>>> CAMPAIGN 2022 INTENSIFIES.

WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD.

FIVE WEEKS OF SUMMER REMAIN, BUT THE FALL CAMPAIGNS HEATED UP THIS WEEK.. FIRST TO THE GOVERNOR'S RACE THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION'S PAC IS SPENDING A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON A TV AD ATTACKING DEMOCRAT NAN WHALEY.

A CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER ANALYSIS OF THE DONOR POOL FOR THAT GROUP SHOWS A LOT OF BIG OHIO DONORS CONTRIBUTED.

THAT GROUP INCLUDES DEWINE APPOINTEES TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.. NAN WHALEY CONTINUES TO RUN INTRODUCTORY ADS.

STATE DEMOCRATS RELEASED AN INTERNAL POLL THAT SHOWS WHALEY BASICALLY TIED WITH DEWINE.

EMERSON COLLEGE ALSO RELEASED A POLL THIS WEEK THAT SHOWED DEWINE UP BY 16 PERCENTAGE POINTS.

THAT IS WHERE THE RACE HAS BEEN THROUGH THE SUMMER.

HERB ASHER, WHICH ONE DO YOU BELIEVE?

>> I AM ALWAYS SKEPTICAL IN TERMS OF POLLS.

LET'S START WITH THE EMERSON POLL, LET'S ASSUME THE GOVERNOR DOES HAVE A DOUBLE-DIGIT LEAD AND NAN WHALEY IS THE UNDERDOG .

WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR HER TO WIN?

THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THE EMERSON POLL IS THE GOVERNOR IS AT 49%.

THIS IS A LONG TIME OHIO POLITICIAN.

EVERYONE KNOWS WHO HE IS.

HE IS AT 49 .

IT IS ONLY A TWO CANDIDATE RACE.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN PULL OUT OF THAT.

THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE MAJOR NEWS ABOUT HOUSE BILL SIX , CORRUPTION, SCANDAL, THE REPORTERS HAVE A LOT OF INTERESTING STORIES.

>> THE POLL SHOWS THAT 36% OF THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE NEVER HEARD OF NAN WHALEN.

IS THAT GOOD NEWS OR BAD NEWS?

SHE CAN STILL INTRODUCE HERSELF, BUT IT IS GETTING KIND OF LATE.

>> THAT WOULD BE MY ASSESSMENT AS WELL.

WE ARE A COUPLE WEEKS OUT FROM LABOR DAY.

THE TRADITIONAL KICKOFF FOR THE CAMPAIGN IS WAY EARLIER THAN THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AN IMPRESSION.

WE ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO TALKING ABOUT MAKING A SALE.

A POLITICIAN WHO HAS BEEN ON THE BALLOT SINCE THE 1970S.

SHE HAS A LONG WAYS TO GO.

>> ONLY 1% HAVE NEVER HEARD OF MIKE DeWINE.

I WONDER WHO THEY ARE?

>> THAT BRINGS INTO DEEPER RELIEF THAT THE FAVORABLE SIDE OF HIM AND IT.

THAT MAKES IT ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT.

>> HE HAS THE SAME FAVORABILITY RATING, ABOUT ONE POINT ADVANTAGE OVER JOE BIDEN NATIONALLY.

>> PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE HIM WILL STILL NOT LIKE HIM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE'S A PRIMARY OR NOT.

AS IT POINTS OUT, 16 POINTS UP RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE IN IT FITZGERALD TERRITORY.

THIS WILL BE A MONUMENTAL VICTORY FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY .

WE WILL GET INTO THAT AS WELL.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS MY JOB TO KNOW THE NAME OF THE DEMOCRATS .

IF YOU ASK ME RIGHT NOW I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE NOMINEES ARE FOR THE OTHER STATE WIDE RACES.

>> WHAT DOES IT SAY THAT THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION IS SPENDING ALL OF THIS MONEY ON HER?

>> IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO SECURE THE MARGIN.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY HAPPEN, IF THEY REALLY DO HAVE REVELATIONS OF CORRUPTION TO THE VERY TOP OF THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT WILL BE SHE DOES NOT CONTROL THAT.

