WELCOME TO "KENTUCKY TONIGHT."

I'M RENEE SHAW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

WE ARE FOUR WEEKS AND ONE DAY OUT FROM THE MIDTERM ELECTION, AND TONIGHT TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING AT RACES IN THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN DISTRICTS 1, 2 AND 3.

IN DISTRICT 1, CONGRESSMAN JAMES COMER, A REPUBLICAN, IS RUNNING FOR HIS FOURTH TERM IN THE U.S.

HE MET OUR CRITERIA TO APPEAR AND ACCEPTED OUR INVITATION.

HIS DEMOCRATIC OPPONENT IS JAMES AUSBROOKS WHO DID NOT MEET OUR WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

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WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO IT SINCE OUR TIME IS SHORT.

YOU ARE RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

IF THERE IS A GOP TAKE OVER IN NOVEMBER OF THE HOUSE AND YOU BECOME CHAIRMAN OF SIGNATORY COMMITTEE THAT HAS SUBPOENA POWER, WHAT TYPES OF INVESTIGATIONS DO YOU WANT TO INITIATE RIGHT OFF THE BAT?

>> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON ELIMINATING WASTE, FRAUD, ABUSE AND MISMANAGEMENT IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE'VE ALSO GOING TO INVESTIGATE ANYTHING THAT WE CONSIDER TO BE A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT.

AND RIGHT NOW THERE ARE THREE MAJOR NATIONAL SECURE THREATS THAT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE PLAY A BIG ROLE IN THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.

NUMBER ONE IS WE BELIEVE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER IS AN ACTUAL SECURITY THREAT, AND WE WANT TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

NOT ONLY DO WE WANT TO GET THE BORDER UNDER CONTROL, WE WANT TO HOLD PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MAKING DECISIONS ON ALLOWING THE BORDER TO BE SO LOOSE AND TO ALLOW SO MANY ILLEGAL DRUGS AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND ILLEGALS ACROSS THE BORDER WE WANT TO HOLD SOME PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.

SECOND WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON ORIGINATION OF COVID.

WE BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHO KNEW A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THAT LAB THAN THEY HAVE ADMITTED.

AND WE WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT AND HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

THEN THE LAST ONE THAT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS A LOT LATELY IS WE BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT'S SON AND BROTHERS ARE NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT.

WE BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN INFLUENCED, PEDDLING FOR A LONG TIME SO WE'RE GOING TO HOLD SOME VERY HIGH PROFILE BIDEN FAMILY INFLUENCE PEDDLING INVESTIGATIONS IN THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

>> IS THAT GOING TO START WITH HUNTER BIDEN, IF SON.

>>> IT WILL START THE HUNTER BIDEN PFM I'VE BEEN SAYING FORE MONTHS THAT HE'LL PROBABLY GET INDICTED BETWEEN THE INDICTMENT AND JANUARY.

THAT INDICTMENT WILL PROBABLY SHIELD HIM FROM HAVING TO SHOW UP IN FRONT OF THE CONGRESS BUT THEN ALREADY BEEN FACTORED IN.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HEARINGS WITH HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, WITH SOME BASICKERS WHO ISSUEDAL THOSE BANK VIOLATIONS THAT HE HAD AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE.

SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TO HAVE A VERY CREDIBLE HEARING RIGHT OFF THE BAT IN EARLY JANUARY.

>> BUT YOU HAVE SAID IN SOME RECENTLY INTERVIEWS, TIME MAGAZINE ONE OF THEM, THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY CARAT TO SOME OF THAT REPUBLICAN RHETORIC ABOUT THE BIDEN, HUNTER BIDEN TO GO DEEP DOWN INTO HIS PERSONAL AFFAIRS AND DEALINGS AND AIR ON IT THAT LAUNDRY ABOUT THE YET IT SEEMS YOU MIGHT BE GOING THAT ROUTE BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE ON FOX NEWS, YOU SEEMED TO COMMUNICATE A DIFFERENT MESSAGE.

WHICH ONE IS IT IN.

>> WELL, WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON ALL THE PORNOGRAPHIC MATERIAL, ALL THE VIDEOS THAT HE TAPED OF HIMSELF IN DETOX TANK SPOKE HADDING CRACK PIPES AND ALL THAT.

THAT MEANS SMOG TO ME.

HIS PERSONAL LIFE MEANS NOTHING TO ME.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON FOX NEWS AS NEW REVELATION THAT HE WAS INVOLVED WITH HIS SECRETARY WHO IS PROBABLY A CHINESE SEMI.

SHE WAS WORKING WITH THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.

A CHINESE SPY.

SHE'S DISAPPEARED.

AND SHE WAS PROVIDING A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR HUNTER TO TRY TO INFLUENCE PEDYEL WITH THE UNITED STATES.

SO THAT'S A PROBLEM.

IT'S THE SAME PROBLEM ERIC SWALLWELL HAD WITH HIS MISTRESS WHO IS NAME WAS FANG FANG.

SO HUMANITARIANS GOT AN ISSUE WITH HIS FORMER GIRLFRIEND WHO WAS A CHINESE SPY.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE FOCUSED ON INFLUENCE PEDDLING.

I BELIEVE THAT HUNTER BIDEN AND HIS YOU CAN JIM WERE UNREGISTERED FEDERAL AGENTS.

THAT MEANS THEY WERE LOBBYING FOR FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS, FIRST OF ALL, NEACE ILLEGAL WHEN YOUR IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER IS A HIGH-RANKING GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL AT THE TIME THEIR BROTHER AND FATHER WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE REGISTERED.

AND IT'S THE SAME THING THAT MICHAEL FLYNN GOT DIETED AND ALMOST WENT TO PRISON OVER, WAS BEING UNREGISTERED FEDERAL AGENT.

SO THERE'S SOME VERY SERIOUS CRIMES HERE.

AND WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIONS OR THE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE HAVE BEEN SERIOUS ABOUT TRYING TO INVESTIGATE THIS AND HOLD ANYONE ACCOUNTABLE.

>> DO YOU HAVE MATERIALS AND INTELLIGENCE ALREADY IN YOUR POSSESSION, HARD DRIVES OR COPIES HARD DRIVES OF HUNTER BIDEN'S AND HOW DID YOU GET THAT?

HOW DID YOU OBTAIN THOSE MATERIALS?

>> WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IS WHEN EL BLOWERS.

I CAN'T SAY HOW WE GOT TO COPY OF THE HARD DRIVE BUT WE HAVE A COPY OF THE HARD DRIVE.

THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN GOING ON THE NATION MEDIA OUTLETS, TIME, WASHINGTON JOURNAL, POST, FOX NEWS AND CNN TALKING ABOUTTEAU MESSAGES, POWERPOINT WHERE THERE I WAS MAP OF THE UNITED STATES IN CHINESE.

THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND OUT THAT PART OF WHAT HUNTER BIDEN WAS DOING THROUGH HIS COMPANY HUDSON WEST WHICH TONY BOB LYNN SKI SAID ON TUCKER CARLSON HAS WEEK THAT JOE BIDEN WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF, WERE NOT ONLY TRYING TO SELL THE CHINESE-AMERICAN NATURAL GAS, THEY WERE TRYING TO HELP THE CHINESE BUY AN INTEREST IN AMERICAN DRILLERS OF NATURAL GAS.

SO VERY SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS HERE WITH eMAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES THAT KIND OF APPROVE THANK THERE'S A SMOKING GUN THERE.

>> SO WHAT ARE THE CHARGES THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO LEVY HERE?

AND WHAT WOULD BE THE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES?

BLAH ERR.

>> WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A TRANSPARENT HEARING.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE SOME KIND OF COMMITTEE LIKE THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NANCY PROCEEDS ARE E. OR STENY HOYER OR WHOEVER IS IN CHARGES THEY CAN HAVE THEIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

EACH SIDE IS GOING TO REAT A TIME WITH FIVE MINUTES QUESTIONING AND WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE BANKERS EXACTLY WHAT THOSE 150 BANK VIOLATIONS WERE THAT HUNTER BIDEN AND HIS BROTHER WERE WRITTEN UP ON THAT CONGRESS USED TO HAVE ACCESS TO BUT JOE BIDEN CHANGED THE RULES TO WHERE WE ARE BLOCKED FROM HAVING ACCESS.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO FIND OUT EXACTLY FROM HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATES WHAT THESE COMPANIES WERE DOING TO RECEIVE PAYMENT.

WE'VE GOT BANK RECORDS WHERE THEY RECEIVED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM CHINA, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM RAUSCH AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM RHINE.

RUSSIA.

