A FATAL POLICE SHOOTING PROMPTS LOTS OF QUESTIONS [ music ] >> WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD.

THE SHOOTING OF PREGNANT BLACK WOMAN HAS REIGNITED PROTESTA OVER THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE.

SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT --A POLICE OFFICER SHOT AND KILLED 21-YEAR-OLD TYLER YOUNG OUTSIDE OF A SUPERMARKET.

POLICE CONFRONTED YOUNG AFTER A STORE EMPLOYEE ACCUSED HER OF STEALING ALCOHOL.

--IN A PARKING LOT.

THE DAY AFTER THE SHOOTING, THE POLICE CHIEF SAID THEY COMMANDED TO GET OUT OF THE CAR BEFORE SHOOTING.

>> THE WOMEN PUT THE CAR IN GEAR AND WENT FORWARD.

THE OFFICER WAS DIRECTLY IN THE PATH OF THE ONCOMING CAR WITH ONE SHOT THROUGH THE FRONT WINDSHIELD.

WITH BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE THAT I REVIEWED, AND ALSO CONFIRMS THE OFFICER WAS DIRECTLY IMPACTED THE CAR.

>> IT TOOK ANOTHER WEEK FOR POLICE TO RELEASE THAT BODY CAMERA IMAGE OF THE SHOOTING.

[ inaudible -low volume ] >> [ INAUDIBLE -OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> GET OUT OF THE CAR.

GET OUT.

GET OUT OF THE CAR!

[ bleep ] >> REFUSING TO OF THE OFFICER STATING A STATE LAW THAT -- FOR MURDER.

DID YOU WATCH THAT VIDEO?

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> OF COURSE, MY HEART AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE YOUNG FAMILY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS SO OFTEN, UNFORTUNATELY.

IN OUR COMMUNITY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY.

RESTING THIS PLAY OUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND THE QUESTION MANY PEOPLE HAVE IS SHOPLIFTING.

WHAT OTHER COMMAND THAT THAT PERSON IS NOT FOLLOWING?

IS THAT WORTH THEIR LIFE?

THERE HAS TO BE OTHER DECISIONS MADE BY OFFICERS WHEN THEY ARE IN THOSE POSITIONS.

WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH EVIDENCE AND CASE STUDIES AND LOTS OF LITERATURE, WHEN OFFICERS ARE FACED WITH WHITE PEOPLE, THEY CHOOSE OTHER OPTIONS.

NOT SHOOTING TO KILL.

AND IN THAT CASE, I MEAN, -- SOMETHING.

THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE IS ASKING.

WHY COULD YOU HAVE NOT HAVE AIMED AT A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CAR?

>> I THINK THIS IS A HUGE TRAGEDY.

I AM NOT THE PRO INVESTING IN TRAINING.

AND I THINK IT IS DEVASTATING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE VIDEO.

THIS WOMAN IS TURNING AND -- EXTREMELY TO THE RIGHT TO AVOID THE OFFICER.

AND THE TWO [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] WITH THE OFFICER, HE WAS AND PRESENT DANGER.

AND SECONDLY, WHEN ANOTHER OFFICER IN HIS POSITION, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SET A --WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEO AND YOU SEE HER TURNING AWAY FROM THE OFFICER.

>> YOU SAID FORCED POLICY.

WITH FORCED -- TAKING REASONABLE STEPS.

USING THE FORCED POLICY.

[ inaudible -low volume ] ONE FEASIBLE APPLICATION TOOK REASONABLE STEPS TO MOVE OUT OF THE PATH OF AN APPROACHING VEHICLE INSTEAD OF DISCHARGING THEIR FIREARM AT THE VEHICLE OR ANY OF ITS OFFICERS.

OFFICERS SAID ONLY DISCHARGE A FIREARM AT A MOVING VEHICLE OR --WHEN THE OFFICER USED -- THERE ARE NO OTHER REASONABLE MEANS AVAILABLE TO [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] WITH THE THREAT OF THE VEHICLE OR IF DEADLY FORCE IS DIRECTED AT THE OFFICER OR OTHERS.

TO NOT SHOOT UP THE CAR.

