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Now, this is when we talk to, with our friends from the Community Foundation.

Talk to folks in the community that are doing incredible work.

And we're joined today by, some guests from Toledo Day Nursery.

We'll have Chelsea Davis, the co-director of Toledo Day Nursery, as well as, without question, yes, the youngest guest now, not the most immature, but just definitely the youngest.

Why do you look at Matt when you said that?

No, a no reason.

Okay.

We're going to have Shelly Rankins, who is a parent from Toledo Day, and then also her daughter, the adorable five year old Ella Rankins will join that fight for long.

No, she I we had this discussion, that apparently she will next be six.

That's right.

I thought it was 12.

So I'm learning she's already obviously didn't go to Toledo Day nursery.

I did not.

But a really cool a really cool history and story behind Little Day Nursery.

So excited to, get a chance to hear that story and share that with folks around.

Toledo.

Where did you guys where did you guys go to preschool?

Do you know?

I don't know the name of it.

It is where I met my best friend.

For what it's worth.

So I had the same best friend, 47.

So we met when I was 3 or 4.

But I don't remember the name of it.

No.

I've lived in Topeka, Kansas at the time, so I don't I don't remember, so I also don't remember the name of my preschool.

But when I started doing work with Lord's University, yeah, my mom texted me and said, you're back to your alma mater.

And I was like, I don't I. Oh, that's so cute.

And I went to preschool.

Oh, Lord.

Yeah.

So.

All right.

Yeah.

Her new alma mater.

All right.

Well, so excited to have that conversation, with them.

And then Courtney Filion.

Yes.

From just Toledo.

It's really cool.

Sort of a sustainable store.

They do all kinds of classes there, right in downtown Toledo.

So excited to talk to Courtney about what they're doing.

I don't know anything.

You're going to love it.

And you're going to love her.

Yep.

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But, start sneezing.

Yeah.

Yes, but you just go straight to the hand sanitizer.

Just to protect ourselves.

You never know.

We're joined now by Chelsea Davis, co-director of Toledo Day Nursery.

On Tuesdays.

We always bring in folks in the community that are making a great impact, courtesy of our friends at Community Partnership.

And there's no, the community foundation.

There's no question that Toledo Day Nursery is doing that.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Thanks for having me.

What what is Toledo Day nursery?

Toledo Day Nursery is the oldest child care center in Ohio in the fall, and the fourth oldest in the country.

So how old is that?

We are celebrating 155 this year.

So very exciting.

A lot of legacy, a lot of groundwork that we've that we've hit run in and Toledo, for the last hundred and 55 years.

So very excited.

As you I'm, I'm familiar with the nursery, but I had no idea that it was the fourth or, fourth oldest in the country.

That's incredible.

Quite a legacy.

Yes.

It is.

I mean, I got to believe there's also some added pressure to that is right as well.

Right?

It's like it's been around and doing all this great work for 155 years.

Can't stop now.

That's right.

Yeah.

How did it start?

How did it start?

So it started with, a young boy, 145 years ago.

And this man named Mr.

Price crossed paths with him and noticed the little boy didn't have shoes on.

And saw a need and tried to meet the need and said, hello.

Want you to invite you to come to church on Sunday.

If you show up to church on Sunday, I'll give you a pair of shoes.

Sure enough, he did.

And then when he saw him there, gave him the shoes, said, I want you to now invite your friends next Sunday who don't have shoes, and I would like to provide them shoes.

And so from there just became and unraveled Toledo Day Nursery and who it is today.

It started out it's called Adams Street Mission.

And just grew as the community needed it to grow in different facets.

And now we are who we are today.

How many locations are there in the city of Toledo?

We have two right in the heart of downtown Toledo.

And then we have one on Stickney Avenue.

How did you get into this work?

I was actually first coming out of college, a high school teacher.

So I studied education and went into high school and was like, oh, this is great.

My life is totally fulfilled.

Yeah, something like that.

It was more along the lines of, I feel like children are more my lane.

Yes.

You know, when I was a high school teacher, I went along on the field trips, and they're like, who's the teacher?

My, I know I look like them, but, so it was, it was, difficult, you know, and my whole life, I've always had a heart for just children.

Yeah.

In every area of my life, I would be babysitting, and I would be the one in the church nursery helping out.

And then, so it just it became natural and so after I had left my teaching job, I was just kind of like, where did what is this?

Where what where am I actually being called into right now?

You grew up here or in your folks were supportive of this.

You have 95 brothers and sisters.

I have one younger brother.

Okay.

Which made up about 95, I guess.

Lots of personality behind him, and it was lots of fun.

But no, I think a lot of it is honestly attached to my church upbringing.

Okay.

And just being really involved.

Wonderful.

So.

So, there's a lot to answer for this question, I'm sure, but what is it like from 155 years?

And what is different today?

Like, I had kind of said, we we have grown as the need has evolved in the community.

So at one point we were in Polly Fox and helping the helping the, the high school mothers that needed some space, some childcare, for their children.

Along the way, we have we've been in different buildings, serve different to different components of it.

So we've been strictly a preschool.

At some point.

We have become what we are today as a birth.

The five organization.

And so there's lots there's lots that's different, but there's also lots that's the same.

So our mission is to positively impact children's lives.