UKRAINE.

WHAT EXACTLY WERE THOSE PAYMENTS FOR IN I THINK THAT WILL TELL A STORY ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THE BIDEN FAMILY WAS DOING WITH RESPECT TO INFLUENCE PEDDLING.

>> AS YOU KNOW DEMOCRATS HAVE TAKEN SOME JABS AT WHAT THEY THINK OF YOUR PLANS IF YOU COME INTO POWER.

THEY CALL AT A PICKLEIT U.

"MILK" HIT JOB MASQUERADING AS AN INVESTIGATION.

HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT HUNTER BIDEN AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BIDEN FAMILY WON'T BE LIKE THE BENGHAZI WHIT WAS EXPENSIVE, COSTLY AND NOTHING I CRIMINAL WAS FOUND?

>> CERTAINLY WHAT I HAVE SAID IS EVERYTHING THAT HAS MY SIGNATURE ON IT IS GOING TO BE FACTUAL.

UNLIKE ADAM SCHIFF.

IT'S PRETTY HYPOCRITICAL FOR DEMOCRATS TO WRIT SIZE ME INVESTIGATING HUNTER BIDEN WHEN WE HAVE PROOF THAT HE WAS VIOLATING MANY LAWS.

HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET INDICTED ANY DAY FOR TAX EVASION, PERHAPS MONEY LAUNDER AND FOR LYING ON A GUN APPLICATION.

BUT AT THE VERY LEAST THE DEMOCRATS SPENT FOUR YEARS INVESTIGATING FRUMP.

THEORY STILL INVESTIGATING FRUMP AND TRUMP'S CHILDREN.

AND YOU LOOK AT THE ACCUSATIONS OF RUCKS COLLUSION, THEY NEVER APPROVED ANYTHING AND IT WAS ALL BASED ON A FALSEHOOD WHICH WAS THE STEELE DOSSIER.

WE NOW KNOW YOU NOW KNOW THE WASH POST SAID THAT WAS COMPLETE FICTION.

IS ON WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED ARE REAL AUDIO RECORDINGS FROM VOICE MESSAGES FROM THE LAPTOP, EMAILS, TEXT MESSAGES AND HAVE BEEN WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH IS WHEN EL BLOWERS WHO HAVE TOLD ME THEY'RE GOING TO COME FORWARD IN A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.

IF WE FLIP THE HOUSE, THEY'RE GOING TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH ABOUT JUST EXACTLY WHAT THE BIDEN FAMILY WAS DOING TO PROFIT OFF THE BIDEN LAST NAME.

>> SOME AMERICANS WOULD SAY THAT IN ADDITION TO INVESTIGATING HUNTER BIDEN WHAT SHOULD YOU BE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO THE JANUARY 6th INSURRECTION?

AND THAT'S A WORD THAT SENATE MAJORITY LEADER MITCH McCONNELL HAS USED IS AND THE FBI'S SEARCH OF FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP EAST MAR-A-LAGO RESIDENCE?

WOULD THOSE INVESTIGATIONS HAPPEN UNDER YOUR COMMITTEE.

>> >> THEY WON'T HAPPEN UNDER MY COMMITTEE BUT I BELIEVE THEY WILL STILL BE INTERCEPTED THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW.

THEY ARE GOING TO ISSUE A REPORT.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HAVE THESE COMMITTEE HEARINGS FOREVER.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO WRAP IT UP AT SOME POINT.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO WRAP UP AND ISSUE A REPORT PROBABLY ANY WEEK NOW.

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THE JANUARY 6th RIOT IS A RIOT, WAS A RIOT, WAS AN INSURRECTION?

>> GAS A RIOT.

I WAS ON THE FLOOR.

I WAS THE ONLY BERN FROM KENTUCKY WHO WAS ON THE HOUSE FLOOR, AND IF ANYONE TELLS YOU IT WAS NO BIG DEAL, THEY OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T THERE.

IT WAS A VERY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE.

THAT IS A SAD INNATE HISTORY OF AMERICA AND IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

-- A SAD DAY IN THE HISTORY AMERICA.

MY PERSONAL OPINION ISIT WAS A RALLY THAT GOT OUT OF HAND AND VERY UNFORTUNATE, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FORE WRONGDOING, THE PEOPLE THAT BROKE -- THAT BUSTED THROUGH WINDOWS, THAT DAMAGED PROPERTY AND CERTAINLY THAT ASSAULTED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THEY ARE BEING HELD EWLES WE SPEAK.

>> DO YOU SUPPORT ANOTHER ONE RUN FOR PRESIDENT BY FORMER PRESIDENT FRUMP?

DO YOU WANT HIM TO ARENA IN 2024.

>> >> RIGHT NOW I'M FOCUSED ON THE HOUSE FLIPPING.

I HOPE THAT PEOPLE VOTE IS FOR ME FOR RELEASING IN THE 1st CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AND HOPEFULLY THE REPUBLICANS WILL TAKE THE MAJOR THAT WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK NAINS ANNOUNCED FOR PRESIDENT YET.

CERTAIN EVERYONE IS WAITED TO SEE WHAT FRUMP WILL DO.

BUT UNTIL HE DECIDES, I DON'T THINK IT'S A -- >> SO THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN 700 DAYS SINCE THE PRESIDENTIAL KWON TEST OF 2020 AND CLAIMS MY BY FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP SYSTEMIC VOTER FRAUD HAVE NOT BORNE OUT.

EVEN SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN ASSOCIATES CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME AND THE COURTS HAVE SAID THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WAS UNFAIRLY DONE THERE, THAT BIDEN RIGHTFULLY WON THE ELECTION.

DO YOU BELIEVE THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?

>> I VOTED TO CERTIFY, AND I'M A IN A HUGE REPUBLICAN DISTRICT, BUT THERE WERE PROBLEMS, RENEE, WITH THE ELECTION.

I'M FROM MONROE COUNTY.

I'VE LIVED THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS IN MONROE COUNTY FISCAL COURT WHEN A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COURTHOUSE WENT TO JAIL FOR DISPROPORTIONATE FRAUD.

EVERY TIME THAT VOTER FRAUD REVOLVED AROUND ABSENTEE ABUSE.

AND WHAT HAPPENED DURING COVID, A LOT OF STATE'S LOOSENED THEIR ABSENTEE LAWS.

AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE TIGHT ABSENTEE LAWS.

I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ABSENTEE BUT YOU SHOULD -- YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE UNIVERSAL ABSENTEE BALLOTS.

THAT IS A SITUATION RIPE FOR FRAUD THERE.

SO I THINK THAT THE WAY THE RULES WERE CHANGED IN THE NAME OF COVID BENEFITED JOE BIDEN, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THOSE STATES ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN, AND THE 50 STATES CERTIFIED THE ELECTION RESULTS, SO ONCE THE 50 STATES CERTIFIED THE ELECTION RESULTS, THERE WAS NOTHING CONGRESS COULD DO, REALLY, AND THAT WAS THE SHAME OF JANUARY 6th.

THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WAS GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THAT ELECTION.

ONCE ALL 50 STATES CERTIFIED THE RESULTS, ESSENTIALLY OVER.

>> SO IT TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE OVERSEE THE COMMITTEE, BUT FOR THE FOLKS OF THE 1st CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHO WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AS A MEMBER, NOT JUST AS A CHAIRMAN, POTENTIALLY, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM IN THE MINUTE REMAINING?

>> I WANT TO GET THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYERS.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE EXCESSIVE SPENDING IN WASHINGTON.

WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY AND YOU ALWAYS HERE CANDIDATES SAY I WANT TO SHRINK THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT ORE REDUCE WASTES, FRAUD AND ABUSE AND NOBODY DOES ANYTHING WYMT GOING TO BE IN A POSITION, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL IN JANUARY, TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

IN ADDITION TO THE HEARINGS WHICH WILL BE IN THE HUES NEWS A LOT WE'RE ALSO DISABILITY WORKING HARD IN SUBCOMMITTEE HEARINGS THAT WILL NEVER BE IN THE NEWS UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON TRYING TO ELIMINATE WASTEFUL SPENDING AND UNNEED BUREAUCRACIES.

I WORK HARD IN MY TOMPKINSVILLE OFFICE WITH CASEWORK.

WE DO A LOT TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, WE'RE FRYING DO GET TAX REFUNDS.

BEING A MEMBER OF CORN ISN'T JUST VOTING ON BILLS.

IT'S TRYING TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN YOUR DISTRICTS.

I TRIED TO DO THAT FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS AND I ASK FOR PEOPLE'S SUPPORT FOR RE-ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 8TH.