SHE WILL ALSO BENEFIT IF THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE CONTINUES TO DO CRAZY THINGS.

MY GUESS IS THEY WILL DO THEM AFTER THE ELECTION RATHER THAN BEFORE.

WHAT SHE REALLY NEEDS IS WHAT JD VANCE IS GETTING FROM MITCH McCONNELL AND OTHER REPUBLICANS.

SHE NEEDS A MASSIVE INFUSION OF FUNDS.

IF THERE'S A MAJOR OUTBREAK OF SCANDAL, YOU HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

SHE DOES NOT HAVE THAT.

>> SHE COULD TRACK DOWN TIM RYAN.

IF SHE DOES NOT KEEP A CLOSE.

>> THE DISTRICTING COMMISSION, ALL OF THOSE FUN FACTORS AS WELL.

ONES THAT CAME OUT THAT HE DID NOT HAVE A DRIVERS LICENSE, HIS FLAMES.

IT IS VERY UNSUCCESSFUL.

>> IT'S A DISASTER AND I DON'T SEE IT IN THAT KIND AWAY.

>> MIKE DeWINE HAS NOT RUN VERY MANY ADS.

MOST OF HIS ADS HAVE IN POSITIVE.

WILL THIS BE HIS STRATEGY WHERE HE LETS THE OUTSIDE GROUP TO THE NEGATIVE ADS.

>> I THINK ANY CAMPAIGN STAFFER WOULD GIVE HIM THAT ADVICE.

YOU ARE UP AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

TALK ABOUT INTEL FOR THE NEXT 45 TO 60 DAYS.

>> ANY NEW ADS TOUTING HIS BOLDNESS AT THE START OF THE COVID PANDEMIC?

>> PROBABLY NOT.

THERE IS PROBABLY NOT A REASON TO TALK ABOUT COVID.

WE ARE PAST IT SO I DON'T THANK YOU NEEDS TO DO THAT.

YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN OHIO WAS A NATIONAL HEADWINDS AGAINST US BUT WE ARE DOING PRETTY WELL.

>> WE HAVE A POSSIBLE INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE ALTHOUGH HE VOTED IN THE REPUBLICAN WILL NOT BE ON THE BALLOT COULD POSSIBLY PEEL AWAY CONSERVATIVE VOTES FROM MIKE DeWINE.

>> IT HAS TO HELP THEM.

ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

HE WOULD HAVE HEARD HIM OTHERWISE IF IT WAS GOING TO GET ANY CLOSER THAN THAT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT INTERESTING.

IT KIND OF DEPENDS.

THESE VOTERS MIGHT JUST GO AWAY.

THEY MIGHT NOT VOTE AT ALL.

THAT IS WHAT YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY ANECDOTALLY.

I DO NOT LIKE HIM AND I DON'T LIKE HER SO I WON'T VOTE AT ALL.

I THINK IT IS INTERESTING THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN VOTERS ON THIS AND THE ISSUE OF ABORTION COULD COME TO THE FLOOR AND BE CRITICAL GOING FORWARD.

IT JUST DEPENDS HOW IT IS PLAYED.

>> ABORTION IS ONLY 12%.

THE ECONOMY IS 50%.

GAS PRICES AND FOOD DRESSES AND INFLATION.

THAT IS WHAT MATTERS >> THAT IS NOT WHAT VOTERS ARE VOTING FOR.

>> SHOULD SHE JUST GO BOLD AND FOCUS ON THE ABORTION ISSUE?

IT IS A CLEAR DIVIDING LINE THROUGH THE CANDIDATES?

IT SHE IS A WOMAN.

>> I THINK AS HERB MENTIONED, THE LARGER SCANDAL IN OHIO HISTORY.

AS A PRO-CHOICE MAJORITY IN OHIO.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SUBTLETIES BUT JUST GENERICALLY SPEAKING, YES.

WE ARE NOT QUITE IN THE HAIL MARY STAGE YET.

LET'S FACE IT.

