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TED: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE ON YESTERDAY'S NATIONAL ELECTIONS IN CANADA.

ALSO TONIGHT, THE LATEST ON BIRD FLU CONCERNS INCLUDING REPORTS OF CASES SPREADING TO HUMANS.

>>> AND A DEADLINE FOR REAL ID IS FAST APPROACHING.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR.

A WILDFIRE BURNING SOUTHEAST OF TUCSON FORCED EVACUATIONS, THE STRONGHOLD FIRE STARTED YESTERDAY MORNING AND CONTINUES TO MOVE THROUGH VEGETATION.

THE FIRE BURNED 2,000 ACRES AND COUNTING AND 0% CONTAINED.

COCHISE COUNTY ORDERED EVACUATIONS FOR AREAS WEST OF COCHISE STRONGHOLD.

ONE OUTBUILDING DESTROYED.

CAUSE OF THE FIRE IS YET UNKNOWN.

>>> OTHER HEADLINES, ARIZONA JOINED 21 OTHER STATES IN SUING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OVER THE PRESIDENT'S EXECUTIVE ORDER DISMANTLING AMERICORPS AN INDEPENDENT VOLUNTEER PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCY THAT ADDRESSES EDUCATIONAL, PUBLIC SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

SUIT CLAIMS THAT AMERICORPS IS AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS AND THUS THE PRESIDENT AND ELON MUSK HAVE NO LEGAL POWER TO GUT THE AGENCY.

>>> PRESIDENT TRUMP CHANGED COURSE ON TARIFF THREATS, REVERSING SOME OF THE TARIFFS HE IMPOSED ON IMPORTED CARS AND CAR PARTS.

STEEL AND ALUMINUM ON VEHICLES THAT ALREADY PAY A 25% TARIFF.

THE REVERSAL AFTER FORD, GM AND OTHERS COMPLAIN THE ADDED TARIFFS WOULD RAISE THE COST OF PRODUCTION AND BACKFIRE ON U.S. MANUFACTURING.

COMMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT HERE -- >> WE JUST WANTED TO HELP THEM DURING THIS LITTLE TRANSITION, SHORT TERM, AND DURING THIS LITTLE -- IF THEY CAN'T GET PARTS, IT HAS TO DO WITH A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE.

IF THEY CAN'T GET PARTS, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PENALIZE THEM, AND DURING, YOU HAVE A ONE-YEAR PERIOD AND AN EXTRA YEAR, BUT IT'S FOR VERY, VERY SMALL PART OF THE CAR.

BASICALLY THEY'RE PAYING 25%.

TED: THE MOVE AS GM TODAY REMOVED ITS ONCE SOLID FORECAST FOR PROFIT GROWTH THIS YEAR.

THE AUTOMAKER SAID WITH UNCERTAINTY CREATED BY THE PRESIDENT'S TRADE POLICIES, ANY PROFIT PREDICTION COULD BE A, QUOTE, GUESS.

>>> AND A DUSTUP BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND AMAZON TODAY.

THE ADMINISTRATION REACTED ANGRILY TO A REPORT THAT AMAZON WAS PLANNING TO SHOW CONSUMERS HOW MUCH TARIFFS ADDED TO THE PRICE OF ITEMS FOR SALE.

AMAZON SAID THE IDEA WAS NEVER CONSIDERED FOR MAIN SITE AND ONLY TALKED ABOUT FOR OFFSHOOT STORE CALLED AMAZON HAUL, BUT THE WHITE HOUSE WENT ON THE ATTACK -- >> I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THE PRESIDENT ABOUT AMAZON'S ANNOUNCEMENT.

THIS IS A HOSTILE AND POLITICAL ACT BY AMAZON.

WHY DIDN'T AMAZON DO THIS WHEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HIKED INFLATION TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN 40 YEARS?

I WILL NOT SPEAK TO THE PRESIDENT'S RELATIONSHIPS WITH JEFF BEZOS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS IS A HOSTILE AND POLITICAL ACTION BY AMAZON.

>> THE PRESIDENT'S RELATIONSHIP WITH AMAZON OWNER JEFF BEZOS IS ENOUGH THAT AMAZON IS EMPHASIZING IT HAS NO PLANS TO PUT TARIFF INFORMATION ON ANY PRICING.