>> CONGRESSMAN JAMES CORM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WE HOPE YOU'LL STAY WITH US.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH 2ND DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE HANK LINDERMAN RIGHT AFTER THIS BREAK.

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>> Renee: THANK YOU FORE STAYING WITH US ON "KENTUCKY TONIGHT."

I'M RENEE SHAW.

WITH US NOW HANK LINDERMAN.

HE'S A DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IN th THE 2ND DISTRICT.

HE MET OUR CRITERIA AND AGREED TO APPEAR.

HIS REPUBLICAN OPPONENT IS CONGRESSMAN BRETT GUTHRIE WHO DID NOT RESPOND TO OUR INVITATI.

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>> I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE, RENEE.

>> LET'S GET RIGHT TO THINGS.

ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF AS A CITIZEN CANDIDATE AND SAY THAT YOU'RE MORE FOR THE WORKING PEOPLE THAN THE CORPORATIONS, AND YOU SAY THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED MORE IN GOVERNMENT.

WHAT WOULD YOU COMMIT TO YOURSELF TO DOING IN WASHINGTON SHOULD YOU BE ELECTED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF THE 2nd CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT?

>> MY FOCUS WOULD ALWAYS BE HOW CAN WE BENEFIT WORKING PEOPLE.

HOW DOES THIS LAW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR HOW DOES THIS PROGRAM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOUSE IT ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP PEOPLE ON THE GROUND IN THE 2nd SCHOOL DISTRICTING WITH WORKING AMERICANS.

>> WHAT DO THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT A CONGRESSMAN TO DO FOR THEM THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING DONE?

>> I THINK A LOT OF WHAT THEY TALKING ABOUT -- FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S AN AWARENESS THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING TAKEN CARE OF.

BY THE WAY, I REACH ACROSS PARTY LINES QUITE A BIT BECAUSE I THINK THE DIVISION THAT WE'RE FACING IN THE COUNTRY IS A HUGE PROBLEM, AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR THINGS FOLKS CAN AGREE ON, AND THE ONE THING FOLKS AGREE ON IS THAT NEITHER PARTIES DOING A GREAT JOB ACTUALLY TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE.

THAT IS ONE HUNDRED%.

>> SO ISSUE-WISE WHAT DO AT THE THEY WILL YOU A THEY WANT A CONGRESSMAN TO DO FOR THEM?

WHEN IT COMES TO JOBS, THE ECONOMY, HEALTH CARE, WHAT DOUGH THEY SAY ARE THEIR GREATEST CONCERNS?

>> THEY TALK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

THEY TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

THEY TALK ABOUT THIS.

BUT THE MONEY MAIN FOCUS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND IS THAT WORKING PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN SHARING IN THE PROSPERITY OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS, THAT REALLY SINCE THE '80s THE WORKERS' SHARE HAS BEEN DROPPING IN ECONOMY.

WE HAD AN ECONOMY AFTER WORLD WAR II THAT PEOPLE WHO WORKED SHARED IN PROSPERITY AS IT INS CREASED AND THEY GOT A HEALTHY SHARE OF IT, AND WHAT IS BACK WHEN I WAS GROWING UP AND I SUSPECT WHEN YOU WERE GOING UP, YOU BELIEVED THAT YOUR LIFE COULD BE BETTER THAN YOUR PARENTS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THE GENERATION TODAY CANNOT FEEL THAT WAY.

THEY DO NOT FEEL THAT THEIR LIVES WILL BE BETTER THAN THEIR PARENTS.

>> POLITICAL REALITY, THING THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT HE'S ELECTED A DEMOCRAT SINCE MANY WITH NATCHER.

WHY ARE YOU CONVINCED THEY CAN RECLAIM THAT SET SEAT FOR DEMOCRATS?

WHAT TELLS YOU THIS TIME IS THE TIME FOR YOU?

>> BILL NATCHER A BIT OF A CITIZEN CANDIDATE WOULDN'T YOU SAY.

BILL NATCHER DIDN'T TAKE CAMPAIGN FUNDS AND SPENT ALL OF HIS TIME OUT IN THE DISTRICT TALKING WITH FOLKS.

LOOK, THE WORK STILL HAS TO BE DONE, AND THE PROBLEMS THAT THE COUNTRY IS FACING THAT ARE RELATED TO THE BATTLE THAT IS GOING ON BETWEEN THESE TWO PARTIES AND THEY'RE LEAVING THE REST OF THE PEOPLE BEHIND.

SO THERE'S SO MUCH WORK TO BE DONE THAT ENDS WITH DEMOCRATS TAKING BACK OVER IN THE 2nd DISTRICT.

I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY.

THERE WILL BE A DEMOCRAT ONCE AGAIN IN THE 2nd DISTRICT.

I CAN'T SAY WHEN IT WILL BE BUT IT WILL HAPPEN.

>> WHAT POLICY IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S BEEN PASSED SO FAR, CONGRESS HAS APPROVED, THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH?

>> THAT I DISAGREE WITH.

>> OR MAYBE IT HASN'T BEEN PASSED.

MAYBE IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TALKED ABOUT.

>> I HAVEN'T -- I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT I WOULD DISAGREE WITH RIGHT AT THE MOMENT.

>> ARE THERE ANY REPUBLICAN POLICIES THAT YOU SUPPORT?

>> I THINK WE REALLY -- BOTH PARTIES HAVE GOT TO HAVE A GROWN-UP I DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BORDER BECAUSE WE'VE POLIT ADVERTISED THE BORDER AND WE'VE NOW TO GET 2 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR COMING ACROSS THE BORDER.

THERE ARE SO MANY FACTORS INVOLVED WITH THAT.

THERE ARE EXTREME SUGGESTIONS ON EITHER SIDE.

ONE IS LET'S SHUT THE BORDER DOWN AND THE OTHER IS LET'S OPEN THE BOARD UP, AND THOSE ARE EXTREME -- THOSE ARE OPPOSITE.

SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE IS GOING TO BE AN ANSWER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEPOLITICIZE THIS A LITTLE BIT.

WE'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROBLEMS AT THE BORDER HAVE LOTS OF CAUSES.

WHEN CLIMATE CHANGE IS CAUSING FOLKS IN GUATEMALA TO NO LONGER BE ABLE TO FARMLANDS THAT THEY'VE BEEN ON FOR GENERATIONS, THEY HEAD NORTH.

SO WE'RE SEEING PREDICTIONS OF SOMETHING LIKE 3 BILLION PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS MOVING DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT MORE?

JUST A MINUTE BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR ANSWER ABOUT THE BORDERS BECAUSE OUR PREVIOUS GUEST WHO WAS ON WHO CURRENTLY REPRESENTS THE 1st CONGRESSIONAL A DISTRICT TALKED ABOUT THE ILLEGAL DRUGS COMING FROM MEXICO AND THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND THE VIOLENCE.

SO ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE THINGS THAT'S COMING FROM A BORDER POLICY THAT MANY FIND INSUFFICIENT AT THIS TIME?

>> FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO -- I THINK A PHYSICAL BORDER CAN ONLY ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT CONGRESS COULD DO.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF MY GRANT WORK VISA SO THAT FOLKS COULD COME INTO THIS COUNTRY AND WORK LEGAL WELL PAPERWORK AND THEN LEAVE WHEN THEY'RE FINISHED AND BE ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF THEM.

WE COULD, INSTEAD OF GOING IN ARRESTING 200 PEOPLE THAT ARE ILLEGAL WORKERS IN A FACTORY IN I WANT TO SAY -- SORRY, ATLANTA A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WE COULD GO IN AND ARREST THE CEO AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE.

IF WE HELD UPPER MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBLE FOR USING ILLEGAL LABOR, IT WOULD CLEAN UP VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

SO THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE DO THAT WOULD BE EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE THAN BUILDINGS SOME HUGE WALL.

>> AND FOR THE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE ALREADY HERE, WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD HAPPEN?

>> IN 2018 I PROPOSED THAT JULY 4th WOULD BE A CUT-OFF DATE.

IF YOU WERE HERE BEFORE JULY 4th 12018 THAT THERE WOULD BE A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP, AND AS WE MENTIONED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR TEN AND 15 YEARS.

THEY'RE NOT NEW NEWCOMERS.

THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORS AND SO WE SHOULD WELCOME THEM INTO OUR SOCIETY.

>> MOVING ON TO THE TOPIC YOU WERE HINTING AT A MOMENT AGO CLIMATE CHANGE, AND WE CAN LOOK AT RECENT DEVELOPMENTS AND WEATHER PATTERNS TO SHOW FOR MANY PEOPLE THAT APPROVES THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS PREMIUM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE?

