INITIATIVE FOR REDUCING VIOLENCE IN CHICAGO.

>> THE CHICAGO CITY COUNCIL VOTED 34 TO 14 WEDNESDAY TO ENDORSE AN EFFORT TO OVERTURN MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON'S DECISION TO SCRAP THE CITY'S USE OF SHOTSPOTTER.

THE VOTE CAME AFTER AN INTENSE DEBATE OVER THE GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM.

HERE'S ALDERMAN DAVID MOORE DEFENDING THE ORDER HE SPONSORED FROM CRITICISM LAUDED HIM BY ALDERMAN JASON ERVIN.

>> WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.

BUT ONE PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY AND AGAIN, THIS GOODNESS, IT IS A LITTLE YOU WANT TO CALL.

DOESN'T DO A THING TO GET US SO AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT HIM IN.

>> ALL THE MEN YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER.

ALDERMAN.

THAT MORE.

YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER, >> OKAY.

SO THAT WAS FIRST ALDERMAN JASON ERVIN.

BEN, YOU HEARD ALDER DAVID MOORE TRYING TO DEFEND HIS HIS MEASURE.

WTW NEWS REPORTER HEATHER SHARON JOINS US NOW WITH MORE.

HEATHER, AN INTERESTING LET'S START WITH WHAT EXACTLY THIS ORDER WOULD DO.

>> WELL, ALDERMAN DAVID MOORE SAYS IT WOULD BASICALLY DO 2 THINGS.

ONE, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO START COLLECTING MORE DATA ABOUT HOW SHOTSPOTTER ACTUALLY WORKS.

IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A CITY COUNCIL VOTE IF THE SHOTSPOTTER SYSTEM IS REMOVED FROM EVERY WAR.

AND NOW THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THIS ORDER IS ACTUALLY LEGAL OR ENFORCEABLE.

BUT IN ANY CASE, TODAY'S VOTE WAS A DISTINCT REBUKE OF MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON WHO HAD ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL NOT TO APPROVE THIS MEASURE.

AND AS HE SAID, HE CANCELED SHOTSPOTTER.

THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT TWO-THIRDS OF THE CITY COUNCIL DISAGREES ON SOME LEVEL WITH THAT DECISION.

>> KNOW SEVERAL BLACK OLDER PEOPLE APPEARED SERIOUS, HEATHER, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD EVEN SUPPORT A PLAN TO REMOVE A TOOL THAT THEY BELIEVED TO BE AFFECTED IN CRIME FIGHTING IN THEIR LET'S LISTEN TO 24TH WARD ALDERPERSON MONIQUE SCOTT.

I'M SO DISAPPOINTED AND SO MANY OF YOU.

I AM DISAPPOINTED.

>> I HAD ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING.

I HAVE TO LEAVE HERE AND GO TO.

AN OPERATION FOR MEGA MASS SHOOTING.

THIS IS THE MASS SHOOTING THAT IPAD SAYS BEING AN ODD ONE.

SO I THANK ALL OF YOU.

I THINK I THINK EVERYONE WHO VOTED.

I THANK YOU.

THIS IS SOMETHING MY COMMUNITY NEEDS.

>> HEATHER, HOW ABOUT THAT IS ALDERWOMAN SCOTT, RIGHT?

DUE TO PEOPLE BELIEVE THE SHOTSPOTTER ACTUALLY DOES STOP GRANT.

>> WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DEFINE FIGHTS CRIME FOR MANY OLDER PEOPLE.

IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE THAT IF YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT TELLS THE POLICE WHEN THERE ARE GUNSHOTS, THEY CAN GET THERE FASTER AND ADDRESS WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS.

BUT A REPORT FROM CHICAGO'S INSPECTOR GENERAL FOUND THAT 90% OF THE TIME THAT SHOTSPOTTER SENDS THE CPD AND ALERT.

IT IS NOT A BONA FIDE GUNSHOT.

AND ALSO A REPORT FROM COOK COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY KIM FOXX, WHO I KNOW WILL BE HEARING FROM HIM A LITTLE BIT SAID THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT THAT SYSTEM LEADS SURE MASKS OR SORT OF HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR CRIMES.

SO IT IS VERY MUCH A SITUATION WHERE NOT ONLY DO OLDER PEOPLE DISAGREE ON WHAT TO DO.

THEY DISAGREE ABOUT THE FACTS OF THE MATTER, WHICH IS WHY TODAY'S MEETING WAS SO >> OK, SO THERE ARE OTHER ALL THE PEOPLE, THOUGH, WHO SAY THE SYSTEM ACTUALLY MAKES BLACK AND LATINO CHICAGOANS LESS SAFE.

HERE IS 26 WARD ALDERPERSON JESSE PUENTES.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON HOW WE TAKE THE SAME MONEY THAT WE GET SHOT.

SPOT IT TO DEVELOP A SYSTEM THAT PREVENTS GUN SHOOTING IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE REALITY IS IS THAT THE SOUTH AND WEST SIDE COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE KEEP THEIR COMMUNITY SAFE.

THE SAFEST COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITY BENNETT HAVE SHOT SPOTTED.

>> HEATHER, WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT AGAINST SHOTSPOTTER?

>> WELL, THEY POINT TO THE DEATH OF 13 YEAR-OLD ADAM TOLEDO, WHO WAS SHOT BY A CHICAGO POLICE RESPONDING TO A SHOTSPOTTER ALERT.

IT SAYS IT SENDS OFFICERS INTO BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES IN CHICAGO READY TO FIRE, CONCERNED THAT THEY ARE AT RISK AND THAT PEOPLE ARE AT RISK AND THAT IT DOES NOTHING TO PREVENT SORT OF GUNFIRE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND THAT WAS THE CENTRAL ARGUMENT.

MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON MADE IN THE 2023 MAYORAL CAMPAIGN.

ALSO WHY ALDER ALDERMAN FUENTES AND OTHER PROGRESSIVE OLDER PEOPLE RAN ON A PUTS THEM AT ODDS WITH ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT PART OF MAYOR JOHNSON, SPACE, BLACK, OLDER PEOPLE WHO HAVE REPRESENTED WARDS THAT HAVE FACED DECADES OF DISINVESTMENT AND FACE PERSISTENTLY HIGH LEVELS OF CRIME AND VIOLENCE.

>> AND HEATHER, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

>> WELL, I ASKED THE MAYOR AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IF HE WAS PREPARED TO VETO THE MEASURE WHICH PASSED WITH 34 VOTES.

SO IT'S ALL OF THOSE FOLKS STAY IN PLACE.

THE CITY COUNCIL COULD OVERRIDE ANY VETO, WHICH HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN CITY HISTORY.

BUT THE MAYOR SAID THAT THIS MEASURE DOES NOTHING.

IT'S UNLAWFUL.

SHOTSPOTTER REMAINS CANCELED AND THAT HE'S NOT SURE WHY THERE WAS SO MUCH HUBBUB ABOUT THIS MEASURE WHETHER THAT WILL CARRY THE DAY, I THINK IS VERY MUCH AN OPEN QUESTION.

THIS WILL ONLY EMBOLDEN SUPPORTERS OF SHOTSPOTTER WHO WANT TO SEE IT STAY IN CHICAGO'S COMMUNITY.

OK, CONTROVERSY NOT GOING AWAY YET.

HEAD OF OWN AT CITY HALL FOR THANK YOU.

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