- [Wendy] William Penn paid his first visit to the colony the king had given him in 1682.

He landed in Upland, a community the Swedes had founded 38 years earlier.

Penn renamed Upland, Pennsylvania's oldest city.

Do you know its name?

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Here's the host of The Pennsylvania Game, Lynn Hinds.

(audience applauding) - Thank you, thank you.

Hi, hi panelists.

Thank you, hi, hi.

(audience applauding) Thank you very much.

Thank you, Wendy Williams.

We've got some questions I think that will knock your ears off today.

You'll find them absolutely and charming.

We've got a lively audience in our studio and hope that you're awake and alert and can beat our panel in getting the right answers.

Bernie Asbell is our first panelist.

Welcome back, Bernie Asbell.

(audience cheering) She is a television news producer and was born and raised and works in Johnstown.

Let's welcome Diane Frye.

(audience cheering) And he's a broadcast radio journalist and radio personality, Kevin Nelson.

(audience cheering) All right, I promise you some tough questions.

Let's get started.

Now, William Penn came to visit his colony back in 1682, it was.

Luckily there was a small TV crew on, and they got footage of actual.

- [Wendy] When William Penn left the Welcome to come ashore for his first visit in 1682, he landed near Upland.

Upland was settled by the Swedes in 1644, and is the state's oldest City.

Penn gave it an English name.

Did he call it, A, Philadelphia; B, Chester; C, Landsdowne; or D, Darby?

- Boy, there you go.

Those all sound English-sounding names to me.

But the question is, what did Penn call that place where he landed?

It's the oldest community in Pennsylvania.

What would you say it was?

Bernie, we start with you.

- Well, William Penn went into the oil business later.

Did a lot of those big oil tanks in Chester.

- Uh-huh, I see.

- I'll say that it was in Chester.

- [Lynn] So you're going to say B.

Why don't you put up- - B.

- The letter B- - All right.

I keep forgetting.

- And go on actual record by doing that.

Diane, what do you think?

Well, that was beautiful logic.

(laughing) But I have another reason, because I did brush up on Pennsylvania facts.

- Great.

- And I think I know this one, and I think it is also Chester.

- Aha.

- B.

- Same answer, but for a slightly different reason.

You knew something as opposed to- (everyone laughing) Kevin?

- [Diane] Maybe I shouldn't have said that.

(laughing) - I certainly didn't know anything, so we don't have to worry about that.

- [Lynn] Yeah.

- I thought it was Philadelphia.

But that seems too obvious, and- - Uh-huh, it does seem too obvious.

- And she seems to know something, so.

(everyone laughing) - I have never in my life seen anybody as easily convinced.

Sometimes they're all right when they do that.

But sometimes, let's see.

- [Wendy] The answer is B Chester.

The area was just south of what would become Philadelphia, the city planned by Penn.

He found the beautiful valley of the Brandywine reminiscent of Cheshire England, so he named the area Chester.

- That's Chester from Cheshire.

I guess Cheshire's too hard to say down that way.

But it's a beautiful, beautiful part of Pennsylvania.

And so far Bernie's ahead because he got the answer right first.

(panelists laughing) No, it's a three-way tie.

This will separate them what knows from them what's only guessin', I do believe.

This moves up in Pennsylvania history a little bit.

- [Wendy] Pennsylvanian David Wilmot won fame while serving the U.S. Congress for introducing the Wilmot Proviso in 1846.

Did the Wilmot Proviso provide for, A, no slavery in land bought from Mexico; B, free public schooling for females; C, free land for homesteaders; or D, establishment of military academy at West Point.

- Okay, David Wilmot, whose name every school boy and girl learns quite early because of the Wilmot Proviso or proviso I believe sometimes, depending on whether you latinize it or not, I guess.

Anyway, what did it provide for?

See, I remembered all those names, but I never could remember what they were for.

Diane Frye, you get to start on this one.

- Well, I'm just glad I don't have to say the question, 'cause I can't pronounce that, but seeing as I'm the only female on the panel, I think I should say B, free public schooling for females.

- Okay, free public schooling for females.

That would've been rather radical in those days.

Kevin.

- As if I know what I'm talking... What year was this again?

- This was the year 1846.

- 1846.

- Yeah.

Just after 1845.

Right before 1847.

- Well.

- [Lynn] That narrows it down for ya.

- Yeah, I think we ought to have girls in school.

- You're gonna copy off- (everyone laughing) Listen, we're gonna make you sit by yourself if you don't quit copying off Diane.

