>> ANTI-VAX PROTESTORS CLOSE A BRIDGE AND BLARE THEIR HORNS NIGHT-AND-DAY IN THE CANADIAN CAPITOL.

WHAT'S BEHIND THIS?

WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEX ON IVORY TOWER.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.

I'M BARBARA FOUGHT FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY.

JOINING ME TONIGHT ON THE PANEL ARE CHAD SPARBER, FROM COLGATE UNIVERSITY KRISTI ANDERSEN, FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY RICK FENNER, FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY AND NINA MOORE, FROM COLGATE.

WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT IN CANADA, OUR FIRST STORY.

FOR THREE WEEKS NOW PROTESTORS HAVE BEEN ENCAMPED IN OTTAWA, THE CAPITAL.

AND FOR AWHILE THE PROTEST SPREAD TO WINDSOR AND CLOSED OFF THE BRIDGE TO THE U.S..

INITIALLY IT SEEMED TO BE TRUCKERS PROTESTING HAVING TO GET VACCINES.

THEY'D BEEN EXEMPT PREVIOUSLY AS ESSENTIAL WORKERS.

BUT THE ONTARIO TRUCKING ASSOCIATION SAID THAT THE BRIDGE BLOCKADE WAS MOSTLY PICKUPS AND CARS, NOT SEMIS.

SO NINA WHAT DOES THIS BLOCKADE REALLY SYMBOLIZE?

>> WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS PROBABLY MORE AS SYMBOLIZATION OF MEDIA SPECTACLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

IT CERTAINLY ISN'T CAPTURING THE CONCERNS OF TRUCKERS.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT REALLY A TRUCKER BLOCKADE THAT'S BEING CARRIED OUT BY TRUCKERS BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF TRUCKERS WHO ARE INVOLVED OUT OF THE ROUGHLY 180,000 OR SO CANADIAN TRUCKERS.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU'VE HAD THE MAJOR TRUCKER ASSOCIATION AND ALIGNS ALLIANCES AND THE MAIN MAGAZINE IN CANADA COME OUT AGAINST THIS.

I WOULDN'T SAY IT SYMBOLIZES SOME SORT OF REPRESENTATION OF TRUCKER CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THE MAJORITY OF CANADIAN TRUCKERS ARE VACCINATED.

BUT THEN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, NONE OF THEY WILL REALLY CAPTURES WHAT HAS BEEN REPORTED AS THE MAIN CONCERNS OF TRUCKERS ; MAINLY POOR ROAD CONDITIONS.

WHAT THEY CALL THEIR WAGE THEFT.

AND THEN ALSO ACCESS TO RESTROOMS WHILE ON THE ROAD.

I WOULD SAY ALSO THAT THE GOAL IS NOT CLEAR, WHICH IS WHY I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SYMBOLISM OF WHAT IT MEANS.

IT STARTED OUT AS A PROTEST AGAINST THE CROSS BORDER TRUCKER MANDATE, VACCINE MANDATES BUT BALLOONED INTO THIS AGAINST ALL THINGS, ESPECIALLY GOVERNMENT.

AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU WAS RIGHT TO INVOKE THE EMERGENCIES ACT SO THAT HE CAN QUELL THIS.

IT WAS HURTING TRUCKERS WHO WOULD HAVE TO GO AROUND THE BLOCKADES SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, FIVE-HOUR LONG DETOURS BUT ALSO HURTING LOCAL BUSINESSES.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST A SYMBOL OF HOW YOU GET A SMALL MINORITY OF FOLKS WHO CAN GARNER TREMENDOUS MEDIA ATTENTION.

>> KRISTI, DO YOU SEE THIS BEING A LASTING PROTEST?

>> NO, I THINK IT'S GOING AWAY AT THIS POINT.

THE BLOCK CADE BETWEEN DETROIT AND-- THE BLOCK BLOCK AID BETWEEN DETROIT AND WINDSOR IS GONE.

THE TEAMSTERS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE ONTARIO TRUCKING ASSOCIATION HAVE COME OUT STRONGLY AGAINST THIS.

I THINK THERE WERE PRESUMABLY SOME TRUCKERS WHO WERE UPSET ABOUT SOME OF THE REGULATIONS BUT THAT JUST PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY REALLY FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF ANTIGOVERNMENT RIGHT WING FOLKS FROM CANADA AND THE U.S. TO JUMP IN AND THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT LOTS OF MONEY WAS SENT-- RAISED THROUGH NOT GoFundMe BUT OTHER CHANNELS, COMING FROM THE U.S., IN FACT COMING FROM THE U.S.

