>> HEY THERE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US ON CHICAGO TONIGHT.

BLACK VOICES.

I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN ON THE SHOW TONIGHT.

EFFORTS TO REDEFINE CHICAGO'S DECADES-OLD COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES.

FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN HELP.

THE INCREDIBLE JOURNEY OF 17 YEAR-OLD DOROTHY JEAN TILLMAN, WHO HAS HER HAS EARNED HER BACHELOR'S MASTERS.

AND NOW THE DOCTORATE DEGREE.

>> THAT'S WHY WEST OF PULASKI, YOU IMMEDIATELY BUMP INTO STREETS LIKE KEYSTONE, CARLA AND TED, WHY SOME CHICAGO STREET NAMES ARE ALPHABETICALLY INCLINED.

THE LATEST IN OUR SERIES WTW NEWS EXPLAINS.

>> THE CANDLES AND THE FRAGRANCE IS REALLY THE BAIT TO GET YOU HERE.

>> AND MEET THE CHICAGO WOMAN WHOSE CANDLE MAKING CLASSES ARE BRINGING THE LIGHT.

ALL THAT COMING UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> CHICAGO TONIGHT, BLACK VOICES IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY 5TH 3005TH BANK AND BY THE SUPPORT OF THESE DONORS.

>> THERE WE BELIEVE WOULD DIVERSE VOICES ARE HEARD AND EMPOWERED COMMUNITIES ARE MADE STRONGER A FUTURE HOLDS GREAT PROMISE FOR ALL.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROUD TO SUPPORT CHICAGO.

TONIGHT.

BLACK VOICES TOGETHER.

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TOGETHER.

WE CAN DRIVE CHANGE.

>> WE ALL KNOW CHICAGO AS THE CITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT HOW EXACTLY ARE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS DEFINED AND TO THOSE BOUNDARIES LAST MAPPED OUT IN THE 1920'S STILL HOLD TRUE.

THAT'S WHAT A GROUP OF SCHOLARS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO IS VENTURING TO FIND OUT.

THEY'RE ASKING RESIDENTS TO WEIGH IN AND DRAW THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES THROUGH AN INTERACTIVE MAP.

SURVEY.

JOINING US NOW WITH MORE ON THIS.

OUR LYDIA WILDEN, A POSTDOCTORAL SCHOLAR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO WHO IS LEADING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MAPPING PROJECT AND CHICAGO HISTORIAN SHERMAN DYLAN THOMAS, THANK YOU.

THANKS TO YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

SHERMAN, WELCOME I'M LYDIA.

LET'S START WITH YOU, PLEASE.

HOW DID THE IDEA FOR THE SURVEY COME ABOUT?

>> SURE.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MYSELF.

DOCTOR EMILY TALENT AND DOCTOR CRYSTAL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO.

WE ARE 3 RESEARCHERS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND INSTITUTE AT THE UNIVERSITY.

INTERESTS ARE BRADLEY ABOUT HOW PEOPLE EXPERIENCE NEIGHBORHOODS, PEOPLE ATTACH MEANING TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORHOOD'S DO FOR INDIVIDUALS.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED THINKING ABOUT HOW TO PEOPLE IN CHICAGO ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE HAVE THE CHICAGO AREA MAP DEFINED IN THE 1920'S, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT REALLY DOESN'T MAP ONTO HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE THEIR COMMUNITIES.

BUT WE WANT TO ASK BECAUSE ELLEN'S, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE A NEIGHBORHOOD?

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF AS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES?

AROUND THE SAME TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THE NEW YORK TIMES LAUNCHED A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT.

SO WE THAT KEEP US THAN 9 SURE THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO TRY IN CHICAGO ITSELF.

THEY GOT ABOUT 37,000 RESPONSES FROM THEIR READERS.

SO WE'RE FEELING A LITTLE COMPETITIVE AND HOPING TO LEARN DIRECTLY FROM CHICAGO RESIDENTS, WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBOR DEFINITELY TAKE ON THE NEW YORK AS AS YOU MENTIONED, WE KNOW CHICAGO'S MADE UP OF 77 COMMUNITY BUT THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS.

>> WITHIN CHICAGO AND WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITY AREAS, HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE THE 2?

>> SURE.

SO THE 77 COMMUNITY AREAS ARE LARGE THERE.

I'M CHANGING THEY REALLY GLOSS OVER A LOT OF THE VARIATION THAT EXISTS WITHIN CHICAGO.

THERE IS THE 1978 COMMUNITY AS CITY NEIGHBORHOOD MAP THAT THE CITY.

EXPECTED IN THE 1990'S AND THAT RECOGNIZES ABOUT 280 NEIGHBORHOODS AND BELIEVE, BUT MISSING FROM MAP IS LIKE BROWNSVILLE, THAT INCLUDES NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE PILSEN THAT AREN'T COMMUNITY AREAS.

SOME OF RECORD PARK.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF VARIATION.

AND YET WE STILL THINK THERE MIGHT BE AREAS THAT I CAPTURED IN THOSE MAPS AND FACT THAT THE COMMUNITY AREAS DON'T CHANGE OVER TIME THAT THE LAST TIME THAT WE REALLY MAP CHICAGO NEIGHBORHOODS WAS BACK IN THE 1970'S SUGGESTS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A LOT OF NEW INSIGHTS INTO THE NATURE OF CHICAGO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT JUST ISN'T BEING CAPTURED.