SO BEING UP TO A JOB, LOOKING TO THE SIDE.

WAS IT A CRIMINAL ACT?

>> RIGHT.

AND --HAS SEEN THESE INCIDENTS SO MANY TIMES.

MAYBE IT WAS ONLY A CRIMINAL -- WITH THE OFFICER HAVING A MOMENT OF, I DON'T WANT TO BE THE NEXT WHITE OFFICER TO SHOOT A BLACK VICTIM AND THEN HABITS BE [ INAUDIBLE -MUFFLED ] IT COULD BE ANY KIND OF PUNISHMENT, WHATEVER.

AND I KNOW THAT UNIONS ARE, YOU KNOW, DEFENDING THEIR MEMBERS.

THEY ARE PROTECTING PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THEY NEED TO BE THERE.

YOU KNOW, THE DECISIONS THAT ARE AT A GRANT LEVEL.

WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE TO REALLY -- HERE?

>> AND LOOKING BACK, AT THIS VIDEO, IT INDICATES SHE TOOK ALCOHOL FROM THE STORE WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT.

SHE WAS GETTING OUT OF THE CAR.

AND --ESCALATED THE SITUATION.

>> WELL, I DO NOT THINK, THESE ARE CRIMES OF POVERTY, RIGHT?

WE SAW THIS HAPPEN WITH GEORGE FLOYD.

YOU KNOW, WITH A FAKE $20 BILL.

I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS WHAT SHE DID.

IT WAS NOT WORTH HER LIFE.

AND WHEN WE PAY OFFICERS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND KEEP US SAFE, THERE HAS TO BE A LINE OF RESPECT THERE.

AND RESPECT FOR LIFE.

I THINK IN THIS SITUATION, THE OFFICER DID NOT RESPECT HER LIFE.

I MEAN, BEFORE THEY HAD VIDEO, THE OFFICERS WERE INFORMED SHE MAY HAVE BEEN SHOPLIFTING.

IT WAS NOT EVEN AS IF THEY WATCHED HER DO IT.

THEY DO NOT HAVE ACTUAL PROOF AT THAT MOMENT.

AND STILL, HE PULLED THE TRIGGER.

DOES THE CONSEQUENCES.

WHENEVER THESE OFFICERS DO NOT OFFICERS, EVEN IF THEY DO NOT HAVE HEAT IN THEIR HEART, THEY ARE NOT TRAINED OR, YOU KNOW, THEY DO NOT FEEL THE NEED TO THINK DIFFERENTLY WHEN THEY ARE IN THESE SITUATIONS.

>> GETTING BACK TO --THE SHOOTING HAPPENED ON A THURSDAY.

THE POLICE CHIEF STATEMENT WAS TAKEN THE NEXT DAY.

IT TOOK A DAY TO MAKE A STATEMENT.

THE WOMAN --ASSIMILATED WITH AN ONCOMING CAR.

THE OFFICER WAS DIRECTLY IN THE PATH OF THE CAR.

A WEEK LATER, THAT SHE WAS ACCELERATING HER CAR TOWARD THE OFFICER.

IT WAS SLOWLY ROLLING TOWARD THE OFFICER, CORRECT?

WHAT DO YOU SEE IT TO BE?

>> IT IS NOT ONLY FOR DRILLING.

BUT AS I SAID, SHE WAS ACTIVELY TURNING THE WHEEL AWAY FROM THE OFFICER.

I THINK WHAT THE --AND THE POLICE OFFICER, IT IS INCUMBENT UPON THEM.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE THERE WAS CLEAR DANGER AND A REASONABLE OFFICER WOULD HAVE PULLED A GUN.

I THINK A -- CAN SEE THE TRUTH.

WE HAVE A VIDEO AND A YOUNG WOMAN WHO WAS PREGNANT.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR BREAKING THE LAW, REGARDLESS OF YOUR SKIN COLOR.

WE HAVE LAWS.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RESPECTING THEM.

BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS, REASONABLE FORCE.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS, IT IS NOT REASONABLE FORCE.

I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD FOR THE OFFICERS AND THE UNION TO PROVE THAT.