VERY WEALTHY PARTS OF THE U.S., PEOPLE FOUND.

AND IT'S JUST-- IT'S JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON OF AS YOU SAY, ANTIGOVERNMENT, ANTI-MANDATES MAYBE BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY THE TRUCKING ISSUES, I THINK.

IT'S A BROADER BURCH OF PEOPLE WHO JUST LIKE YELLING AND SCREAMING AND CAUSING A LOT OF ECONOMIC DAMAGE AS YOU POINTED OUT.

>> I THINK IT STARTED OFF AS A SMALL PROTEST.

THE FRUSTRATION OVER MANY OF THESE REGULATIONS AND THEN IT TOOK ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN AND I THINK OUTSIDE FORCES SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED HERE.

AS KRISTI SAID.

AND YOU SEE THE TRAIL OF MONEY COMING FROM WEALTHY, MANY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN AREAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, IT TOOK ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHT SAYING THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT CAUSED SO MUCH DAMAGE AND ALL AND I THINK THE ECONOMIC COST, WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR NOT, I'VE HEARD IS $2 BILLION.

THE HYPOCRISY THERE.

>> IT'S INTERESTING.

I WANT TO SAY TO KRISTI, I WOULDN'T DISMISS THE RIGHT'S CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.

I MEAN I THINK THAT ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT COVID AND ANGER AND DRACONIAN POLICIES REGARDING TO IT.

BUT SPEAKING OF THE HYPOCRISY ISSUE, GoFundMe IS AN INTERESTING CASE THAT SHE REFERENCED EARLIER.

THERE WERE $9 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDS RAISED FOR THAT FOR THE TRUCKERS.

THEY DISBURSED THE FIRST $1 MILLION BUT HELD ON TO THE NEXT EIGHT BECAUSE THE PROTESTS BECAME AN OCCUPATION AND BECAME VIOLENT, WHICH YOU WOULD SAY OKAY, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE EXCEPT WHEN YOU PUT IT INTO THE BLACK LIVES MATTER CONTEXT AND YOU GO TO SEATTLE WHERE THE PROTESTORS THERE OCCUPIED THE CAPITOL HILL DISTRICT OF SEATTLE, THE POLICE HAD VACATED THE PRECINCT.

FORMED THE CAPITOL HILL AUTONOMOUS ZONE.

THAT WAS VIOLENT.

FOUR SHOOTINGS TWO OF WHICH WERE FATAL AND GoFundMe CONTINUED TO RELEASE THE FUNDS TO THOSE PROTESTORS.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE INAPPROPRIATE IN A SHORT SOUNDBITE LIKE THIS TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THOSE TWO KINDS OF THINGS BUT ELON MUSK DID IT IN TWO WORDS WITH A TREAT THAT SAID DOUBLE STANDARD?

I THINK IT SPEAKS TO THE REALITY OF LIKE HYPOCRISY ON THE LEFT, HYPOCRISY ON THE RIGHT.

HYPOCRISY ALL AROUND AND I THINK ALL OF US HAVE THIS, WELL, IT'S OKAY TO PROTEST.

YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.

>> NINA, DO YOU HAVE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY?

>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY HERE.

I THINK PART OF THE DIFFERENCE-- AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY DISAGREEING WITH YOU.

I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, THE VIOLENCE SOBERED WITH THE BLACK LIVES MOVEMENT PROTEST, ALTHOUGH I THINK SOME OF THOSE FOLKS IN SEATTLE WERE ABSOLUTELY ROGUE AND MANY CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS CAME OUT AND SAID YOU ARE NOT REPRESENTING THE CAUSE.

IN FACT, YOU ARE HURTING IT.

HERE IT WAS ACTUALLY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WHO TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY WERE DAMAGING NOT JUST THE BUSINESSES BUT ALSO TRUCKERS WHO WERE SAYING YOU ARE HURTING US; AVERAGE EVERYDAY FOLKS.

