
Chicago City Council Renews Debate About ShotSpotter
Clip: 5/20/2024 | 9m 42sVideo has Closed Captions
Chicago City Council will again debate the merits of the ShotSpotter gunshot detection system.
The debate that has raged for months over whether ShotSpotter is an irreplaceable tool in the fight against gun violence on Chicago’s West and South sides or a waste of taxpayer funds that actually makes Black and Latino Chicagoans less safe is set to reach a crescendo Wednesday.
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Chicago City Council Renews Debate About ShotSpotter
Clip: 5/20/2024 | 9m 42sVideo has Closed Captions
The debate that has raged for months over whether ShotSpotter is an irreplaceable tool in the fight against gun violence on Chicago’s West and South sides or a waste of taxpayer funds that actually makes Black and Latino Chicagoans less safe is set to reach a crescendo Wednesday.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> A BATTLE IS BREWING IN CHICAGO CITY HALL OVER THE CONTROVERSIAL GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM KNOWN AS SHOTSPOTTER EARLIER THIS YEAR.
MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON DECIDED NOT TO RENEW THE CITY'S CONTRACT FOR THE TECHNOLOGY.
THAT CHOICE HAS BEEN SLAMMED BY SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SAY THE MAYOR OVERSTEPPED WHILE MANY STILL DEBATE THE VALUE OF THE SYSTEM, THEY'RE NOW CALLING FOR A VOTE ON A MEASURE THAT WOULD GIVE ALL PEOPLE THE POWER TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THEIR OWN WARDS.
JOINING US NOW WITH MORE ARE ALDERMAN DAVID MOORE OF THE 17TH WARD AND ALDERMAN BYRON LOPEZ OF THE 25TH WAR.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
ALDERMAN MORE.
LET'S START WITH YOU, PLEASE.
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE CALLING FOR HERE?
>> SO THIS ORDER CALLS FOR MORE DATA COLLECTION AND MORE THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE CURRENT SHOTSPOTTER CONTRACT.
IT ALSO CALLS ADMINISTRATION NOTIFIED THE CITY COUNCIL IN ADVANCE DECISIONS TO REMOVE ANY BALLOTS PREVENTION FINDING, SOUTH THINKING SHOTSPOTTER FROM A WAR AND ALSO HOLD A MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
PROUD ANY REMOVAL AND WITH THE FULL VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THAT IS WHAT THIS BOARD OR ITS CURRENT FORM.
>> AND TELL ME WHY YOU CARRY.
>> BECAUSE IT WAS THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE FUNDING FOR THE FIRST PLACE AS A TOOL WHICH WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITIES.
IT'S TO THAT.
NOT OUR RESIDENTS.
NO, THAT HELPING OUR COMMUNITY.
THE SUPERINTENDENT OVERWHELMINGLY TO PUT IN OFFICE TO THE ADMINISTRATION SELECTED WAS VERY WELL RESPECTED.
IS THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT THAT IS IN CHARGE OF KEEPING THIS CITY SAFE?
IS IT THAT HE SAYS HE NEEDS FOR THE DEPARTMENT?
AND SO THE 2 THAT I SINCERELY HOPE THIS ADMINISTRATION CONSIDERS KEEPING.
>> ALDERMAN SECURE THE MAYOR HAS SAID HE HAS NO PLANS ON REVERSING COURSE ON THIS.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON WHAT ALDERMAN MORE IS CALLING FOR?
>> WOULD THINK YOU'RE AND I SUPPORT MAYOR FROM FEELING HE'S COME BEEN COMMITMENT FOLLOWS AN INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT.
AT THE END OF THAT, THE DATA IS VERY CLEAR.
THEY EXPECTED GENERAL BACK IN 2021.
ACTUALLY DIDN'T DETAIL ANALYSYS WANT TO SHOW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THAT 80% OF PATIENTS RESPONDED TO CALLS THAT IT DID NOT CALL I'M GOING RELATED INCIDENT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT CLOUDED IN VIEWS THAT BE WARD.
THERE'S 33 MILLION DOLLARS BETTER THING.
AGAIN.
THE INSPECTOR GENERAL PRESIDENT HAS REPORTED A EASY TO DO, BUT NOT A GOOD USE OF DAUGHTERS.
I DO THINK THAT I AGREE WITH ALL THE MORE THAT MONEY IS.