And I feel like that it kind of bleeds through into every, every phase and every moment of who we've been along the way has been to strictly, positively impact children's lives.

How many students are you serving?

So we serve about 100 in our two locations right now.

We call it our school family.

And so at both locations, there's roughly 50 children, and we give our heart and our soul to cultivate our school families and some of the the sort of granular logistics here that the kids are from how old to how old?

Yep.

0 to 5.

And they, they enter your doors at what time they're in during the day and when there's pick up at the last minute.

So we not that I would ever pick up my kids at the last minute.

Never.

No no no, it's definitely not late.

Yeah.

Definitely not.

Even though you have a five minute window, we don't know no one ever touched.

Sure.

Now we we open at 630.

We close at 530.

Okay.

So.

So the service that you're providing is high quality.

Preschool education.

Correct.

And so what are you.

I know that Toledo Day Nursery and your leadership has been involved in sort of that effort across the state to ensure that all students, 0 to 5, have access to that level of quality of education.

Can you talk a little bit about what the status of that initiative is, or that effort is across the state in the curriculum, if you don't mind?

Sure.

That's a lot.

Yes.

Yes.

So when it comes to, providing quality, I think that is like the baseline definition of what is quality, because quality in my eyes could be never asked a question about this show.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

We're not burdened by that conceptual at all.

Yeah.

We just didn't know it's quality.

Yeah.

No.

Yeah.

The whole time?

Yeah.

No, we just try to get it done.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

So, you know, quality in in my eyes is I have a certain picture of what that looks like.

But the person who runs a child care center next door may have a different view of, like, what?

Quality of care.

So, quality to to myself and Julia, who's my co-director.

We are mothers that actually have children in our program.

And I think that that's something to be very considerate of when it comes to what we look at when it comes to early childhood education, because our standards are very high for our children.

So the, the, the care and everything that goes into cultivating a young child, and so when we're looking at what that what that is and pushing that initiative forward, I think that that is, the driving force to making sure that what we're providing for our community and for everyone along the way is to that standard.

So we are involved in an initiative that's a national initiative, through the Baynham Family Foundation called We Vision.

And we are one of I believe it's eight centers across the nation that they, are looking to push policy when it comes to providing accessible quality early learning programs for every family.

And so the heart of that is really to the, the underprivileged have the same rights, the same accessibility as the ones that may have more monetary means to be able to provide quality.

To set our, our children and our economies up to be more successful in the future.

How does it do that?

How does educating a one year old are taking good care of a one year old affect the economy?

Because I don't think people connect the two things.

Yeah.

For sure.

They just look at a one year old as being a one year old.

Right, right.

So what studies have found is that children and particularly low income families come into kindergarten, so typically five, six years old and are already two years behind.

And so you're sitting here thinking like, how in the world does a child come in that's five years old and they're already two years behind academically for what the climate is.

And it's because third grade had raised their standard, which came trickled down from high school, that had their standard raised because colleges were needing you to come in at a certain level.

So it has a trickle effect.

Now we're in third grade and third grade saying, wow, we have these children who are way behind second grade all the way down to kindergarten, in kindergarten, saying they're coming in, not prepared and not ready for what school looks like.

And so our job as serving the 0 or 6 weeks is when we take them in six weeks to five year olds, is we have got to give them an opportunity for a strong start to when they hit the ground running in kindergarten.

They're ready and they are excelling at the things that they're doing.

And I think that it really became like the push came to shove when it came to when I sent my first child off to kindergarten just in September this year, and I was just like, wow, I understand the standards are high and the things that they're learning at the rate that they're learning them.

I'm like, I wasn't there.

In fact.

Yes.

Yeah, it's it's incredible.

My daughter comes home and she's reading books and everything at this age.

And so when we when we look at a one year old and we're like, what is what's impactful about us pouring into a one year old?

Well, they need to know how to have eye contact.

They need to be able to engage in back and forth conversations.

Yea, like a conversation with the one year old Will babbling.

And if they're going the that, that, that and you're repeating it to them and adding on to what they're saying.

You're instilling language skills interesting at a very young age for them.

You're also developmentally with the milestones of gross motor and fine motor.

There's all these things that that strategically play a role in to becoming a child when they when they go to enroll in kindergarten.

And so if a child does fall behind developmentally, we provide the, the skill sets to be able to build upon that.

We have referrals that can be made for outside sources that may need to come in and give a little support for families and for the centers.

Our educators are continually doing professional development to know and be able to spot those types of things, those things that need the earlier intervention.

Right?

So they the sooner they can be identified, the sooner they come to us.

Yes.

Do you miss being in the classroom?

I'm still in the class.

Are you really?

Wow.

No, I mean, I'm I'm removed in my role.

There's a lot more that I do in the community, and, I'm part of a groundwork fellowship.

And, you know, there's there's there's different things that are part of my job, but my heart is to be in the classroom.

I love to be, understanding actually the work that we're doing and to have it, like, in the palm of my hands and not be so removed from it.

So we're talking with Chelsea Davis, the co-director of Toledo Day Nursery, Toledo's oldest nursery celebrating 155 years.

What does the celebration look like for you guys?

Just a lot of cake and donuts.

Yes.

We love it.

Yeah, it's a lot of candles.