>>> PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY AND LIBERAL PARTY WON YESTERDAY'S FEDERAL ELECTIONS IN CANADA, A STUNNING TURNAROUND, IN A RACE THAT SHOWED THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY LEADING IN OPINION POLLS BY AS MUCH AS 25%.

THE LIBERAL PARTY FELL SHORT OF WINNING OUTRIGHT MAJORITY IN PARLIAMENT BUT COUNTED MORE SEATS THAN CONSERVATIVES.

JOINING US IS JOHN VON HEYKING POLITICAL CHAIR OF THE SCIENCE DEPARTMENT AT UNIVERSITY OF LETHBRIDGE IN ALBERTA.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> GREAT TO JOIN YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

TED: WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS A DAY LATER, THOUGHTS ON WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY?

>> YEAH, THE POLLS TOLD US TO EXPECT THAT THE LIBERALS WOULD LIKELY WIN.

AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE CONSERVATIVES WERE AHEAD BY AS MUCH AS 25 POINTS BUT TWO THINGS HAPPENED IN JANUARY THAT CHANGED THE GAME.

THE FIRST WAS JANUARY 6 WHEN FORMER PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU, RESIGNED.

HE WAS HIGHLY UNPOPULAR AND AS EVENTS BORE OUT BY HIM RESIGNING AND MR. CARNEY REPLACING HIM AS PRIME MINISTER, LEADER OF THE LIBERAL PARTY, THAT CERTAINLY IMPROVED THE LIBERAL PARTY'S FORTUNES.

THE SECOND EVENT WAS INAUGURATION, JANUARY 20, OF MR. TRUMP AND HIS ACTIVITIES ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE VARIOUS ACTIVITIES CALLING FOR CANADA TO BE THE 51st STATE, WHICH WERE NOT RECEIVED WELL BY THE CANADIAN ELECTORATE, AND THEY RESPONDED, BY AND LARGE PART BY MOVING SUPPORT TO THE LIBERALS, BECAUSE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CANADIANS SAW MARK CARNEY AS THE BEST BET TO STAND UP TO MR. TRUMP.

TED: AS FAR AS SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS, THOSE SOCIAL MEDIA COMMENTS, WHAT WEIGHED MORE, TARIFFS, TALKS OF ANNEXATION?

WHAT REALLY HIT WITH CANADIAN VOTERS?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THEY HIT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO THE 51st STATE COMMENTS WERE KIND OF ILL RECEIVED BY CANADIANS AS A WOUND TO CANADIAN PRIDE, WHEREAS THE TARIFF TALK SCARED CANADIANS AND THEIR POCKETBOOKS, AND ESPECIALLY CANADIANS LIVING IN CENTRAL CANADA AROUND TORONTO, THE GREAT LAKES REGION, WHICH IS THE MANUFACTURING CORE OF THE CANADIAN ECONOMY, WHICH THE TARIFFS REPRESENTED THE GREATEST THREAT.

TED: INDEED.

IT'S INTERESTING, JOHN, THE TURNAROUND.

THE CONSERVATIVE LEADER, THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE, HE LOST HIS OWN SEAT.

THIS IS FROM A PARTY DOUBLE DIGITS AHEAD AND A QUICK TURNAROUND.

THAT REALLY IS SOMETHING.

>> YEAH, WELL, THE CONSERVATIVES DEFINITELY HAVE TO SPEND TIME IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS INVESTIGATING AND REVIEWING THEIR PERFORMANCE IN HOW THEY CAMPAIGNED.

I GOT TO POINT OUT TWO THINGS.

THE FIRST IS THAT THE CONSERVATIVES ACTUALLY VASTLY IMPROVED THEIR VOTE COUNT AND THEIR SEAT COUNT IN THE SELECTION FROM WHERE THEY WERE.

IN FACT, THEIR INCREASES WERE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE LIBERALS.

NOT ENOUGH TO WIN THEM THE ELECTION, MIND YOU, BUT THEY SHOWED THE GREATEST INCREASES AND THE INCREASES CAME A LOT IN THE REGION OF SUBURBS AROUND TORONTO, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST METROPOLITAN AREA IN CANADA.

WITH REGARD TO MR. POILIEVRE LOSING HIS RIDING, THAT'S HUMILIATING.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS TO THE LEADER OF A PARTY, THAT'S HUMILIATING, BUT PART OF THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE LARGE INCREASE IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES WHO LIVE IN THE OTTAWA REGION.

OTTAWA IS THE CAPITAL OF CANADA.

PIERRE POILIEVRE DID REPRESENT A RIDING IN THE OTTAWA REGION, AND I THINK JUST THE SHIFT IN DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF FEDERAL WORKERS ON THE GOVERNMENT PAYROLL THAT HAS REALLY INCREASED SINCE COVID.

TED: SO JOHN, WHO IS MARK CARNEY?

COMPARE HIM TO PIERRE TRUDEAU, AND THE LIBERALS DO NOT HAVE A MAJORITY IN PARLIAMENT?

WHAT ARE HIS CHALLENGES GETTING THINGS DONE?

>> HE'S GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES.

MARK CARNEY HAS GOT QUITE A RESUME.

THE FORMER BANK OF CANADA -- FORMER GOVERNOR OF THE BANK OF CANADA, FORMER GOVERNOR OF THE BANK OF ENGLAND, WHICH IS KIND OF UNUSUAL.

SO HE COMES WITH IMPRESSIVE RESUME WITH INTERNATIONAL FINANCE AND HELPING TO RUN COMPANIES LIKE BROOKFIELD, BUT THE CHALLENGES HE FACES ARE ONES THAT CANADIANS HAVE FACED OVER THE LAST DECADE, AND REALLY SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES THAT CANADIANS, THAT THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT HAD, SO ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE HAS BEEN DISAPPOINTING.

HIGH HOUSING PRICES HAS LEFT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF HOUSING MARKET.

AS A DATA POINT, THE AVERAGE HOUSE PRICE IN CANADA IS HIGHER THAN IT IS IN THE UNITED STATES, WITH AN AVERAGE ANNUAL INCOME LOWER AMONGST CANADIANS, SO THERE IS REAL ECONOMIC PROBLEMS.

ONE OF THE INTERESTING DATA POINTS IN SUPPORT FOR THE PARTY IS THAT THE CONSERVATIVES WERE GENERALLY MORE POPULAR AMONGST PEOPLE UNDER, SAY, 50 OR 45, AND PART OF THAT IS THAT THERE'S GROWING DISILLUSIONMENT AMONG YOUNGER PEOPLE ABOUT ECONOMIC PROSPECTS AND PROSPECTS OF OWNING A HOME.

I JUST SAW A STUDY THAT WAS RELEASED LAST WEEK THAT SHOWS THAT THE AVERAGE AGE WHERE SOMEBODY BUYS THEIR FIRST HOME IN CANADA HAD RISEN FROM, WITHIN THE LAST 15 YEARS, HAD RISEN FROM 30 YEARS OLD TO 40 YEARS OLD.

TED: WOW.

WOW.

>> YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW THAT AFFECTS LIFE'S PROSPECTS.

TED: REAL QUICKLY, I GOT TO WRAP IT UP HERE.

I WANT TO GET THE IDEA OF A NEW PRIME MINISTER, THE PRIME MINISTER IN FOR GOOD NOW AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE U.S. WHAT'S THE DYNAMIC?

RELATIVELY QUICKLY, IF YOU COULD?

>> YEAH, WELL, MR. CARNEY AND MR. TRUMP SPOKE TODAY, IT WAS CORDIAL AND PLAN TO MEET IN PERSON SOMETIME SOON.

THEY DIDN'T SAY WHEN THAT WOULD BE.

I THINK MR. CARNEY WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO DO TWO THINGS.

FIRST, TO TELL THE CANADIAN ELECTORATE THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION REPRESENTS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO CANADIANS AND SECOND TO TRY TO DAMPEN THAT THREAT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES GET STEADIER.

HE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN JUNE WHEN THE G7 MEETS IN ALBERTA, BUT MIGHT MEET BEFOREHAND.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

TED: JOHN VON HEYKING, UNIVERSITY OF LETHBRIDGE.

THANK YOU, SIR, WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> MY PLEASURE.

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TED: BIRD FLU IS SPREADING, THE VIRUS IS ALREADY TORN THROUGH AMERICA'S DAIRY HERDS AND POULTRY FLOCKS AND JUMPED TO OTHER MAMMALS, INCLUDING HUMANS.