Bernie, what do you say?

- I'm ahead of Diane, because I can pronounce either proviso or proviso.

- Yeah, but which- - But I don't know what the answer is.

- But which is it?

- I'm quite sure it's... That was about the time of the Mexican War, the Mexican Acquisition.

- Ah, okay, back in 1846. you think it was the slavery was an issue?

Yes, I think so.

- Back in (indistinct).

Well, let's see what it was.

The Wilmot Proviso.

- [Wendy] The answer is A, no slavery in land bought from Mexico.

(audience cheering) The Wilmot Proviso never passed, but it crystallized the conflict between North and South and helped lay the foundation for the Republican party.

- That's the amazing thing to me, is that it never passed, but it really did set the whole debate- - It didn't pass?

- For the Civil War.

No, never passed.

It set the debate for the Civil War and really provided for the foundation of the Republican party.

So David Wilmot from Pennsylvania did quite a service for history.

Yes, Mr. Nelson.

- I just do better when Bernie goes first.

(Lynn laughing) - I'm sorry I steered you wrong.

- [Lynn] Bernie does, you have a way of orienting yourself to these things, and what amazes me is that you sometimes come up for the, with the right answer for the wrong reason and sometimes the wrong answer for the right reason.

- You've got it.

But never either the wrong for the wrong or the right for the right.

It's a disability I have.

- Put 'em both there.

Diane Fry's a native of Johnstown, Pennsylvania.

We're delighted to have you here, Diane.

You're not only... You are news producer at Channel 6, WJC.

- Mmhmm, NBC affiliate in Johnstown.

- [Lynn] And you're also something of showbiz in your blood, right?

- Oh, go on.

(laughing) Yeah, I'm in a production of "Godspell" back in Johnstown.

- [Lynn] Little difference between being on stage and being on TV.

- There sure is.

- [Lynn] Yeah, being on stage would scare me to death.

- I have a script that I memorized weeks ago for the other one, and this is- - Yeah.

- A lot more nerve wracking, but fun.

- Yeah, see I memorized those scripts once too when I was on stage, and then that glassy stare you get when you... You know that glassy stare- - Oh yeah.

- Kevin Nelson.

- I've perfected it.

- [Lynn] I've heard you give that glassy stare over the radio in the morning early.

- It's funny, 'cause I was on stage, you may not know this, but I'm slightly dyslexic, and we had a dyslexic theater group, and you may remember our performance of "Annie Get your Nug."

(everyone laughing) - Diane, do you play God or do you spell?

- Neither?

- Oh.

(Diane laughing) - "Godspell's" a nice production.

It must be really fun to do.

- It's great, and it's with a great group of people.

- It's great to have you here.

- Thanks.

- We're gonna go to a little tiny community in Jefferson County this time.

And it's kind of a modern question.

It just took place a year or two ago, Brookville.

- Brookville, Jefferson County, was honored by Pennsylvania's Chamber of Commerce as an outstanding community of 1986.

Buildings well over a century old were restored with loving care, as the faded face of Brookville put on a bright smile.

The Victorian character of fine old homes emerged as Brookville was renewed.

One accomplishment made Brookville the nation's smallest community with a full service, A, hospital; B, YMCA; C, fire department; or D, trolley system.

- Okay, Kevin Nelson, you get to start on this one.

All I wanna know is Brookville has the smallest full service one of these, but which is it, hospital, YMCA, fire department, or trolley system?

I was gonna make gas station, but I looked and there are no more full service gas stations.

They're all pump your own.

(panelists laughing) But which is it?

The smallest community with the full service which one, Kevin?

- Boy, they all look so good, as a panel always says, but trolley system just seems so odd that I'll have to go with that.

- [Lynn] Going with the odd this time?

- Yeah.

- The trolley.

Okay, Bernie, what are you goin' with?

- I'm sorry, I was gonna do this independently, Kevin.

- Oh, okay.

- But I don't really know how you'd call some something a full service hospital or a Y or a fire department.

And I certainly don't know how you'd call something a full service trolley system.

So I think that's the way to go.

- So not knowing what to do, you just...

Yes, Diane, I hope you can think for yourself on this one- - Well, I'm in a lotta trouble because I was hoping you wouldn't ask a Western Pennsylvania question that I did not know.

(laughing) - And you don't know this one.

- And I'm really gonna get in trouble from one of our reporters who is from Brookville, but seeing as how B has been a favorite letter of mine, I'm going to use it again.

