HEAD.

SO WHERE WILL WE GO FROM NOW IF WE WON'T OPEN GLOBALIZATION BACK UP?

I DON'T SEE IT FROM EITHER PARTY, BY THE A.

WAY.

WE HAVE TO BUILD DOMESTICALLY AND FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND WHEN WE HAD SUPPLY-SIDE ECONOMICS FROM THE 80'S, THEY DIDN'T INVEST THAT CAPITAL HERE.

THEY INVESTED IT AROUND THE WORLD.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE INCENTIVES TO INVEST HERE BECAUSE WAGES ARE HIGHER AND REGULATIONS ARE TOUGHER AND IF WE FIGHT THROUGH THAT, WE MAKE THOSE GOODS DOMESTICALLY, WE WILL HAVE A FISCAL POLICY THAT MIRRORS THAT.

>> Ted: IS BIDENOMICS SOMETHING THAT WAS THE RIGHT IDEA AT THE RIGHT TIME BUT MIGHT RUN ITS COURSE AND SUPPLY-SIDE THEORY MIGHT COME BACK INTO PLAY ONCE THINGS EVEN OUT AND ANTI-GLOBAL SITUATION SETTLES DOWN.

>> THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE INDUCE GROWTH AND SUPPLY?

YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL SUPPLY SIDE NOTION WAS, CUT TAXES, CUT TAXES, CUT TAXES.

YOU LISTEN AND CUT, FIND A TAX AND CUT IT.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GROW SUPPLY, AS WELL.

BUT NOT NECESSARILY BY JUST CUTTING TAXES WILLY-NILLY BECAUSE FRANKLY, IT'S NOT GOOD IF YOU'RE OUT TO GROW DOMESTIC SUPPLY AND SO, WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GROW DOMESTIC SUPPLY.

IS IT THE CHIP'S ACT OR TAX CUTS FOR CORPORATIONS.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION, CAN IT BE ARGUED THAT WE ARE STILL FACING WHAT COULD BE A RECESSION?

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY, IT'S STILL POSSIBLE.

THE CAN KEEPS GETTING KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.

I THINK I WAS HERE IN DECEMBER TALKING ABOUT JUST MANY RED FLAGS AS I'VE EVER SEEN.

AND SOME OF THOSE FLAGS ARE STILL OUT THERE, BUT WHO KNOWS.

>> Ted: WON'TWOULD BIDENOMICS MEAN A SOFTER LANDING THAN CHANGING THAT?

>> DEPENDS ON WHAT CONSUMER ATTITUDES DO IF WE DO START TO CIRCLE THE DRAIN IN TERMS FROM HERE ON OUT.

IT'S BEEN GOOD SO FAR.

WE CAN HOPE THAT IT CONTINUES ON.

BUT A MILD OR SEVERE RECESSION IN '24 WOULD CERTAINLY BE DEVASTATING FOR THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.

>> Ted: BEFORE YOU GO, IF A MILD RECESSION OR A STRONGER RECESSION HITS, BIDENOMICS, IS IT STILL THE ANSWER?

>> OH, YOU HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH GLOBALIZATION.

YOU KNOW, I'M A GLOBALIST AS EVERYBODY KNOWS.

I THINK THAT WORKED PRETTY WELL FOR DECADES.

BUT IF YOU TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE, NOW YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INDUCE DOMESTIC DEMAND AND I DON'T THINK JUST STRAIGHT-OUT TAX CUTS WILL DO IT.

>> Ted: DENNIS HOFFMAN, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS, TED.

>> Ted: A LOCAL HOUSING FUND OFFERS GRANTS TO ARIZONA'S MOST VULNERABLE FAMILIES.

THE ARIZONA HOUSING FUND ANNOUNCED 5 HIM THOUSAND DOLLARS INANTS TO FOUR NONPROFITS TO PROVIDE HOMES TO ARIZONA'S MOST VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AND PART OF THE AARP SEGMENTS TO OLDER ADULTS IN ARIZONA, WE LOOK AT WHERE THIS GRANT MONEY WILL BE HEADED.

WE HAVE THE MEMBER OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND CEO OF CENTRAL ARIZONA SHELTER SERVICES.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS, TED.