AND HOW DO YOU THINK THE CONVERSATION CAN BE DEPOLITICIZED TO MOVE TOWARDS CONVERSATIONS THAT HELP ENERGIES IT IS BUT ALSO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT?

>> I THINK THAT A LOT OF US SPEAK IN VERY SIMPLE IDEAS OR VERY ABSOLUTELYIST IDEAS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRANSITION FROM ONE TYPE OF ENERGY TO ANOTHER BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE TODAY.

NEXT TUESDAY WE'RE JUST GOING TO STOP USING YOU COAL.

WE NEED TO HAVE AN ORDERLY TRANSITION AND WE CAN DO THAT IN A WAY THAT'S HELPFUL TO THE FOLKS WHO WORK IN THESE INDUSTRIES.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW.

I SUSPECT YOU HAVE NOTICED ARE THERE REINDUSTRIALIZATION GOING ON, AND KENTUCKY APPEARS TO BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A SWATH OF REINDUSTRIALIZATION.

BEGINS IN UPSTATE WORK NEW YORK WITH A $20 BILLION CHIP FACTORY THAT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED, A $15 BILLION CHIP FACTORY IN COLUMBUS, OHIO, AND THEN THE TWO BATTERY FACTORIES IN WIE KENTUCKY AND A NEW FORD TRUCK WANT SO THIS IS A CORRIDOR OF NEW MANUFACTURING.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FIRST OF ALL TO MAKE THAT MANUFACTURING AS EFFICIENT AND AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE.

AND WE ALSO IT'S OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD THE WORKING MIDDLE CLASS THAT WE USED TO HAVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

IT'S A MASSIVE OPPORTUNITY AND IT'S IMPORTANT.

>> WAGE INEQUALITY.

I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT BECAUSE YOU MENTION ODD YOUR SOCIALS, AND ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS THAT YOU HAVE BLASTED POLICIES THAT YOU SAY BENEFIT THE SUPER WEALTHY AT THE EXPENSE MODERATE AND LOW INCOME AMERICANS.

I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN ANTI-POVERTY OR INCOME QUALITY OR EQUALITY PLAN TO HELP LEVERAGE OR LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

>> RIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE A SIMPLE ANSWER, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THIS.

IN THE '60s, THE WEALTHIEST AMERICAN WAS J.P. MORGAN AND HE HAD A LITTLE OVER 1ING BILLION DOLLARS AND HE FAMOUSLY SAID IT'S HARDLY WORTH BEING WEALTHY BECAUSE THE AVERAGE AMERICAN HAD IT SO GOOD.

THOSE WERE THE DAYS.

ONE BILLIONAIRE PLUS OR MINUS, THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE 8 OR 9 BILLION TODAY.

FIRST OF ALL IMAGINE THE WEALTH NESS AMERICAN ONLY HAD $9 BILLION.

WARNER YOU BUST INNES CROO CREASED BURE $47 MILLION.

ELON MUSK IS UP TO $235 BILLION AND MOST WORKING PEOPLE DON'T CARE HOW WEALTHY ANOTHER PERSON IS AS LONG AS THEY CAN PAY THEIR BILLINGS AND SPEND TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO BANKRUPT BECAUSE SOMEONE THEY LOVE GETS SICK.

AS LONG AS THEY CAN OF A VACATION EVERY SO OFTEN AND MAYBE BUY A NOT NEED TO HAVE DIGNIFIED LIVES AND WE USED TO HAVE THAT AND IT WAS ABACK BONE OF THE COUNTRY.

IT WAS SO USUALLY CROOY IMPORTANT.

AND IT'S WHAT LETS FUTURE GENERATIONS DECIDE THAT I'VE GOT A CHANCE.

MY LIFE CAN BE BETTER THAN MY PARENTS.

MY LIFE IS GREAT SO FAR AND IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER.

WE'VE LOST THAT AND IT'S A CRUCIAL LOSS.

>> WHILE MANY PEOPLE MAY APPRECIATE YOUR PHILOSOPHICAL ANSWER TO THAT MAYBE THEY'RE HOPING THAT YOU PROVIDE IS ON THE SPECIFICS ON HOW TO GET THERE.

IS IT RAISING THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE?

WHAT ECONOMIC POLICY DO YOU BELIEVE CAN BUILD UP THE LOW AND MIL CLASS IN AMERICA?

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO ALLOW UNIONS TO COME BACK AND ENCOURAGE UNIONS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU ADJUST OUR APPROACH TO UNIONS.

IN GERMANY MANAGEMENT AND UNIONS COOPERATE.

BY THE WAY, IN THE '60s WE HAD 30% OF THE WORKFORCE WAS, THE PRIVATE WORKFORCE WAS IN UNIONS.

NOW IT'S DOWN THE 6% AND DROPPING.

SO EVEN THOSE WHO -- BUSINESS OWNERS I KNOW WHO FELT BAD ABOUT UNIONS HAVE SAID TO ME RECENTLY, BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT, YOU HAD A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE AMERICAN BACK THEN.

GETTING PEOPLE PAID A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SAFER WORKPLACES.

MAKING SURE THEY'VE GOT TIME TO SPEND WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

A NATIONAL CHILD CARE AND PRESCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND AGAIN, HEALTH CARE THAT DOESN'T BANKRUPT YOU JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE YOU LOVE GETS SICK.

YOU KNOW, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, OUR GOVERNMENT IS IN THE CONTROL OF THE WEALTHIEST.

THEY LOOK AT THE OUR CONGRESS PEOPLE.

ELECT MOST OF OUR POLITICIANS AND THE WEALTHIEST DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES AND WAGES AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE A SOCIAL SAFETY NET AND THAT IS PART OF OUR SOCIETY FEELS SO UNSTABLE AND SO UNCERTAIN RIGHT NOW.

EVEN IN THE MIDST OF THE UKRAINIAN WAR WE'RE ALREADY UPSET.

SO SMALL ADJUSTMENTS TO THESE THINGS OVER TIME WILL HAVE BIG, BIG RESULTS.

>> YOU HAVE TWEETED QUITE OFTEN ABOUT THAT YOUR SUPPORT FOR LEGALIZED CANNABIS IN KENTUCKY.

>> YES.

>> A RECENT TWEET YOU SAID, SAID WE WILL NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED.

YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US ENCOURAGE WHAT'S CALLED SMALL BATCH PRODUCERS SO THAT LOTS OF SMALL BUSINESSES COULD WIN RATHER THAN HUGE CORPORATIONS.

EXPLAIN THAT THINKING TO US.

>> I DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH DETAIL ON THIS BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN THEY ENCOURAGE SMALL GROWERS RATHER THAN, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE STATE OFFUL CA WHERE THEY'VE GOT VERY LARGE GROWERS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A BOON TO KENTUCKY'S SMALL FARMERS PFM.

75,000 FARM IN KENTUCKY AND HALF OF THEM HAVE AN INFORMATION LESS THAN $10,000.

THAT'S AN INCOME.

IF MANY OF THEM WERE ABLE TO WORK IN CO-OPS AND, THEY'D HAVE A CASH CROP HERE THAT WOULD HELP THEM BECOME MORE VIABLE, FINANCIALLY VIABLE.

IT JUST SEEMS THAT AGAIN IF WE'RE GOING HAVE TO SOME PROSPERITY THAT COMES FROM LEGALIZED CANNABIS, IT SHOULD BE SPREAD.

>> IS THAT MEDICINAL OR RECREATIONAL, BOTH?

>> I THINK BOTH.

>> WHY?

WHEN THE SENTIMENT HASN'T SEEMED TO LEAN SO LEVEL TOWARD RECREATIONAL IN KENTUCKY.

>> OH, I DISAGREE.

THE FOLKS I SPEAK WITH, IT'S MAYBE 90% ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT IT'S TIME TO JUST DO IT.

>> FOR MEDICINAL WE'VE HEARD THAT.

WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY HEARD THAT -- >> I GUESS I'M TALKING ABOUT ANECDOTALLY, THE FOLKS THAT I SPEAK TO.

IT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY PERCENTAGE OF FOLKS FEEL IT'S OUT THERE.

WE MIGHT INTEL.

AND THERE ARE VIRTUALLY NO DEATHS ENTHUSIASTIC ASSOCIATED WITH CANNABIS, AND LOTS OF BENEFITS.

AND I UNDERSTAND MY OPPONENT THINKS THAT IT'S A GATEWAY DRUG.

WELL, MCDONALD'S FRENCH FRIES ARE A GATEWAY DRUG TO SOME OF US.