BUT TO ANOTHER POINT AND I'LL COME AT THIS FROM ANOTHER ANGLE AND END BY SAYING I THINK WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IS THAT THE DEMOCRAT PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL ARGUMENT ABOUT THE ANTI-VAXERS HERE REALLY DOESN'T HOLD AS MUCH WATER IN SO FAR AS THOSE ARGUMENTS CONNECTED THEM TO TRUMP.

AND THIS IDEA THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, ANTI-DEMOCRAT THAT THE PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

THIS DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LEGS AS WAS POINTED OUT BY KRISTI.

HOWEVER, WE DID SEE SOMEWHAT COPY CAT VERSIONS OF THIS IN PARIS AND BELGIUM.

THEY HAVE BEEN QUASHED, AS YOU POINTED OUT.

BUT I DO THINK IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS A GLOBAL UPRISING IS PROBABLY TOO STRONG OF A WORD BUT THERE IS GLOBAL PUSHBACK.

AND UNLESS WE ARE GOING TO SAY TRUMP IS CONTROLLING THE WHOLE WORLD, THERE IS MORE TO IT.

>> SPEAKING OF THE WHOLE WORLD, CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES DROPPED SEVERAL POINTS ON A SCALE OF HOW HEALTHY OUR DEMOCRACIES ARE.

WE HAVE BEEN BEMOANING THE STATE OF DEMOCRACY IN THE UNITED STATES HERE FOR A YEAR OR MORE.

AND IT TURNS OUT THAT A NEW REPORT SHOWS ALL ACROSS THE WORLD, DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES ARE WANING.

FEWER THAN HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY.

A RESEARCH UNIT AFFILIATED WITH THE ECONOMIST MAGAZINE PUBLISHES THIS ANNUAL DEMOCRACY INDEX.

RICK, WHY THE DECLINE IN DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES?

>> WELL, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAINLY REASONS TO BELIEVE THAT DEMOCRACY IS LOSING GROUND, AS YOU MENTIONED, NOT ONLY AROUND THE WORLD BUT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES SUCH AS RESTRICTIONS ON VOTING, GERRYMANDERING, ATTEMPT TO OVERTURN ELECTIONS.

BUT ONE THING THAT I WAS REALLY STRUCK BY IN THE REPORT IS HOW MUCH IT RELIED ON THE RESPONSES TO THE PANDEMIC AS A REASON FOR LOWERING SCORES, SPECIFICALLY THROUGH MASK MANDATE VACCINATION REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER RESPONSES AS A CAUSE OF LOWER DEMOCRACY SCORES.

ESPECIALLY IN CANADA TO ME, I THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE LAWS AND REGULATIONS REDUCING PERSONAL FREEDOMS AND EQUATING TO A LOSS OF DEMOCRACY CLEARLY WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT A COUNTRY WOULD BE LESS DEMOCRATIC BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO YELL FIRE IN A CROWDED THEATER, SO I WAS STRUCK BY HOW MUCH EMFA SIZ THEY PUT ON PERSONAL FREEDOM OVER THE GREATER GOOD.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT IN SOME OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE BECAUSE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT THE INDEX AS WELL IT SEEMS LIKE MASK MANDATES, VOON MANDATES AND ALL OF THAT IS MAKING PART OF THE COUNTRY LESS DEMOCRATIC IN TERMS OF THE INDEX BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT, RIGHT?

NINA, YOU REFERENCED THE EXECUTIVE POWERS THAT TRUDEAU HAD EXERCISED IN THIS STRUCKER THINGS.

THE ECONOMIST WAS RIGHTLY VERY CRITICAL OF TRUDEAU EXERCISING THOSE POWERS BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME IT HAD BEEN USED IN 34 YEARS AND IT FROZE BANK ACCOUNTS, DECLARED THE PROTESTS ILLEGAL AND ALL DOING SO WITHOUT A COURT ORDER.

THOSE ARE THE ANTICIPATE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPALS I CAN SAY LIKE THAT IS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC EVEN IF IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF SOMETHING ELSE.

>> I SORT OF THINK THAT THE THINGS THAT THE PRESS COVERAGE OF THE ECONOMIST INDEX THIS YEAR FOCUSED ON WERE MUCH MORE PANDEMIC RELATED THAN THE WHOLE-- YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE REALLY ASKING OR LOOKING AT A WHOLE BUNCH OF INDICATORS EVERY YEAR AND THEY TENDED TO END THE STORIES RIGHT UP THAT STUFF.

