>> It's time for Chicago to come to the table or get the out of the way.

That was a message from Tom Homan.

President-elect Trump's President, Donald Trump's incoming so-called border czar during a visit to the city's northwest side this week, the Democratic city and state officials are pushing back as home in says Chicago will be ground 0 for mass deportations.

Joining us now with more are an Alderman Raymond Lopez of the 15 Ward, which includes Brighton Park Gage Park in back of the yards and aldermen goggles are murals of the 35th Ward, which includes Logan Square.

And Abdel, thank you both for joining us now, aldermen Lopez.

I want to start a new job you met with home in on Monday.

What did you discuss?

>> So on Monday join I had a private meeting with Tom Homan who will be coming in to address the border security for returning President Donald Trump and we discussed how we can work together to narrow the scope of what they are trying to accomplish.

President Trump said that he wants to deport those who are in this country illegally.

But I think their goal is to focus on those who are here, whether they're undocumented or are the asylum process with temporary protective status and are committing heinous, dangerous crimes in our country.

In our Those individuals we formally would turn over to federal authorities.

>> Under the old welcoming city ordinance that have been in existence for decades since the Lightfoot administration.

We no longer cooperate in any means.

And Holmen stated that without the ability to work with our law enforcement just on those individuals committing some of the most dangerous acts in our neighborhoods.

They are going to go after those individuals regardless, however, they may wind up getting some of the long term undocumented who are doing right in our city following the laws.

But nonetheless, we'll have to be taken.

And that's something that we desperately want to avoid happening and focus solely on removing those criminals committing those acts.

Once they are here.

>> And now the mayor made feel.

So what are your thoughts on on Alderman Lopez is is saying?

>> Yeah, I think first of you know, I think it's funny that home talking about criminals.

When we have a convicted offender in the White House with President Donald Trump at the same time, home and has said that he believes that all undocumented immigrants in the nation are criminals.

So he's casting a very wide definition of what it means to be a criminal.

Even though entering the country without proper documentation is not criminal act.

It is a civil violation, not a criminal violation.

So 2 Trump edge a home every single undocumented person in our communities, whether their mother, whether they're law-abiding individual, whether a property owner with their small business owner, they are criminals that need to be deported.

I also want to address what my colleague said that there are people abusing of temporary protective status.

That is a complete farce.

That is ridiculous statement to temporary protected status.

The status that is given to people whose home countries are in emergency situation.

It is given by the president of the United States ordered to provide those people with temporary protection while they are in this country.

So to say that people are violating, means that it's a bear individuals.

I sort agree there aren't lot I did not interrupt you, please.

No, I'm not going to lie to those wires that use you the My lot ally like the president that you support.

You said that people are abusing.

Yes, there's just no way that they are solely reality >> Well, lets get lit lets you know, I want to go to the next question.

You know, wide Rose.

I want I want to go this questions for you again.

Why do you think he's targeting Chicago?

First?

And he's, you know, Trump's mass deportation operation.

>> Well, look, I think that, you know, President Trump is repeating many of the same things that he said during his first term in office.

He said he wants mass deportations.

He's saying that he's going to have raids and big Democratic cities like Chicago.

Ultimately Trump deported fewer people than President Obama on a year-by-year basis.

And and ultimately the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are not criminals.

They come here to work.

They come here to build a family.

The property owners are small business owners.

And so if Trump were to have mass deportations, the impact would be devastating.

Our communities would see higher property taxes.

We would see small business quarters close down in our neighborhoods, including in the 15th board.

And so we do not want mass deportations.

And that is why we have to oppose Trump's policies because Trump's policy is one of mass deportations.

Home saying that every single person in this country without papers is a criminal.

That means they're targeting everyone in our neighborhoods.

And in addition to that, I just want to add their century city policy is a public safety policy.

No one should be afraid to call 9-1-1 if undocumented immigrants think that a call to 9-1-1, emergency will result in them being turned over to ice.

They're less likely to report an abuser.

They're less likely to report a shooting in the community.

They're less likely to call 9-1-1 when there's a fire.

So art centricity policy makes us all safer because it ensures that no one is afraid to call 9-1-1.

I has the resources that they need to target criminals.

If I just want to target criminals, they can use the investigative tools at their disposal to target the criminals that they feel are the priorities to be deported, but they should not be using our city resources.

They need to go towards public safety and he took the gold towards keeping everyone safe.

>> Now, girls, I want to go to Alderman Lopez.

You said there should be a conversation between Johnson and the Trump's administration.

Why do you think now?

What do you think could be accomplished during this conversation on?

Because it's clear there's we disagree.

People disagree on how to go about deportation plan.

>> Well, again, we want to focus on board meeting our efforts for public safety least.

That's something that is very sound correct from what my colleague said.

But only one of us is not in support of supporting criminals.

You cannot make regular undocumented long term undocumented individuals and put them in the same categories.

Those that are here shooting committing human trafficking, crimes against minors.

Why would anyone want to give those individuals protection is beyond me.

And those are the ones that we want to have.

Whether you are undocumented, whether you are legalize migrant for citizen.

Everyone agrees that those individuals do need to be here.

We are not trying to protect those individuals.

And if you allow the federal government to get those individuals extricate them when we arrest them on any of those crimes.

Yet the federal government has resources to go after them.

But there are also going to wind knocking on doors in my community.

And Carlos is and pass.

We get individuals are not looking for and I'm worried about them.

And it's a shame that those who come to pick ate the most least concerned about what's going on with the families that are going to be most impacted.

The fact of the matter join is very simple.

New York is already saying how can we work together so that we can narrow your scope?

California is saying even Governor Pritzker yesterday said how can we narrow the scope of what you're going to so that we can work together only want to work are saying no to President Trump at this point they do have was at a question that you also had with home.

And because as we know you did mention of there's over 500,000 undocumented workers living in Illinois.

How?

>> You know, what do what do you say to them?

Who are, you know, in fear or concerned?

>> What I can say is very simple that after speaking with home and their concern is right now going after the most violent individuals in our communities that we can remove that we can work together to address those who are long-term residents.

Those that were been promised a pathway out of the shadows by Democratic and Republican presidents and have never seen that happen.

Should not be concerned because those are not when they're most concerned about.

Additionally, we have also seen where President Trump has said twice now he's wearing working to create a path forward for Dreamers.

For those who've been forgotten about by all the politics of Washington, D.C., and if we can work together to help facilitate his goal and ours of bring a pathway for Dreamers, then we should take that opportunity to do so.

>> All Do you see any possible compromise compromises in terms of deporting someone who was convicted of a crime while in the U.S. >> So one thing I want to address is what my colleague said that the city of Chicago should not stop ice from detaining criminals.

People engaging in a trafficking, serious crimes.

There is no way legally that the city of Chicago can prevent that.

Ice has the resources that it needs to conduct investigations to figure again, that's a line and to be able to target their enforcement.

That is the reality.

The reality his allies as sources that it needs in order to go and figure out for the violent criminals that they want to deport.

The only you would need to use city resources is if you want to cast a wide dragnet that catches everyone.

The person who Jay walks, the person who's driving on a suspended license, the parcels, you are a liar.

And, know, know where the live your and ignored for years saying yourself, to give you should get absolutely a shame are still reading.

you are a lot injuries Plaza how to make arguments on the and Alderman Lopez.

I want to give.

>> You know, I I know we have 2 different opinions here in 2 different ways of thinking.

So I just want to end it at that.