Yeah, yeah, lots of candles.

Make sure there's no fire hazards.

We're up to date on code and everything so we can handle it.

So our goal is to make it another 155 years.

And so, yeah, I wouldn't say there's any, like, grandiose celebration that's in store.

We're just grateful and thankful for our community that's come around us for all this time.

So, yeah.

How do you keep your energy up for this?

Right.

Yeah.

I know your mom.

You have, four children.

If I'm right, and they're younger, that's exhausting.

I can speak for that.

First and foremost, also, so how do you keep up the fight?

Seems, hyperbolic, but it's a lot, right?

And you're in the mix of it.

How do you keep your energy up?

What keeps you going?

Honestly, it's just a calling.

And if I understand who I am and what a what I've been called to, and.

Yeah, being able to ride it out in that lane, it just it it is the source from the fuel is what I do.

And I think that, me being a mom gives me a lot more understanding, compassion for the families that we do serve and the busyness of their lives.

And so I think it's, as much as my home life bleeds into my professional life, I think that it works together cohesively.

And it's just rewarding.

Where is your quiet space?

You have to have someplace where you can be able to get away from the noise.

Is it my bed?

Yeah.

You can get under there.

Yeah, that is a very honest answer.

And we're grateful for my.

My wife hides, like, when it's like, snack time.

Like, the kids, like, have the ability to hear the package open.

Oh, yeah.

And so and then they want to eat whatever she's eating.

And so it's like if she can, like, hide back in the nook that every time she's eating, you know, a granola bar in the closet.

Because it's just like, okay, that sounds healthy.

I just need a moment.

Right?

Yeah, I get it buried under the bed.

She's actually just hiding from me, right?

Yeah, she just masking it with children softballs, right?

That's good.

But what would you say to moms who are reluctant to bring their child that young into a center?

Grandma taken care of them.

They're going to go over with their aunt and and and spend days there.

What what what would what would you say to them to maybe nudge them in a different direction to ensure that their child is prepared for kindergarten.

So I love that question.

I think that there is such a beauty in whatever it is that you're needing.

So if I'm a mom and I am hesitant to enroll in an early learning program terms, you know all the things I can't take off work.

I'm a professional and you know there's a lot of play into that right.

But grandma can stay home with my with my child and I think that that would be an absolutely beautiful route for that family, whatever it is that works.

But I do believe that the family that is providing the care has to understand what it is that they need to be pouring into that child to, again, that kindergarten readiness to get them ready for what that stage is in life.

So that would be trainings providing opportunities for caregivers to also, receive whatever that is, to have the preparation for them.

So as a part of the We Vision initiative, there are the centers, there's the family child care's also that are part of this.

We're trying to move this policy forward with quality early learning.

But there's also a component of it that's called the the caregivers section, which is the nannies.

It's the grandmas.

And looking at trying to push the need for funding for all of this across the gamut across it.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's very interesting.

When we lived in Dallas, our daughter Juliet was born and we became the first in our family, siblings, parents on both sides to put a kid in child care.

Everyone has always had a parent or an aunt or somebody that stayed home with the kids, and we were the first ones to do that, and we had so much like guilt going into that.

It is comforting, but it's like, but, you know, but Danny was like, I, I want to work, right?

I get fulfillment from that.

I want to go do that.

And so we all have to work.

Yes.

Right.

In modern times.

Yes.

And so and so we put our daughter in daycare and it was really hard because was just all of that, like were the, you know, are we failing somehow because we're doing this right?

When we moved back to Toledo and we pulled her out of that, child care center, I mean, I cried so hard the last day because they loved my daughter as much as I did.

Yeah.

And they gave us, I mean, I still we still have a photo book that they made of photos of all of the staff and my daughter.

And so, I mean, they just it was such a what a wonderful experience.

And I've got, you know, friends of friends of mine that have kids at Toledo Day and they say the exact same.

They they speak just as highly of the staff there that I felt about, the folks back in Texas, the whole family.

Right.

That's what that's what makes this coming around.

The love, the care, the compassion, all of that to someone else's child.

I think it's really a gift.

I also think that we struggle so much right now to find community.

We think that we're closer, but we're not because we get connected on our phones.

But learning how other kids and families are in, immersed in that experience is potentially one of our ways to salvation.

And I know that sounds like an exaggeration, but I believe that to be true.

Yeah, yeah.

Agreed.

All right.

It's that time has fun.

It's now time to play.

Gretchen's tracking wacky quiz.

Chelsea is ready for rapid fire questions from Gretchen's asking for your favorite thing in or about Toledo.

And then you can describe Toledo in exactly nine words.

Question number one if you could speak with the British royal family.

Wow.

Oh my gosh, what would you ask them?

To make a brief with Diana?

The British royal family.

I think I would ask them, this is bad for you.

All right.

This one, which celebrity annoys you the most?

Oh, socially acceptable to say.

I will say, Pass.

Not gonna pass.

Okay.

Mine is Kelly Clarkson.

No.

Yeah.

Can't standard kit standards as strong as.

Yes.

I think in production, I feel like everyone that I say I'm going to offend.

So like, I'm trying to, like, skate.

You know them.

I may be okay.

That's right.

You.

Yeah.

All right.

What's something that's always guaranteed to make you angry?

