>> New polling shows black men might be shifting their attitudes about who to vote for next week's presidential election just 6 days away in case you haven't heard the black male vote has turned into a crucial block this election with both Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump making an appeal to get their votes here to talk more about what's at stake are Gary Gardner, co-founder of The We got a vote Billboard campaign and Devin Jones, Republican committeeman of the 18th Ward and chairman of the South Side Republicans.

Thank you both for joining us today.

We appreciate it.

Thank you so first.

I want to why do you think the black male vote has become such a deciding factor in this electoral cycle area?

Start with you.

Please.

>> measures black male voters much young.

generational difference is I think all young people back in April when we heard the pundits in the Journal is saying that, but were going to a vote in November.

I think they were talking really about all young man that just disenfranchised, that their choices were to be 2.80, year-olds.

And with that democracies, certain feel like it to me.

So think I understood the frustration.

I shoulders with a young black man every day.

So I really didn't hear that sentiment that they weren't going to vote.

They weren't allowed the Democratic Party to take the votes for granted.

They had to earn their vote.

And I think that may be that Democrats were slow to do that, to realize that.

But I think Kamala hazard to come up to speed and made.

I think a really credible, strong case to black men and we will turn up next week.

Devon, same question to >> Yeah, you know, I would agree with what you but also because we've seen such a seismic shift in and where people are voting, what no one seems to hard aligned to anyone right now, especially black people.

see people go into City Hall, you know, say of Chicago's going red, Black, Chicago's go red.

So I think debts.

that has has been the case nationwide.

And I think that's why you're seeing a hyper focus on black men, black women and even on other groups young people.

I'm a millennial myself.

So so we are all over the place with who were supporting saw.

I think that people are done with the old alignments and allowing political parties to take advantage of them.

>> Gary, you and your wife.

You started the billboard campaign.

We got votes in the spring in a world that has gone digital.

Why did you choose this tactic to reach out to the to the younger voters that that we're talking about?

Yeah, well, I think there's plenty of people in the program in the party.

They're doing the digital campaigns.

But world school.

>> And what we knew we had to do was couple things, one, reach out to black men to give them an invitation.

>> We think that the billboard campaign only identify them got a chance to celebrate them.

These guys are seeing themselves.

We picked up these likely logo weeks.

She's gotta have So it's kind of a cute of logo and slogan.

We hope not voting is not an option becomes a mandate.

And then my way came up with we can't go back 4 months ago and the Democratic Convention kicked it up?

I guess great minds think alike.

making it a billboard makes a celebration of these guys.

We knew that we had to do images.

And we have 3 different images and we hope at least half of the what population of young men see themselves and one of those.

But more importantly of young black.

Yeah.

Like the board hoping that that appeal to more importantly their family see them and celebrate them.

>> Devin, last time you joined us, he said that one of the most concerning issues for black men was the was.

>> We're financial issues, lack of economic growth among the community since then by Vice President Harris has come out with opportunity agenda for black men.

Do you think that addresses your concerns at all?

>> I don't think I think that many of us feel like if it was going to be done, it would have already been done or rolled out sonar.

So I think people are still looking at at other options.

And again, you know, it's not just Vice President Harris is an entire apparatus on one side or the other that people I I looking to to break.

And again, that's why you're seeing this.

This shift of of of a sizable minority of people who are looking at other options.

So yesterday Harris did an interview with radio host Charlamagne the God and they asked her to speak on the topic of whether black men are supporting or he's a listen.

>> I mean, I was just it's a barbershop Philly talking with very incredible and distinguished men who are leaders in their community and small business and education.

And these men, these black men were talking about not only their support for me, but most importantly, to support from my but back what we can do that lit up the community and happened to the ambitions and the aspiration.

>> you think are messaging these last few weeks has reached the voters that she needs to reach?

I think she's really come on strong.

>> I'm really excited about the 3 million new homes being Now with that, bring the cut, the supply will bring the cost of housing down.

But if done right, it really will be a great opportunity for black men to become a bill could literally building the homes of their community.

>> A recent NAACP poll, as we mentioned, found that the likelihood that black men under 50 years old will vote for Trump has decreased from 27 to 21%.

And the likelihood for Harris has increased from 51 to 59%.

Now, I think we've all.

Questioned validity of our polls in recent But Devin, what do you make of this?

What you think that is?

>> You know, I think I want to see what questions were asked.

I will haven't seen the science behind this or what they what they actually asked.

I don't.

>> think as I have talked to people on on the ground, vice President Harris goes to barber shops.

I go to barber shops.

I go to different places.

>> And there's sizable minority of of black man who are not voting for, you know, and and so weathers.

21% or 29%.

That's still a significant amount of people that that are rejecting one of the policies of Trump's that you think will be helpful for black men, the black community and what what is the tracks?

>> Them I think people trust his his economic policies, those that are voting for him, trust economic policies because of what they saw in his 4 years.

As as president people saw more money in their pocket, they saw the ability to be able to for things like gas for their cars, utilities and their homes, groceries, basic basic And we have not seen that under the last 3 and a half almost 4 years.

>> Guerrier slogan, States not voting is not an option.

That's on the bottom part of your But there's some folks who might still be planning to withhold.

Maybe they are just not comfortable with either of these candidates.

What do you say to them?

>> We've got to change that.

You know, we have got to understand that voting gives us a place sit at the table.

I'm not only here in the national election, but in the local elections.

We're we look up and find out that the state legislatures have given our rights away have restricted our children.

So hopefully this is just the beginning.

It has to be a mandate and I hope this becomes a legacy and not just a campaign slogan.

We know that polled the race has been extremely tight with just got a few seconds left But what do you think it is that holding her back from being able to tip this election in her favor?

>> I think she's got I think our guys didn't want to be taken for granted.

But once they get in the booth and this campaign was competing to get that in the there's no choice.

There's only one choice.

>> Only one choice on, you know, both candidates gave their final pitches last night.

What would you like to hear from them the first?

>> You know, I think this is a you know, we've heard all that we can hear.

Now it's up us to take whose values we we aligned with and actually vote.

And I think people are are taking this very seriously this time.

Okay?

I think so.

That's a good place to leave