- You're going with the letter B, the YMCA.

You think Brookville is the smallest community with a full service YMCA.

Well let's see if she's right or wrong.

- [Wendy] The answer is B, YMCA.

(audience laughing and clapping) Brookville residents did build a needed new hospital, and the more than half a million dollars raised locally restored the obsolete YMCA to its original 1915 newness.

Membership doubled, making Brookville the nation's smallest community with a full service YMCA.

- Thinking these are open more than a couple hours a day.

Diane can go home safely now.

She got that one correct.

And our score has just been tied by Diane, and that means Bernie and Diane are tied with two.

Let's hear it for our- (audience cheering) Kevin is a closer, I might add.

He likes to lay back- - That's right.

- And then come on strong right at the end or go home.

Mystery clue number one.

We have a mystery Pennsylvanian.

We give you three clues throughout the course of the show, and panel, if you know the right answer, just write it on number one on that card that you have there.

Now you know that William Penn and Ben Franklin, neither one were born in Pennsylvania, but both of them became known as Mr. Philadelphia.

Our mystery Pennsylvanian is like Penn and Franklin.

He was not born in Pennsylvania, but he was thought of as Mr. Philadelphia.

There is a very heavy clue.

Not born in Pennsylvania, but he came to be thought of as Mr. Philadelphia.

Our panel is thinking hard.

You can see the wheels turning.

You can hear the thoughts turning inside their minds, but they don't know yet.

So let's get to our next question while they're thinkin' about it.

This is a favorite question of mine.

There's a lady named Miller, Mrs. Miller, and something that she did.

- [Wendy] When Congress passed a war tax in 1798, Grandy Miller of Macungie Lehigh County did something that gave the rebellion against the tax its popular name.

Was it called the A, Whiskey Rebellion; B, Stamp Tax Rebellion; C, Hot Water Rebellion; or D, Potato Rebellion.

- Old Grandy Miller, 1798, Lehigh County back in the, when we were just a young pup of a nation and Pennsylvania was just gettin' on its feet, she did something that gave this tax rebellion its popular name.

And those were all popular names, Bernie, but which one, is the question?

Whiskey, Stamp, Hot Water, or Potato Rebellion.

- Is it legal to choose E?

- [Lynn] None of the above?

No one of these is correct.

- Actually, she was a potato lover.

- Uh-huh, and she- - And she began throwing potatoes.

- Throwing potatoes.

- (indistinct) She really did.

- That's got a lot of logic to it.

- Never mashed them.

- But it may not be right.

Diane, what do you say?

- Is it legal to pass your turn?

- [Lynn] No, you cannot pass your turn.

You gotta pick one of the above.

- Well, I hate to be a bore, but it's works so far, so I'm gonna pick B, Stamp Tax Rebellion.

- Grandy just looks from her picture like she might like to lick stamps.

Yes, Kevin?

- There was one day that I didn't sleep through my history class, and on that one day we talked about something called the Whiskey Rebellion.

Now, whether it has anything to do with this or not, I have no idea.

- So we have a potato, we have a stamp, and we have a whiskey.

We don't have any hot water, so we can't take a bath.

What did Grandy Miller do?

And what was it called?

- [Wendy] The answer is C, the Hot Water Rebellion.

The tax was based on the number and size of windows in each house.

When the tax collectors came to measure the windows in Grandy Miller's house, they got hot water dumped on their heads.

- They were looking for a fair way to pass a tax so what they did, they said if you're rich enough to have a lotta windows, you must be able to pay a lotta tax.

And so they went over and measured everybody's windows and counted the number.

And Grandy was upstairs, and she just dumped hot water down on 'em, and it got to be called the Hot Water Tax Rebellion.

Lehigh County in the east, whiskey was out in the west and so forth.

But you all missed that.

So give me a point.

They're all missin' that over there.

This next one is one I've got, if I had to pick maybe 10 of my all-time favorite questions, this was one I would pick, because this is one that is a distinguished, I think, Pennsylvania, man.

Let's listen.

- [Wendy] O.W.

Norton of the 83rd Pennsylvania was a soldier in the Civil War.

He holds a distinction.

Was Norton the first soldier in that war, A, to be hanged as a spy; B, to earn a purple heart; C, to pilot a submarine; or D, to play taps on the bugle?

- O.W.

Norton.

He was a soldier from the 83rd Pennsylvania in the Civil War.

And what did he do?