THERE ARE FEWER PEOPLE OUT THERE COVERING THIS RACE.

FREE MEDIA.

PEOPLE COVERING EVENTS AND GETTING THE WORD OUT .

THERE IS SOME SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT STILL THE TV ADS.

>>> IN THE RACE FOR U.S. SENATE, JD VANCE HAS NOT RAISED NEARLY AS MUCH MONEY AS TIM RYAN HAS, BUT NATIONAL REPUBLICANS ARE INVESTING IN VANCE.

A PAC CLOSEY TIED TO GOP SENATE LEADER MITCH McCONNELL PLANS TO SPEND UP TO $ 28 MILLION ON TV AND RADIO ADS.

THE ANNOUNCEMENT COMES AS AN EMERSON UNIVERSITY POLL SHOWS A TIGHT RACE.

WITH JD VANCE LEADING TIM RYAN 45% TO 42% --JUST WITHIN THE POLL'S MARGIN OF ERROR.

MIKE GONIDAKIS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HIS CAMPAIGN SO FAR?

>> SO FARK SO GOOD.

WAIT UNTIL PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION AFTER LABOR DAY.

THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES IN THE UNITED STATES.

TIM RYAN WON JULY 2022.

HE HAS HIT HIS HIGHEST POINT.

I ACTUALLY THANKED HIM FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE NOW THERE IS $28 MILLION THAT ARE COMING IN AFTER LABOR DAY WHEN PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO SUPPORT JD VANCE.

IT'S A MIDTERM ELECTION AND HE IS GOING TO WIN THE RACE.

YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE IF IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED ANYWAYS.

>> IT IS CLOSER THAN ANYBODY THOUGHT .

A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF MONEY COULD BE COMING IN THAT WAS NOT OTHERWISE EXPECTED FROM DEMOCRATIC SUPPORTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

>> TIM RYAN WON ROUND ONE.

THAT INFLUENCES VOTERS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

THE OHIO RACE IS NOW ON THE RADAR FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE $28 MILLION TO ZERO DOLLARS.

I DO NOT THINK HE HAS TO MATCH THE $28 MILLION OR WHATEVER BUT I THINK YOU WILL HAVE AMPLE FUNDS TO GET HIS MESSAGE OUT.

>> AND INTERVIEWS HE TRIED TO LOWER EXPECTATIONS OF REPUBLICANS QUITTING THE SENATE.

HE SAID WE HAVE A LOT OF FIRST- TIME CANDIDATES OUT THERE.

JD VANCE AMONG THOSE.

>> THE VERY FACT THAT REPUBLICANS THINK THEY HAVE TO POP $28 MILLION INTO OHIO AND ESTATE WERE TRUMP WON BY EIGHT POINTS TWICE AND ROB PORTMAN HAD NO TROUBLE IN HIS LAST REELECTION.

EVERYBODY IS SAYING, OHIO IS A RED STATE.

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT.

I AGREE WITH HERB.

I THINK TIM RYAN HAVE TO SPEND THAT.

TO GET THE CREDIBILITY OF THRESHOLD WITH DONORS AND ESPECIALLY THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.

THE OTHER THING THAT IS GOING WHAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD REALLY GOOD CHANCES IN PENNSYLVANIA AND OTHER STATES AND NOW IT IS MAYBE NOT LOOKING SO GOOD SO WE BETTER THROW A COUPLE SANDBAGS IN OHIO.

>> THEY DID WHAT NAN WHALEN KNEW SHE SHOULD HAVE DONE WHICH IS SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY.

>> MIKE GONIDAKIS, YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> JD VANCE HAS NOT RAISED A LOT OF MONEY.

MITCH McCONNELL IS HELPING HIM OUT.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A CANDIDATE NOT RAISE A LOT OF MONEY AND STILL BE SUCCESSFUL?

>> WE HAVE, BUT TRADITIONALLY SPEAKING NOW.

IF YOU CANNOT RAISE MONEY WITH YOUR FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, AND DONORS YOU WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL.

