>> HANDFUL OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT VOTERS TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER CHICAGO SHOULD STAY A SANCTUARY CITY FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.

THIS COMES AMID THE CRISIS POSED BY THE ARRIVAL OF AT LEAST 23,000 MIGRANTS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ASYLUM SEEKERS SINCE AUGUST 2022.

MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON'S ALLIES ARE GETTING IN ON THE ACTION AS WELL WITH THEIR OWN PROPOSED REFERENDUM.

THAT WOULD ASK VOTERS IF THE CITY SHOULD HAVE SPENDING LIMITS ON MIGRANTS.

AND JOINING US NOW WITH MORE ON ALL OF THIS ARE ALDERMAN RAYMOND LOPEZ OF THE 15TH WARD AND ALDERMEN, BYRON SIGCHO LOPEZ OF THE 25TH WARD LOPEZ VERSUS LOPEZ.

TONIGHT.

WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

FIRST OF AND LOPEZ RAY LOPEZ.

THAT IS A CLARIFY.

WHAT DID THE SANCTUARY CITY PROTECTIONS PROVIDE RIGHT NOW?

WELL, RIGHT NOW, AS THE LAW STANDS, THE MUNICIPAL CODE SAYS THROUGH OUR WELCOMING CITY ORDINANCE OR SANCTUARY CITY ORDINANCE THAT.

>> IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, WILL OUR GOVERNMENT EVER COORDINATE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON ANY MATTER?

WHETHER IT'S WITH REGARDS TO HOUSING WITH HIS REGARDS TO CRIME, ANYTHING WE WILL NOT CONTACT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GUARDING SOMEONE'S.

PERCEIVED IMMIGRATION STATUS.

WE WON'T ASK THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS AND THERE USED TO BE CARVE OUTS WHICH I SUPPORTED KIND OF SETS THE PARAMETERS IN PLACE FOR WHEN WE COULD, IN FACT, ENGAGE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATED TO VIOLENT CRIME.

WHAT WE SAW DURING THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, THOSE CARS WERE TAKEN OUT AND THAT MADE US A MAGNET FOR THE POLITICS OF THE NATION, WHICH IS TRYING TO ADDRESS THE FAILURES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH REGARDS TO THE BORDER AND HAS SENT, AS YOU SAID, 23,000 PEOPLE TO OUR BACKYARD.

BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED DISCRIMINATE HERE BECAUSE ASYLUM SEEKERS AND THOSE ARE THE MAJORITY.

THE 23,000 FOLKS.

>> THAT ARE COMING HERE.

AND THEN THERE ARE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.

THE SANCTUARY CITY PROTECTIONS APPLY TO UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, NOT ASYLUM SEEKERS.

SO CORRECT.

WHAT'S THE POINT OF THIS ORDINANCE THE POINT OF THIS ORDINANCE AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PERFORM BEFORE THE VOTERS, WHICH IS SHALL WE REMAIN A SANCTUARY CITY IS THAT THAT POLICY IS WHAT'S DRIVING SO MANY INDIVIDUALS TO SEND THESE MIGRANT ASYLUM SEEKERS HERE TO THE CITY OF CHICAGO AND OTHER BIG CITIES AS WELL.

EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T NEED A CENTER ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE LEGAL STATUS, CORRECT?

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE WHO HAS TEMPORARY LEGAL PROTECTED STATUS, WHICH IS THE ASYLUM SEEKERS, WHICH ARE THE 23,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE STATE AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHO ARE HERE UNDOCUMENTED, WHO CAME HERE EITHER WITH THEIR PARENTS AS CHILDREN CAME HERE FOR A BETTER LIFE.

ALSO, WE KNOW THAT IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO AND THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, EVEN IF WE WERE TO REPEAL THIS ORDINANCE TOMORROW, THE STATE OF ILLINOIS STRUS TECH STILL GUARANTEES ALL THOSE PROTECTIONS WILL BE IN PLACE.

BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT IF THIS POLICY IS THE MAGNET THAT IS DRIP, BRINGING ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS HERE.

SHOULD WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS PAST BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE SOUTHERN STATES WHERE IT STARTED WITH THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS LIKE ABBOTT, DESANTIS.

WE NOW SEE DEMOCRATIC STATES USING OUR CITY AS A DUMPING GROUND FOR THEIR PRODUCT.

ALDERMAN 6 SHOW LOPEZ.

YOUR TAKE ON THIS PROPOSED REFERENDUM THAT WOULD ASKED VOTERS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD DO AWAY WITH SANCTUARY CITY PROTECTIONS.

WELL, I THINK INTEREST ON COUNTRY STATIONS ON THE ZEESHAN, THIS ENTRY A THING AS YOU RIGHTLY POINT OUT >> CENTURIES THAT IS THAT'S NOT A NOT A MAGNET IS INCORRECT TO BE.

LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CUBAN HAS ITEMS SEE THAT ARE COMING TO FLORIDA WITHOUT THAT STATUS.

THAT IS INCORRECT.

THAT IS NOT ACCURATE.

AND I THINK THAT WANT TO EMPHASIZE VERY CLEARLY IS THAT THESE WAS AN ORDINANCE WAS THAT THAT WASN'T WHO'S BEHIND WASHINGTON IN 1985.

THIS TO PROTECT THE HUMAN RIGHTS AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY IN THE CITY CHICAGO, SOMETHING THAT VAST MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS AGREE ON WHEN WE HAVE DISPARITIES OF THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL AS MY COLLEAGUE RIGHT POINT OUT MUST BE ADDRESSED, WHAT WE NEED TO STOP PANDERING FOR VOTES IN A TIME WE NEED TO HAVE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT ARE CREATING SOLUTIONS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.

NOW, THE FEDERAL POLICIES THAT HAVE SENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ASYLUM SEEKERS, INNER CITIES.

AND WHAT REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS DOING?

TALKS TO POLICE THAT YOU SUPPORT KEEPING THESE WELCOMING CITY SANCTUARY CITY PROTECTIONS IN EFFECT FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.

THIS IS ESSENTIAL FOR THEM.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

LOOK, EVEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY RIGHT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY CHICAGO IS A GUARANTEE THAT EVERY RESIDENT HISTORY TO THE SCENE, WE ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC MEETINGS ASKING PEOPLE TO COLLABORATE.

I DO THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT WELL-BEING AND INTEGRITY OF RACES NO MATTER WHAT THAT AND THE DIFFERENT DAYS, THE SATURDAY, THE CONDITIONS THAT SO I THINK THIS POLICY IS THAT NOTHING TO PANDER 2 DAYS THAT CORPORATE BECAUSE NOT OFFER ANY SOLUTIONS WE HAVEN'T.

WE HAVEN'T A SINGLE SOLUTION FROM REPUBLICANS.

WE SEE THAT ESPECIALLY AT EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT.

WHAT WE OFFERING OUT SOLUTIONS THAT ARE WE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MUST BE PART OF IMMIGRATION REFORM.

WE NEED TO STOP THE SHAPE FEDERAL POLICIES THAT ARE BRINGING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

I WE PREDICT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE INTO A COUNTRY.

DON'T CHANGE THIS FEDERALLY AND IN OR LOCAL LEVELS.

WE NEED TO DO IN CORONATION AND NOT PANDERING FOR VOTES AS I'M SURE SURE IT A PANDERING FOR VOTES WASN'T ENTERING FOR MOST I YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO SOMEONE SAY THAT WERE PANDERING FOR VOTES WHEN WE'VE SEEN FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION AND ITS ALLIES AND INCLUDING >> VARIOUS COMMITTEES WHERE A LOT IS BEING MADE FOR THE RHETORIC.

BUT THERE AREN'T ANY RESULTS.

