GOT HERE FRESH OUT OF CITY TRAFFIC FROM CITY COUNCIL.

THINGS GOT SO HEATED CITY COUNCIL LAST FRIDAY.

THE MAYOR HAD TO CLEAR OUT THE CHAMBERS FOR A RESET.

PUBLIC PROTESTS OVER A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING ISRAEL.

GROWING FRUSTRATION OVER THE MIGRANT CRISIS AND CRITICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MAYOR.

16.6 BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET PROPOSAL ARE ALL THE TOPS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS MINES.

AND JOINING US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE ISSUES AND MORE ARE ALDERMAN RAY LOPEZ WHO REPRESENTS THE SOUTHWEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE 15 FORD FROM 28TH WARD ALDERMAN JASON ERVIN, CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET COMMITTEE AND BLACK CAUCUS AND ALDERMAN ANTHONY BEALE OF THE 9TH WARD ON THE FAR SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY.

WELCOME ALL OF YOU AGAIN.

THANKS FOR GETTING HERE IN THE HEIGHT RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC.

SO WANT TO GET TO THIS A RESOLUTION ABOUT ISRAEL.

THE LANGUAGE WAS TWEAKED HERE TO INCLUDE STATEMENTS THAT ARE SYMPATHETIC TO PALESTINIANS IN GAZA WHO ARE CAUGHT UP IN THIS WAY.

THIS BECOME SUCH A FLASHPOINT, DO YOU THINK?

YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE GOT THAT A RESOLUTION PASSED WEDNESDAY, BUT THEY WANTED TO PUT UNTIL FRIDAY.

>> AND HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR JUST WE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WEDNESDAY, HAD A LITTLE BIT OF DEBATE AND BEEN DONE WITH IT BECAUSE EVERYBODY AGREED THAT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, CONDEMN HAMAS AND WHAT THEY WHAT THEY DID.

BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT ISRAEL AND AS WELL AND SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISENFRANCHISED ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND SO HAMAS IS THE REAL PROBLEM.

AND THE RESOLUTION WAS TWEAKED TO BASICALLY GO AFTER HAMAS.

AND THIS IS JUST VERY SENSITIVE FOR SO MANY IN LOPEZ.

YOU'VE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT FEEL LIKE THE PLIGHT OF PALESTINIANS IS BEING IGNORED HERE.

OTHER FOLKS SAYING THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS THE BARBARISM PERPETRATED AGAINST ISRAELIS.

SO THIS RESOLUTION BRING ALL THAT TOGETHER.

I THINK THE POINT OF THE RESOLUTION WAS TO FOCUS ON WHAT WAS BEFORE THE WORLD FROM LAST WEEKEND, WHICH WAS THAT?

>> A TERRORIST GROUP INVADED ISRAEL AND KILLED 1400 PEOPLE AND BUTCHERED MORANT WOUNDED 10'S ALMOST 8,000 PEOPLE KIDNAPPING 150 BACK INTO THE GAZA.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORLD KNEW THAT LIKE SO MANY GOVERNMENTS AND PEOPLE THAT WE CHICAGO, THE CITY COUNCIL BEHIND THE VICTIMS, THE FAMILIES AND THOSE TRYING TO BRING JUSTICE FOR HAMAS.

DID.

BUT WHAT HAS MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE SAW WAS THAT THERE ARE MANY INDIVIDUALS WANT TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT MILLENNIA OLD.

IT FEUD IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WHICH IS NOT THE TIME OR THE PLACE FOR THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED, LIKE A 9.11, WIN GOVERNMENTS AND AROUND THE WORLD CAME TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE A PART OF.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE NOT GET LOST INTO THE PARTICULARS OF OTHER ISSUES.

GOT SO HEATED ALDERMAN IRVIN THAT THE GROUPS FOR THEIR PROTESTING IN THE MAYOR TOOK THE UNPRECEDENTED STEP OF JUST BASICALLY CLEARING OUT.

>> THE WHOLE YOU THINK THE MAYOR DID THE RIGHT THING?

THEY'RE JUST KIND OF SHUTTING EVERYTHING DOWN.