HE HAS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SUPPORT AND OHIO FIRMLY SUPPORTS PRESIDENT TRUMP.

I DO NOT SEE MIKE DeWINE HAVING A 16 POINT LEAD AND VOTERS WALKING INTO THE VOTING BOOTH AND SAYING I WILL VOTE FOR MIKE TIM RYAN.

>> A LOT OF IT COULD TAKE CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.

HE HAS HIT SOME APPROPRIATE THINGS.

COMMENTS ABOUT REPUBLICANS HAVING MANY FIRST-TIME CANDIDATES, THAT SHOWS A IN JD VANCE.

IS MAKING UNFORCED ERRORS PASSED ON THE CATCHING ON AREAS LIKE THESE STORIES.

>> THE ASSOCIATED PRESS REPORTED LATE THIS WEEK THAT HIS CHARITY WHICH WAS AIMED AT COMBATING THE OPIOID CRISIS IN SOUTHEASTERN OHIO AND APPALACHIA, HE HIRED A DOCTOR THAT GAVE THE EXCUSE THAT THE CRISIS WAS CAUSED BY OPIOID PRESCRIPTIONS .

THE CHARITY HAS GONE DARK AND TIM RYAN'S ADS HAVE BEEN POINTING IT OUT.

>> NOT ONLY THAT, THE DOCTOR HAS TIES TO PURDUE PHARMACY.

THE MAJOR MAKER OF OXYCONTIN.

THERE HAS BEEN REPORTING THAT THE DOCTOR VETTED HER PAPERS BEFORE PURDUE PHARMACY.

I THINK THERE ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS TO BE RAISED HERE.

AGAIN, IT IS SUCH AN ANTIQUATED VIEW NOW.

PAINKILLERS CAN LEAD TO OPIOID CRISIS?

I THINK OHIO HAS PRETTY MUCH PROVED THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

>> IT IS A WELL-DOCUMENTED GROUND ZERO.

JD VANCE SAID HE DID NOT KNOW.

HUMAN YOU APPOINTED THIS PERSON TO THIS FELLOWSHIP POSITION AND YOU DID NOT KNOW?

>> RESPECTFULLY WE HAVE 52,000 LICENSED PHYSICIANS AND NONE OF THEM WANTED TO GO HELP.

HE FINDS THE CREDENTIALED DOCTOR TO GO TO THAT IN A HER TO SPEND A YEAR OF HER LIFE DOWN THERE.

IT TOOK A LOT OF COUNTY LEADERSHIP DOWN THERE.

THE DOCTOR HELPED PEOPLE IN SOUTHERN OHIO ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS.

THEY ARE THANKFUL FOR HER PRESENCE.

SO WE COULD STAND HERE AND TAKE POT SHOTS AT PEOPLE.

SHE HELPED PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY.

THAT IS CREDIT FOR THAT.

>> I MERRILY WHAT SHE WILL BE DOING GOING FORWARD IS CREATING A SCHOLARSHIP FROM THIS.

IF IT IS A DISCOUNTED IDEA THAT BIG PHARMA WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE OPIOID CRISIS, THAT IS PROBLEMATIC TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING ATTENTION.

>> A LOT OF THE REST OF THE MONEY THAT WAS RAISED FOR THIS CHARITY WOULD GO TO FUTURE JD VANCE POLITICAL AIDES.

>> I THINK IT WILL STICK IF DEMOCRATS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT APPROPRIATELY AND I THINK THEY WILL.

THIS IS A CHARITY THAT SEEMS TO HAVE DONE SOME THINGS THAT REALLY DO NOT FAVOR THE PEOPLE IT IS DESIGNED TO HELP.

HAVING SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY WRITING REPORTS SAYING IT WAS NOT REALLY THIS DRUG COMPANY PHARMACEUTICAL REPRESENTATIVE, IT IS THE FAULT OF THE PEOPLE.

THERE IS A THEME LIKE THAT IN HILLBILLY ELEGY.

WHEN YOU READ IT, I GOT OUT OF HERE.

I MADE IT ON MY OWN.