The first soldier of that war to do this particular thing.

Diane, we get to start with you.

Are you a civil war buff at all?

- Well actually I'm reading "Gone with the Wind," and that's as close as I got.

And he isn't in "Gone With the Wind."

- No, he's not.

He should be, though.

- No.

- He belongs in there.

- But I think to be hanged as a spy is a very interesting answer.

So that is mine.

- [Lynn] If I were O.W.

Norton, I'd find that very interesting.

Kevin, what do you find interesting there?

- That's not B.

You're confusing me.

- I'm sorry.

- [Lynn] She's getting off B and going to A.

- Actually, I used to be a trumpet player, and I think I remember this.

He was the the first guy to play taps on the bugle.

They were doing it on the kazoo before they- (Lynn laughing) - I see.

- Nobody would go to sleep.

(everyone laughing) - They all got their kazoos out, and they had concerts every night.

Yes, Bernie, what, what do you make outta this?

- My recollection, I remember once being surprised at how early in our history the Order of the Purple Heart was established.

And I'm gonna guess that it was the Civil War, and that he won it.

- So it could have been.

And you're eschewing the kazoo answer is what you're saying.

What is the right answer?

- [Wendy] The answer is D, to play taps on the bugle.

(audience cheering) General Daniel Butterfield reworked the last five bars of the Tattoo, adapted from a French bugle call.

O.W.

Norton of the 83rd Pennsylvania polished it and was first to play taps on a bugle as the call to end the soldier's day.

- See I told you Kevin liked to come from behind.

He did and tied the score.

But actually it wasn't that they played it on the kazoo.

There was no taps until O.W.

Norton really helped to compose the thing.

And so it was played for the first time, not just in the Civil War, but in the world anywhere.

And O.W.

Norton of Pennsylvania was the first guy to play it.

Two and two and two, the panel is all tied up.

Let's give 'em all some encouragement here.

(audience cheering) No, no, come back, Kevin.

When they were yelling, "Go Kevin," they meant go and get 'em right, not go home.

Kevin's a little sensitive.

Clue number two for our mystery Pennsylvanian.

Both owner and manager of a sports team for 50 years, he was liked and respected for the 93 years of his life.

That's clue number two.

A owner and manager of a sports team for 50 years, liked and respected the 93 years of his life.

The first clue was, though he was not born in Pennsylvania he became known as Mr. Philadelphia.

If you know the name of that on line two, panel, and if you'd like to drop us a line while the panel is thinking, let me give you our address.

You can write to us in care of The Pennsylvania Game, Wagner Annex, University Park, PA 16802.

An idea for a question for a mystery Pennsylvanian or just to say, hi neighbor, we like the show, keep it up, or whatever.

Oh, there is not only, as Bernie Asbell found out, not only is there a magazine called The Pennsylvania Game News, but there is a commission in Pennsylvania called the Pennsylvania Game Commission.

That's not us, Bernie.

- They write our questions.

- Yes.

- [Wendy] The State Game Commission recently made a trade with Michigan to get Sichuan cock pheasants.

What did Michigan get in return?

A, turkeys; B, elk; C, trout; or D, grouse.

- They sent us- - Yeah, they sent us those Sichuan pheasants 'cause they went well in Pennsylvania, and we said we'll trade you so many of which one?

If we'd been better traders, it'd been rattlesnakes, I think.

Massasauga rattlesnakes.

What do you say, Kevin?

Which one of those four?

- Okay, you put grouse in there 'cause you know I know that's the state bird, and you're hoping I'll go for that.

And we know Benjamin Franklin was a big turkey fan.

- [Lynn] Yeah, he was.

- And if Benjamin Franklin were one of the answers, I'd pick it, and that's the closest we're gonna, so.

- So, we're going with Benjamin Franklin.

- I can't imagine- (indistinct) - [Lynn] Bernie.

- Yeah, and I'm tempted towards trout, 'cause we got so many trout.

But Michigan probably got its own trout.

There's a lot of...

It's a very watery state.

I think I too will go with turkeys.

- We have two turkeys and Diane.

What do you say?

(everyone laughing) - I am not a turkey.

I am a grouse.

- You're a grouse.

- Yes.

- ADA we have spelled.

All right, what did we trade for those pheasants?

Did we trade turkeys or grouse or somethin' else?

- The answer is A, turkeys.

47 of Pennsylvania's crafty turkeys were trapped and traded to Michigan.

Ring-neck pheasants have been declining with the disappearance of cultivated farmland.