>> [ INAUDIBLE -MUFFLED ] SITUATIONS.

THE CAR WAS PARKED, BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO BLOCK HER IN WITH HER BODY, IT SEEMS.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT HAPPENS DID HE PLACE HIMSELF IN [ inaudible -muffled ] >> WILL QUICKLY.

POLICE ARE NOW USING THE --TO SHIELD OFFICER'S NAMES.

IS THAT HOW THE LAW -- >> I DO NOT THINK, NO.

I THINK WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A NARRATIVE ABOUT CRIMES, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE CIVILIANS BEING ATTACKED.

OR ASCENDED UPON BY OTHER CIVILIANS.

NOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THEY ARE TRYING TO INFLUENCE.

>> THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

MY GUESS, IT WILL BE CHALLENGING --OUR NEXT TOPIC.

[ inaudible -low volume ] THIS WEEK, AGAINST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS.

-- THAT CLAIMED THE NATURAL -- THE PRIORITY TO THE UPCOMING ELECTION.

[ inaudible -low volume ] PRETTY WELL THEY ARE AHEAD OF HER THEY WERE -- >> [ laughter ] YES, DEFINITELY.

I THINK IT IS A SITUATION WITH VOTING LAST YEAR.

IT IS THAT THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND IN THEIR OWN SYSTEM, THEY HAVE [ INAUDIBLE -MUFFLED ] SO THERE WAS 25%, OR THIRD.

YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS NOT BAD FOR THEM.

AND THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE MAKEUP OF THE CITY COMMISSION, WHICH IS IDENTICAL.

THE MAKEUP OF SUPERIOR COURT WHICH IS [ inaudible -muffled ] AND THEN COULD NOT GET IT ENFORCED LAST TIME.

FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE, THEY ARE FIGHTING A WINNING ONE.

>> IS THERE A CHANCE WITH THE MAXIMUM?

[ INAUDIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] >> I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE LAWS HERE.

WHAT THAT TELLS US IS --AND THE DEMOCRATS.

SCREAMING UP AND DOWN THAT -- THEY ARE TRULY HAVING A CHANGE OF HEART.

SOME OF THE DIVERSION IS COMING OUT OF THE SYSTEMS IN COURT.

WE HAVE A BALANCED DECISION WITH THE U.S. SUPREME COURT AND THE HIGHER SUPREME COURT FOR THEY ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF LAW.

SO IT IS VERY INTERESTING TO SEE THE HYPOCRITICAL NATURE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WHAT THE PUBLIC IS DOING IS RIGHT.

IT WAS CONSTITUTIONAL.

THERE TRYING TO CREATE TRANSPARENCY WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT TODAY.

>> THEY WILL HAVE TO --BECAUSE [ INAUDIBLE - MUFFLED ] >> THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT IS STILL HEAVILY GERRYMANDERED.

LOOK AT COLUMBUS, FOR EXAMPLE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY LIVE IN THE COLUMBUS REGION.

CINCINNATI, --COUNTY IN THAT DISTRICT, RIGHT?

THEY STILL LOVE OTHER PARTS IN THERE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN TOTALITY, IT IS STILL VERY MUCH GERRYMANDERED.

BUT TO THE POINT, DEMOCRATS RAN A FEW OF THOSE SEATS.

AND IT WAS A BATTLE WITH -- WE HAVE SEEN RECENT REPORTS COME OUT ON HOW THOSE DISTRICTS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN CINCINNATI AND THE --DISTRICT.

THIS PROCESS EVEN STILL.

>> THE COMMISSION MEETS THIS WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE LAST TIME BEFORE THE ELECTION OF 2022 TO EXPECT THEM TO CHANGE THE [ inaudible -low volume ] >> WELL, HONESTLY, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.

THAT PARTICULAR MAP HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TWICE.

IT WAS SHOT DOWN TWICE.

BUT THE ARGUMENT OF THE REPUBLICANS HAS BEEN, THE USUAL CRITERIA IN THAT CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.

AND MAUREEN O'CONNOR, THAT IS JUSTICE [ inaudible -muffled ] SETTING THE BAR HIGHER AND HIGHER.