>> Ted: THE ARIZONA HOUSING FUND, WHAT IS THIS?

>> A CONFORMING FUND UNDER THE ARIZONA COMMUNITY FOUNDATION.

WE COLLECT MONEY TO HELP PROJECTS ON THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR STATE, HOMELESS FOLK AND WE ACTUALLY COME IN AND HELP TO COMPLETE PROJECTS WHEN.

INSTEAD OF A NORMAL CAPITAL STACK, YOU PUT TOGETHER A MOSAIC OF FUNDING AND IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AT THE LAST BIT.

AND DESIGNED TO FILL THAT GAP.

>> Ted: HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHICH PROJECTS TO TAKE ON?

>> THEY COME TO US WITH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS THAT WE PUT OUT ON A BIANNUAL BASIS AND WE LOOK AT PROJECTS AND ANALYZE THEM IN THE PAST HISTORY THE DEVELOPERS HAVE AND WHAT IS THE CAPACITY TO GET A PROJECT DONE.

WE CHOSE FROM A SELECTION.

WE CHOSE THEM TO MADE SENSE AND CONTINUE.

>> Ted: HOW OFTEN ARE THE GRANTS?

>> NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR SCHEDULE AND WHENEVER WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE AND WE REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

>> Ted: ONE OF THE PROJECTS IS INVOLVING THE CENTRAL ARIZONA SHELTER SERVICES AND LISA, THAT'S YOU, ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A SENIOR HAVEN PROJECT.

>> FIRST, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE GRANT OF 100,000 AND SO, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RENOVATING AN OLD HOTEL, BEAUTIFYING A HOTEL THAT WILL HOUSE TEMPORARILY 170 SENIORS, 55 AND OLDER AT A TIME.

AND THE FUNDING WILL HELP US TO COMPLETE RENOVATIONS.

WHAT'S EXCITING ABOUT THIS, THIS IS A NEW MODEL OF HELPING FORMERLY HOMELESS SENIORS AS THEY TRANSITION OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

THIS IS A CLOSED CAMPUS MODEL.

ALL SERVICES ON SITE AND ONE TO 15 CASE MANAGEMENT RATIOS.

AND FIRST OF A NATION.

WE THINK THESE ARE SOME OF THE MODELS IN THE FUTURE THAT THE ARIZONA HOUSING FUND CAN BE LEVERAGED AND GET OPEN.

>> Ted: I WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING AND DOING AND WHY WAS THIS PROJECT SELECTED?

>> YOU HAVE CASS, ONE OF THE BEST IN THIS PART OF THE WORD DOINGIN THE WORLDAND SEEING WHAT THEY DO AND REPURPOSING IS SOMETHING THAT IS INEXPENSIVE.

>> Ted: ON THE BLACK HIGHWAY.

CORRECT?

>> THE OLD PHOENIX INN.

>> Ted: HOW LONG CAN PEOPLE STAY THERE AND QUALIFICATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO RESIDE THERE?

>> HOMELESSNESS, 55 AND OLDER AND SOME PEOPLE RESOLVE IT IN A MATTER OF MONTHS AND SOME TAKE A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AND IT'S THAT LONGER TERM SUPPORT.

THE FACT THAT 30% OF THE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND RISING IS WHY WE'RE FOCUSED.

>> Ted: ARE YOU SEEING MORE OLDER FOLKS WITH THE SITUATION?

>> NATIONALLY, IT'S ABOUT 30% OF THE OVERALL HOMELESS POPULATION AND LARGELY DUE TO ECONOMICS AND PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOMES, RISING RENTS CAN NO LONGER AFFORD HOUSING AND 65 AND OLDER IS RECALLEDLY RISING.

>> Ted: HOUSING FOR HOPE AND PROJECT IN PAGE, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE FOCUSED ON SMALLER TOWNS, AS WELL.

>> THE ARIZONA HOUSING FUND IS THAT, FOR THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

>> Ted: YES.

>> THE STATE OF ARIZONA IS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND THE LAST DAY IN MAY, THERE'S 13,000 PLUS PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS IN STATE AND NOT ISOLATED TO PHOENIX BUT ALL OVER THE STATE.

>> Ted: HOUSING SOLUTIONS FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA IN FLAGSTAFF ALONG ROUTE 66, HUH?

>> ALONG 66, AND A RENOVATION OF A HOTEL TO REPURPOSE THE PROPERTY.

>> Ted: IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RENT IS BASED ON INCOME AND IS THAT SOMETHING INVOLVED WITH YOUR PROJECT, AS WELL?

>> WE DO NOT CHARGE PEOPLE STAYING WITH US.

OUR GOAL IS TO HELP PEOPLE END HOME WEATHERNESSLESSNESS AND WE MEET THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT.

>> Ted: OSBORNE POINT PROJECT, WHAT IS THAT?

>> A GROUND-UP BUILD AND A PLATINUM CERTIFIED BUILDING AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY UNIQUE IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS AND AGAIN FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND THERE ARE WRAP-AROUND SERVICES FOR THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM WITH JOBS AND HEALTHCARE.

>> Ted: CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AND DISABLED, AS WELL.

>> YES.

>> Ted: ARE PEOPLE FINALLY GETTING IT WITH THE SITUATION?

WE'RE DOING A LOT OF STORIES ON THIS PROGRAM AND MUCH MORE THAN WE USED TO AND SOUNDS LIKE MORE PROJECTS ARE OUT THERE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS IN ARIZONA LEADING TO MORE HOMELESSNESS AND WE HAVE TO BUILD MORE HOUSING.

WE NEED 270,000 UNITS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY IS HOW BRILLIANT I THINK IT WAS THAT THIS FUND WAS STARTED.

HOWARD EPSTEIN ON THE CASS BOARD, CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA AND ENROLLED TIM AND MANY OTHERS IN TO HELP RAISE THE DOLLARS SO MORE PRIVATE DOLLARS COULD GO INTO IT AND IT'S EASY.

IF YOU ARE CLOSING ON YOUR HOME, YOU CAN MAKE A $25 DONATION TO THE FUND AND NOT ALL DEVELOPERS ARE DOING IT YET.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT AND A SIMPLE ROUND-UP AND THERE'S SO MANY WAYS PEOPLE CAN HELP THE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH THE CREATIVE PARTNERSHIP.

>> Ted: GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH AND CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF THE GREAT WORK AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PROJECT, AS WELL, AND BEST OF LUCK.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS FOR JOINING US.

♪♪ >> Ted: ASU'S OH SHER LIFE-LONG LEARNING INSTITUTE BRINGS CULTURAL COURSES AND PROGRAMS TO ADULTS 50 AND OLDER.

IT INCLUDES HISTORY, ART, MUSIC, LITERATURE, GEE OG GEOGRAPHIC AND MORE AND WE WELCOME JARED SWERZENSKI.

THE OSHER LIFE-LONG INSTITUTE, YOU CALL IT OLLIE, WHAT IS THIS ABOUT?

>> IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION AT ASU AND HOWED IN WATT'S COLLEGE ACROSS THE STREET HERE.

WE HAVE NONCREDIT COURSES FOR ANYONE 50 OR BETTER, ANYBODY FROM BIRD WATCHING TO HISTORY TO THE WATER SHORTAGE IN ARIZONA OR MYTHS AND DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE POLITICAL PARTY.

SO WE ARE HERE TO SERVE ACCESSIBLE EDUCATION TO ANYONE 50 OR BETTER.

SO THAT'S OR DEMOGRAPHIC, 50 OR BETTER.

>> Ted: I MENTIONED HISTORY, ART, MUSIC AND SCIENCE AND YOU MENTIONED CLASSES, AS WELL.

THERE ARE DAY TRIPS, FIELD TRIPS, HIKES?

>> WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

WE PARTNERED WITH MCDOWELL CONSERVANCY AND WE HAVE DAY HIKES AND CHECKING OUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE DESERT.

WE DID A TRIP TO THE SEDONA FILM FESTIVAL WITH DR. SANDLER AND WE GOT A BEHIND-THE--SCENES LOOK AND THE DIRECTOR TOLD US HOW THEY SELECT MOVIES AND DIFFERENT STORY.

GOOD ACTORS THAT WERE EASY TO DEAL WITH, NOT EASY TO DEAL WITH WITH.

WE HAD GREAT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE MOVIES AND A GOT INTELLECT.

>> Ted: THESE ARE CLASSES ARE THERE PRE-REQUEST PREREQUISITES?

>> IT'S ONE SESSION, TWO SESSIONS OR FOUR SESSIONS, AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN GO.

EACH SESSION, ONE TWICE, AND IT'S BASED ON THE PROFESSORS OR COMMUNITY EXPERTS CHOOSE THE TOPICS AND CURATE THE CLASSES AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

WE LEAN ON EXPERTS TO GIVE THE INFORMATION TO OUR MEMBERS.

>> Ted: IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PHYSICS, FOUR CLASSES IN PHYSICS WITH THE SAME OR A DIFFERENT PROFESSOR OR IS IT PHYSICS AND THEN THREE OTHER CLASSES?

>> YOU TAKE IT WITH THE SAME PROFESSOR AND I'LL USE AN EXAMPLE.

DR. HENDRICKSON IS AN AMAZING PROFESSOR AVENUE THEY TEACH A THREE-SESSION CLASS ON THE EVOLUTION AND OTHER BIOLOGY AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND TEACH A THREE SESSION AND A ONE-SESSION AND WE TRY TO GET IT FOR EVERY MEMBER.

IF THEY HAVE ONE TUESDAY FREE IN THE FALL, WE WANT TO HAVE THEM ACCESSIBLE AND READY TO LEARN.

IF THEY WANT THREE IN A ROW, WE HAVE THAT, AS WELL.

>> Ted: YOU CAN HAVE FOUR CLASSES OF FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS?

>> YES, ALA CARTE.

ONE CLASS JUST THIS FALL OR YOU CAN STACK IT UP AND HAVE 15 CLASS ON HISTORY AND WE WILL BE AT THE MIMM MUSEUM HAVING SOME OF THEIR TEAM CURATE AND JENNIFER GRAY WILL BE HAVING A CLASS, A BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOOK, FRANK LLOYD-WRIGHT ARCHITECTURE.

>> Ted: THIS IS PART OF THE LEARNING ENTERPRISE AT ASU, IS THAT TRUE?

>> IT'S UNDER THAT PURVIEW.

DR. CROWE DID AN AMAZING JOB WITH ASU IN WHERE WE ARE AND WE'RE AN INSTITUTE WITHIN WATTS COLLEGE.

>> Ted: THESE PEOPLE ARE LEARNING HOW TO BIRD WATCH AND LIKE A GREAT THING AND IT IS THAT LIFE-LONG LEARNING THING AND I WOULD IMAGINE, AS OPPOSED TO CLASSES WHERE THESE INSTRUCTORS TEACH, THESE ARE ENGAGED STUDENTS?

>> THESE ARE VERY ENGAGED STUDENTS.

THIS IS AN INTER INTERGENERATIONALWORK.

INTERGENERATIONAL WORK.

INTERGENERATIONAL WORKSHOPS AND WHETHER IT WAS METAL WORKING OR ART FROM THE DESERT AND THERE IS A PIECE RIGHT THERE.

OUR MEMBERS LEARN FROM THE GRADUATE STUDENTS AND THERE IS THE DR. HENDRICKSON TEACHING.

YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND, ASK ANY QUESTION OR STAY SILENT AND LEARN.

>> Ted: WHAT COST ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

>> IT'S A $20 MEMBERSHIP FOR THE SEMESTER AND MANY OPTIONS -- IT'S TOUGH FINANCIALLY.

WE HAVE SCHOLARSHIPS OPEN AND THAT'S A PART OF THE ACCESSIBILITY -- THE OSHER FOUNDATION WANTED US TO HAVE THIS.

>> Ted: EVERYTHING ELSE ON CAMPUS?

>> SEVEN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

ONE DOWNTOWN HERE, ASU WEST, HEALTH FUTURES BY THE MAYO CLINIC AND WE JUST OPENED AT THE CHANDLER INNOVATION CENTER AND THE TEMPE LOCATION, AS WELL.

>> Ted: JARED SWERZENSKI, OSHER LIFE-LONG AND CALL IT OLLIE.

>> THEY DO.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!