Kelly Clarkson picking my child up with sugary noses?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Just wipe.

Yeah.

Like who?

Out of all of your friends, do you admire the most?

I would say my friend Emily.

All right.

What is your number one most favorite thing or what you consider to be the best thing about the city of Toledo.

Okay.

You know, I was gonna say the parks, but I'm going to I'm not going to make the pun just because he's here.

Yeah.

So I'm gonna say, mommy, baby.

Okay.

I feel like mommy Bay is like, she had to go to another park.

Yeah.

So, Rosie, you're done.

Nine answers.

The next question.

I just feel like I feel like Mommy Day is a gem.

That's just no one.

No one highlights.

Yeah, if we did it, it would be done and everyone would know.

Yeah.

Anyway, so nine words describe the city or region.

Let's do it.

Okay, so my nine words are actually in a sentence.

Let's do it.

Okay, I love it.

She's a teacher.

Say we're.

Yeah.

The Glass City with the glass half full.

That's so cool.

Right?

Right.

Yeah.

So give all of our 50 some episodes.

Best one yet.

Chelsea co-director, Toledo Day Nursery.

People want more information on where can they find it?

Toledo day nursery.org.

It's our website.

Or you can visit our socials.

We're really active on our Facebook Instagram, LinkedIn.

You can find me on LinkedIn.

Julia myers.

She's my co-director.

She's on LinkedIn as well.

So great.

Happy to have you all.

Thanks for coming in so much.

Thank you.

When we come back, we are joined by the youngest guest ever on the 419 and she attends Toledo Day Nursery.

We'll be right back with Shelly and Ella Rankins on the 419.

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We're talking about Toledo Day Nursery.

And we're joined now by our youngest guest ever, Ella Shelly.

Yeah.

Thank you, thank you.

Yeah.

So Ella and her mom and Shelly.

So let's start Shelly with you.

You are not a just a parent at Toledo, Tennessee, but you also work there as well, I do.

What's your what's your role at Toledo?

Dad, my current role is, conscious decision support within the classrooms.

So about a year and a half, I stepped out of the preschool teacher role and into this, role that's supporting classrooms with their social, emotional development, individual students, teachers, teams.

It's kind of a new role we're still navigating.

But I'm kind of that emotional support for everyone.

That sounds.

And I love it, love me and love you so.

So what would happen if a child is misbehaving or to need whatever the situation is, they you go into the classroom.

What what is an example of something that you would do?

So an example of what I would do is, I'm in most of the classrooms.

I have good relationships with teachers and students.

So I'll do a lot of support as trying to understand what the communication is, what the child's trying to tell us, whether, it's a lack of skill, whether there's something going on, you know, so we just try to find out the why behind it and then kind of support the classroom teachers in the in the kids through that.

So.

Okay.

So this is complicated.

Shelly, what makes you uniquely a good listener in the space?

Because it does have to start with weighing when does occurring and listening to all manner.

So people from young to old and then parents which is a nightmare.

Yeah.

The adult aspect is new.

I have been in the field for probably 20 years, which I appreciate the comment of calling me young because that to me there, so 20 years I've worked with preschoolers.

So now kind of the adult avenue is new for me, but it's so cool because I've, I've been in their seat for so long that I can be like, I lived this.

I know what you're going through.

And it's a goal for them, the parent, if the parent involvement at that time period or around the time that there's an issue that they sort of echo whatever happens at school, at home.

Yeah.

Okay.

And that's the goal.

Obviously all parents are different.

They have their own styles.

But we definitely use those as opportunities to kind of grow and as a school family and say, this is how you can support us.

This is how we can support you.

Because as adults, we all are kind of learning how to regulate ourselves.

So if we can kind of encourage that avenue of parents to kind of learn some of those skills as well or strengthen them, then it's kind of it just helps everyone any moment or a favorite story.

Obviously not person's specific, but things that put some wind in your sails.

Oh, let me think.

I can't think of one after that.

I just it's when I left the classroom, I was really sad.

And this.

Yeah.

Like, this had been my people.

Yes, ma'am.

That was my space.

And then when I went into all the classrooms, we have one, two, three, 4 or 5, six, seven classrooms.

It was refreshing because I didn't realize I could love so many kids.

Oh my goodness.

You know, I wish I had my, like, 15, 20 and now I'm like, oh my gosh, now there's so many that I have, you know, relationships with and, that was a really cool kind of moment for me.

I were you surprised to hear that Chelsea hates the royal family so much?

And the first time I heard you know, I didn't hear that, Ella and I were kind of working through some feelings we were doing.

So I think Chelsea's working through some feelings about that.

But Parliament.

What?

We can probably work through that later and I will connect on that.

Like, do you like having your mom at school with you every day?

Yeah.

Is it fun?

What's your favorite snack?

Couple pepperoni.

That's not a TV snack, but that's definitely home snack.

A good qualifier for mom.

Yeah.

And what do you like about Daniel Tiger?

Oh.

Oh.

You don't know.

Is it because he's so cute?

Oh, probably got some good songs, too.

I heard that you have a birthday coming up.

How old are you going to be?

Not six.

That's not seven right now.

One.

Two.

Three.

Four.

Five.

Five.

There we go.

Oh, my big stage.

Oh.