BUT I HAVE USED THAT A LOT IN TEACHING STUDENTS ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND DIFFERENT DEMOCRACIES AND HOW YOU CONCEPTUALIZE DEMOCRACY.

AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

IT USES-- WE SOCIAL SCIENTISTS ALWAYS THINK MEASURES ARE STRONGER IF THEY USE MULTIPLE INDICATORS OF DIFFERENT KINDS, WHICH THEY DO.

SO A LOT OF IT IS QUESTIONS ASKED TO A RANGE OF EXPERTS, YOU KNOW, EASY ANSWERS IN THE SENSE OF JUST THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THREE DIFFERENT RESPONSES.

SO, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT EXTENT IS THERE CORRUPTION IN THE GOVERNMENT.

A LOT, SOME, HARDLY ANY AT ALL.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THEY AGGREGATE ALL THAT.

THEY ALSO MAKE USE OF PUBLIC OPINION DATA AND DATA ON VOTER TURNOUT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO I THINK THAT THE DECLINE OF DEMOCRACY IS NOT-- I DON'T THINK THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE ANTI-DEMOCRATIC ACTIONS EITHER OF JUSTIN TRUDEAU OR THESE FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE PROTESTS.

BLUT IT WAS IN THE MINDS WHEN IT CAME OUT.

THAT'S ONLY ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT DEMOCRACY.

>> I THINK YOU SUPERBLY SUMMARIZED THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT INDICATORS IN THIS REPORT.

FOR ME, THE MOST STRIKING IS THE MEASURE OF VOTER PARTICIPATION IN TERMS OF TURNOUT, A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF WHICH I SORT OF DESCRIBE AS THE PROCESS AND MACHINERY OF DEMOCRACY.

BUT I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF WAS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO FAR AND SAY THAT THE UNDERLYING PREMISE OF THIS REPORT AND THE ALARM THAT IT IS SOUNDING AROUND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE FEW BONA FIDE DEMOCRACIES, SUGGEST THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM, RIGHT?

WHEN IN FACT THE CONSTITUTIONAL FRAMERS WERE QUITE SUSPICIOUS OF AND WORRIED ABOUT POPULAR CONTROL.

IN AMERICA, WE DON'T HAVE A PURE DEMOCRACY.

SO WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SAY DEMOCRACY IS UNDER ATTACK, I SAY BUT OKAY CONSIDER THE U.S. SENATE, WHICH IS BASED NOT ON POPULAR SOVEREIGNTY, CONSIDER THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WHERE WE DON'T AS PEOPLE ACTUALLY ELECT THE PRESIDENT AND MOST OF ALL, THE UNELECTED FEDERAL JUDICIARY WHO DECIDES SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES IN THE COUNTRY.

FOR ME, IT'S LESS ULTIMATELY ABOUT THE MACHINERY AND MORE ABOUT WHAT IS THE OUTPUT?

HOW ARE THE GOVERNMENTS FUNCTIONING?

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN HAVE A SET OF STATISTICAL MEASUREMENTS THAT CAPTURE THAT.

SOME OF THAT IS CAPTURED BY QUESTIONS ON SURVEYS ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT, ABOUT HOW MUCH CONFIDENCE PEOPLE HAVE IN THE GOVERNMENT, HOW MUCH THEY THINK GOVERNMENT IS MAKING GOOD DECISIONS, HOW MUCH CORRUPTION THEY BELIEVE IS IN THE GOVERNMENT.

GOOD PUBLIC OPINION SAY THE GALLUP POLLS AND BAROMETERS ASKED OF COUNTRIES ARE USED TO LOOK AT THIS.

>> NINA IS RIGHT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TEXT OF THIS DOCUMENT, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT DEMOCRACY IS UNDER THREAT IS BECAUSE WESTERN DEMOCRACIES HAVE INCREASINGLY TURNED TO TECHNOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS RATHER THAN DEMOCRATIC WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE SUPREME COURT, THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE E.U.

ARE MORE TECHNOCRATIC IN SOME WAYS THAN DEMOCRATIC AND WE SUPPORT THESE THINGS.

>> AND INTERESTINGLY.

AXIOS WHICH PLAYS A BIG PART IN DISSEMINATING THIS IS ARGUING FOR DEMOCRACY BUT MANY ON THE LEFT ARGUE AGAINST POPULISM AND SO TO MY MIND, A LOT OF THE POPULOUS STUFF WHAT IS THE DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE.