I HAVE TO WATCH WHAT I DO WHEN I GET TO MCDONALD'S.

I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.

>> SEE IN THE MINUTE AND 18 SECONDS WE HAVE REMAINING IF YOU WILL, GIVE THE VOTERS OF THE WINDOWS CONGRESSIONAL A DISTRICT YOUR ELEVATOR PITCH FOR WHY THEY SHOULD SEND TO YOU WASHINGTON.

>> OKAY.

LOOK, WORKING PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE EQUATION FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE USED TO HAVE A VIBRANT WORKING CLASS, A WORKING MIDDLE CLASS, AND THEY ARE GONE.

THE GENERATION, THE LAST GENERATION THAT KNEW THAT THEIR LIVES WOULD BE BETTER THAN THEIR PARENTS WAS PROBABLY BACK IN THE '80s, AND THIS IS A TERRIBLE LOSS.

SO IF I'M IN CONGRESS, I WILL FOCUS ON HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO WORK, ALL PEOPLE WHO WORK.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THE DIVISION IN THIS COUNTRY IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

THE DIVISION IS WHAT ALLOWS THE CORRUPTION, AND CORRUPTION.

IS WHAT CAUSES THE INEQUALITY.

AND I THINK FOR FOR EXAMPLE I WANT TO POINT OUT MY OPPONENT'S, SINCE HE'S GOTTEN INTO CONGRESS HIS NET WORTH AS INCREASED 15 TIMES.

HE'S RECEIVED ALMOST $10 MILLION IN FRIENDLY FEDERAL LOANS, INCLUDING THE LARGEST PPP LOAN GIVEN TO BESS OWN BY A GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY, EVEN MORE THAN PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THAT WAS IN 2020, $4.37 MILLION.

BRETT GUTHRIE ALSO SAT OOH A COMMITTEE THAT HEARD IS DECIDED THE FUTURE OF THE FAMILY'S BUSINESS IN ALUMINUM.

>> THANKS.

WE'RE IDENTITY TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU.

>> RENEE, UH.

>> WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MINUTE WITH THE CANDIDATE IN THE 3rd DRIBBLING, MORNING McGARVEY AND STUART RAY.

STAY WITH US.

>> Renee: THANK YOU FOR STAYING WITH US ON "KENTUCKY TONIGHT."

I'M RENEE SHAW.

NOW WE ARE TALKING TO CANDIDATES IN THE 3RD CONGRESSIONAL A DISTRICT.

DEMOCRAT MORNING MCGARVEY FACES REPUBLICAN STUART FRIGHT SEAT NOW BEING HELD BY THEY RETIRING JOHN Yarmuth BOTH MEN MET OUR CRITERIA AND ACCEPTED OUR INVIT.

WE DO WANT TO HEAR FROM you SEND US YOUR QUESTIONS BY TWITTER AT SEND AN EMAIL TO KYTONIGHT@KET.

OR USE THE WEB FORM AT KET.ORG/ OR YOU CAN CALL 1-800-494-7605.

GENTLEMEN, WELCOME THE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME I COMBATANT WANT TO START WITH YOU, SENATOR MCGARVEY.

YOU'VE BEEN FROM THE LEGISLATORS ATTORNEY TEN YEARS AND I THINK YOU SAID YOU PASSED 18 BILLS WHILE YOU'RE THERE.

YOU'VE HAD A SUCCESSFUL RUN EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE BEEN IN THE MINORITY.

WHY ARE YOU SEEKING THIS SEATS IN CONGRESS?

WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH SHOULD THE VOTERS IN THE 3rd DISTRICT SINNED THERE?

>> I GOT ELECTED TO THE STATE SENATE 10 YEARS AGO AND SERVED IN THE UPPER SUPER STAR MINORITY EVERY DAY SINCE BEING ELECTED IN OFFICE.

I WAS ELECTED WHEN A GUY NAMED MATT BEVIN WAS GOVERNOR.

MY JOB IS TO LEAD THE FEEDS WHERE WOMEN CAN HAVE EARNEST ON REPRODUCT OF CARE AND TEACHES KEEP THEIR PENSION.

WHEN I FIRST WENT TO OFFICE I SAIDIM GOING TO GO TO FRANKFORT AND STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR PEOPLE.

I'M GOING TO DEFEND PEOPLE.

I'M GOING TO DO IT WHILE GETTING STUFF DONE.

I HAVE, PASSING 18 BILLS INTO LAW AND BIG STUFF PROTECTING FROM HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

NOW IT'S TIME TO RUN FOR CONGRESS AND SEEK TO BE A LEGISLATOR ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, PEOPLE WILL SAY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

I.

WELL, I'M GOING TO GO TO WASHINGTON.

I AM GOING STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR PEOPLE.

I'M GOING TO STAY TRUE TO MY VALUES AND WORK TO GET THING DONE.

THE REALITY IS WE HAVE BIG PROBLEMS.

WE HAVE WATCHED THEY SUPREME COURT TAKE RIGHTS AWAY FROM ENFORCEMENT FIRST TIME.

WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE CODIFY ROE V. WADE AND.

WE'RE WORKING.

ON CLIMATE CHANGE.

WE'RE WORKING ON HEALTH CARE AND TACKLING IMMIGRATION REFORM.

SO I THINK E. THAT WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PROVEN THE ABILITY TO GO INTO TOUGH ENVIRONMENTS, TO STAY TRUE TO WHO THEY ARE AND FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT BUT ACTUALLY WORKING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.

>> MR. STUART WAY YOU'RE NOT A POLITICS.

YOU'RE A BUSINESSMAN OF 30+ YEARS.

YOU HAVE WORKED IN STATE GOVERNMENT.

YOU SAID YOU WERE MOTIVATED BY WHAT YOU WERE SEEING IN LOUISVILLE.

I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT IS THAT THAT'S MAKING YOU RUN FOR THE 30 CONGRESSIONAL SEAT.

>> I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN LOUISVILLE AND ALSO WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE COUNTRY.

SPECIFICALLY IN LOUISVILLE, AS A BUSINESSMAN OF 35 YEARS I'VE SEEN CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS AND CORPORATE JOBS LEAVE LOUISVILLE.

I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY REAL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY IN A WELL-BALANCED APPROACH, MAYBE THE ON WEST SIDE AS WELL AS THE SOUTH SIDE OF LOUISVILLE.

SO AS A A BUSINESSMAN I REALLY WANT TO LEAD WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

THE SAFETY HAS BEEN OUT OF CONTROL IN LOUISVILLE.

I KNOW MANY OF THOSE MAYBE MAYORAL OR POLICING ISSUES BUT CERTAINLY THEY CAN BE ENCOURAGED AND LED BY A CONGRESSMAN AS WELL.

BUT I FEEL LIKE LOUISVILLE'S BEEN UNDER 16 YEARS OF FAILED LEADERSHIP FEDERALLY AT THE CONGRESS LEVEL AND ALSO 50 YEARS FROM A MAYORAL STANDPOINT, AND I THINK EVERYONE IN LOUISVILLE REALIZES WE NEED TO CHANGE.

>> I WANT TO HIT ON TO THAT POINT THAT YOU JUST MADE ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE.

LOUISVILLE'S HOMICIDE FOR THIS YEAR SO FAR ARE IN THE TRIPLE DIGITS.

POLICE HAVE SECONDS 1 THREAT OF AND DEATHS OF THREE PREGNANT WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN COUNTED AS DOUBLE HOMICIDES.

YOU MENTIONED THAT IS TAKEN CARE OF ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.

WHAT WOULD YOU STAND BY WHEN IT COMES TO SUPPORTING GUN VIOLENCE ARE GUN CONTROL?

>> FEDERALLY WE CERTAINLY CAN BRING IN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

THAT'S BEEN PROVEN.

THAT'S MUCH NEEDED.

WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

ID I HAVE BEEN ENDORSE DOLLARS BY THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE, AND THERE'S NO DOUBT WE NEED 300 TO 400 MORE OFFICERS IN THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE, AND IF I CAN HELP IDENTIFY FUNDING OR IF WE CAN HELP BRING IN FEDERAL RESOURCES TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY, TO YOUR POINT, THE MURDER RATE IS ALMOST SETTING A RECORD THIS YEARERS AND, AND THAT'S AFTER TWO YEARS OF RECORD RATES FOR THE LAST 2020 AND 2021.

SO SAFETY AND GUN VIOLENCE IS OUT OF CONTROL.

>> MR. McGARVEY, I WANT TO GO TO YOU ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF GUN VIOLENCE.

AND GUN CONTROL.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN WASHINGTON THAT COULD HELP MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LOUISVILLE GUN VIOLENCE AND JUST VIOLENT CRIME RATES?

>> THANK YOU.

A COUPLE OF THINGS FIRST, RENEE.

MY OPPONENT SAYS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS LAGGING BEHIND.

WE JUST HAD THE BEST YEAR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE STATE'S HISTORY WITH $7 BILLION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE SPACE.

ALSO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GUNS THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND MY OPPONENT.

HE HAD ON HIS WEBSITE THAT HE WOULD NEVER CONSIDER ANY GUN REFORM EVER, AND THAT'S A QUOTE BLOOD PROMISE.

THAT STATEMENT REMAINED ON HIS WEBSITE FOR MONTHS AFTER 19 SCHOOLCHILDREN WERE MURDERED IN THEIR CLASSROOM BY A YOUNG MAN WITH AN ASSAULT STYLE RIFLE.

THE REALITY IS WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT GUNS.

I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN IN THE STATE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHO YOUR ALLIES ARE GOING TO BE.

I'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN A RURAL REPUBLICAN TO SIGN ON AS MY COSPONSOR OF THE RIGHTS FOR TENSION ORDER TO TRY TO GET FIREARMS ESSENTIALLY -- >> ESSENTIALLY A RED FLAG LAW.

>> OVER 60s% OF THE DEATHS IN KENTUCKY BY GUN VIOLENCE AND IN THIS COUNTRY ARE FROM DEATH BY SUICIDE.

THERE ARE SOME COMMON SENSE GUN REFORM PROPOSALS WE MUST DO.

I'M GLAD THAT WASHINGTON HAS MADE SOME CONGRESS PASS 10 FIRST GUN REFORM BILL IN ALMOST 30 YEARS IN WASHINGTON.

WE NEED UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS.

WE NEED TO BAN ASSAULT RIFLES.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT 18-YEAR-OLDS CAN'T BUY ASSAULT STYLE PRICE OF.

WE CAN DO THESE THINGS BUT WE CAN'T DO THEM IF WE HAVE PEOPLE TO SAY THAT IF THEY BLOOD PROMISE THEY WILL NEVER, EVER CONSIDER ANY REFORM, I THINK ABOUT THIS IN MY OWN LIFE.

I HAD TO DROP MY KIDS OFF AT THEIR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THE DAY AFTER THE VAL A DAY SHOOTING.

I THINK EVERY POLICYMAKER IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE HAD TO DROP THEY EVER KIDS OFF THE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THE DAY AFTER THAT SHOOTING TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE MUST DO MORE ABOUT THE EPIDEMIC OF GUNS.

>> SO I WANT TO GO TO MR. RAY TO ANSWER THAT ABOUT THE BLOOD PROMISE.

IN JUNE THE PRESIDENT SIGNED INTO EFFECT WHAT WAS A BIPARTISAN SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT.

AND REPUBLICANS, SOME ALSO SIGNED ONTO THAT.

WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED FOR THAT?

WHICH SEEMED TO BE COMPROMISE LEGISLATION BY MANY.

WOULD YOU HAVE SUPPORTED IT?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED THAT.

I DO HAVE TO BACK UP AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE ACCUSATIONS MORGAN PLAYED.

THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EVERYBODY BOWLING GREEN AND ELIZABETHTOWN AND LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, IS NOT REALLY BENEFITING FROM THAT.

AND, YES, I WOULD SUPPORT THE 2nd AMENDMENT.

REGARDLESS OF THAT GUN SAFETY LAW THAT PASSED, MR. McGARVEY IS GOING DOWN THE ROAD OF BANNING ALL KINDS OF WEAPONS.

THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION IS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK.

AND WE WOULD LOVE TO TIE MORE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES TO THE BACKGROUND CHECK.

I'M A PROPONENT OF IT.

BUT HIPPA VIOLATIONS DO NOT HOWE FOR THAT.

SO SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE GREET AND EASY TO PROMISE, BUT THE MEDICAL LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY PREVENT THE MENTAL HEALTH FIELD FROM TYING DIRECTLY INTO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

>> MR. McGARVEY, ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW FAVOR BANNING ALL WEAPONS, CERTAIN TYPES WEAPONS?

>> I TEAL SAID VERY CLEARLY I FAVOR BANNING ASSAULT RIFLES.

SO MY OPPONENT WAS MISTAKING SIMPLE BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING NOT TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

HE DID NOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

WHAT'S ON HIS WEBSITE IS A BLOOD PROMISE, WHICH IS A TERRIBLE CHOICE OF WORDS, TO NEVER, EVER CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF GUN REFORM.

THE NRA IS OPPOSING UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS.

THAT'S WHY THEY HAVEN'T PASSED IT YET EVEN THOUGH 90% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT THIS COMMON SENSE MEASURE.

WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO GO TO THE EXTREMES ON ISSUES LIKE THIS IF WE EXPECT TO SOLVE THEM, AND NO MORE THAN OUR CHILDREN'S LIVES AND OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY IS AT STAKE.

>> BLOOD PROMISE, MR. RAY.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO PACK UP THAT LANGUAGE OR EXPLAIN WHY YOU CHOSE THOSE WORDS.

>> NO, I WOULDN'T BACK IT UP.

WHAT I WAS DESCRIBING IS MUCH MORE THAN THE 2nd AMENDMENT.

IT WAS THE CONSTITUTION OF UNITED STATES WHICH, BY THE WAY, WHEN I'M ELECTED IN NOVEMBER YOU HAVE TO TAKE AN OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE THE THE WEEKEND AMOUNTED.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND YOU CAN'T JUST I CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT AND I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT.

ASSAULT WEAPONS IS A FANCY TERM FOR SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, AND OFTEN THOSE ARE USED IN THE SUPPORTING WORLD, SO IT'S -- SUPPORTERRING WORLD.

IT'S IDENTITY SPORTING.

I'M FOR SCHOOL SAFETY.

WE HAVE TO HARDEN SCHOOL ENTRANCES.

THERE WAS ONE IN MY APARTMENT POWERED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

I'VE ABOUT AN A PROPONENT OF HARD OFENING SCHOOL ENTRANCES TO PREVENT GUNS AND OTHER PARAPHERNALIA FROM EVER ENTERING A PUBLIC OR A PRIVATE SCHOOL.

>> WHEN YOU SAY HARDENING PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SENATOR McGARVEY WOULD SAY THEY DID THAT IN 2019 WITH THE SCHOOL SAFETY AND RESILIENCE ACT.

SO WHAT IS IT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THAT'S NOT ALREADY DONE?

>> WHEN YOU GO INTO A GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, WHEN YOU GO ON TO PAY SPORTING EVENT, WHEN YOU GO TO ANY MAJOR EVENT, YOU GO TO THROUGH A METAL DETECTORS, AND SADLY WITH THE WORLD OF BACKPACKS TODAY, EVERY KID BRINGS A BACKPACK TO SCHOOL, AND SHOWS ALL GO INTO THE SCHOOL UNCHECKED.

SO WE FLY THROUGH SPORTING EVENTS.

WE FLY INTO GOVERNMENT AGENCY BUILDINGS AND WE GET SCANNED.

SADLY WE HAVE TO GET SCAN TO GO GET INTO A SCHOOL.

>> DO YOU SUPPORT THAT, MR. McGARVEY?

>> FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT HE SAID.

THE THE 2nd AMENDMENT SAID BEING NECESSARY FOR A WELL REGULATED MILITIA AND I THINK WE ALSO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE LIMITS ON THE WINDOWS AMENDMENT.

FELONS ARE NOT ALLOW HANDGUNS.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE MISSILES OR BUY TANKS IN YOUR FRONT YARD.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY GUNS INTO COURTROOMS.

MY OPPONENT IS STAYING RIGHT NOW YOU YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO CARRY GUNS INTO YOUR SCHOOLS WHICH WOULD BE A LIMIT ON THE 2nd AMENDMENT.

SO THERE ARE LIMITS HERE.

AND TEASE HE'S TALKING ABOUT HARDSENING SCHOOLS.

THERE WERE SHERIFFS DEPUTIES AND POLICE OFFICERS ON THE GROUND IN UVALDEY, TEXAS.

WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT AN 18-YEAR-OLD WITH A TERRIBLY TROUBLED HISTORY WENT ON LIST 18th BIRTH BIRTHDAY AND BOUGHT ASSAULT STYLE RIFLES AND TOOK THEM INTO A SCHOOL WHERE HE INLAND CAN KILL DOLLARS PEOPLE.

WE CANNOT TALKING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE GUNS AND HE HAS AVOIDED YOUR QUESTION.