Do you have any brothers and sisters?

Oh, yes a sister.

She older than you are.

Younger than you.

Oh.

And what do you guys like to do together?

Do you like to play together?

What do you share with her?

Pretty well.

Yeah.

No, I'm sure she's always trying to take your stuff.

Yeah, that's what big sisters do.

Yeah.

Did she go to school with you?

Yeah.

Where did she go to school?

Some other place in the kindergarten.

Well, she's in first grade now.

What's the most fun favorite thing you'd like to do with your sister?

Play under my bed.

Under your bunk bed, I love it.

What's your.

I know the answer to this, but I'm going to ask what's.

What's your favorite movie?

Oh.

That demon, the demon hunter.

My house.

Right now we are music people.

So the music really?

What is Hunter Biden?

You're having a demon hunter party?

Oh, that's the theme of the party.

Are we invited?

Yes, yes, yes.

We'll get you invitations.

Favorite demon hunter?

Joey.

Zoe.

Gotcha.

K-pop demon hunters is a it's like fun.

We are a baby.

Sasha.

House.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Hey, we'll find out how we are fighting them.

So sorry.

Yeah, well, I don't want to be fighting.

Not what's.

What's something you want for your birthday?

You have a lot of people watching a unicorn.

A real live unicorn.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's.

That would be great to write that down, mom.

So.

Yeah.

Okay.

A unicorn lies the.

Okay, we'll tell Nana and Papa and mediums what did he say?

What do you love the most about going to school at Toledo Day?

What do you love?

What would you love to learn there?

I love the fairy answer.

Yeah.

Cats.

Oh, yeah.

Do you have a cat at home?

Yeah.

What is his name?

Beverly.

Beverly?

Beverly?

Yeah.

Very formal name for a can.

Do you help take care of Beverly?

Yeah.

That's nice out.

Clean out the litter box.

Yeah.

No, that's big sister's job.

Yeah.

I finally moved to LA.

You do the dishes for the dishwasher?

What?

Yeah.

So you talk to my daughter?

Yeah.

Okay.

Do you have a buddy at school?

Who's your best friend in school?

I'll be.

Yeah.

Aria.

Aria, your good buddy.

When did you meet Aria?

Oh, baby.

When you were a baby.

In the baby room.

In the infant room.

I don't know if you heard this earlier.

I met my very best friend at my, preschool daycare.

So I was three, and he was like 100 now.

Oh, and you still talk to your best friend to this day?

So we've been friends for, 43 years.

Do you and Aria do things outside of school together?

Yeah.

What do you guys do?

Oh, like.

Yeah, like heck yeah.

What?

What are you most looking forward to to doing this summer?

What is he going to do?

Something really big and fun this summer.

The other day.

Lemonade stand.

Yeah.

Nice.

We're talking with Shelly and Ella Rankins with Toledo Day Nursery.

Can we come to your lemonade stand?

Yeah.

Okay.

How much is the lemonade?

Like, how?

90 and 100.

We'll take it.

So let's.

Nice this year.

Yeah.

Well, Shelly, let me ask you a question.

There is, no escaping children in work.

No.

Correct.

Yeah.

Talk to me a little bit about how what's wrong with you?

I don't like that.

I choose this, really?

Like, how do you decompress?

How do you manage the separation between work and home?

It's still a work in progress.

But talk to me about that.

That must be challenging.

Yeah, very.

Especially since we've all had the flu over the past week and a half.

Thanks for coming in.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

We're great.

This is.

It was kind of a refreshing change.

Demon hunter.

And also as a as a release.

We do the music.

I mean, we're very much a music family, so we can get some endorphins going, blood pumping, and just sing and dance it out.

But we do a lot at TDN.

We do a lot of mindfulness.

We do the conscious discipline kind of is a whole thing that I've kind of just incorporated into my whole life.

Sure.

It's just about being very conscious of what's going on in your body.

Yeah.

Very aware.

So I'm.

I still a work in progress.

I think it will always be.

But just knowing that when I'm overwhelmed, I need to step out and take a break.

Yeah, the kids will often, Hey, I'll be like, hey, mommy, just take a break and breathe.

Yeah, we'll kind of work through some breathing or, that's a time to let's play a goldfish game.

Let's do a puzzle.

Let's read, do some kind of connection just to kind of bring us all back together.

So what's the what's a lesson that adults can learn from kids?

Slow down, slow down.

We live in a very fast paced life.

She tells me often when I'm like, we got a car.

We can't get it in the car.

Mom, I'm not a fast person.

This is right.

You're right, you're right.

That's okay.

Yeah.

My flash doesn't have to be hers.

I just have to kind of, facilitate that so that I can slow down with her.

What's the role?

Technology and phones and things are playing with kids that are that are four years old, five years old, going into kindergarten?

That's a pretty sore subject with me, but I feel like, Gretchen does that all over again.

There's so technology, there's so many great things about it, but there's so many, like, harmful things.

We are a family that doesn't do a lot of technology.

Obviously, we watch TV demon hunters.

But we try, I they don't really play on my phone.

We don't really have tablets all the time.

Because it just takes away from their childhood and from our conversation and our learning and our playing together.

So, Yeah, unfortunately, technology has become very easy.

Yeah, but it is so different today than when we grew up, right?