THAT'S WHY THE FRAMERS SAY WE DON'T WANT A WHOLE LOT OF DEMOCRACY.

>> LET ME MOVE US TO OUR THIRD TOPIC.

THE SANDY HOOK FAMILIES GOT A SETTLEMENT THIS WEEK WITH THE GUN MANUFACTURER REMINGTON, WHICH USED TO HAVE ITS HEADQUARTERS NEARBY IN ILION $78-MILLION-DOLLARS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

THE LEGAL CLAIM HERE WAS THAT THE COMPANY WRONGLY MARKETED THE GUN.

I'M WONDERING, CHAD, WILL THIS CHANGE HOW GUNS ARE PROMOTED AND ADVERTISED?

>> I THINK YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT TO FRAME THIS QUESTION AS A MARKETING ONE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE IS HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS OR DOESN'T ALLOW FOR LAWSUITS AGAINST GUN MANUFACTURERS IN THE EVENTUALLY WEAPONS ARE USED IN THE COMMISSION OF A CRIME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE COMPANIES KNOWINGLY VIOLATED STATE OR FEDERAL LAW IN THE MARKETING OF THE WEAPON.

AND IN THE CONNECTICUT CASE, I THINK WHAT IT PROHIBITED WAS IMMORAL AND UNSCRUPULOUS ADVERTISING WHICH SOUNDS RATHER VAGUE TO ME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME IF THIS HAD GONE THROUGH A FULL TRIAL, I'M NOT SURE THE FAMILIES WOULD HAVE WON.

REMEMBER THIS IS A SETTLEMENT WITH FOUR INSURANCE COMPANIES, NOT A LEGAL DECISION SO I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS BIG MOVEMENT TOWARD GUN CONTROL THAT SOME PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE AND I THINK REALISTICALLY, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LAWS ABOUT HOW GUNS ARE ADVERTISED, HOPEFULLY WITH MORE SPECIFICITY THAN WHAT CONNECTICUT HAD AND THEN MAYBE A MOVEMENT TOWARD AWAY FROM ADVERTISING GUNS AS MILITARY MILITARISTIC.

>> IN CONNECTICUT, YOU KNOW, THE SELLING AND MARKETING OF A MILITARY WEAPON TO CIVILIANS WAS THE RATIONALE FOR THIS BEING UNLAWFUL MARKETING.

IN ADDITION, I THINK REALLY EVEN BEYOND THE $73 MILLION WAS THE FACT THAT REMINGTON AGREED OR HAD TO TURN OVER ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS.

AND THE LINE FROM THEIR ADVERTISING THAT STRUCK ME THE MOST: CONSIDER YOUR MAN CARD REISSUED.

>> HAVE YOU TO SAY THAT WITH A DEEPER VOICE.

YOUR MAN CARD HAS BEEN REISSUED.

>> BUT TO ME IT SAYS THEY WERE MARKETING TOWARD YOUNG MEN WHO, FOR SOME REASON, FELT THEIR MASCULINITY WAS IN DOUBT AND SOMEHOW, BY CARRYING AN A AK-15, THAT THEY WERE BE MORE OF A MAN, AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE SCRUTINY IN TERMS OF THE MARKET CAN AND WILL HAVE A GREATER IMPACT, AND I THINK MORE STATES WILL PROBABLY -- NEW YORK-- NEW YORK IS CONSIDERING A LAW SIMILAR TO CONNECTICUT'S WHICH IS GOING TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THE GUN MANUFACTURERS.

>> I THINK IT IS THE CASE WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS MORE SCRUTINY AND MORE CASES BROUGHT UNDER THESE LAWS, LET'S AGUM THAT MORE STATES PASS SIMILAR LAWS, I THINK THE MANUFACTURERS WILL JUST ACT IN THEIR OWN SELF PRESERVATION AND BACK OFF SOME OF THIS ADVERTISING.

I WOULD THINK THAT THE OPENING UP OF ALL THEIR CORRESPONDENCE AND SO ON, INTERNAL, WILL GIVE PEOPLE A SHOCK AND IT'S SORT OF LIKE WHAT HAPPENED AFTER PARKLAND WHEN A LOT OF THE STORES, DICK'S SPORTING GOODS AND WAL-MART AND OTHER STORES SAID THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SELL TO CERTAIN PEOPLE OR THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SELL CERTAIN KINDS OF GUNS ANYMORE.

