
Black Leaders Detroit/Workplace DEI
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Black Leaders Detroit, Workplace DEI, Dance Theatre of Harlem | Episode 5002
A sit down with Black Leaders Detroit Founder Dwan Dandridge to talk about the financial support his organization is providing to local Black-owned businesses and entrepreneurs. Then marketing consultant Mark S. Lee on the progress of diversity, equity and inclusion in the workplace since the death of George Floyd. Episode 5002
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Black Leaders Detroit/Workplace DEI
Season 50 Episode 2 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
A sit down with Black Leaders Detroit Founder Dwan Dandridge to talk about the financial support his organization is providing to local Black-owned businesses and entrepreneurs. Then marketing consultant Mark S. Lee on the progress of diversity, equity and inclusion in the workplace since the death of George Floyd. Episode 5002
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We'll get an update also, on workplace diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts, and the Dance Theater of Harlem is coming to Detroit.
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(jazz music) >>Welcome to American Black Journal.
I'm Stephen Henderson and as always, thanks for joining us.
You know, funding is one of the most consistent challenges for Black businesses and nonprofits.
And my next guest has made it his mission to bridge that gap.
Dwan Dandridge founded Black Leaders Detroit, to come up with equitable solutions to the financial challenges that Black businesses face.
I sat down with him to hear about his efforts and what the outlook is for 2022.
Dwan Dandridge, welcome to American Black Journal.
>>Stephen, thanks for having me.
Happy New Year to you.
>>Yes, I'm glad that you're here, because you and I had a conversation in a board meeting about a month ago.
It made me think I wanted our viewers here on American Black Journal hear the things you were saying.
You were talking to the board of the Hudson-Webber Foundation about the challenges, the specific challenges, that Black businesses and nonprofits face in making sure they have enough money.
And you weren't just talking about the typical barriers, you were talking about things like networking, and connections, and the kind of intrinsic things that make it easier for people who are part of the majority population to get things started, and keep them going.
I thought it was one of the most insightful things I had heard about Black businesses and nonprofits.
>>Yeah, well thanks.
I mean, I think, you know, we're aware in the work that we do, that there are systemic issues that are just persistent, and we're constantly trying to overcome those, but I also think that there are some nuance to things.
I think one of the things that when you're talking about capital, access to capital, now that everybody's kind of like taking it as a core value to be about equity and equality, I think that some of the organizations that are out there just aren't necessarily ready to pull it off, or don't know how to.
So one of the things that I try to encourage the Black entrepreneur, be it for-profit, or the non-profit sector, is to be very intentional about the way that they network, right.
I think that's a part of the lack of access, is our networks.
The way I view it is, part of the solution to the problem, is what we organically bring to the table through our lived experience, our understanding to those systemic issues that are there.
We have a wealth of that.
So like I can pick up my phone, and reach out at any given time to a number of people that understand our plight, and have come up with some of the solution, right.
Be it, you know, as practitioner, right, like solving a problem, because it was a struggle that they had personally, or someone in their family.
But that's a part of the solution.
The thing that we don't often have is the people in our phone, that we can reach out to that can provide seed money, right, for our business, for profit or nonprofit.
And I think that's one of the things that I've been able to learn as I've been on his journey.
And I often try to share it.
But I think, you know, as our allies, or our partners that are out there looking to solve the problem, one of the things I challenge them to do often is to understand that we don't come to the table empty handed.
Oftentimes, the posture in these conversations are, you know, the money is a need for us to do the work, for us to run our business.
But I think that there's a need on the other side, right.
Oftentimes, the foundations are tasked with saying, we're going to use these dollars to change the world.
And what I understand, and some of the people that I work with understand, if not, I try to encourage them, or push them a little bit to understand that you can't do it without us, right.
Like those of us that are out here, and committed our lives to solving the problems.
Like we come to the table, an answer to your needs, and what you're lacking, right.
So it's important that the posture is a certain way for anybody that we're looking to partner with.
And that was a conversation I had with some folks over at Hudson-Webber, before we got to the board meeting.
And I was happy that they responded like a real partner would.
>>Yeah, so let's talk specifically about how Black Leaders Detroit works.
What is it that you're doing to help Black businesses and nonprofits bridge that gap to make those connections that they don't always have intrinsically?