I mean, the idea of my kids being somewhere across the neighborhood and like, street lights come on and they come home like, I just I can't imagine that.

Yeah.

But that's that was the childhood I grew up.

Yeah.

We played outside.

Yeah, we played outside in the woods and with our cats outside, you know, in the pond, in the ditches.

And, so I'm trying to recreate that for them as best I can.

Oh, don't go to that Miami Beach State Park.

Like, that place is a lot.

I don't know what's something that you guys are looking forward to doing as a family this summer.

We just swimming there.

Swimmers.

We love swimming.

We also have a vacation.

We go up to, Lakeside, Ohio, up in Port Clinton, and we've done it for, I think, 30 or 35 years with my family.

I so that's the time that all of the cousins get together.

We're all in one big house.

And, how many people are we talking?

Okay, 90 and 100.

More like 15.

Yeah, 15 to 20.

Like 900.

You could practice your lemonade stand there.

What?

What are you going to do with the money from your lemonade stand, Ella.

Yeah.

Buy a unicorn.

Put you buy, buy.

That is crazy.

What would you leave your unicorn.

Rose.

Rose.

Affordable family.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Ella, if you had to give a grade relative to, to Toledo Day nursery.

What do they get?

Do they get an A?

They get an A-plus?

Yeah.

No.

Oh, no.

Now you're.

Don't worry, mom, we can do a thumbs down.

What do we button down?

Thumbs down.

Oh, man, oh, boy, oh, boy.

You're ready.

Need some conscious discipline there.

Oh, yeah.

Deep breath Ella, you are our favorite and youngest guests.

So thank you so much for coming.

Good luck with your lemonade stand.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, you're not okay.

Well that's right.

Don't don't put her in a box.

She'll do whatever she want.

Figure out what we're wherever she is, and she's going to charge 90 to $100 for whatever.

Even for this information.

Yeah.

That's right.

Yeah.

That's right.

Ella, how much of the stuff that you're holding right now are you going to leave here?

And how much are you going to take with you?

Oh, yeah, I needed 100% of what she's ultra right now.

She's taking with her I love it.

You sure?

Daniel Tiger is all yours.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thanks for hanging with us today, Ella.

Did you have fun?

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

Thanks for bringing your mom.

Yeah, that was great.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much for being on the program.

But just one more time.

If people want information until we go to a nursery, where can they find it?

Toledo day nurse, Toledo day nursery.org.

Awesome.

Yeah.

Thank you.

So much, Ella.

You give me a big high five.

I want to see how strong you are.

Oh, wow.

You nailed it.

All right, Shelly and Ella Rankins, thank you so much.

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We're joined now by Courtney Fillion from just Toledo.

I said it at the start of the show that admittedly, And maybe I'm ashamed to say I don't know anything about just Toledo.

So.

I'm so excited you're here.

Thank you.

And and and for candor.

Courtney is a friend.

And, my partner in love adores you.

So.

Am so, so thrilled to have you on.

But I we sometimes run the risk of jumping too far ahead when we know our guest.

Fair.

Well, so can you start us from the beginning of this to talk about the really important philosophy that your stores embraced, and you have personally?

So our whole mission is to divert waste from landfills and waterways.

We started about seven years ago.

We formulate our own products.

Think of anything that kind of ends up in your recycling bin.

Shampoo, conditioner, lotion and soap.

We make several Castile soaps.

That's kind of how it started.

The idea is, we began with the milkman formula.

So you place an order online.

We deliver, you leave the order on your porch, and then when you order, the next time you leave your empties, you get refunded $3 for every container returned.

And then we wash and sterilize it for reuse, because you're taking some of the courage and work out of the beginning of this already.

And I know you'd be a very humble person, but why did you do this?

Why is this so important?

Well, all the way back in fifth grade, I taught a recycling plant of life.

Is that true?

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, that's a yeah.

Yeah, it really was.

And, I kind of blew my mind, and I became really annoying at home.

Like, you know, we have to recycle.

We have to recycle.

And now you've no longer annoying at home.

Right now, I'm still annoying at home.

But, then, like, when I went to college, I started to learn a little more about some of the misnomers of recycling and some of the shortcomings.

And I just started thinking about different ways we could do this.

And, you know, it took a long time.

And I slowly, over time, tried to think of different ways to avoid waste and limit it in my home.

And, I mean, I'm 47, so I only started when I was 40.

It's not like, you know, started there was a gap, but then we kind of started formulating and trying to think of ways that we could actually do this.

I'd been for years trying to find other ways in Toledo to live, more zero waste lifestyle.

And I realized it was really difficult.

So we just started thinking about all the things that we couldn't find and started seeing if we could find a solution at a risk of asking a really dumb question like, why is that important?

Why is this commitment to zero waste, important for everyone to embrace?

So it operates on a couple levels.

So the amount of I'm sure you've seen the horrifying images of plastic in the oceans and things like that.

So just by reusing containers, you reduce your waste impact tremendously.

And it can sometimes feel like it doesn't really matter.

You know, you go to the grocery store and, you know, you're carrying something out by a handle and someone next to you double bagging it with a plastic bags, and you're just like, what is the point?

You know?

But it does.

It does make a difference.