ARE WE INCREASINGLY ON THE VERGE OF ANOTHER HEALTH SCARE?

TO FIND OUT WE WELCOME WILL HUMBLE, PRESIDENT OF THE ARIZONA HEALTH ASSOCIATION.

UPDATE ON BIRD FLU.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> YEAH, IT'S CIRCULATING AROUND THE WORLD.

THE H5N1 STRAIN IS CIRCULATING IN BIRD WILDLIFE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.

WHAT'S NEW IN THE U.S. IS THAT IT'S REALLY BEEN ATTACKING SOME BIG FLOCKS OF POULTRY FARMS, AND SOME HERE IN ARIZONA, WHICH HAS CAUSED THE POULTRY FARMERS TO HAVE TO EUTHANIZE A LOT OF THEIR ANIMALS AND SO FORTH.

SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S REALLY AN AGRICULTURAL VIRUS THAT'S AFFECTING THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR FINANCIALLY MUCH LESS SO A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE FOR HUMANS.

TED: TO KEEP AN EYE ON, THOUGH?

>> SURE, KEEP AN EYE ON.

TED: IS IT SPREADING OR IS IT EVOLVING OR BOTH?

>> SO IT'S SPREADING, IT SPREAD BASICALLY FROM WILD BIRDS TO MORE DOMESTIC FLOCKS.

THAT'S THE BIG SHIFT, AND THEN AS YOU MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO, IT'S BEEN INFECTING CERTAIN KINDS OF CATS, CATTLE.

SO FARMERS ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT IT'S DOING, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN A COW GETS INFECTED IT HURTS THE MILK PRODUCTION, AND THERE'S BEEN A FEW PEOPLE WORK IN DAIRY FARMS THAT HAVE BEEN INFECTED BUT IT HASN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, BAD SYMPTOMS OR ANYTHING.

TED: SO WHAT CAN BE DONE TO STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS AND/OR TO HELP KEEP THIS THING INTO EVOLVING THAT SOMETHING IS VERY SERIOUS?

>> THE EVOLUTION OF THE INFLUENZA VIRUS IS VERY INTERESTING.

I THINK IT IS, I THINK YOU WILL, TOO.

A LOT OF INFLUENZA VIRUSES ARE BIRDS, BIRD FLU, H5N1.

THERE ARE HUMAN INFLUENZA VIRUSES THAT INFECT THE SPECIES SEPARATELY.

YOU GET A NEW PANDEMIC WHEN YOU GET PIGS IN THE MIX.

I KNOW.

IT'S LIKE AN INTERMEDIATE HOST.

THEY CAN BE INFECTED WITH THE AVIAN INFLUENZA.

THEY CAN ALSO BE INFECTED WITH HUMAN INFLUENZA VIRUSES, AND SO WHEN A PIG GETS INFECTED WITH BOTH, IT CAN REASSORT THE RNA.

THIS IS RNA ON MY TIE, REASSORT, CREATE A NEW VERSION OF THE VIRUS THAT CAN TRAVEL FROM PERSON TO PERSON.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH H1N1.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN 1968 AND 1959.

SO NEW INFLUENZA VIRUSES GET MIXED IN PIGS FROM BOTH THE HUMAN INFLUENZA VIRUSES AND THE ONES THAT INFECT POULTRY BIRDS.

TED: SO PIGS ARE THE CANARIES IN THE COAL MINE.

>> YES, THEY'RE THE STICK THAT STIRS THE DRINK.

TED: YES.

>> SO THAT EXPLAINS PARTIALLY WHY MOST OF THE INFLUENZA VIRUSES, THE NEW PANDEMICS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT, START IN CHINA.

WHY?

BECAUSE THE KIND OF AGRICULTURE THEY DO IN RURAL CHINA IS THERE'S DUCKS WANDERING AROUND.

I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND.

DUCKS WANDERING, PEOPLE AND PIGS.

SO THAT'S HOW THE PIGS CAN GET INFECTED WITH BOTH OF THOSE KINDS OF VIRUSES WHEN THAT HAPPENS, AND IT'S VIRULENT, CAUSES DANGEROUS SYMPTOMS AND CAN GO PERSON TO PERSON, THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN GET A NEW PANDEMIC INFLUENZA.