MY SENSE IS THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE PART OF THE GUN MANUFACTURERS.

>> I WANT TO PICK UP A LITTLE BIT ON THAT POINT AND EMPHASIZE THAT WHAT IS KEY HERE FOR ME IS THAT THIS IS A VOLUNTARY SETTLEMENT.

THIS IS NOT A COURT ORDER AND SO FOR THIS SORT OF THING TO HAVE BROADER RAMIFICATIONS NOT ONLY AS CHAD POINTED OUT WOULD YOU EVENTUALLY HAVE TO GET BEYOND ASSAULT WEAPONRY AND INTO HANDGUNS WHICH ACCOUNT FOR 80% OF THE MURDERS BUT YOU HAVE TO PERSUADE A VERY HEAVILY CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT TO ROLL BACK ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

THE OTHER THING IS YOU HAVE TO CAPTURE A LARGE MAJORITY IN CONGRESS, ENOUGH TO OVERTURN THE 2005 PROTECTION IN COMMERCE OF GUNS.

I THINK THAT'S THE TITLE OF IT, WHICH DOES THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

AND REMINGTON CAVED IN BECAUSE THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL.

BUT ALSO REMINGTON HAD ALREADY BEEN IN BANKRUPTCY TWICE AND WAS CIRCLING THE DRAIN.

WHAT THE HECK IS ANOTHER 70 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS GOING TO DO BECAUSE PERHAPS THAT WILL GET WRITTEN OFF AS WELL.

>> THEY HAD A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF DEBT AND TWO BANKRUPTCIES.

YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.

THE SETTLEMENT DOES SORT OF THROW EVERYTHING, A BIG QUESTION MARK AROUND EVERYTHING.

>> BUT IT SHOWS THERE IS A PATH AND UP UNTIL NOW THERE WASN'T A PATH AND I THINK THAT PATH WILL BE BROADENED BY MANY MORE STATES.

I AGREE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THERE WON'T BE MUCH CHANGE BUT AT THE STATE LEVEL, NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA, THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE GUN DEALERS.

>> BUT NINA'S POINT BURIED IN OTHER OTHER VERY GOOD POINTS IS 80% OF MURDERS ARE BY HANDGUNS.

>> AND COULD I JUST SAY ONE LAST THING, BARBARA, IS IF WE DO GET THIS SORT OF FEDERALISM RESPONSE, WHERE YOU HAVE THE COASTAL LEGISLATURES, CALIFORNIA, NEW JERSEY, CONNECTICUT, WHO ARE IMPLEMENTING CONTROL, THAT STILL LEAVES THE REST OF AMERICA.

AND WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT A LOT OF GUNS THAT SHOW UP IN THESE CITIES WITH HIGH CRIME, ARE IN FACT TRAFFICKED OUT OF SOUTHERN STATES.

>> SO, RICK, SHOULD GUN MANUFACTURERS BE PRETTY CONCERNED HERE?

>> I THINK MUCH MORE CONCERNED THAN THEY WERE A YEAR OR TWO AGO.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, KRISTI MENTIONED IT'S NOT JUST FROM THE LAWSUIT, YOU KNOW, SELLERS, DICK'S SPORTING GOODS, WAL-MARTS.

THERE IS MORE PRESSURE ON THE GUN MANUFACTURERS TODAY THAN THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY.

>> I WAS REALLY SURPRISED ABOUT THE GUN MANUFACTURERS PRODUCT PLACING WITHIN VIDEO GAMES AND THAT'S SOMETHING PROBABLY FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION.

SO LET'S OPEN UP THE GRADEBOOK AND YOUR F PLEASE CHAD.

>> I CONFESS ONE BAPTISM FORETHE FORGIVENESS OF SINS UTTERED BY CATHOLICS WORLDWIDE AT EVERY MASS.

BUT THE DIOCESE SAY BAPTISMS PERFORMED BY FATHER ANDRES MAY BE INVALID BECAUSE OF THE USE OF THE WORD WE RATHER THAN I.

THEY'RE ASKING PEOPLE WHO WERE BAPTIZED BY HIM TO GET BAPTIZED AGAIN AND IF YOU ARE MARRIED, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN, TOO.