It's hard for us to do the exact math, but we figure we've diverted over 35,000 containers since we started and if you were to really fill that into a space, it's it's a large space.

And, there's so much more room to grow.

This might be getting a little bit had the interview, but, we asked this and a number of our guests that are doing, important things.

How do you keep up the energy of this?

Right.

And to your point, it can, I'm sure even to you who's a champion of this thinking.

Overwhelming, right?

Sure.

The double bagging is a great example of that.

And how do you keep hope alive?

I know that seems like a great way of asking, but how do you do it?

I don't know.

I guess we have such great customers.

My daughter was one of my business partners, is very shy, and she's just like, mom, our customers are so nice.

Like, they're they're so nice and appreciative.

And I think that's a huge thing that keeps us going.

And it can be fun.

Like, we do a lot of other fun things at the store.

So we expanded beyond the milkman model, got involved in the farmers markets, and now we're going to celebrate our third year at a store.

And it's a beautiful store.

But thank you.

Yeah, absolutely.

And we do located, 909 Jefferson downtown, right across from LaSalle cleaners and around the corner from Swanky Scoops ice cream and green crow plants.

So, yeah, we have a lot of artists receptions.

We have thrift and sip events, other kinds of things that involve the community, and those kinds of things are fun and energizing and, you know, help us kind of keep the wheels turning.

And being an entrepreneur or being a small business owner is really hard.

What gives you the energy to keep going?

I don't know.

Yeah.

That's that's that's such a factor too.

Yeah.

I mean, I guess like learning to be more like, protective of my downtime and things like that and just trying to be careful about that.

It's I mean, you see, your your daughter's one of your business partners, right?

I mean, that's that makes it tough, right?

That small business, as hard as it is small business with your family, like it's you don't really get a chance to put it down.

And so what what are some of those guardrails that you're trying to put up to say, hey, like is it is it when we get home?

It's not, you know what do you figure one out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well she doesn't live with me anymore and she's only partially involved.

So we definitely make sure we do a lot of things together that don't involve the business.

Although there is deep edge.

And sometimes I'll start talking about her and she'll start talking about it.

And then we have another business partner, Olivia, who's wonderful.

She came on about a year and a half ago, and, she's been wonderful and adds a whole other dimension to this.

So, what does success look like?

I mean, there with the, the goals of this is, certainly some of it is about just growing awareness that you can make sure visuals can make a difference.

So at the risk of putting you on the spot, how do you measure success even in an ideal state?

Just diverting more waste?

I mean, it sounds really dirty.

I know it does.

That is it's really exciting.

Yeah.

I mean, my job, yeah, it is hinged on this.

It's weird because it's kind of like a backwards idea because it's it's like removing something that wouldn't, you know, you don't want to be there, but it's just, you know, spreading that idea of consuming less.

There's so many things you can do, like amusement parks.

Yes.

We're talking with Courtney, filling in with just Toledo.

You brought some goodies.

I did, when you show us what you brought, because you brought some of your product, I know.

Do you guys want do you want to eat something or do you do anything you want to just, Well, I didn't want to just highlight our stuff, so I brought some.

We are really focused on local and mileage.

Something that does separate us from lot last time.

So the distance that a product takes, that it travels before, you know, it gets to the consumer.

So the fact that we produce our own products separates us from a lot of other zero waste stores.

A lot of times people don't think about, like your shampoo and conditioner and laundry detergent are comprised mostly of water.

So when you can make those products and get them locally, you keep all that water weight off the roads and it reduces your oil consumption.

there's a fine line between like, takes a lot of work and just takes a lot of intentionality.

Right.

And I think it's, you know, as you talk about some of this, it's like you know, to some extent, it's easy to go into the grocery store and just grab what's off the shelf, right?

You got to work a little bit harder for this, but your product goes, you know, again, a little bit goes a long way, right?

You get things like that.

Sometimes you talk to me about kind of that balance or how do you convince somebody that's it's used to, you know, I'm guilty of I come up with an idea, something I want to buy, and I'm on Amazon and sure, it arrives the next day.

Yeah.

And it's not set up to make it easy for us, but that's part of why we deliver super easy.

You can come in to the store, try some stuff out, just get a little ounce of different things.

We always have a free bar of containers, and then you can buy into the delivery system.

And super easy.

You don't have to go anywhere.

I can't emphasize this enough, and this will make you feel a control based on your very humble disposition.

But the store is welcoming.

You are welcoming the way that you articulate, something It doesn't also make people feel guilty.

I know that that's something that it's a challenge, like whenever, in my business and I work for the Metroparks talking about conservation, a lot of the messaging sometimes can feel like people getting their hand smacked.

All right, you are not that way.

You're the store welcoming in the people you connect with.

Are you an excellent advocate for them?

Well, now, I could give you an unfair question, if you don't mind.

Is there a singular, like, cultural interaction that really makes you cringe?

You've mentioned the double bagging.

Is there something else that you're like, oh, my God, they're using that or throwing it out done the judgmental way, but something that just seems like an easy one.

You I mean, you're you're a student of this, right?

So you've learned so much.

And so the general public may not realize totally how harmful this doing is.

Gosh.

Yeah.

No, I'm like a blank spot.

Yeah, I do, I get it, I double back I don't think of it.