It's hoped that cross breeding with the Sichuan will produce a pheasant that likes brushy cover, much like our ruffed grouse.

- Well, sure, we're tryin' to breed pheasants, Diane, that have the same kinda habits that grouse have.

So we traded some turkeys for them, and these two turkeys got one right on that one.

And that's very, very nice.

Do you know what was the tallest building in colonial America?

Well, it was in Philadelphia.

And if you don't know, you're about to learn.

Let's listen.

- [Wendy] It's 196-foot bell tower made Philadelphia's Christ Church the tallest structure in colonial America.

Many church bells were engraved with the Latin words Fulgara Frango.

Do the words Fulgara Frango mean, A, I ring free; B, I bring glory; C, I proclaim victory; or D, I break up lightning.

- Okay, lots of those bells.

And thanks to Barry Carney, who selects all the background music for these questions.

Does a marvelous job, I think.

Bernie, we're back to you.

What do those words on the bells mean?

Fulgara Frango?

- A has a nice colonial freedom ring to it.

- I ring free.

Yeah, Diane- - I can see that on a colonial license plate.

- [Lynn] Yeah, Fulgara... Maybe we can get that on our, Fulgara Frango.

Diane.

- I'm really not copying, honest.

I think Fulgara Frango sounds like I ring free, so.

- Okay.

(indistinct) - Kevin, you're a Latin scholar, I know.

- I thought it meant try our thick, creamy shakes.

(everyone laughing) - [Lynn] That wasn't it.

(everyone laughing) - I don't wanna, I don't wanna- - I wish that were a choice.

(everyone laughing) So, go with something here.

- I don't know.

I break up lightning for... - Oh you break up- - Absolutely no particular good reason.

- You break up me.

I know that.

About the lightning part.

Latin scholars, what does Fulgara Frango mean?

- [Wendy] The answer is D, I break up lightning.

(audience cheering) In colonial Pennsylvania bells were often rung during storms to drive off lightning.

Since lightning sometimes struck church steeples, bell ringing was a dangerous occupation.

Many churchmen opposed Ben Franklin's invention of the lightning rod, because lightning was thought to be divine judgment.

- That's one of the things that blew my mind is that they thought that you shouldn't put lightning rods up because lightning is divine judgment.

And Johann Fischer wrote in Munich that between 1751 and 1784, 33 years, lightning hit 386 church steeples and killed 103 bell ringers.

So it was dangerous to be a bell ringer.

And the words Frango, I break up lightning, they went out and rang the bells to break up the storm.

You see?

- It's also dangerous being on a panel with Kevin, I'll tell ya.

- Oh it is.

That's a daring answer.

A courageous answer on your part.

- Wow, you're gonna ground me now.

- This next one is designed to trick you, and let's see if you get it right.

It's a tough question.

- [Wendy] We learned that General George McClellan ran for the presidency against Lincoln in 1864 and lost.

Three other native Pennsylvanians ran for the presidency and lost.

Which of these candidates was not born in Pennsylvania?

A, General Winfield Scott Hancock; B, Alf Landon; C, James G. Blaine, or D, Charles Evans Hughes.

- Okay, these guys all ran for the presidency and lost, which one of the four was not born in Pennsylvania?

Hancock ran against Garfield in 1880, Alf Landon in 1936 against FDR; Blaine ran against Cleveland in 1884; and Charles Evan Hughes ran against Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

Three of those were born in Pennsylvania.

One was not.

Diane, which one?

Not a native.

- I'll tell ya, I'm gonna go for B for a very logical answer, for very logical reasons, because I don't think we'd let anybody named Alf in Pennsylvania.

- Uh-oh, you just said that to Pennsylvania's number one Alf fan, Kevin.

- Well, I'm gonna go with B, but because, first of all, I'm an Alf fan, and it's on your darn station.

(everyone laughing) And he's from some other state.

He's Kansas or somebody's native son, I think.

- Alrighty, and we leave it now to our political expert, Mr. Bernard Asbell, who knows all about that kinda stuff.

- If Alf Landon was not born in Kansas with a sunflower in his hand, I think Kansas would deny it.

- What about Blaine of Maine?

James G. Blaine, the favorite son of Maine?

This could be a confusing trick question.

You never know.

Which one of these was not born in Pennsylvania?

- [Wendy] The answer is D, Charles Evans Hughes of New York.

General Winfield Scott Hancock, born near Norristown, won fame at Gettysburg as the leader who turned back Pickett's famous charge.

Hancock was the Democratic candidate who lost to James Garfield in 1880.

James G. Blaine, who lost to Democratic candidate Grover Cleveland in 1884, was born in West Brownsville.

Alf Landon, the Republican who lost so decisively to FDR in 1936, was born in West Middlesex, Pennsylvania.

- And Alf Landon, of course, who just died a year or so ago, up in his 90s, I believe, was known as the Governor of Kansas and identified with Kansas, but he was actually a native of Pennsylvania.

And I just predicted you'd all get that wrong.

And I predicted accurately.

- I believe he had just hit 100 when he died.

- Very close.

- It was days after he hit 100.

- [Lynn] And his daughter or granddaughter who's- - His daughter is a member of the United States Senate.

- United States Senate.

- Nancy Kassebaum.

- And James G. Blaine, of course, went up to Maine and made his, but he was also a native Pennsylvanian.

All but Hughes, who was from California, I believe.

I stumped them again.

But I told you Kevin liked to come from behind.

Didn't I tell you that?

Well, Kevin just came from behind to take a lead.

Kevin has four right.

And that's the most on our panel.

Kevin Nelson gets a round of applause.

(audience cheering) I break up lightning, indeed.

(laughing) Alright, clue number three to our mystery, Pennsylvanian.

He didn't smoke, drink, or swear.

His stiff collars and high buttoned shoes were his trademark along with his straw hat and his scorecard.

Clue number one, of course, he was thought of as Mr. Philly, Mr. Philadelphia, though not born in Pennsylvania.

He was owner and manager of a sports team for 50 years and lived to be 93 years old.

Do you know, Kevin Nelson, who is our mystery Pennsylvanian?

- Now I don't think I do.

After clue two, I thought it was Harold Katz.

- [Lynn] Harold Katz.

- I think he owned the 76ers.

- Okay, Diane, do you have a guess for us?

- I don't think I know anybody who doesn't smoke, drink, or swear.

(everyone laughing) - Good answer.

Bernie?

Bernie has Connie Mack crossed out.

- Oh I see.

- 'Cause I didn't think of it till the line two.

- So you got it on the line two.

Let's see if Connie Mack is indeed the gentleman that we have in mind.

Who did you think was our mystery Pennsylvanian, Did you think Connie Mack?

Well, let's see if it fits the clues.

Let's hear.

- [Wendy] Connie Mack was born Cornelius McGillicuddy in 1862 in the state of Massachusetts.

His career in baseball lasted 76 years.

Connie Mack started as a catcher, but his fame came as a manager.

He first managed in Pittsburgh, then spent 50 years managing the Philadelphia Athletics.

He handled some of baseball's all-time greats.

He helped build baseball's first steel and concrete stadium, Shibe Park, later renamed Connie Mack Stadium.

He sold his beloved Athletics in 1954 and died a year and a half later.

Mr. Connie Mack, a famous Pennsylvanian.

- I gotta tell you, he was the last baseball manager not to wear a baseball uniform.

He managed in this suit and straw hat.

And he was such a dignified reserve gentleman, once Lefty Grove, the great pitcher, got mad at him and said, "To hell with you, Mr.

Mack."

And Mack replied, "To hell with you, Mr.

Grove."

And I thought that was just a marvelous story.

He was just so reserved and so dignified and so forth.

Connie Mack, a great, great, great, great Pennsylvanian.

Have some fun, did you, Diane?

- I did.

- Okay, we would like to invite you back again to play- - I'd love to come, it was great.

We had a number of interesting questions.

I'm surprised you got...

I thought you'd go for Alf Landon on that question.

- I knew you thought I would, but you know, on Connie Mack, he reminds me of my regret about today's baseball.

All the players talk like graduate students.

- Yes.

- That's not the way it used to be.

- Yes, that's exactly right.

But Connie Mack was...

He used to wave his scorecard and move the outfielders around, and he actually helped to build the first concrete and steel stadium ever built.

Which was named for him later on.

Connie Mack Stadium.

- I'm gonna go break up some lightning.

- [Lynn] What did you say you thought that meant?

- Try our thick, creamy shakes.

- Try our thick and creamy shakes.

You break me up.

You did well today, Kevin.

So mark this one down on your calendar.

Thanks, audience, for being here, and thank to you panel, and thanks to you all at home, too.

Hope you'll join us next time when we all gather right here again to play The Pennsylvania Game.

See ya then.

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