IS BETTER ON TREATING VIOLENCE PREVENTION RIGHT NOW DPH HAS ABOUT HIS INTERVENTION OUR WORK ON THE BLOCK TO BLOCK BASES AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE OR ARE DISPATCHING OF THING THAT WHEN WE THOUGHT RECORD THAT HAS NOT FOR THE MANY, MANY CALLS THAT WE RECEIVED.
I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE THAT.
I ALREADY WAS I'M READY REACH OUT TO AS WELL AS SUPERINTENDENT TO DISCUSS BETTER WAYS TO DO THAT.
THAT IS PART OF MAKING THAT OUR FREEZE AS WE'RE STARTING TO REGARDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALLS ARE MEANT >> IN A DIFFERENT SYSTEMS LIKE 9, 8, WITH COUPLE'S ADDRESS ISSUE.
BUT GOING FROM WHERE THERE HAS SHOWN ABE POOR OUTCOMES ARE THINGS DOES NOT >> OTHER INSECURE LOPEZ ALDERMAN MORE HAS EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT GUN VIOLENCE COULD CLIMB WITHOUT THE SHOTSPOTTER TECHNOLOGY.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY?
>> WE'RE READING OF GOD A TRUCK POTTER FOR NUMBER OF YEARS AND A CAUSE OF 33 MILLION DOLLARS.
I DO THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF USING THOSE 33 MILLION DOLLARS ACTUALLY GOING TO THE BLOCK BY BLOCK LEVEL, UNDERSTANDING THE ROOT CAUSES OF VIOLENCE, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO AND AGAIN THAT OR 9-1-1, CAUSING A 98 CALLS ARE ACTUALLY BEING ON.
ELIZA, DO AGREE THAT WE DO HAVE AN DISPATCHING, BUT THAT IS RATTLING APPEARS TO BE OF SPECTER GENERAL REPORTER FOCUS BOARD LIGHT TRUCKS.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THE MAYOR IS LOOKING AT THE DATA.
I DO THINK THAT WE'RE GOING LATER.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES ARE DO NEED THAT.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE THAT WE'VE GOT WITH THE BUT FOLLOWING INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT, WE CLEARLY GOT TO DO MORE WORK AROUND THAT WOULD CAUSE ADDRESSING THE THAT WE HAVE EVER KNOWN, ESPECIALLY IN IN IN A REPORT AREAS WHERE WE SHOW ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH PLAN IS ABOUT SCHOOLS?
I DO THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR INVESTMENT FOR THE TO DO A BETTER JOB.
HOW WE HOLD OUR ACCOUNTABLE.
I DO THINK MAGIC STAR THEM SUBJECT MATTER EXPER YEAR IS NOT GOING TO SPENT FOR GENERAL AS WEEK ABOUT FROM REPORTS THAT INSPECTOR GENERAL TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WE DO HAVE THAT REMAINS IN THE WRECK AND 5 OF THE OF HIS APARTMENT.
I DO THINK IMPORTANT HOUSE WAS RELEASED INTO THOSE REPORTS.
BUT INSPECTORS GENERAL.
>> I WANT TO GET ALL THE MORE IN HERE ALL THE MORE.
WHAT ABOUT WHAT SOME OF ALDERMAN LOPEZ HAS HAS EXPRESS.
HOW DO YOU BALANCE THE NEED OTHER METHODS TO TO TO SOME OF THE ILLS IN OUR SOCIETY TO VIOLENCE.
BUT WITH ALSO THE NEED TO ENSURE THAT COMMUNITIES ARE SAFE AND NOT RIFE WITH GUN VIOLENCE.
>> YEAH.
FIRST OF SUSPECT, A GENEROUS SOMEBODY ACTUALLY RESPECT AND SUPPORT AND LIKE ANYBODY ACCOUNT AND IT CAN ANALYZE DATA THAT IS GIVEN TO ME FROM DATA IS GIVE TO ME THAT I'M ALIVE.
I'M GOING TO PUT OUT THE INFORMATION BASED ON THAT DATA.
AND SO WHAT WE PLAY NOW IS THAT PROPER, DANA, THIS SHOULD BE AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN THAT SHOULD BE REPORTED ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
CITY COUNCIL, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN REPORTED.