SO THE U.S. AGRICULTURE IS REALLY DIFFERENT.

MY WIFE IS FROM IOWA.

I'VE BEEN THERE 100 TIMES.

YOU CAN SEE THE HOG PINS 100 METERS LONG, BUT THE PIGS DON'T GET IN CONTACT WITH BIRDS.

TED: THEY DON'T MIX AND MATCH OVER THERE.

>> AND NOT MANY HUMANS GET IN THERE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE PIGS FROM THE HUMANS, THEY DON'T WANT A HUMAN GOING IN THERE WITH A VIRUS BECAUSE IT WILL KILL THE PIG.

WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE OFF TOPIC BUT YOU GET THE POINT.

THAT'S WHAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.

WE HAVEN'T HAD THE REASSORTMENT TO MAKE THE H5N1 TO CAUSE A HUMAN TO HUMAN PANDEMIC, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN.

TED: WATCH YOURSELF AROUND PIGS.

LET'S SAY PEOPLE AREN'T WATCHING THEMSELVES AROUND PIGS AND IT'S JUMPING AND THE CANARY IS DOING WHAT IT DOES IN THE COAL MINE, ARE WE PREPARED IF A PANDEMIC OR SOMETHING UPCLOSE TO A PANDEMIC HITS THIS COUNTRY?

>> SO EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON HOW DANGEROUS THE VIRUS IS BECAUSE YOU CAN SAY YOU'RE PREPARED FOR SOMETHING THAT'S SUPER BAD, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE PREPARED.

I WOULD SAY WE WERE MUCH BETTER PREPARED SIX MONTHS AGO THAN WE ARE TODAY.

WHY?

BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE RESEARCH SCIENTISTS HAVE BEEN FIRED, ENCOURAGED TO QUIT.

RESEARCH IS REDUCING AT THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH.

THE CDC TALENT HAS BEEN LEAVING AND ENCOURAGED TO LEAVE.

THE INFECTIOUS DISEASES PEOPLE ARE ENCOURAGED TO LEAVE AND LEAVING BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING NATIONALLY AND THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL, ARIZONA HAD $250 MILLION OF CUTS JUST IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS IN VARIOUS SECTORS OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

ALL OF THE BUDGET CUTS AND THE FIRINGS OF PEOPLE HAVE A REAL-LIFE IMPACT ON HOW PREPARED WE ARE TO DEAL WITH NEW THREATS LIKE AN INFLUENZA PANDEMIC OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, LIKE COVID-19.

TED: RIGHT.

RIGHT.

THE CUTS IN GENERAL, ESPECIALLY THE LOCAL CUTS, THAT'S BOOTS ON THE GROUND KIND OF STUFF, ISN'T IT?

>> THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE JOBS THAT WORK ON ANTIVIRAL DISTRIBUTION THAT HAVE THE PREPAREDNESS RESPONSIBILITIES AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL WITH VACCINE RESEARCH WITH BEING ABLE TO DEPLOY A VACCINE WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE AT MASS VACCINATION SITES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE WHEN THE PANDEMIC HAPPENS IN ORDER TO RESPOND EFFECTIVELY.

SO THAT'S THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.

WE'RE LESS PREPARED NOW THAN WE WERE.

TED: LESS PREPARED TO DEAL WITH A PANDEMIC.

LESS PREPARED TO RECOGNIZE A PANDEMIC OR BOTH?

>> BOTH.

AND GLOBALLY IT'S EVEN -- REMEMBER, THE U.S. QUIT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.

WE PAID OUR DUES IN 2025, SO THEY HAVEN'T HAD A HUGE BUDGET CUT YET.

SO IT'S EVEN INTERNATIONALLY THE WORLD IS LESS PREPARED THAN WE WERE.

TED: ALL RIGHT WILL HUMBLE.

THE LESSON HERE IS STAY AWAY FROM PIGS.

>> WRONG MESSAGE.

TED: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> THANK YOU.

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TED: STARTING MAY 7, REAL ID WILL BE REQUIRED FOR AIR TRAVEL WITHIN THE U.S. NOW REAL IDs WILL ALSO BE NEEDED IN A VARIETY OF OTHER WAYS IN TERMS OF GETTING INTO FEDERAL OFFICES AND MILITARY AREAS.

WHAT IS REAL ID AND HOW DO YOU GET ONE?

WE SPOKE WITH BILL LAMOREAUX FROM THE MOTOR VEHICLE DEPARTMENT TO FIND OUT.

WHAT IS A REAL ID?

>> EXACTLY.

A REAL ID IS A FEDERALLY COMPLIANT CREDENTIAL THAT GETS YOU PAST TSA TO FLY DOMESTICALLY, IT ALSO GETS YOU ACCESS TO FEDERAL FACILITIES THAT MIGHT HAVE MORE ACCESS OR CONTROLLED ACCESS LIKE THE COURTS OR MILITARY BASES.

TED: SO MILITARY BASES, FEDERAL BUILDINGS.

>> CORRECT.

TED: HOW DOES IT DIFFER FROM A DRIVER'S LICENSE?

>> IT IS.

IN ARIZONA, THE REAL ID-COMPLIANT IDENTIFICATION IS THE DRIVER ID, IT CAN BE A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR REGULAR ID CARD AS WELL.

TED: IF IT'S A DRIVER'S LICENSE, IT HAS A STAR OR DOT?

>> CORRECT.

TWO FORMS OF IDENTIFICATION, ONE IS THE STANDARD ARIZONA DRIVER'S LICENSE, ONE IS THE TRAVEL ID.

IN ORDER TO GET THE TRAVEL ID IT MATCHES THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, ONCE YOU APPROVE THE REQUIREMENTS WHEN YOU GET DRIVER'S LICENSE IN THE MAIL, IT WILL HAVE THE STAR ON IT IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.

TED: HOW DOES THE REAL ID DIFFER FROM A PASSPORT?

>> EXACTLY.

THE PASSPORT IS USED FOR INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL.

THE REAL ID IS USED FOR DOMESTIC FLIGHTS.

TED: INTERESTING.

HOW DOES IT DIFFER FROM A TRIBAL ID?

>> IT DOES NOT, ACTUALLY.

THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF FEDERAL IDENTIFICATION CARDS THAT ARE FEDERALLY COMPLIANT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE ARIZONA TRAVEL ID.

IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN USE PASSPORT, THE PASSPORT CARD, THE TRIBAL CARD, IF YOU WANT TO USE ALL THOSE TO FLY DOMESTICALLY.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOUR PASSPORT TO GO PITTSBURGH OR DENVER OR L.A., YOU CAN USE THE ARIZONA TRAVEL ID AND IT'S ALWAYS IN YOUR PURSE OR WALLET.

TED: WHO NEEDS A REAL ID AND WHO DOESN'T?

>> IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FEDERAL FORM -- CREDENTIAL OF FEDERAL ID, THE ARIZONA TRAVEL ID WOULD BE PERFECT OR IN THIS CASE THE REAL ID.

THE REAL ID IS THE NATIONAL VERSION, THE TRAVEL ID IS THE ARIZONA VERSION.

TED: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STAND AT THE GATE ON MAY 8?

>> THAT'S WHEN THE TSA IS GOING TO ASK FOR THE CREDENTIAL, AND YOU MAY HAVE DELAYS, YOU MAY NOT PASS.

WE'LL SEE COME MAY 7.

TED: IF YOU HAVE A MILITARY ID, IS THAT ID ENOUGH?

>> CORRECT, YES, THEY COMPLY WITH THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

ARIZONA ID IS FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE, AND YOU ARE FLYING, YOU NEED TO GET ONE.

>> THE PASSPORT IS INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL, WHAT ABOUT DOMESTIC, NO?

>> IT WOULD WORK, IT IS A FEDERAL FORM OF ID AND THERE IS A PASSPORT CARD.

A LOT OF PEOPLE GET THE PASSPORT AND FOR AN EXTRA FEE THE PASSPORT CARD BUT THE ARIZONA TRAVEL ID IS FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FEDERAL FORM, A GREAT WAY TO KEEP IT IN YOUR PURSE OR WALLET.

TED: WHAT'S THE PROCESS?