SEND IT BACK AND MORE SYMPATHETIC.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHO IS --ON THIS?

>> I DO NOT KNOW.

A JUDGE BEFORE.

AND THEY ALSO KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IN COURT, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT JUSTICE SHOWS UP.

IT MIGHT BE --WAS BETTER, YOU KNOW.

OF THE CONSTITUTION IN CERTAIN CASES.

THE CONSTITUTION IF THERE IS A COVER-UP FROM OTHER JUSTICES.

>> OKAY, WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

MOVING QUICKLY WITH THE PRIMARY WHICH IS CREEPING UP ON US THAT IT IS GOOD TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO RUN.

HAVING TO CONVINCE --OKAY, WITH LABOR DAY BEHIND US, THE --OF 2023 WILSON BEGAN.

ISSUE NUMBER ONE ON THE BALLOT AND IN THE MINDS OF HIGHER VOTERS IS THE PROPOSED FIRST RIGHT AMENDMENT.

THAT WOULD --ABORTION RIGHTS IN THE CONSTITUTION.

VIABILITY.

--WENT TO COURT.

THE DECISION TO REWRITE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE.

[ inaudible -low volume ] UNBORN CHALLENGE -- CHILD.

THERE IS AN 8% INCREASE IN THE --PERFORMANCE SINCE 2020.

[ inaudible -muffled ] MARCH LARGER INCREASES.

TWO DEMOCRATS AND IDOLIZE.

THEY HAVE A GOOD SHOT IN THIS CASE.

>> WELL, I CAN ONLY USE THE -- THE TERMS OF THAT LANGUAGE OF NOT OBJECTIVE ENOUGH.

AND I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD [ inaudible -muffled ] IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE PRETTY FAR -- THE PROPOSED DIALOGUE [ inaudible -muffled ] WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY MIGHT SAY?

BUT THERE IS THAT PRESIDENT.

OF WAYS THE THRESHOLD IS PROCESSED AT 50%.

A CHALLENGE THAT INFRINGES ON THE --THE LANGUAGE TO MORE LOADED LANGUAGE.

THIS JUST, EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO DEFEAT THIS PROPOSAL.

>> I THINK IT IS DEBATED UPON ITS MERIT.

WE WOULD CALL THIS ANTI---AMENDMENT.

IT IS ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN ABORTION.

THE ACLU AND --GROUPS ARE TRYING TO --THEY WANT TO [ inaudible -muffled ] UNDER SURGERY.

AND JUST THIS WEEK, THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN, UNDER ORGANIZATION IN THE UNITED STATES HAS COME OUT AND SAID THAT THEY OPENLY SUPPORT ISSUE ONE.

THEY WANT REPRODUCTIVE CARE FOR MINORS, CROSS GENDER, WE HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG SINCE DAY ONE, THERE SHOULD BE PARENTAL CONSENT, BUT THIS IS TRULY ABOUT ABORTION.

AMBIGUITY ON PURPOSE.

THE RIGHTS TODAY.

SO I DO NOT BELIEVE WE CAN ARGUE ANYTHING ON THE MERIT TODAY.

WE CONSTANTLY HAVE A BACKUP FROM THE LAST THING.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT PARENTAL RIGHTS.

THIS WEEK, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN IS ACTIVELY ENGAGING WAR AGAINST ALL PARENTS IN OHIO.

>> WELL, WHAT ASPECT IS THIS?

THIS IS DEAFLY ABOUT MORE THAN OPEN OCEAN.

IT IS ABOUT FAMILY PLANNING AND WOMEN HAVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE BUT IT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN HOSPITALS WHEN A WOMAN NEEDS TO HAVE A MEDICATED ASSISTED ABORTION IF IT IS NO LONGER VIABLE?

THIS IS ABOUT POSITIONS IN THEIR SPACE FEELING COMFORTABLE PERFORMING ABORTIONS AND NOT BEING RIDICULED OR ATTACKED FROM THE STATE OR THEY COULD LOSE THEIR LICENSE OR WORSE, BE IN PRISON.

THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL FOR FAMILIES.

>> THAT IS WHY IT IS COMPLICATED DEMOCRATS WON.

IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN JUST DEMOCRATS BUT IT WAS A BROAD COALITION.

THE DEMOCRATIC ISSUE ONE THAT BECAUSE ABORTION UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT MEANS FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND HOUSEHOLDS.

>> THAT --TO BE CHALLENGED UNDER THIS AMENDMENT.

BUT THE ROOTS OF JUSTICE WITH TRANSGENDER AND [ INAUDIBLE - MUFFLED ] RIGHT?

>> RIGHTS.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT ONE STORM OF TRANSGENDER CARE WHICH WOULD BE --FERTILITY TREATMENT.

AND SOMETIMES, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A TRANSGENDER SURGERY, [ inaudible -muffled ] LIKE THAT.

SO THEY CAN STILL HAVE CHILDREN.

BUT FOR MOST OF THE --I HAVE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW REPRODUCTIVE CARE, IN THE LEGAL SENSE, REPRODUCTION.

[ inaudible -muffled ] A PREGNANCY.

OR SAVING A PREGNANCY IN THE CASE OF, YOU KNOW, WOMEN IN -- >> [ inaudible -muffled ] BECAUSE THEY ARE HEAVILY DESCRIPTIVE.

AN 8% INCREASE WHICH IS --BUT STILL, AN INCREASE.

AND THAT IS WITH ABORTIONS AND -- >> YET.

UNFORTUNATELY, WOMEN IN OTHER STATES AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FLEE TO ACCESS THE SERVICES AND CARE THEY NEED, OFTEN LIFE- SAVING CARE.

I HAVE TO STOP IN OHIO TO GET THAT.

I WILL TELL YOU, WE HEARD FROM OUR SITE AT MORRIS.

OHIOANS ARE TRAVELING TO MICHIGAN FOR CARE.

WE HAVE THIS ISSUE WHERE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, AND HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY.

AND THEN WITH HEALTHCARE SERVICES AND SPACES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE THEY CAN GET THE CARE THEY NEED.

A LOT OF TRAUMA.

SO I THINK EVEN THE ANTIABORTION ADVOCATES USE THIS IS TO TELL STORIES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEALTHCARE AND OTHER STATES.

THE SAME WHERE IN HEALTHCARE IN AMERICA AND CANADA [ INAUDIBLE -MUFFLED ] >> ABORTION RIGHTS.

WITHOUT A BIT STRONG TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE [ inaudible -low volume ] >> SHOPPING FOR A SPACE SOMEWHERE.

TRULY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MICHIGAN TODAY, THEY PASSED ACCESS TO ABORTION FOR ACCESS.

WE DO NOT HAVE -- THIS JUST BECOME A DEMOCRAT REPRESENTATIVE HAS PUT ON A LEGISLATIVE EFFORT TO ABOLISH ALL --FOR WOMEN.

SO THEY ARE ILLUSTRATING JUST BASIC EVEN HEALTHCARE NEEDS.

24-HOUR --PERIODS.

CONSENT OF GETTING RID OF -- RIGHTS FOR THAT IS NOT WHAT [ inaudible -muffled ] WE WANT TO BE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT.

WE ALSO WANT CHARACTER CONSENT BUT WE WANT TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN FROM WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE LARGEST GROUP, HUMANS RIGHT CAMPAIGN, COMING AFTER HER CHILDREN.

A PRESCHOOL LEARNING ABOUT TRANSGENDER IDEOLOGY.

THESE ARE THE SAME GROUPS THAT [ inaudible -muffled ] WE DO NOT NEED THEM IN OUR STATE.

WE DO NOT NEED IT -- >> [ INAUDIBLE -OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> THEY ARE ADVOCATING FOR PRESCHOOLERS TO READ BOOKS THAT ARE --YOU KNOW WHAT?

BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME INITIATIVE IN FLORIDA.

LET ME TELL YOU, IN FLORIDA, THEY ADDED A STATE LEGISLATOR --OF CONSENT.

WHERE'S CONSENT, OHIO?

WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR FAMILIES.