I HOPE YOU DON'T THINK THAT I'M TAKING THE SACRAMENTS LIGHTLY WHEN I SUGGEST THAT THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO REUNITE PEOPLE IN THEIR FOLD WITH GOD BUT IF I'M WRONG IN THAT, I INVITE FATHER JASON AND DEACON PAUL TO CORRECT MY UNDERSTANDING OF SUNDAY'S HOMILY.

>> >> I'M GIVING AN F TO FORMER U.S.

INTERIOR SECRETARY WHO WAS FOUND TO HAVE MISUSED HIS POSITION TO ADVANCE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN HIS HOMETOWN IN MONTANA.

ACCORDING TO A RECENT FEDERAL INVESTIGATION BY A TRUMP APPOINTED INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, I HE IS NOW RUNNING FOR CONGRESS HAD AGENCY STAFF HELP HIM WITH THE PROJECT AND LIED TO THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT'S INSPECTOR GENERAL ABOUT ALL OF THIS.

NONE OF LESS, MOST ALL REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE SUPPORTING HIM AS HE RUNS FOR CONGRESS.

>> RICK.

>> MY F GOES TO LAR RID DAVID E-TRADE BABY BOTH START STARRED IN I HAD HILARIOUS COMMERCIALS ON THE SUPER BOWL.

THEY WERE PUSHING WHAT I CALL HORRIBLE FINANCIAL ADVICE TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU THAT BEING CYNICAL ABOUT CRYPTOCURRENCY IS ABOUT AS FOOLISH AS HAVING BEEN CYNICAL ABOUT THE INVENTION OF THE LIGHT BULB.

E-TRADE BABY IS BACK TO MISLEAD PEOPLE INTO THINKING THAT INVESTING IN STOCKS AND OPTIONS ACTIVE INVESTING IN THESE IS SO EASY THAT A BABY COULD DO IT.

SO WHILE I MAY LAUGH AT THEIR COMMERCIALS, THEIR FINANCIAL ADVICE IS NO LAUGHING MATTER.

>> AND NINA.

>> AN F TO THE FACT THAT BOB SAG IT'S FAMILY HAD TO SUE IN COURT TO KEEP THE GRUESOME PHOTOS RELATED TO HIS DEATH PRIVATE.

ACCORDING TO THE AUTOPSY, THE COMEDIAN AND FORMER STAR OF THE POPULAR FULL HOUSE SIT-COM ACCIDENTALLY FELL AND SUFFERED MULTIPLE HEAD FRACTURES SO WHY DO WE, THE PUBLIC, NEED TO SEE PICTURES OF THESE FATAL INJURIES?

THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T.

AND WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY, CHAD, YOUR A.

>> TO MY EMPLOYER FOR DROPPING OUR MASKING MANDATE.

WE HAVE 97% VACCINATION RATE AND RISKS OF SERIOUS DISEASE AND HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE LOWER.

HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN WHO WALK OR BIKE TO SCHOOL IS A FRACTION OF WHAT IT USED TO BE.

PARENTS AND NEIGHBORS IN SAN FRANCISCO, BARCELONA AND OTHER PLACES ARE FORMING GROUPS OF PEOPLE CYCLING ON SCHOOL ROUTES AT THE BEGINNING AND END OF THE DAY.

THIS LARGE PACK OF CYCLISTS PROTECTS STUDENTS AND ALLOWS THEM TO SAFELY BIKE TO SCHOOL.

I LOVE THE IDEA.

>> I LIKE THAT IDEA, TOO.

RICK.

HOW ABOUT YOUR A.

>> MELANCHOLY A TO P.J.

O'ROURKE, SAT IRIST PASSED AWAY THIS WEEK.

GREAT INSIGHT, QUICK WITTED.

MORE THAN WILLING TO AIM ARROWS AT HIMSELF WHEN HE DID SOMETHING SILLY OR WRONG.

I DIDN'T OFTEN AGREE WITH THE DIRECTION HE WAS HEADED IN, I ALWAYS ENJOYED THE RIDE.

>> NINA.

>> IN HONOR OF BLACK HISTORY, I'M GIVING MY A TO MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., WHO NOT ONLY DID A LOT OF STUFF TO CHANGE THE WORLD AS A WHOLE, BUT ALSO WAS WILLING TO DO SO BY MAKING PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE, INCLUDING THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE FOR JUSTICE AND EQUITY.

>> YES, WELL SAID.

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