PEOPLE DOWN HERE THEY ARE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT HARSH.

THEY DESERVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY BUT THIS WOMAN SEEMS TO BE SAYING -- >> HE IS SAYING THAT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY SHOULD COME FIRST.

>> IF I WAS HIM, I WOULD RUN AN AD WITH ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE IN LAWRENCE COUNTY.

WOULD SHOW ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I HELPED DOWN THERE.

THAT WOULD BE MORE POWERFUL THAN PURDUE PHARMA.

>> THE NEXT QUESTION, QUESTIONS CONTINUE ABOUT HOW ACTIVE THE DEWINE ADMINISTRATION WAS IN ITS SUPPORT OF THE NUCLEAR BAILOUT LAW.

THE LAW, KNOWN AS HB 6 LED TO THE INDICMENT OF FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER LARRY HOUSEHOLDER AND FOUR OTHERS.

TEXT MESSAGES INDICATE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR JON HUSTED WAS ACTIVELY INVOLVED EVEN THOUGH HE TOLD REPORTERS LAST LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

NOW HE AND GOVERNOR DEWINE SAY THEY ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE BAILOUT BUT LEFT THE DETAILS TO LAWMAKERS.

DARREL ROWLAND?

>> IT IS CREEPING CLOSER TO THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT IT IS STILL FAR FROM A SMOKING GUN.

THEY HAD REASONS TO SUPPORT IT BUT THEY DID NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG.

THE ANSWER THAT HUSTED GAVE CONFLICTED WITH THE TEXT MESSAGES.

>> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.

IT IS NOT NEW TO THEM.

THEY WERE THERE.

AS FAR AS VOTERS IN THE PUBLIC AND THE REST OF US, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVEMENT.

AS YOU SAY, NOT HUGE AND REVELATORY .

WE DO NOT THINK WE ARE PUBLIC OFFICIAL ONE OR PUBLIC OFFICIAL TWO WHICH IS THE VERBIAGE IN THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE SCANDAL.

NOW IT TURNS OUT THEY PROBABLY ARE.

THEY ACTUALLY ARE.

SO THE INVOLVEMENT, OKAY.

THEY ARE RELYING ON THEM WE NEED THEM TO DO BATTLEFIELD TRIAGE FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION OF OHIO TO REGULATE ALL OF THESE THINGS.

THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT HAS TO BE A LIABILITY.

>> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TRIALS AND CONSTITUTION .

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

THESE WERE NOT TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR AND THE DISGRACED FORMER CEO.

THIS WAS AN INTERNAL TEXT MESSAGE BETWEEN A DISGRACED CEO.

GOING BACK AND FORTH.

>> IT IS HEARSAY.

THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

YOU CANNOT CONTROL THAT.

>> THEY HAVE NOT DENIED THE ACCURACY.

>> THEY SAID THEY SUPPORT IT.

>> JOE BIDEN JUST SIGNED THE INFLATION SOMETHING ACTS.

>> HOW MUCH DID THEY GIVE WEST VIRGINIA?

>> HERE IS THE THING.

YOU SAID THEY DID NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG BUT THIS IS A CHECKS AND BALANCES SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN THE STATE.

USUALLY WHEN YOU ASK THE GOVERNOR ABOUT WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO SIGN A BILL OR NOT, HE HAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

HE DOES NOT SAY, I WILL LET THE LEGISLATURE HANDLE IT.

HE GUARDS THAT VERY CLOSELY .

HE USUALLY TAKES HIS TIME WITH SOME OF THE MOST BENIGN THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THIS GOES THROUGH THE OHIO GENERAL AND HE SIGNS IT THE DAY OR DAY AFTER THAT IT WAS PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

>> HE HAS LONG HELD TIES WITH HUSTED.

THEY HAVE BEEN FRIENDS FOR A LONG TIME.

IS WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF .

IT IS GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER.

RIGHT NOW, THE FEDS, THE U.S. ATTORNEY , TO STOP THE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE IT MAY INTERFERE WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING.