INSPECTOR GENERAL JUST USE THE INFORMATION THAT SHE COLLECTED BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT CPD COLLECTED WHICH WASN'T ALWAYS THE RIGHT TYPE OF DATA.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER 2, WHICH YOU CANNOT CAPTURE AND IS THAT WHEN SHOTS PART OF THE TECH SHOOTING NA PUT THEY POINT PUT PEOPLE AROUND NOT DETECTING IS THE NUMBER SHOTS THAT WERE THE NUMBER STUDENTS THAT WERE STOPPED.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.
IF SHOTSPOTTERS ELIMINATED, WE BRAGGING RIGHT NOW THAT SHOOTINGS ARE DOWN.
THAT'S BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE SHOTSPOTTER OF THE 2 LIKE SHOTSPOTTER.
THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF 2 WAS LIKE SHOTSPOTTER AND I GUARANTEE YOU REMOVE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE INCREASES.
TALK ABOUT SPENDING MONEY, A ROOT CAUSE.
EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT THE ROOT CAUSE ALREADY GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON HOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AND PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON THAT.
WE NEED MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALREADY KNOW THAT JUST PUT PEOPLE TO WORK.
AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I KNOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO, FIRST OF ALSO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
AND IF SOMETHING IS WORKING, IT'S WORKING IN THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT WHO'S VERY CLOSE TO IT WORKING WITH THIS TOO WELL SUPER 8.
THE SUPERINTENDENT SNELLING SUPPORT HIS POSITION ON KEEPING SHOTSPOTTER.
>> ALDERMAN SECURE LOPEZ.
WHAT CRIME FIGHTING TOOLS OR TECHNOLOGIES COULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE PLACE OF SHOTSPOTTER WHEN THAT WHEN THAT FINALLY DOESN'T.
>> WELL, I SURE THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE CAUSE, I MEAN, JUST OVER THE WE HAD I MEAN, COULDN'T WIN A ROBBERY IN AWARD.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS REPORTED OUT, BUT THAT ACTIVE NEVER ARRIVED TO COLLECT DATA COLLECT EVIDENCE FOR GOOD THAT WE GOT SHOES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I CAN ABILITY.
I DO THINK THAT DID.
THE CALLED FOR 9, 1, 1, 9, TO A COSTLY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALLS MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THOSE CALLS.
I DON'T THINK CORRECT.
WE WANT FOR TECHNOLOGY, BUT I DO THINK THAT WHEN WE COME OUT AND AGAIN, THE FACT THE PERCENTAGE THAT DISEASE THAT IS WHAT ACTUALLY IS ABYSMAL.
9% OF THE CALLS DOES NOT MERIT 33 MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT.
I DO THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR LOOK AT KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORK.
REROUTING AGAIN, LOT HAND-IN-HAND WITH INVESTMENT MENTAL AND TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER WOULD CAUSE ALL WHICH MAKING SURE THAT WE THAT, YOU THAT WE HAVE WITHOUT FOR FOR DECADES, WHICH IS THAT INVESTMENT.
HOWEVER, WHAT I WANT AND USE THAT THERE'S REPORTS NATIONAL REPORTS THAT GUY THAT KIND WORK DOES NOT DO MUCH HERE TO KIND OF.
>> EXCUSE ME.
THANK YOU.
WE'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE SECONDS LEFT.
ALL THAT AND MORE AT THE MEASURE IS PASSED ON WEDNESDAY.
THE WEDNESDAY THE MAYOR COULD STILL VETO IT.
WHAT THEN?
>> I'M PLEASED.
AND HE HE WILL BE THAN WHAT THE ASKED.
WHAT ONE THING IS ONE THING TO SAY, CAMPAIGN PROMISES.
THIS IS NOTHING TO LISTEN TO THE CONSTITUENTS DOING HERE.
IS THAT THIS TO THE CONSTITUENTS?
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING DAVID BOIES PUSHING FOR.
AND THIS IS THE VOICES OF MY COMMUNITY AND I HAVE TO REPRESENT THEIR VOICES.
>> ALL RIGHT.
BE KEEPING AN EYE ON ALL OF YOU WEDNESDAY.
THANKS TO ALL THE MEN, DAVID MOORE AND ALDERMAN BYRON LOPEZ FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IS GOOD TO SEE BRYANT.
>> UP NEXT, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SOUNDING THE ALARM, A REVOTE, FIREARM ID CARDS.
>> CHICAGO, TONIGHT'S COVERAGE OF PUBLIC SAFETY IS SUPPORTED
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