because me and.

Rocket ruining the haven while the moon is coming up tonight we're got hammer out a rhythm to that grew is feeling nice and tight The only chore that we got finished was each other.

Honey, that's all right.

You're on my to do list.

I got you right on top.

I'm gonna need assistance to put a check in my eyes.

Well, what about it?

I heard just a bit of good, but Thank you.

Gothic theater.

I am Stephan Brackett, the host of Sounds on 29th with PBS 12. let me tell you, being able to sit down and talk with musicians who are so dedicated, who took talents and then put in the hard work to get to mastery is no joke.

Beyond that, I have never talked to another group of musicians that has more extensive lore.

Like if you talk about like their alter egos and all of these other things, it's utterly fantastic.

So can you all please give a warm round of applause for one of Colorado's best and greatest Big Richard?

At first the world was fire.

Burning hot, vast, dry.

Well, you watch it.

They grow hotter.

Ashes filled out from the sky.

Then we watched the first black one.

We got our favorite.

my.

The wind just stronger all around us.

Burning flames.

However big, however.

So you got to build it someday it's going to fall.

No matter how big.

No matter how small you get there.

Someday it's going to fall And.

In the rain.

It started in our world.

People moving down there.

We packed our things.

We spent our wings.

We had for higher ground.

It all washed away so much.

We love you less than a year.

All of us can get there and make do with the water washed it clear.

However I think however.

So you're going to be urban some days.

Got to go.

No matter how big, no matter how strong you get.

Build it now our air is turned to poison.

And our water catches.

Flame.

You know, we're blowing out the ground.

The drop layer.

We are digging holes.

Never feel the ground shakes to protest, but we just close our eyes and as appears, the rain will stop and drop as however big however.

So you're got to build it.

Someday it's going to fall.

No matter how big, no matter how small you get.

Build it.

Someday it's going to go on.

However they however go, you're going to build it, but someday it's going to fall.

No matter how big, no matter how slow you get, build it.

But that's all they was someday.

Someday So better.

Never doubt when you die, you live all so glad to have you all here.

can you all describe bluegrass as a genre with you?

Big Richard As the archetypal bluegrass band.

Wow, Good question.

Wow.

Well, I feel like I feel like we're kind of like an antithesis of of like some normal things and.

Yes.

And standard things like instrumentation.

We definitely go against the grain because I feel like the typical instrumentation would be much more classic, like banjo free fingerstyle, like banjo guitar, mandolin, fiddle, bass, dobro, maybe.

And we don't have a guitars and we have a cello principally, you know, So that already is like bluegrass.

People are like, Wow, I like that kind of.

Takes exactly that.

So yeah, wow.

I feel like we are at a time of reckoning and actually finding out like the stereotypes of certain things have nothing to do with the history of it.

Yes.

Can you talk a bit about the invisible story and who contributed to old time music and all those things that you talked about?

Well, I mean, the biggest one, I think, is people stereotypically think that bluegrass is a white genre and it's simply not.

I mean, a banjo came from Africa and there's such a deep tradition of of black fiddlers that gets washed over and ignored.

And and also women, too.

Women are deep in that in their genres.

Yeah.

I just I just think that that white stereotype is totally wrong.

But of course, it's like those are the people who make it in the pictures.

Yeah.

bluegrass kind of has people think of it in a traditional approach as you're going to play these songs that were in these keys from these years.

And that's a tradition.

The tradition lies in the actual material itself.

And when you look at bluegrass and what it was at the time of music, it was innovating.

They were pioneering new ideas.

So I think a lot of tradition lies in the innovation and doing things in a fresh way with these instruments and with this, you know, traditional string band approach.

So for me, that's the steeple is gone and the devil's outside.

She's gone crazy and she won't come inside.

I knew I had to Is a nail on the floor.

I see her long hair.

She won't come to the door right away.

Stay safe.

On the cold night.

They always stay safe from the cold.

I Portland in Spain razed to the ground in concentric circles, Knocked round and round, rolling Everybody on the other hand.

She was a I'm still the same.

But we stay safe from the cold in our grave.

We stay safe in the pouring rain.

A tree right beside.

Her has died a thousand times.

Did we lose faith in the absence of real time?

No.

My be with her in this wasteland.

But I'm hiding and I hope to be gone.

And we stay safe from.

The cold and our grave.

And we stay safe from.

The cold in our grief.

And we stay safe from the cold gray side.

We stay safe on the.

Corner, get away and we stay.

Safe from the gun bay side.

We stay safe from.

The cold in our grave.

shows along those lines?

I mean, do you, do you like knowing that that's a regular effect?

Like how do you maximize it or.

I was just going to say just knowing the personalities on stage, I feel like sometimes the more we, the more we plan for something, the less likely it may be to happen.

Yeah, but it does feel like we just yeah, I think sometimes people see four women on stage and they do have an expectation that they're going to get a specific show from that.

And yeah, and I do feel like a lot of the time it just it can go in a completely different direction.

And a lot of the time we don't know what that's going to be and and.

Where it's going.

I just feel like we're surprising ourselves.

Yeah, the times.

Are the most.

Clean for each other.

Yeah.

And there's there's a great deal of like, there's so many inside jokes, there's so many, like, inside challenges and games that we have now between ourselves.

And so I worry sometimes that people come to our shows and it's just like watching one giant inside joke go.

Hopefully that's entertaining to other people, how have you found taking up your space and claiming your space in the genre?