>> [ inaudible -muffled ] >> THIS IS A HEAT ISSUE.

IT IS VERY TO EASY TO UNDERSTAND BUT I THINK DEMOCRATS IN OHIO HAD A HUGE VICTORY IN NOVEMBER.

THEY WON A MASSIVE FLOOR WITH --BECAUSE THE KITCHEN TABLE ISSUE IS VERY EASILY EXPLAINABLE.

PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES IN THE HOSPITAL ROOM.

>> NO DOUBT.

MAKE IT A NEW NAME.

THE REVOLUTION HE WORE GENERAL, ANTHONY WAYNE.

ALSO KNOWN AS --WAYNE.

HE IS ALSO KNOWN FOR HIS FIGHT AGAINST NATIVE AMERICANS.

FROM OHIO.

ALONG CAUSE FOR THE NAME CHANGE.

THE GOVERNMENT IS [ INAUDIBLE -MUFFLED ] DID WE CHANGE THE NAME?

THINK WE ARE CONTINUING TO ALLOW THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND A LOT OF -- NOW IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY HONOR A MAN.

WE CAN -- TO BE IN OHIO.

JUST LIKE WE WOULD NOT HAVE UNITED STATES WITHOUT GEORGE WASHINGTON.

KNOWLEDGE IS THE TOOL OF OUR HEAD STREAM.

TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT IF WE CONTINUE TO RENAME SCHOOLS, PUBLIC PARKS, GETTING RID OF STATUES, ALLOWING OUR CHILDREN TO BE RENAMED IN SCHOOL BASED ON THEIR GENDER.

>> THE NATIVE AMERICANS [ inaudible -muffled ] GENERAL WAYNE.

>> GREAT.

AND THE ISSUE, AS WELL, IN TERMS OF THESE MODERN TIMES IS THAT AMERICAN INDIAN TRIBES WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH -- FOR SOME, IT IS THE TREATY.

THE RELATIONSHIP FOR [ inaudible -muffled ] DO WANT TO HAVE AMERICA WITH THE GENERAL'S NAME ON IT >> AND THE FOREST SERVICES TALKING ABOUT WHAT, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS PAYING FOR.

THESE REPRESENTATIVES TO HAVE TO ENGAGE AND MENTION THE NAME EVERY TIME THEY DO A SERVICE.

>> >> [ inaudible -low volume ] THE WORD NATIVE AMERICANS.

SHOULD WE TEACH PEOPLE OR SHOULD WE CHANGE THE NAME?

>> WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY CHANGE THE NAME.

YOU CAN STILL CHANGE THE NAME AND TEACH HISTORY, RIGHT?

WE DO NOT HAVE TO HONOR DICTATORS.

WE DO NOT HAVE TO HONOR PEOPLE WHO DID NOT HONOR PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME.

NO, I DO NOT LIKE TO BE REMINDED EVERY TIME I WALK INTO A ROOM OR BUILDING A LOOK AT A STATUE OF SOMEONE --OR WORSE.

I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN ABOUT THE HISTORY SO IT DOES NOT REPEAT ITSELF, BUT WE DO NOT NEED TO HONOR THAT TRAVESTY.

>> [ INAUDIBLE -MUFFLED >> YES.

UPCOMING THIS FALL IS --I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE SPACE WITH OUR NEW QUARTERBACK.

AND SEE WHAT EXCITEMENT WE GET HERE BETWEEN THE --AND CINCINNATI.

>> OKAY.

>> I WAS GOING TO ECHO THAT.

WE'RE TALKING FOOTBALL BEFORE WE STARTED.

I THINK THE HIGHEST --IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH --THIS YEAR.

>> THE DISCUSSION, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A LOT MORE EXPLAINING OF THE -- >> [ laughter ] >> MONTHS AND MONTHS OF IT.

>> YEAH.

THE GREAT PLAINS WE HOPE.

IT WILL ALSO BE FILLED WITH A LOT OF --MY PREDICTION IS THE GENERAL --[ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] OF PENNSYLVANIA.

I THINK HE WILL HAUNT THE -- THAT IS MY PREDICTION.

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