YOU KNOW, EMOTIONS WERE VERY HIGH DO IN A PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME DURING A MEETING.

AND I DO BELIEVE YOU MADE THE RIGHT DECISION CLEAR TO CHINA BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GOING TO GO OFF THE RAILS FURTHER.

>> HAD WE NOT TAKEN THE STEPS TO HAVE SOME DECORUM PUT INTO THE CHAMBER.

BUT I DEFINITELY GREW BOTH.

MY COLLEAGUES HERE RELEASED 2 OF THE NEED TO CONDEMN HAMAS AND AS WELL AS TO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS IN ISRAEL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO RESOLUTION, AGAIN TWEAKED AND NOW PAST.

LET'S PIVOT TO THE MIGRANT SITUATION.

ALDERMAN DEAL.

>> YOU'RE PROPOSING TO LET VOTERS DECIDE ON THAT CHICAGO CONTINUES ON AS A SANCTUARY CITY.

SO YOU TRY TO GET A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT.

WHAT BELIEVE THE CITY MAY IT SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT STATUS ANYMORE.

WELL, IN THE ORDINANCE SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE A STATUS, BASICALLY SAYS THE PEOPLE OF CHICAGO HAVE NEVER BEEN ASKED THE QUESTION, SHOULD WE OR DO WE WANT TO BE A SANCTUARY CITY UNDER THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN NOW TIME IT HAS THE CLIMATE HAS CHANGED FROM WHEN HERE.

WASHINGTON FIRST MAKE THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER IN PLACE.

MORE PEOPLE COMING TO CHICAGO AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE THING TO ORDINANCE OR ORDINANCE ITSELF TO SAYS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND GOODS TO PEOPLE WERE COMING HERE.

ALL IT SAYS THAT WE SHOULD NOT COOPERATE WITH ICE AND ANY OTHER FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE PORTION OR DETAIN.

IF NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE HUNDREDS 100'S OF MILLIONS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SUPPORT SAME TIME.

THEY'RE HERE.

WHAT OTHER OPTION IS THERE?

WELL, THAT THEY GET THE HERE BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT HIM IF THEY KNEW WE WERE GOING TO THEY WOULD BE COMING HERE.

AND SO IF SOMEBODY TOLD YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU HOUSING HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, COLD, A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD 3 MEALS A DAY WHO WOULDN'T COME TO THE UNITED STATES?

RAY LOPEZ IS THERE.

26 VOTES FOR A RESOLUTION LIKE THAT?

IT SEEMS LIKE GIVEN THE TENOR OF CITY COUNCIL THERE WOULDN'T BE?

WELL, I THINK WE HAVE A VERY INTERESTING SITUATION BREWING IN CITY COUNCIL WHERE THE MAYOR AND HIS PROGRESSIVE ALLIES WANT TO HAVE A REFERENDUM ON RAISING PROPERTY TAXES IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

SO WHY CAN'T YOU WHEN YOU HAVING A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO RAISE TAXES, HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT TO REMAIN A WELCOMING CITY.

I THINK THOSE ARE 2 VALID QUESTIONS AND BOTH ARE WORTHY OF THE VOTERS.

DECISION AT THE BALLOT BOX.

AND WHAT WE SEE NOW, AS MY SAID IS THAT WE HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SEEING NEARLY 250 MILLION DOLLARS SPENT AND PEOPLE NOT NATIVE TO THE CITY WHO HAVE BEEN SHIPPED HERE BECAUSE OF THE POLITICS OF THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

THE FAILURE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE JUST IN A MEETING IN THE WEST SIDE WHERE THEY SAY IT'S GREAT THAT WE WANT TO HELP THEM.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HELP THAT TO THE COMMUNITIES ON THE SOUTH AND THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE WERE UNABLE TO HELP WITH COMMUNITIES SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE WESTSIDE IMPACTED BY THE FLOODING BECAUSE OF THE FEMA AND ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT STAND IN OUR WAY.