>>Yeah, so basically we are the pot of money.
That's what we desire to be, a pot of money that the Black entrepreneurs in Detroit can look to when they need funding.
And the way that we go about that is, the way we're structured, is we provide grants for the nonprofit sector.
And a no-interest loan that we're excited to roll out this month, and start receiving applications for our no-interest loan product.
That's gonna launch this month.
That's the way, for for-profits.
That's the way we were originally set up.
But we decided to pivot, April of 2020, when we saw the devastation the pandemic was causing on the small business community.
And we decided to provide grants for the small business community, as well as the nonprofit sector.
And, you know, we're excited to say that we've given away over $400,000 to Black owned businesses or led nonprofits, since April of 2020.
And all the bills were grant dollars that we have raised through our membership, but also some of the foundations and corporate sponsorships.
>>And so that's meeting the immediate needs of these businesses and nonprofits.
But what about that bigger picture that you were talking about, about developing those networks, developing those connections, so that the next person who says, I got a business idea, or I wanna start a nonprofit, has more access to that other capital.
>>Agreed, I think, you know, again, being intentional about that, right.
One of the things that we have to see, as our responsibility, if we are raising money for our business or a nonprofit that we're leading, or we're a part of, when you able to create that network, and you have access, and you get in front of the people, that are able to write big checks, they see that there's talent here, right.
Like, we are very talented.
we're really gifted.
And we have the same drive, work ethic, that as anybody else that they may be already writing checks to.
Once they have access to us in that way, what it does is, now I'm able to reach out, and make a call for the next person coming down the line.
I'm able to make an introduction.
And the other thing is I'm tearing down the narrative that you know, oftentimes our White colleagues have in their minds, or others, right, about us, when it comes to the type of talent that we have, the ability that we have, we're giving them something to combat the narrative of the images that they've seen about us historically.
>>Yeah, it's a really great program.
And one of the things I love about it, is you saw a need and you filled it.
There's so much opportunity to do that in our city, and not everybody is ready to jump in there the way you did.
So congratulations, and of course, thanks from the community here in Detroit for all of the work that you're doing.
Dwan Dandridge, thanks so much also for joining us here on American Black Journal.
>>Thanks, thanks for having me.
>>The murder of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer in May of 2020 led to an enormous outpouring of sentiment about making things more equal in the workplace.
Lots of workplaces said, that they were gonna hire more minorities.
They hired DEI consultants to help them do that, and to make their workplaces more welcoming.
And, it was all in an effort to make racial equality more of a priority.
So, where do we stand with all of that?
I caught up with consultant, Mark Lee, to talk about where we are in 2022, with diversity, equity, and inclusion.
I wanna start with what's different now, two years nearly after the death of George Floyd and all these promises that got made about change in the workplace, change in the makeup of the workplace, change in the dynamics in the workplace?
They were big promises when they were made.
Are they being fulfilled in 2022?
>>I think it's still too early to tell.
I can tell you though, there has been some progress since, the whole George Floyd situation, if you will.
We have noticed an increase in terms of the number of DEI positions.
Over a 100% increase in those types of positions were being filled.
And we've also noticed an increase again, generally speaking now, we've noticed the increase in the resources being allocated back by major organizations in this space.
But in terms of how the total objectives, and have they been totally fulfilled?
It's still too early to tail.
There's a long ways to go.
>>So to me, the thing that matters the most in the workplace is the actual diversity of the staff, right?
It's great to have leaders who care about diversity, and equity, and inclusion, and hire consultants, or even full-time employees to work on those issues.
But if their workplaces themselves are not diverse, then it kind of defeats the purpose, at least for me.
Talk about how much talk there has been about changing the dynamics.
And then how much of the outcome that we've seen become different, especially in C-suites, right.
Executive suites all over the country, still are places that it's hard to break into if you're not White.
>>And that's where the gap is.
We're still seeing that gap, excuse me, at the senior management level.
They will talk about diversity, There were commitment statements that we're served and put out right after the George Floyd situation.
But if you look at the statistical data, the majority of the C-suite level positions are still held by Caucasians.
And that, you know, a lot more, as you're closer down into the organization, you will find some diversity at all levels of the organization, but it does not sync up where it needs to be at the senior level.
So there's still that shortfall at the senior level.
And it's been statistically proven, there was a study by the Boston Consulting Group, that if you have a diverse senior leadership team, you have an opportunity of generating 17% more revenue, because people wanna do business with people that look like them.
So it's one thing to talk about diversity, but another thing to actually have diverse leaders, and then let that filter throughout the organization, and engage all the employees throughout the process.
>>And hiring for diversity is an art, in some ways.
And I say that as somebody who's done a fair amount of hiring in my career.
You have to do it differently, if you're trying to create a diverse workforce.
And I still wonder, I guess, whether enough hiring managers understand what that art looks like, and what it really means to attract a diverse pool of candidates, and then be able to select for diversity.
All while not compromising other standards, not compromising excellence, which you don't have to do.
It is possible and necessary, to be able to hire at a high level, and respect diversity.
But I guess I just don't feel like enough people really understand how that works.
>>And that's another challenge that businesses are grappling with, is shifting the paradigm.
I'm comfortable, when I'm staying comfortable, I'm not, me personally, I'm just saying in general, people are comfortable doing things the way they've always been done.
They will talk about it, but yet we may recruit at the same colleges and universities.
That's not a knock on those colleges and universities.
There's a diverse group of universities where there's a wealth of talent that people need to begin to tap into.
So I would challenge organizations and say, are you now recruiting much more aggressively at HBCUs, for example?
Are you using your diverse talent to get out there in the marketplace and talk to people?
Don't just sit in the C-suite, don't just sit in the ivory tower and talk about that commitment statement.
The challenge is to get out there, talk to students, mentor them, give them the opportunities to come into the workplace to demonstrate what they can do.
So it is still a challenge.
That challenge is shifting, with changing the paradigm from the old way of thinking into one that evolves into becoming much more forward thinking.
>>So I also worried when George Floyd was killed, and there was this real surge in attention to DEI issues, that it was happening at the same time that we were dealing with this awful pandemic, which of course we are still dealing with.
It looks really different today, than it did then.
But it is still really shaping a lot of the decisions we make, and the ways we live.
And I guess the reason that that made me worry was that something like a pandemic is a disruption to people's businesses.
It's a disruption to the workplace.
And I know from experience, that even the best intentioned workplaces and managers who are committed to DEI issues fall into the trap of sidelining that, when there are other things, when there are other things that need to be dealt with, right.
And the pandemic challenged businesses in financial ways, in management ways, and all these other things.
And I worried that the DEI issue would get buried at least a little, during the pandemic.
I wonder if we have any idea at how well they navigated that.
>>I think again, as I stated at the top of this discussion, that it's just still too early to tell.
Here's my concern, you are absolutely spot on.
And with the pandemic it's a natural excuse to say, we have other things to focus on.
I would argue that this is another reason why you need to focus in this space.
And because if we don't, you're missing out on business opportunities, okay.
And I think the fact of the matter is we continue to keep our heads in the sand in this space, organizations are not gonna proceed.
My other concern is, as it relates to the pandemic, and people watching the budgets.
A lot of the DEI practitioners that are going into the organizations still are not getting the budgets to implement what they need to do.
So now the pandemic becomes a logical excuse to say, let's redirect our resources to other spaces.
Someone inside the organization has to be strong enough and really challenge the leadership of the organization to say, we still need to invest in this space.
And the way that we need to invest in these space is have the right people in the right boxes.
And to have the financial resources.
Now is not the time to cut the budget in this critical area.
>>So we've really got about a minute left, but I wanna have you talk just a little about 2022, what people should be focused on, what they should be thinking about to keep things moving in this area?
>>And what they should be focused on in 2022 and beyond is having a strategic plan in this space.
I'm not talking about just hiring people, and saying we'll hire more diverse people.
No, what is your overall strategy?
How does it tie into the business strategy?
Make sure that you continue to engage your employees, and also hold the organization accountable.
And lastly, identify key metrics to help ensure that we are successful in this space of diversity, equity, and inclusion.
>>Okay, Mark Lee, always great to get your insights on this and other issues.
Thanks so much for joining us on American Black Journal.
>>Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
>>And finally, the world renowned Dance Theater of Harlem is coming to Detroit.
They're coming to premiere their new ballet, "Higher Ground," which is set to the music, you guessed it of Motown great, Stevie Wonder.
The troop was in Detroit in December to check things out and they stopped by the place that Stevie got his start, Hitsville USA.
Producer, A. J. Walker was there.
>>One, two, three, four, five, seven, eight and one.
>>The Dance Theater of Harlem combined movement, melody, and history at the Motown Museum when they previewed some of the dance moves for their upcoming show at the Michigan Opera Theater.
>>All right, good.
Very, very good, all right.
Let's go now, with just me not shouting.
The premier is a bow to the music of Stevie Wonder.
The title of it is "Higher Ground."
Named after that great, great song by Stevie Wonder.
And here we are in Studio A, where Stevie wonder got his start.
It is really quite remarkable to be in this space.
I can smell the artistic intention, and the artistic energy of the past years flooding forward and moving us forward into the future.
>>One, two, three, four, five, seven, eight, and one.
>>Robert Garland, resident choreographer of the troop, said they chose the music of Stevie Wonder because his music has a message.
>>Now, we need his music more than ever.
It is very rare you hear artists now, that address in full frontal fashion, the things that are going on at the time.
And I felt that Stevie Wonder's music was appropriate for this moment.
>>I mean, you listen to "Higher Ground" and you watch their performance, and it is just, it's moving, because so much of it is still so relevant.
>>The music that was created during the 70s, post civil rights, was music that was ready to address absolutely everything about what wasn't happening, after the great work of Dr. King and his assassination.
>>The song "Higher Ground" was written in 1973, just a few years after the Civil Rights Movement.
It was on Stevie Wonder's Innervisions album, which featured tracks that addressed social injustice.
>>I think we're in that moment right now too, with the Black Lives Matter movement.
It is exactly the same tone.
Exactly same politic, just 50 years later.
>>Lindsey Donnell, senior company member with the Dance Theater of Harlem says the recent social justice protests had an impact on her passion for dance, especially this upcoming performance.
>>Living through the pandemic, and the Black Lives Matter movement, it's really, I think it's changed the way all of us approach the piece, and feel about the significance of the work.
And that it's just so meaningful, and like to represent a time, and bring that forward into today, kind of with the same message I think is really special for our company.
>>Their trip to the Motor City has been several years in the making.
It was pushed back indefinitely due to the pandemic.
>>I'm happy to return to Detroit in 2021, because actually this ballet was to have premiered in 2020, in March.
But we had to go back to New York City, and wait until this moment due to the pandemic.
>>But now that they're here, they say the wait built up anticipation.
And the history of this building filled them with inspiration and purpose.
>>Just being here in Detroit, coming to the Motown Museum, I think it's really going to continue to inform our performance in January.
>>It's good to see the dancers get an opportunity to interact with their history.
We can't lift the museum up, and take it to New York.
So he brought the dancers to Detroit.
>>Robin Terry CEO of the Motown Museum says their presence, coupled with the legacy of legendary Motown artists was momentous.
>>Having Robert Garland and these really talented dancers from the Dance Theater of Harlem right here in Detroit, in the belly of Motown, at Hitsville USA to not only be inspired, but to give inspiration.
I mean, their dance was absolutely stunning.
And for these young people to have an opportunity to be here in Detroit at the place where Stevie Wonder got his start, where he was inspired to greatness, for them to have that opportunity, as they prepare to do their performance to "Higher Ground" was just something extra special.
>>After their performance preview, the dance troupe took a tour of the museum.
>>You are so empowering in your own right, and through your dance, and just your very vision, I just want you to know the power you have.
>>While this performance is a chance to prepare to dazzle the crowd during the show to come.
>>Of course, practice makes perfect.
>>Our preparation with Mr. Garland, you know, we learned the steps, and then we continue to practice it, continue to fine tune all the details.
>>They say dancing and the Motown Museum dazzled them, as well, and will be an inspiration when they take the stage.
>>The more that we learn about the history of Stevie Wonder himself, and the Motown legacy, I think has just been really wonderful to like continue to add that, and to make it more special, more personally meaningful, which I think will come out in our performances in January.
("Higher Ground") ♪ Whoo ♪ ♪ Till I reach the highest ground ♪ ♪ Yeah no one's gonna bring me down ♪ >>And the Dance Theater of Harlem will perform '"Higher Ground" on January 22nd and 23rd at the Michigan Opera Theater.
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Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in the Workplace
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