BUT HE HAS SAID HE WILL NEVER, EVER CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF GUN REFORM.

>> REAL QUICKLY, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SCHOOLS SHOULD HAVE METAL DETECTORS?

>> I BELIEVE THAT SCHOOLS SHOULD BE SAFE.

>> DOES THAT MEAN THEY HAVE METAL DETECTORS?

>> THIS IS WHERE I THINK SCHOOLS SHOULD BE MAKING THESE DECISIONS.

AS YOU KNOW WE WORK ON THIS ISSUE A LOT IN FRANKFORT AND WE GIVE A LOT TO THE ELECTED LEADERS IN THE SCHOOL BOARD.

DO I THINK IN CONGRESS WE SHOULD PASS A FEDERAL LAW THAT EVERY SCHOOL IN EVERY PART OF THE COUNTRY NEEDS A METAL DEFECTOR?

THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING, THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SCHOOL BOARDS.

THIS IS WHY WE HAVE STATE LEGISLATURE IN THESE ARENAS.

BUT I THINK WHAT ANY PARENT AND EVERY AMERICAN WILL TELL YOU, WE WANT OUR KIDS SAFE IN SCHOOL.

I AM DISGUSTED BY THE FACT THAT WHEN WE DID TORNADO DRILLS, MY KIDS ARE DOING ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS.

YES, I BELIEVE IN MAKING SCHOOLS SAFER BUT LET'S NOT GET DISTRACTED FROM THE FACT THAT IN CONGRESS WHAT WE CAN DO ARE HELPING PASS GUN REFORM PROPOSALS NATIONWIDE.

THAT IS THE JOB OF CONGRESS AND IT'S GOING TO HELP KEEP OR KIDS SAFE.

>> MAKE A TOUGH PIVOT TO TALK ABOUT INFLATION.

THAT'S TOP OF MIND WEEK ECONOMIC ISSUES AND THESE ARE JUST TABLE TALK ISSUES THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY CONSUMED WITH.

THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT.

SENATOR McGARVEY, I WANT TO GO WITH YOU.

THE PRESIDENT AND THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN HAVE APPLAUDED THIS INPOLICE STATION REDUCTION ACT.

CLIMATE CHANGE, DRUG PRICING LAW.

WHILE GAS, FOOD PRICES CONTINUE TO SOAR.

CONTRADICTS CLAIM THE MEASURE WOULD LEAD TO EIER ENERGY I SAID PRICES AND A GRAVY AUDITS BY THE IRS.

IS THAT THE THE BEST LAW THE DEMOCRATS CAN DO WHEN IT COMES TO INFLATION REDUCTIONSOME.

>> RIGHT NOW INFLATION IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM.

WHETHER IT'S IN THE GROCERY STORE OR AT THE GAS PUMP.

I'M GLAD THAT THE DEMOCRATS WERE ABLE TO PASS THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT WHICH LOWERS THE COST OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND ALSO LOWERS THE DEFICIT.

IT ALSO REDUCES DEFICIT SPENDING.

IT'S A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I WOULD ALSO HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN WHERE THE DEMOCRATS' PROPOSALS IN THE GAS PRICE GOUGING ACT GET PASSED.

IT PASSED THE HOUSE.

EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN TVEIDT AGAINST IT.

IT WAS FILIBUSTERED BY THE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE BECAUSE WHILE GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT, WE'RE ALL SEEING AND FEELING THAT PAIN AT THE PUMP, WHILE THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING, THE OIL COMPANIES ARE EXPERIENCING RECORD PROFITS QUARTER AFTER QUARTER.

THIS BILL WOULD HAVE ALLOWED THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION TO INVESTIGATE AND LOOK AT THE PRACTICES BEHIND SOME OF THESE OIL COMPANIES.

THE REPUBLICANS FILIBUSTERED IT.

THE REALITY OF REALITY IS THERE'S NOTE A SINGLE REPUBLICAN WHO VOTED FOR THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT.

SO INFLATION IS A PROBLEM.

IT'S A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE, NOT JUST FROM THE SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS FROM THE PANDEMIC FROM PUENTE'S AGGRESSIVE AND UNCHECKED WAR IN UKRAINE RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE FEELING THAT PAIN.

IT'S OF LITTLE HELP I THINK SOMETIMES BUT WE ARE LEADING THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

OUR INFLATION IS DOING BETTER THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD IS DOING CURRENTLY.

SO I THINK WE CAN DO MORE.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS ONE PARTY WHO IS PASSING BILLS AND PUTTING OUT PROPOSALS THAT HELP PEOPLE EVERY DAY IN THEIR LIVES TO HELP WITH INFLATION, AND ANOTHER PARTY THAT IS CONTENT TO JUST SAY NO AND FRY TO USE IT AS AN ELECTION YEAR EDGE WITH ISSUE.

>> MR. RAY, TOY, WHAT ARE THE IDEAS YOU HAVE ABOUT REDUCING INFLATION OR ARE THEY REPUBLICAN PROPOSALS OUT THERE THAT YOU SUPPORT AND WOULD VOTE FOR SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO IN WASHINGTON?

>> I THINK YOU HAVE TALK ABOUT THE ORIGINAL QUESTION WHICH WAS THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, AND IT WAS ANOTHER $750 BILLION SPENT BY THIS ADMINISTRATION.

I DON'T THINK YOU'LL EVER HEAR MY OPPONENT TALK ABOUT SPENDING THAT HE DOESN'T CARE FOR.

I THINK HE LIKES ALL SPENDING.

AND THIS UNSUSTAINABLE SPENDING, WHICH HAS BEEN NEARLY $3 TRILLION SINCE PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN IN OFFICE, IS WHAT'S LED TO THIS 40-YEAR RECORD INFLATION WHICH IS RAISING ALL THE PRICES IN THE GROCERY STORE, WHICH IS RAISING ALL THE PRICES AT UNFORTUNATELY THE KITCHEN TABLES ACROSS MY COMMUNITY IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, AND IT'S ALSO LEADING TO THE GAS PRICES.

$3TRILLION IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.

IT'S WHAT'S LED TO THE INFLATION.

THE DEMOCRATS ARE IN CONTROL OF BOTH CONGRESS AND OF THE SENATE AND THE PRESIDENCY, THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.

SO, YES, THE REPUBLICAN VOTED AGAINST THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT BECAUSE IT HASN'T DONE THAT.

WE HAD 8.3% INFLATION.

WE'VE AVERAGED BETWEEN 8 AND 9% AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE REPORTS OUT IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS ON THIS LAST MONTHS AND IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN 8 AND 9 PERCENT INFLATION.

IT'S NO WORKING.

>> SO REPUBLICANS VOTED AGAINST THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT BUT WHAT WOULD THEY VOTE FOR INCLUDING YOU SHOULD YOU GO TO WASHINGTON?

>> I WOULD PUMP THE BRAKES ON THIS UNSUSTAINABLE SPENDING.

I FEEL THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WE HEARD CONGRESSMAN CORM TALK ABOUT IT.

I'D COULD HAVE TO SEE HIM AND MYSELF IN THE MAJORITY TO WHERE WE CAN CUT THE WASTEFUL SPENDING IN CONGRESS.

NOT ONLY HAS IT ABOUT AN SPENT, MANY OF THE $3 TRILLION, INCLUDING 87,000 NEW IRS A LITTLE IN THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT.

WHAT ARE 87,000 IRS AGENTS GOING TO DO?

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S THAT MANY AUDITS TO CONDUCT, AND NOW SPEAKING OF ARMS, THEY'RE HEAVILY ARMED.

I WOULD PUMP THE BRAKES IS TO THIS UNSUSTAINABLE SPENDING.

THAT IN ITSELF WILL HELP REDUCE INFLATION.

>> WHERE ELSE SHOULD GOVERNMENT TRIM SPENDING?

>> OH, I THINK THAT THERE'S ALL KIND OF WASTE.

THERE'S WASTE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND THERE'S MORE RESPONSIBILITY THAT SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED BACK TO THE STATE LEVEL, AND I THINK YOU COULD GO ON AND ON.

AGAIN, I'D RATHER NOT SEE US HIRE 87,000 IRS AGENTS.

>> MR. McGARVEY.

>> THANK YOU, RENEE.

MY OPPONENT TALKS ABOUT SPENDING SO LET'S PUTTED THIS IN CONTEXT.

WHEN DONALD TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT, HE GAVE TAX CUTS TO THE WEALTHIEST INDIVIDUALS AND CORPORATIONS FOR $1 TRILLION, WHICH MYREN OPPONENTS BENEFITED.