And what do you think that means to your audiences?

we kind of have the saying in Big Richard of like Big Richard, big feelings, because I think people come to our show with the impression that like I feel like our first impression is kind of like, you know, maybe your first impression was like greasy coat, like these, like old time burners and kind of like a rag like party thing.

And you're like, you come here ready to be like my thing, and then you end up, like, crying and we're singing sad songs and you're, you come up to people are coming towards the end and, like, hugging us and like, literally, like grown men tears, you know, it's like a really it's really fun to be able to feel like I myself as a performer, go to these emotional breaks.

And for the people that come with us and like, come with us all the way so much that they're feeling really affected by it and they want to come tell us about it afterwards.

And that to me, like making that emotional like outlet available to people, maybe even when they're not expecting it, don't know that they need it, but then they like really tap into something.

I love that.

Like, that's like the the thing that we like, provide that space for and like really get a lot of takers in that like they like come and they're like, we need this like sign up, I'll take sounds.

The end of the hallway door to the left in the darkness.

Don't forget to use the step.

Down in the basement, there is a. Hole and they won't fix it.

So it's great.

So and so.

So we whisper.

So we So we won't burn down.

The house where we were born is a much dirt hidden there.

Tell me, why won't we repair the missing step walking on eggshells?

Walk it away.

Always careful with the words that we used to sing.

We were the vamp line.

Everything goes blurring the lines.

Between the lines and what I know.

So we whisper.

So we worry.

So we will burn down the house where we were born.

Is a monster hid in there?

Tell me, why won't we repair the still the missing stay?

The message.

Said.

she's getting.

Tell me you.

we repair the busy stair.

You could have done something.

You know, I should have done more.

Sure.

But I did see.

You when you opened up that door.

Now they're gonna blame you for breaking your bones down, calling gravity.

You are casting all this stuff still we whisper.

Still we won because we can't burn down the house where we were both made a monster.

A tell you I will leave it there you amazing missing steadily here go this instead of using square this tell me you are only we repair the missing step on our.

like recording a live album and then like doing like a studio album and what are some of the things like you, what are the pros and cons of it?

I A live album is just an album of regrets.

no, no.

I I'm going to say I like I kind of love that.

Like there's I feel like there's some pressure that comes.

There's like some pressure on a live album because you're like, okay, well, here's my one shot.

But I kind of just like love having a moment in time.

That happens.

Yes.

And then you let it go.

Because that is what any album is.

Yeah.

Album or live album.

Yeah.

Just a time capsule of one moment in time.

Especially with with this music where it's like, this is how we play it and we're not so in a studio.

It's fun because you can, you can try new ideas out maybe, and you can add more and have more of like a producer role.

But I don't know, I just love I just like love playing.

And there it is.

I like I will forever love the live album because I think I mean, one thing we all learned you probably do during COVID was that the audience is the other band member.

Yes.

And we can't we can't exist without them.

You have to have them.

And so to be able to record an album with that other band member is incredible.

And you just can't.

It doesn't matter how good you are of a musician, you just can't replace them in the studio.

It's so hard to get day, especially if you're doing these like kind of single track style things.

It's just it's it's a beast to get that energy.

I'm still stopped by it.

I'll be forever.

Yeah.

And also I feel like we, we come into the studio or like I wasn't on the first album, but like for the second album, it's like we all came into the studio with an almost an exact understanding of what we, what we wanted like, and we'd already figured out the arrangements and all this stuff.

And I feel like a big thing of making a studio album is just coming up with like sometimes people like go into the studio and they don't know everything that's going to happen on it yet and like it that it's like an experimental thing.

And for us it was like, Well, we're just going to play our stuff, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

Like all those songs were really road tested.

It's, and it's like definitely like the sophomore offering of like we've been on the road together playing, you know, 100 plus dates every year for a couple of years.

And so it like, feels like the first one was like right out of the gate, you know?

And so, like, I feel like a maturity and like differentiation of just like our sound between the two records of that too.

For sure.

A maturation matter.

No one's ever called me mature before, so I'll do.

It like something.

We had a lot of love during my term Richard, thank you all.

On.

That.

We will wrap.

It go before it started, like a song, and I can't.

Remember how it goes or how you go.

But just run it like a freight train, carry you back down that track.

You've been there for just like before.

And it's the same old story that you told, said, My kitchen table.

You could only get so close before your pull away.

You could never stay.

Good.

Goodbye.

Does it be that it's like a goodbye?

Does it feel like the goodbye?

For a million little reasons.

Goodbye.

So long, my friend.

Long before we parted.

Just like to train planes.

We burned into this world.

To do this world you're gonna burn out on your own Now you share.

It felt just like losing control.

And you lost control.

And it's the same old story that we've heard a billion times.

I'll never dim my shine.

Someone else feels like I shine too bright.

I just hold on tight and goodbye Doesn't mean that it's over and goodbye.

It doesn't feel like the end Goodbye.

4 million better reasons.

Goodbye.

So long.

My friend.

And time.

Goes by.

Like the final.

Smile when you cross my mind.

So long, my friend.

Goodbye.

Does it mean that you sober Goodbye.

It doesn't feel like the end It is that for a million little reasons.

Goodbye.

So long.

But that doesn't mean that it's over the goodbye.

Does it feel like it's a goodbye?

For a million little reasons.

Goodbye.

So long.

But no, no, no, no.

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