BUT WE FUND MONEY TO HELP IN THE SITUATION ON THE WHAT DO YOU THINK AS CHAIR CHAIR OF THE BLACK CAUCUS FOR A LONG TIME WHEN YOU THINK YOUR CAUCUS WOULD FALL ON A ON A RESOLUTION LIKE THAT, I THINK THERE'S SOME MEMBERS DO KEEPING A SANCTUARY CITY AND ON DO NOT SUPPORT KEEPING THE SANCTUARY CITY.

>> HOWEVER, I THINK THE ISSUE OF SANCTUARY IN COMPLACENT WITH THEM ARGUMENTS.

I TO SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT ISSUES OF THE CITY ITSELF ASKED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THOSE DECISIONS TO PUT APPROPRIATIONS TOWARD THAT SUPPORT.

AND AGAIN, THE MAJORITY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE DECIDED TO DO THAT ON 2 OCCASIONS.

SO I THINK PUTTING THOSE 2 ISSUES TO GO, I THINK MAYBE GIVING PEOPLE FALSE CHOICES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY WHAT THEY ARE ALSO REPORTED TO BE.

ALRIGHT, ALDERMAN DEAL.

I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH RESISTANCE AND EVERY COMMUNITY HERE WHERE THERE'S PROPOSALS FOR TEMPORARY SHELTER.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER IDEAS YOU HAVE FOR FOR TEMPORARY SHELTERS ARE OR WHERE PLACE THAT MIGHT NOT MEET RESISTANCE?

WELL, WHAT WE HAVE SO MANY EMPTY SCHOOLS WE HAVE COME TO CHURCH IS WE HAVE COMMUNITY BUILDING COMMUNITIES AND THE AROUND THOSE AREAS AND COME OUT AND SAY, BUT STILL, WE DON'T WANT BECAUSE THE I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS YOU'RE SEEING RESISTANCE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SAYING >> I CAN'T GET A NEW ROOF.

I CAN'T GET A FAR AS I CAN GET A HOT WATER HEATER NOT BEEN PAYING TAX MY ENTIRE LIFE.

>> I'M BEHIND ON MY RENT.

I'M BEHIND ON MY BILLS.

BUT YET WITH 31 MILLION UP ON OR MIGRANTS THAT HAVE NEVER PAID OUT THE TAXES AND THE PEOPLE HAVE ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN PAYING TAXES THEIR ENTIRE LIFE AND NOW THEY NEED TO HELP A LEG UP AND THEY CAN'T GET IT.

SO PEOPLE ARE FED UP FRUSTRATED THAT WE'RE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY ON PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR SOCIETY.

AND I THINK TO PARIS, THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING AS WELL WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE NOT SHOWING THAT WE'RE CREATING SO SHELTER SPACES THAT CAN BE PUT IN COMMUNITIES WHEN YOU HAVE.

WHEN YOU HAVE.

>> MIGRANT SHELTERS CURRENTLY WHERE YOU SEE THE DRUG WE SEE THE PROSTITUTION, WE SEE ALL THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF OUR SOCIETY.

THERE IS, WELL, IT'S HARD TO GET.

PEOPLE WANT TO OPEN THEIR DOORS AND GONNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT NOTE THAT THERE'S REPORTS NOW THAT A BIG, EMPTY LOT IN BRIGHTON PARTNERS NOT FAR FROM YOUR WORK.

THAT'S WHERE THE 10 CITIES ARE GOING TO GO.

DO WE KNOW THAT FOR SURE.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO GO THERE.

WE KNOW THAT THE CITY OF CHICAGO PUT OUT AN RFP TO THE PUBLIC WHERE APPLICATIONS WERE DUE ON OCTOBER 6 ASKING PRIVATE LANDOWNERS TO APPLY SO THAT THEIR PROPERTIES CAN BE USED.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE 38TH IN CALIFORNIA LOCATION HAS BEEN SELECTED.

CITY CREWS HAVE BEEN ON SITE CLEARING UP THE PLACE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CAN COME THERE AND WE'RE HEARING REPORTS OF ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1400 TO 3500 MIGRANTS MAY BE AT THAT LOCATION.