THEN THERE WAS THE PPP LOANS TO HELP PEOPLE IN BUSINESSES.

MY OPPONENT TOOK A $150,000 LOAN IN PPP AND IT WAS 47.

HE FORGIVEN.

THE REALITY IS HE'S NOT OPPOSED TO GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

HE'S JUST OPPOSED TO GOVERNMENT SPENDING WHEN IT DOESN'T BENEFIT HIM.

I APPLAUD SPENDING ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH WE BENEFITED FROMY HERE GREATLY HERE IN KENTUCKY I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE LOWERING THE COST OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN RENEWABLE ENERGY, THAT WE HAVE RECORD LOW UNEMPLOYMENT IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

WE NEED TO TACKLE INFLATION, AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING SO.

BUT YOU ALSO DIDN'T HEAR FROM MY OPPONENT IS THAT HE HAS NO PLAN.

WHEN ASKED AT OUR LAST DEBATE WHAT HIS PLAN WOULD BE, HE SAIDITES TO RAISE INTEREST RATES.

NOW HE'S TALKING ABOUT CUTTING WASTE BUT CAN'T MENTION WHICH WASTE HE WANTS TO CUT.

THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF PROBLEM SOLVING WE NEED IN A TIME SUCH AS THIS WHICH THERE IS SO MUCH UPNAVEL WORLD, WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE HURT HERE A HOME.

WE NEED TO HAVE REAL SOLUTIONS AND NOT JUST THIS CLASSIC POLITIC RHETORIC AND CLAIM GAME.

>> SHIFTING NOW TO TALK ABOUT ABORTION.

MR. RAY, REPUBLICAN SENATOR LINDS GRAHAM OF SOUTH CAROLINA HAS INTRODUCED A BILL THAT WOULD CREATE A FEDERAL BAN ON ABORTIONS A 15 WEEKS.

POLLS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SHOWN THAT A MAJORITY AMERICANS DO NOT FAVOR OUTRIGHT FEDERAL BANS.

WHERE DO YOU THAN THE STANDS ON THAT?

WOULD YOU VOTE FOR THAT AND WHY?

>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD NECESSARILY VOTE FOR THAT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DID THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE A STATE ISSUE, AND OBVIOUSLY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT AND THE DOBBS DECISION DID SHIFT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATE, AND NOW IT'S IN STATE GOVERNMENT AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMENDMENT ON THE CONSTITUTION OF KENTUCKY IN THE GOVERNORY ELECTION.

SO -- >> AND YOU SUPPORT THAT?

>> I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT.

I SUPPORT IT BEING IN THE DECISION -- THE DECISION BEING MADE AT THE STATE AND NOW WITH THE CITIZENS.

I AM OBVIOUSLY PERSONALLY PRO-LIFE AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

I DO UNDERSTAND THREE EXCEPTIONS AND I WOULD SUPPORT THE EXCEPTIONS OF LIFE OF THE MOTHER, RAPEIN AND SAYS.

>> RAPE AND INCREASE ARE CURRENTLY NOT PROTECTED.

ONLY JUST THE LIGHT OF MOTHER OR ENDANGERING THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

>> I BELIEVE HOUSE BILL 3 RECOGNIZED RAPE, INCEST AND THE LIGHT OF MOTHER.

>> IT DID NOT.

HOUSE BILL 3 THAT WAS PASSED BY THE KENTUCKY LEGISLATURE THIS PAST SESSION DID NOT.

>> WE OFFERED AN "A" TO INCLUDE RAPE AND INCEST.

IT WAS VOTED DOWN.

>> MR. RAY, YOU DO SUPPORT -- >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> YOU WOULD NOT GO SENATORS TO SAY YOU WOULD VOTE FOR OR AGAINST A FEDERAL BAN ON ABORTION.

>> HIT THE SHOULD ANYBODY THIS STATE'S HANDS AND THAT'S WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.

>> MR. McGARVEY.

>> MY OPPONENT FLAWED DOBBS DECISION WHICH IS FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OUR COUNTRY THAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS BEEN RIGHTS AWAY FROM PEOPLE.

HE APPLAUDED IT AND SAID IT SHOULD BE IN THE STATES AND APPLAUDED KENTUCKY'S PLAN.

KENTUCKY'S PLAN, WHICH WE HAD THE TRIGGER LAW WHICH PASSED IN 2019, BY APPLAUDING THE DOBBS DECISION HE KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN KENTUCKY, AND THAT IS THAT NO WOMAN FOR ANY REASON AT ANY TIME CAN TERMINATE HER PREGNANCY UNLESS HER HEALTH IS IN IMMINENT DANGER.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THIS MEANS.

DAYS AFTER THE DOBBS DECISION I GOT A CALL.

I GOT A CALL FROM A WOMAN WHOSE NOT FROM JEFFERSON COUNTY.

SHE WAS AFRAID TO CALL HER IS THAT IT STATE SENATOR AND HER STATE REPRESENTATIVE.

SHE HAD JUST GONE IN FOR HER 20 WEEK SCAN AND FOUND OUT THERE WAS NO CLEFT PALATE MANY, THERE IS A HOLE IN THE ABDOMEN AND THERE WAS NO PRESENCE OF A SKULL.

SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

UNDER KENTUCKY'S LAW, SHE IS FORCED TO CARRY THAT NON-VIABLE FETUS FOR THE NEXT 20 WEEKS AND THEN HAVE IT CUT OUT OF HER BECAUSE WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF A SKULL, THERE IS NO WAY FOR A NATURAL CHILDBIRTH.

THAT IS WRONG.

IT IS CRUEL.

MY OPPONENT IS REFUSING TO SAY WHETHER HE WILL VOTE TO A NATIONAL BAN.

IF SPEAKER MCCARTHY BECOMES A REALITY AND LINDSEY GRAHAM'S 15 WEEK BAN COMES INTO THE NATIONAL STAGE, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT.

AND I THINK WE KNOW HOW HE'D VOTE ON IT.

>> TIME WE HAVE REMAINING I DO WANT TO ASK ONE FINAL QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE THE GREATEST THREAT TO AMERICA'S DEMOCRACY.

I'LL GIVE YOU 45 SECONDS TO ANSWER.

>> ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS VOTES WE COULD MAKE WOULD BE IN THE CASE OF NATIONAL SECURITY, AND CERTAINLY WE'RE SEEING PROBLEMS ALL OVER THIS WORLD WITH AN OUT-OF-CONTROL RUSSIA AND THEIR INVASION IN UKRAINE AND A WATCHFUL EYE IN CHINA MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND CONSIDERING WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE IN TAIWAN.

SO I DEFINITELY THINK THAT NATIONAL SECURITY IS -- AND THE POSSIBILITY OF MOST SERIOUS VOTE THAT I CONGRESSMAN COVER TAKE, AND THAT COULD BE TO SEND OUR TROOPS AND OUR TREASURE TO WAR, AND I WOULD TAKE THOSE DECISIONS VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS ISSUES BEFORE OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

AND IT REQUIRES SERIOUS TIMES, AND I WOULD BE PREPARED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

>> MR. McGARVEY, YOUR RESPONSE TO THE GREATEST THREAT TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AS YOU SEE TO IT.

>> WHEN ASKED AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION WHAT TYPE GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE YOU GIVEN US, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN RESPONDED, "A REPUBLIC IF YOU CAN KEEP COYOTE I THINK THE ACTIONS DONALD TRUMP CULL MAIN AT AING ON JANUARY 6th TO OVERTHROW A VALIDLY HELD ELECTION IS A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.

THAT CONTINUES TODAY AS TRUMP IS PLAYING IN PRIMARIES.

AS YOU SEE HE HAD A 21 AND 5 RECORD.

AS YOU SEE PEOPLE LIKE LIZ CHENEY WHO STOOD UP AND SAID WHAT WAS HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th DID NOT GET EVEN 6% OF THE VOTE IN THE PRIMARY.

I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON WHO ARE WILLING TO STAND UP FOR DEMOCRACY.

DEMOCRACY DOESN'T GUARANTEE A HAPPY ENDING.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE WHO ARE STANDING UP FOR FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS, WHO ARE WORKING TO KEEP THE DEMOCRACY WE HAVE AND KEEP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNITED.

>> THANK YOU, MR. EVERY MCGARVEY AND MR. RAY Next NEXT MONDAY ON "KENTUCKY TONIGHT" WE CONTINUE OUR CANDIDATE CONVERSATIONS BY LOOKING AT THE U.S. HOUSE RACES IN DISTRICTS 4, 5 AND 6.

Y WOO HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US THEN.

TAKE GOOD CARE.