AGAIN, EVERYBODY IS TALKING THAT THERE WILL BE MORE INDICTMENTS.

THE QUESTION BECOMES WHO, WHAT, AND WHEN .

>> NO WAY.

>> THERE IS DOJ RULES THAT I THINK THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING WITHIN 60 DAYS OF AN ELECTION.

THAT IS WHY WHEN THERE WAS TALK ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON IN 2016 IT WAS SO EXTRAORDINARY.

>>> CENTRAL OHIO SCHOOL KIDS ARE EITHER BACK IN CLASS, OR WILL BE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.

WHILE SCHOOLS ARE MONITORING COVID CLOSELY AND SCRUBBING SURFACES, THE SCHOOL EXPERIENCE IS PRETTY MUCH BACK TO NORMAL.

BUT SCHOOLS ARE STRAINED.

THERE IS A TEACHER SHORTAGE.

THE LARGEST TEACHERS UNION IN OHIO SAYS THERE ARE 17,000 FEWER PEOPLE WORKING IN K-12 EDUCATION COMPARED TO THREE YEARS AGO.

NATIONALLY SOME 300,000 TEACHERS AND STAFF HAVE QUIT SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT, COLUMBUS SCHOOLS TEACHERS MAY STRIKE NEXT WEEK.

THE UNION IS LOOKING FOR 8% PAY RAISES EVERY YEAR FOR THREE YEARS.

THE SCHOOL BOARD OFFERS 3% PER YEAR.

ANN FISHER , ARE THE TEACHERS IN COLUMBUS TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MARKET RIGHT NOW?

THERE IS A SHORT SUPPLY OF TEACHERS SO ARE THEY TRYING -- 8% A YEAR IS PRETTY AMBITIOUS.

SPLIT THE MARKET.

IT HAS BEEN WHAT IT IS FOR A LONG TIME.

THERE'S BEEN A TEACHER SHORTAGE IN THE COUNTRY FOR 50 YEARS WHY IT IS BEING NOTICED AND HAS BECOME A STORY IS BECAUSE THESE WEALTHY SUBURBAN SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE EXPERIENCING THE TEACHER SHORTAGE NOW ALSO.

IT IS NOT ABOUT MONEY, NECESSARILY.

IT IS ABOUT OTHER THINGS.

THE LOCATE OF A TEACHER , THAT ISSUE IS ONLY EXACERBATED BY A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.

THINK A VERY TELLING THING IS THAT A FEDERATION OF TEACHERS DID A SURVEY VERY RECENTLY THAT SHOWS THAT 75% OR 74% WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THE JOB TO BECOMING A PROSPECTIVE TEACHER.

TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS IN THE 40% RANGE.

THAT FOLLOWS A MUCH MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM.

I DON'T THINK THEY ARE EXPLOITING.

I THINK THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO GET WHAT THEY DESERVE.

>> HERB ASHER, YOU TEACH >> WE ALL HOPE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE NORMALCY THIS YEAR.

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT SETTLEMENT IS, AND I THINK WE ALL HOPE THAT THE KIDS IN COLUMBUS WILL GO BACK TO SCHOOL UNDER REGULAR IN CLASSROOM TEACHING AND THAT WE NOT HAVE A STRIKE.

THE STRIKE WILL ADD ANOTHER ELEMENT OF INSTABILITY OR WHATEVER.

I DO THINK THE TEACHERS ARE DOING TWO THINGS.

CLEARLY THEY ARE TRYING TO GET WHAT THEY THINK IS THE APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION, AND THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE APPROPRIATELY OF A MARKET AND AN OPPORTUNITY.

I REALLY DO THINK THAT THIS IS THE YEAR IN WHICH WE NEED TO GET BACK TO AS MUCH NORMALCY AS WE CAN.

>> IF THERE IS A STRIKE, WHO TAKES THE BLAME?

THE UNION OR THE SCHOOL BOARD.

>> SHAME ON BOTH.

THESE ARE ADULTS AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT KIDS.

THEY SHOULD ALWAYS COME FIRST.

THE TEACHERS BECAUSE WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO THAT THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAVE GOTTEN?

THEY ARE MISMANAGING THE MONEY AT THE SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL WHEN IT SHOULD BE GOING TO TEACHERS.

I AM SYMPATHETIC TO THEIR PLIGHT.

WANT THEM IN SCHOOL IMMEDIATELY.

THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

WHERE IS THE MONEY?

>> AND WEEKS AND WEEKS WE KEPT HEARING IT WAS ALL ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING.

OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS WE FOUND OUT THEY WANTED AND 8% RAISE.

>> CONSIDERING, WE START SCHOOL SO EARLY NOW , I REALLY SYMPATHIZE WITH THE KIDS IN THE CLASSROOMS AND TEACHERS AND STAFF WHO EVER HAS TO WORK THERE ON THESE HOT AUGUST DAYS .

>> THE PARENTS WILL SYMPATHIZE WITH THE LACK OF AIR CONDITIONING .

THEY WANT THEIR KIDS TO BE COMFORTABLE.

>> THEY HAVE HAD A CHRONIC DO NOT PAY THEM ENOUGH , FOR ONE THING.

IT'S A CRUMMY PLACE TO WORK.

I HAD A PARENT, TODAY TO SAY THAT EVERY BUILDING THEIR CHILD HAS BEEN IN HAS AN UNDER MAINTAINED .

THEY LET THINGS GO AND THEY HAVE LET SLIDE.

YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE COVID MONEY.

WHY DON'T THEY HAVE AIR CONDITIONING IN EVERY SINGLE BUILDING?

>>> TIME FOR THE OFF THE RECORD PARTING SHOTS.

MIKE GONIDAKIS, YOUR NEXT.

>> THE NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF LAYOFFS COMING.

OVER HALF OF U.S. COMPANIES WILL BE LAYING PEOPLE OFF BEFORE THE END OF 2022.

THE FEDS WILL CONTINUE TO RAISE INTEREST RATES.

I AM NOT ROOTING FOR THIS.

IT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS, SAVE YOUR MONEY BECAUSE YOU WILL NEED IT.

>> AFTER FOUR YEARS OF FEDERAL AUTHORITY INVESTIGATING CLIFF ROSENBERGER, I BELIEVE THAT THE AUTHORITIES HAVE FOUND NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE AND THERE WILL SOON BE A VERY HAPPY ENDING OF THIS WHOLE EPISODE FOR CLIFF .

>> LIKE I SAID, I HAD A PARENT COMMITTED A .

THE WORD IS ACTING IN GOOD FAITH.

IN THE END THEY WILL SIDE WITH THE TEACHERS ON THIS.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT MOST OF THE COMMUNITY IS.

THAT MEANS THE BOARD IS UP FOR ELECTION.

NOT THE TEACHERS.

>> LAST FRIDAY WAS MY LAST DAY, NOT PLANNED .

THIS IS MY FIRST AND LAST APPEARANCE ON YOUR SHOW NOT AS A DISPATCH REPORTER.

FOR WHATEVER THE FUTURE BRINGS, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE OVER THE YEARS .

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT A GEM YOU HAVE HERE.

YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL TV NETWORKS TO SEE THE SHOUTING.

SERIOUS DISCUSSION ISSUES HERE .

WE HAVE A TREASURE HERE IN CENTRAL OHIO.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.

WE WILL MISS YOUR REPORTING AND CONTRIBUTION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MY FINAL COMMENT, THE FORMER W OSU NEWS DIRECTOR DON DAVIS DIED AT THE AGE OF 89 HE HELPED BUILD WHAT WE ARE TODAY.

PARTICULARLY THE NEWS DEPARTMENT HE EXPANDED THE DEPARTMENT AND HIRED BILL :.

HE PRODUCED 80 DOCUMENTARIES .

AFTER HE RETIRED HE AND HIS WIFE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT US AND MANY ARTS ORGANIZATIONS.

WE EXTEND OUR DEEPEST SYMPATHIES TO THE FAMILY.

>>> SO THAT IS IT FOR THIS WEEK.

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HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.