WE NEED SOME COMPETENCE THAT FUELS THE COMPASSION THAT WE TALK ABOUT AND NOT SEEING WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW LIKE IN BRIGHTON PARK, WHERE YOU LITERALLY ARE TRYING TO PUT 2000 INDIVIDUALS WHO WE SAY WE CARE ABOUT WHO WE SAY WE'RE WELCOMING ON TO A TOXIC BROWNFIELD ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE.

WE HAVE ZONING CHAIRMAN WHO DIDN'T CARE THAT THERE WAS NOTHING BEING BUILT WITH PERMITS.

WE HAVE THE REAL ESTATE CHAIRMAN WHO DIDN'T CARE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE PROPER AUTHORIZATION COUNCIL OVERSIGHT TO GET ONTO THAT PROPERTY.

WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CHAIRMAN WHO DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE TEXAS CITY OF THAT SITE AND AN IMMIGRATION CHAIRMAN CARE THAT THIS WAS THE BEST THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH IN THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRIGHTON PARK, 10 CAMPS FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS AND THE WHOLE PROCESS.

BUT BUT BACK TO THE REFERENDUM, HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO THE REFERENDUM?

AGAIN, THIS IS VERY MUCH A MAGNET AND ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT POLICY IS NOT A MAGNET CLEARLY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE POLITICS OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON HERE THAT WE'RE BEING PLAYED RIGHT NOW BY INDIVIDUALS WHO SAY THAT YES, YOU ARE SANCTUARY CITY.

VOTERS GET TO SEE PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT, VOTERS DECIDE TO GET RID OF IT.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT WON'T BE A MEGA EVEN THOUGH YOU SAID THE STATE?

>> STILL IS GOING TO HAVE THESE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, AS WE'RE DOING WITH THIS ISSUE, WE SEE COMMUNITIES WHO ARE SAYING WE DON'T MIND IF WE HELP.

WE WANT TO HAVE A SAY WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THEM AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR ALL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DISINVESTED 4 YEARS.

GOING BACK TO THE HAROLD WASHINGTON DAYS.

>> THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A CATCHALL FOR EVERYBODY 2 COME HERE TO GET HAND OUT AND TO HAVE OTHER COMMUNITIES ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ABOUT.

AND IT'S REALLY DISINGENUOUS TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO KEEP THROWING HAROLD WASHINGTON OUT ON THIS ISSUE WHEN IT DOES THE BLACK COMMUNITY THAT IS IGNORED THE MOST ALL OF THIS.

ALL RIGHT.

WHEN THEY ARE SEEING THAT THEIR COMMUNITIES ARE BEING INVESTED IN FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF ADDRESSING THIS MOMENT WHEN WE'VE COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ABOUT INVESTING IN THEM THROUGHOUT THE ALL OF INSECURE LOPEZ, THERE'S THAT THERE'S A COMPETING POTENTIAL REFERENDUM BEING FLOATED.

THAT WOULD BE.

>> BACKED BY THE MAYOR BACKED BY THE MAYOR'S ALLIES.

WHAT WOULD THAT DO?

>> I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO OFFER SOLUTIONS, RIGHT?

I THINK IS CLEAR IT IS CLEAR THAT THE CENTURY CITY IS NOT A MAGNET ASHORE WITH EVIDENCE ON THE STATES THAT DON'T HAVE THAT THEY DESCENT RATES.

THAT UNFORTUNATELY, AGAIN, BY THE PUTTING PRESSURES OF ALL OF THESE IN CITIES LIKE OURS.

I THINK FRANCIS, I WOULD MENTION THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE SHOW.

I LOVE MY COLLEAGUE ENOUGH TO GETTING BORED WITH INITIATIVES LIKE RESTORING THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL OF THESE WITH ON THE TRANSPARENCY.

BUT I WOULD BE REMISS I MENTION THAT SOME OF MY SOME COLLEAGUES, INCLUDING MY COLLEAGUE HERE, THE 15TH WARD.

WHEN WE'RE SEEING THESE A YEAR AGO, THEY WERE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.