Double bagging is certainly, you know, a great example.

It all happens just based on convenience, right.

Yeah.

Well, and bags are a whole.

Okay, this is but one time I went to buy a bathing suit, and I remember I said to the, oh, I don't need a bag.

And she was adamant.

She was like, no, you, you have to have a bag.

And it's like, no.

She's like, how will you get it out of the store?

And I was like, with my hands, I'm going to put it on immediately, you bozo.

Yeah.

But it's I mean, it's, it's it's really hard.

We're so conditioned.

Our lifestyles, force us to kind of work so much and feel like we don't have any time.

And I understand it's not.

It's not easy.

The guest we had, just prior to you, from day nursery, you know, daycares are never going to run us out because everyone has to work, right?

So the immediacy of the convenience of things is sold to us in just that fashion.

So, maybe it again, I got to overshoot this, but maybe never a better time to have a local leader talking about things that are important and making it accessible and having a conversation.

So I thank you for it.

If if a household six and.

All right, I want to I want to start walking down this road.

What's the first step.

Just start with one thing that you're starting to run out of.

If you're running low on laundry detergent, try laundry detergent.

It would never be my advice to just like, throw everything out and start over.

And the great thing is that laundry container, you know, you can.

We have directions on our website of how to turn it over.

You can turn that container over, bring that same container and and just start filling that one one thing at a time.

My family does prescribe to this, and obviously a boat loves you.

So it is doable.

And I've learned a lot, even in the short amount of time.

What are some of the partners?

I mean, obviously, you mentioned Gurley's barbecue sauce.

Who are some of the other partners that are that are helping you, create this, this ecosystem in northwest Ohio?

So when we started attending the farmers market, I started meeting a lot of the other vendors.

And they make wonderful products.

And again, you know, like there's water in a lot of these products or, you know, honey, but, it's just better to have them local.

You get all of those health benefits.

And so as we opened the store, we just started collaborating with them and wanted to feature their products in our store so that if you can't get to the farmers market, you can still access some of your favorites.

And this is not an exhaustive no, it certainly isn't a representation of the products we feature from local makers.

How big is the store?

It's about 1000ft.

It's not particularly large, and all the decorations are elephant tusks and black rhino horns.

Right?

Right.

Yeah.

Spot on.

Yeah.

It's just right on.

Right on brand.

That's right.

Yes.

That's right.

So somebody comes in for the first time, right.

I mean, I'm imagining myself walking for the first time, and I am clueless.

Sure.

What do I do?

We joke that our specialty is to overwhelm me with options.

But you can grab a container from one of our shelves.

You can grab a free one.

You could bring one in yourself.

We can talk through whatever you're in need of.

We can break down the ingredients.

You know how they work.

Why?

They're in there.

Their effect on the environment.

And then if you'd like to, you can create your own set.

So we don't we don't send things for you.

I mean, I brought a rosemary mint, but, you can spend some time, smell things and decide if you would like your product scented for an extra charge.

Always less expensive.

If you go with unscented because it's better for the planet.

Yeah.

Yes, ma'am.

That's a refer to mat is unscented.

Hair is the smell.

It is an important one of my shortcomings.

Yeah.

You're going to do pretty.

If people want more information on just Toledo, where can they find it?

We have a website just Toledo.

It's just pretty easy to find.

Facebook.

Just Lido.

Instagram, just lido.

Five years from now.

Ten years from now, what's the what's the goal for just Toledo?

Just we have grown very slowly and organically, and that is my hope that we just keep growing organically and at a pace that we can manage.

We've always been able to meet the needs of our clients.

Not that we never make mistakes, but it's never been too big that we've gotten, you know, overwhelmed.

So just a slow, incremental growth is what makes me comfortable.

No loans, nothing like, you know, it's all just been very organic.

Yeah.

Awesome.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, thank you.

It's such a pleasure to meet you and learn about your business.

I get to step in and and you can kind of help.

It's really cool.

Yeah.

Get me on the right.

We'll make it easy for you.

Yeah.

Perfect.

I'm going to.

You'll have to.

It's going to be a little monster.

Yeah.

All right.

Thank you so much to Courtney in for joining us.

When we come back, we'll wrap up this Tuesday edition of the 419 Welcome back into the 419 as we wrap up a Tuesday edition, with again, some incredible guests.

Yes, absolutely.

You never know what you're going to get when you bring a five year old.

Yes.

Into a TV studio.

Sure.

And Ella was absolutely adorable.

Yes.

She was, she was great.

I, I mean, you can see, I mean, I get around myself, like, she's going to be five, right?

And she held her own, and it kind of warmed up by the end and was understandably bored.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, I'm bored right now.

Can I get back?

Yeah.

We lost Gretchen.

Obviously.

She's off, to defending, the law.

But.

So she was certainly missed.

But her guest was great.

Courtney Fillion.

Was Toledo was a great store in the mission.

Is approachable.

I'm lucky to have met her as a, friendly basis.

And a really cool stuff.

This is part of what I say about Toledo.

One of the things I love is that, you know, we're we're small enough that I see a couple people I know every day, but big enough that I meet somebody new every day, too.

And I. I didn't know anything about just Toledo.

And so, you know, great thing about this program is your chance to meet, you know, great people doing great things around our community.

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