>> YOU START BY BOOKING AN APPOINTMENT AT MVD OFFICE FOR A DAY AND TIME CONVENIENT FOR YOU, AND MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU COME INTO THE APPOINTMENT THAT YOU HAVE THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION, BIRTH CERTIFICATE, THE AUTHENTIC ONE FROM THE STATE YOU ARE BORN IN, CERTIFIED COPY OR ORIGINAL.

CAN'T BE THE HOSPITAL VERSION, AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AND TWO FORMS OF MAIL WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON IT.

TED: TO GET BACK TO THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, IS A COPY GOOD ENOUGH?

>> HAS TO BE A CERTIFIED COPY.

CAN'T BE ONE YOU SCANNED AT A XEROX, A CERTIFIED COPY OR THE ORIGINAL.

I HAVE THE ORIGINAL.

TED: IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL, WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> WORK WITH THE STATE YOU ARE BORN IN TO GET THE CERTIFICATE OR BRING IN YOUR U.S. PASSPORT, THAT WOULD WORK AS WELL.

TED: THAT IS REQUIRED.

OF ALL THE THINGS NEEDED, THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED?

>> THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR THE PASSPORT.

TED: AND NEED TO GO TO MVD, MAKE AN APPOINTMENT FIRST?

>> YOU CAN.

IN ARIZONA YOU CAN DO WALK-INS AS WELL.

I LOVE THE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WHAT THE APPOINTMENT DOES, IT GETS YOU IN FRONT OF THE WALK-IN CROWD, SO IT SKIRTS OUT TO FRONT OF THE LINE, IF YOU COME IN TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY ARE THE BETTER DAYS TO COME TO MVD, I TELL YOU THAT NOW, MONDAY AND FRIDAY ARE BUSIER, BOOK THE APPOINTMENT FOR THE DAY AND TIME THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR YOU.

IF MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY ISN'T GOOD FOR YOUR SCHEDULE, PEOPLE WORK 8:00 TO 5:00, THERE ARE AUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY LOCATIONS THAT ARE OPEN LATER OR OPEN ON SATURDAY.

TED: BECAUSE OF THE AUTHENTICATION THAT IS NEEDED, YOU CANNOT DO IT ONLINE, CORRECT?

>> SOME FOLKS CAN.

IN ARIZONA YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR PHOTO TAKEN EVERY 12 YEARS, NOW THE EXPIRATION BUMPS TO 8 YEARS, IF YOU HAVE A PHOTO NEWER THAN EIGHT YEARS AND SHOWN A LOT OF IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION TO THE MVD AND IT'S ONFILE, YOU COULD SAVE YOURSELF A TRIP TO THE MVD.

TED: IS THAT INFORMATION ONLINE?

CAN YOU FIND OUT IF YOU CAN USE ONLINE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IF YOU GO AZDOT.GOV, YOU CAN CHAT WITH A REPRESENTATIVE AND THEY CAN TELL YOU IF YOU CAN DO IT THERE OR NEED AN APPOINTMENT.

THEY ARE LIVE ARIZONA EMPLOYEES.

TED: SPEAKING OF REAL QUICKLY, HOW LONG DOES THE PROCESS TAKE?

WE'VE BEEN IN MVD, HOW LONG IS THE PROCESS?

>> I'M PROUD TO SAY THE ARIZONA MVD IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE NATION, AVERAGE WAIT TIME IS 25 TO 30 MINUTES TOPS DOOR-TO-DOOR.

IF YOU BOOK AN APPOINTMENT, LESS THAN THAT.

TED: YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS OR THE WAIT TIME?

>> THE ENTIRE WAIT TIME, IF YOU WALK IN THE DOOR, 25 TO 30 MINUTES, AND THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW IS BE PHOTO READY.

WHEN YOU COME IN, WE WILL TAKE A PHOTO OF YOU, BE READY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SMILE, BUT BE PHOTO READY.

TED: HOW LONG BEFORE IT ARRIVES?

>> 10 TO 14 DAYS BUT MINE CAME IN 4.

TED: IT'S GOOD FOR EIGHT YEARS?

>> EIGHT YEARS AND COSTS $25 AT INITIAL AND RENEWAL.

TED: WHERE DO YOU GO TO GET ALL THIS ONLINE?

>> AZDOT.GOV/MVD.

TED: BILL LAMOREAUX.

GOOD INFORMATION, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

TED: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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