THAT LOCATION IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A KNOWN GANG HOTSPOT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BRYANT PARK COMMUNITY IS WELL AWARE OF THAT ALL BEEN TRYING TO MITIGATE DOWNWARD.

BUT IF YOU ARE NOT ADDRESSING SOME OF THE SOCIAL ISSUES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING IN.

YOU DROP 1500 PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO FROM BAD TO WORSE IN THE YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN THERE.

THAT INDEED DOES GO FORWARD.

ALDERMAN ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO THE BUDGET.

AND SPEAKING MIGRANTS ABOUT 150 MILLION DOLLARS PROPOSED BY THE TO DEAL WITH THIS.

EVEN THOUGH ITS COST ABOUT DOUBLE THAT SO FAR THIS YEAR.

IS THE CITY GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY TO?

>> TO PAY FOR THIS?

>> WELL, I THINK THE POSITION IS AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEED TO STEP UP AND HELP THE CITY OF CHICAGO IN PARTICULAR ENDEAVOR.

THIS IS NOT A CHICAGO PROBLEM.

THIS IS A FEDERAL ISSUE.

IT'S FEDERAL POLICY IS DRIVEN US TO THIS PARTICULAR POINT.

WELL, WE TO HELP HELPING OUR FELLOW INDIVIDUALS.

THIS IS SOLELY A CHICAGO PROBLEM.

SO I BELIEVE THIS IS THE MAYOR'S MARKER.

WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO, WHAT WE DO NEED SUPPORT FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR THE MORE I THINK THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE POINTS THE BILL RAISED ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE TOO.

I THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THAT BALANCE.

AND AGAIN, A LOOK AT PUSH FOR MORE RESOURCES FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AS WELL PARTICULAR BUDGET.

AND AGAIN, WITH A STARTING POINT, NOT AS DO BELIEVE THIS IS NOT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATIONS HERE AND OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS HIS BUDGET HEARINGS THAT TAKE PLACE.

I SAW YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD HERE ABOUT THE COST.

>> FOR MIGRANTS THAT'S IN THIS.

BUT I DISAGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE.

THIS IS OUR PROBLEM BECAUSE WE'RE THANKS WHERE CITY.

>> AND BY AS MANY THANKS FOR CITY, WERE CREATED THIS PROBLEM WHERE THEY'RE SENDING THE MIGRANTS TO CHICAGO BECAUSE OF WE HAVE THAT STATUS.

THEY'RE NOT TO REST OF THE STATE.

THEY'RE NOT SENDING THEM OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO.

THEY'RE NOT SEND HIM TO THE REST OF COOK COUNTY ORDER REST OF THE STATE.

SO THEY SENT HIM TO CHICAGO.

AND SO THAT'S A 150 MILLION IS NOT EVEN HALF OF WHAT IS BEING PROJECTED ARE BEEN TODAY.

AND SO WE'RE ONLY PASSED A STOP GAP BUDGET BY PUTTING 150 MILLION UP KNOWING IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE.

THE STATE HAS ALREADY WHEN I GO INTO GIVING HIM ANY MORE MONEY, DON'T COME DOWN HERE, KNOCKING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN AN ELECTION YEAR.

SO IT'S UNREALISTIC TO THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN BIDEN IS FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE BEING DISHONEST AND DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE PEOPLE BY NOT TELLING THEM THE TRUTH.

WE COULDN'T GET THE TRUTH OUT OF THE NUMBERS TODAY.

A BUDGET HEARING ABOUT HOW MUCH IS GOING TO WE COULDN'T GET THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW MANY POLICE VACANCIES WE WE COULDN'T GET THE TRUTH.

AND SO I THINK WE'VE DISHONEST DOING A DISSERVICE TO IS NOT BELIEVE.

WE'RE JUST MAKING THE MARKERS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT DOWN TOWARDS PARTICULAR EFFORT.

>> AND THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TO STEP UP.

THE STATE SAID NO SAYS SAID NO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE GOING INTO THE 2025 LIKE WHAT WE'LL SEE IF MAYBE THE STEPS UP THE PRESSURE ON THE STATE TO GET SOME RESOURCES ARE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DO WITH QUESTIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO DEBATE ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME