WISCONSIN.

>> ENTHUSIASM FOR VOTING IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS WAY DOWN FROM FOUR YEARS AGO.

THAT IS A MESSAGE FROM THE LATEST MARQUETTE LAW SCHOOL POLL OUT THIS WEEK.

FOR DETAILS WE TURN TO POLL DIRECTOR CHARLESTON FRANKLIN, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> OVERALL HOW DOES DO DOES ENTHUSIASM COMPARE?

ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT VOTING.

THAT IS QUITE A DROP.

IT WAS DOWN IN OUR JANUARY POLL ALSO ABOUT 20 POINTS BELOW WHERE IT HAD BEEN FOUR YEARS AGO.

NOW ENTHUSIASM CAN CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY BAKED IN.

BUT AT THE START OF THE RACE IT SHOWS WE ARE NOT REALLY EAGER IN LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FALL CAMPAIGN.

>> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRESIDENTIAL MATCHUPS IN YOUR POLLING.

IT IS TRUMP 51% TO BIDEN AT 49%.

IN YOUR LAST POLL THEY WERE EVEN.

BUT YOU ALSO FOUND INDEPENDENT RFK , JR. GOT 13% AND TAKING VOTES FROM TRUMP.

WHAT IS THIS SPELLING FOR BIDEN?

POLLS NOW, THAT REPUBLICANS VOTE FOR KENNEDY ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE POINTS MORE THAN DEMOCRATS VOTE FOR KENNEDY.

SO IT IS A LITTLE MORE FROM THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

NOW THE GREEN CANDIDATE, JILL STEIN AND INDEPENDENT CORNELL WEST TAKE MORE FROM DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS.

THIS MONTH IS A SMALL CHANGE.

TRUMP IS UP TWO IN THE HEAD-TO-HEAD, UP BY ONE POINT IN THE FIVE-WAY RACE, SO THE NET EFFECT OF ALL THIS IS SLIGHTLY IMPROVED BIDEN'S POSITION BUT IT IS A VERY SLIGHT DIFFERENCE.

ONE LAST THING, KENNEDY GETTING 13%, REMEMBER IN 2016, WHICH WAS THE RECENT HIGH WATER MARK IN WISCONSIN, ALL INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES TOGETHER ONLY GOT 5.5% OF THE VOTE.

>> SO 13% IS A BIG NUMBER.

TAKING A LOOK AT THE TAMMY BALDWIN AND HOVDE COMPARISON, AMONG REGISTERED VOTERS IS DEMOCRAT TAMMY BALDWIN, 52 TO 47 HOVDE.

HOW HAS THAT MOVED SINCE HOVDE ANNOUNCED?

VOTE QUESTION BECAUSE HE WASN'T AN ANNOUNCED CANDIDATE YET.

THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME OF POLLING THAT.

HOVDE HAS GOTTEN BETTER KNOWN SINCE JANUARY, WHEN WE DID ASK IF YOU HAD A FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE VIEW.

THEN IN JANUARY, 82% SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH TO HAVE AN OPINION.

THIS TIME IT IS 56% SO SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH IN NAME RECOGNITION BUT STILL MORE THAN HALF THE ELECTORATE DON'T HAVE AN OPINION.

THAT IS TOTALLY NORMAL FOR NONINCOME WANT CANDIDATES FOR THIS STAGE BUT BY COMPARISON 11% SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPINION OF TAMMY BALDWIN.

NUMBERS ARE EVEN AT 50%.

WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION OF THAT?

50/50 TIE MEANS THIS COULD LOOK LIKE A CLOSE RACE WHEN PEOPLE WERE THINKING OF BALDWIN'S 11-POINT ONE SIX YEARS AGO THIS LOOKS LIKE A MUCH CLOSER RACE THAN IN 2018.

THE OTHER IS THAT I THINK HOVDE ACTUALLY BENEFITS IN AN ODD KIND OF WAY IN THAT 50/50 SPLIT WE ARE SAYING DEMOCRAT TAMMY BALDWIN OR REPUBLICAN ERIC HOVDE WHEN HALF THE ELECTORATE DON'T HAVE AN OPINION OF HOVDE SUPPLYING THE REPUBLICAN LABEL HELPS THEM DECIDE THIS IS SOMEONE ON MY TEAM OR MAYBE NOT ON MY TEAM.

TWO OTHER WAYS OF ASKING THE QUESTION SHOW A RANGE OF ANSWERS WITH BALDWIN AHEAD BY AS MUCH AS SEVEN OR FIVE AS WE HAVE JUST EMPHASIZED ON THE REGISTERED VOTER, OR TIED.

SO IT IS A RANGE OF THINGS.

I THINK A CLOSE RACE IS THE BEST ANSWER TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT.

>> LOOKING KIND OF DEEPER INTO THE ENTHUSIASM PART OF YOUR POLLING SPECIFIC TO -- VERY ENTHUSIASTIC COMPARED TO 59% OF TRUMP VOTERS.

THEN FOR NOT AT ALL ENTHUSIASTIC TO VOTE 62% SAY THAT FOR JOE BIDEN, 37% FOR DONALD TRUMP.

>> I THINK THIS IS REALLY THE LOOK OF THE RACE, THAT TRUMP HAS A VERY SUPPORTIVE, VERY ENTHUSIASTIC GROUND BEHIND HIM.

BIDEN VOTERS ARE JUST SIMPLY MAYBE BIDEN VOTERS.

THEY ARE CERTAINLY MOSTLY NOT TRUMP VOTERS BUT NOT EXCITED ABOUT THE RACE OR ENTHUSIASTIC.

THEY LIKE THE COUNTRY HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT BIDEN'S AGE, ISRAEL AND HAMAS AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE MAKING BIDEN SUPPORTERS UNENTHUSIASTIC EVEN IF THEY ARE STILL COMMITTED TO VOTING FOR THEM.

YOU MOBILIZE THOSE UNENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT ERS.

>> LET'S LOOK AT THE ISSUE, THE TOP THREE ISSUES WERE THE ECONOMY, IMMIGRATION AND ABORTION.

IT SEEMS OF NOTE THAT THE ISSUE OF ISRAEL AND GAZA WAS WAY DOWN THE LIST AT 2%.

>> WAY DOWN.

AMONG PEOPLE 18 TO 29 IT WAS 7% THAT SAID ISRAEL AND GAZA WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PROBLEM.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE THAT INDIVIDUAL GROUPS AND PARTICULAR ISSUES CAN MOBILIZE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE REALLY STRONG OPINIONS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE ON THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE OR EVEN AMONG YOUNG VOTERS AND IT IS LESS THAN 7% AMONG DEMOCRATS AND PEOPLE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES VERY LIB RAT.

THE OTHER THING ON THIS ISSUE IS THAT DEMOCRATS PUT ABORTION AS THE FIRST ISSUE BUT IMMIGRATION ONLY GETS 1% AS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATS.

IT AND THE ECONOMY ARE BY FAR THE TOP TWO ISSUES FOR REPUBLICANS.