YOU CAN LOOK INTO A TRACK RECORD TO SEE.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE.

WE DID ALSO PREPARING PLANS WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE IN THE LAST SEEMS MAYOR JOHNSON HAS BEEN OFFICE BUILDING IS SHOWN EVERY WEEK.

BUT WE HAVE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS THAT THE MORE INTERESTING POUNDING AND THOSE DEALERS AND ALL THOSE INTERESTS THAT CAN FUEL THIS INVESTMENT.

TALK ABOUT THIS OTHER PROPOSED REFERENDUM, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY ASKED VOTERS, SHOULD THERE BE LIMITS ON MONEY SPENT ON ASYLUM SEEKERS OR IMMIGRANTS COMING HERE AND LIMITS ON HOW LONG THEY CAN STAY CARE ABOUT THAT IS THAT IT'S COMPROMISE.

PARIS SAID IT'S JUST PERFORMATIVE POLITICS AT ITS BEST BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REACH YOUR LIMIT?

>> WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU PUT ON THIS REFERENDUM THAT WE WILL ONLY SPEND 100 MILLION DOLLARS IF YOU SAY YES, AND WE GET TO 101, ARE WE GOING TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY?

ARE WE GOING TO SAY NO?

ARE WE GOING TO RELY ON EMERGENCY ORDERS?

>> TO OVERRIDE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

IT'S A FALSE CHOICE THAT WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUTTING IN PLAIN AND SIMPLE TERMS.

DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE DOWN THIS YES OR NO AND MAKE OUR POLICIES MATCH WITH THE PEOPLE WANT BECAUSE WE ARE ULTIMATELY HERE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

I LOVE THAT.

PEOPLE WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS COUNTRY THAT THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF THE CITY.

BUT THERE HAS TO BE PARAMETERS TO OUR GENEROSITY AND WE'RE GET I WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEARD ON THAT.

NOT GIVE THEM SOME WE WE KNOW THE GAMES THAT GET PLAYED WITH REFERENDA.

YOU'RE ALLOWED 3 REFERENDA, PUBLIC REFERENDA ON THE BALLOT.

WE HAVE ONE, WHICH IS THE BRING CHICAGO HOME OWNERS THAT'S THERE.

ONE OF THESE MIGHT BE, TOO.

AND THE WHOLE GAME IS YOU PUT TO KIND OF MAYBE SILLY REFERENDA ON THERE.

SO YOU CROWD OUT REFERENDUM THAT OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT WANT.

SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT WITH LET ME LET ME TO READ HAVE TO RIGHT.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE ONE THESE 2 ARE GOING TO COMPETE FOR NUMBER 3 LAST OF THE 3.

WHAT WE BEEN CHICAGO HOME OR AND IT FOR THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE ABOUT A LOT MY COLLEAGUES TALK ABOUT COMPASSION, TALK ABOUT INVESTMENT.

>> TO SUPPORT THIS COMMISSION'S, WE HAVE PEOPLE QUESTIONING OPPOSING ANYTHING, RIGHT?

WE'RE PROPOSING NOW A DEDICATED.

>> A REVENUE STREAM TO ADDRESS HOUSE RESIDENCE.

WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REFRAIN WAS IN POWER, RESIDENTS TO CREATE SOLUTIONS.

WE HAVE A THING HERE IN THE FLOOR THAT THE CENTURY QUESTION HAS NOTHING TO OFFER SOLUTIONS.

WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

250,000 CUBAN RESIDENTS HAVE COME TO TO FLORIDA WITHOUT A CENTURY.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT?

JUST VERY QUICK, VERY QUICK, THERE'S NO REASON WHY YOU CAN'T ALLOW DEMOCRACY TO BE PART OF THIS IF YOU'RE WILLING TO ALLOW THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO INCORPORATE, BRING HOPE.

I CHICAGO THIS IS PUSHING THEM ASSETS RIGHT HERE AND WE'RE