>> TO LOOK AT HOW CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF CHICAGO'S CURRENT COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES MAP?

HOW DOES IT?

>> YES.

AND THE COMMUNITY AREAS MAP THAT DATES BACK TO THE 1920'S AND EARLY 1930'S DONE BY A UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO.

SOCIOLOGIST IS REALLY PLEASING TO HEAR THAT SOMETHING'S BEING DONE ABOUT OF BEATING NEIGHBORHOODS AND AND HOW COMMUNITIES FEEL ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THE BOUNDARIES OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITY AREA CAN SOMETIMES EVEN THE NAMES.

AND THEN I REALLY ROOTED IN THE BEST OF HISTORICAL SPACES, RIGHT?

SOMETIMES THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN 2 NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ACTUALLY FORMALLY BOUNDARIES OF RESTRICT THE RACE TO COME IS THAT BY DOESN'T SEE SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THIS.

I'M TAKE FIRST LOOK AT >> YOU JUST KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS.

BUT HOW WERE SOME OF THESE BOUNDARIES LAID OUT AT THE TIME?

>> SO IT ACTUALLY THEM FORMALLY IN CHICAGO.

WE HAD TERRIBLE THING.

CONGRESS STREET, THE RACIAL COVENANTS KNOWS THINK THE NUMBERS SAY 80% OF A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.

DEMOGRAPHICALLY FOLKS THAT THEY WILL NOT.

THESE 2 ARE AT THEIR HOUSES PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT OF UP TO SAYING PEOPLE WHO CHRISTIANS IN EUROPEAN DESCENT AND THEY WERE FORBIDDEN FROM LIVING IN THOSE AREAS AND INTO WALL THEM THAT BECAME THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES.

SO BASELINE WOULD MIND AND RESTRICT RACE COMES PLACE MY ARM DRESSING.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES FIND THEIR ORGANS BY >> OLIVIA, HAVE YOU.

YOU MENTION THE RESPONSE IS THAT THE NEW YORK TIMES RECEIVED?

HAVE YOU RECEIVED A LOT OF RESPONSES SO FAR?

>> THAT'S OUR SURVEY HAS BEEN UP FOR ABOUT A MONTH AND WE HAVE ABOUT 4,000 DIFFERENT MAPS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE DRAWN OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES.

SO, YOU KNOW, NOT QUITE 37,000 YET VOTE SO FAR.

OUTREACH EFFORTS HAVE REALLY REACH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS BY REACHING OUT TO ALL THEIR MEN'S OFFICE SAYS BY GETTING SOME MEDIA COVERAGE AND THEN ALSO THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH.

THAT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS FROM WHAT WE'VE COLLECTED SO FAR.

THE LIMITS OF SOME OF HER AT NETWORKS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DRAWN MAPS OF HYDE PARK, MANY FEUER OF WHAT LINE.

SO OUR EFFORTS RIGHT NOW ARE REALLY TO TRY TO CORRECT FOR THAT RESPONSE BIAS AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE CREATING A MAP OF CHICAGO, WE'RE CAPTURING ALL OF CHICAGO'S VOICES.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT I'M TRYING TO REACH THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT AT THE END OF THE WE CAN REALLY SAY THAT WE'VE AMPLIFY THE VOICES OF CHICAGO.

>> OBVIOUSLY, AS IT SOUNDS LIKE, BEN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU'VE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AND CERTAINLY FROM THOSE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU'RE NOT HEARING FROM JUST YET DILLARD, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW CHICAGO WOULDN'T BE CHICAGO WITHOUT ITS VERY NEIGHBORHOODS.

I I'M NOT ORIGINALLY FROM THE AREA, BUT I JOKE THAT CHICAGO SO BIG THAT EVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE DO YOU FIND THAT CHICAGOANS STILL CLOSELY IDENTIFY WITH THEIR COMMUNITY?

>> OH, YES, VERY MUCH.

ONE MY PART TO MAKE SURE I'M SURE OBAMA PLATFORM THE SURVEY.

WE'VE GOT TO YORK.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE SLEEP VERY BUT DID KNOW PEOPLE WHO ROLLS MORE TALKING THAT THEY SEEN BECAUSE IT IS.

AND WE DON'T OUR ROLES.

WHEN WE TALK ROSE LEE, PEOPLE FROM EAGLE, WOULD I DISCUSSED NOT REALLY FEELING SEEN AS WELL BECAUSE SOME OF THAT THIS INVESTMENT WILL YOU RUN INTO PEOPLE FROM CHICAGO TO WAYS WE IDENTIFY OTHER, IDENTIFIED GENDER BASED THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT WENT TO AN A STOP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE SOMEONE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THE TYPE CHICAGO AND THAT YOU IN PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY PROPER.

THAT'S HOW WE THE VIKINGS.

THEY DIVIDE.

THAT'S HOW WE FIGURE OUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY IF YOU'VE ABLE TO DO IF YOU FROM DOES YOU FROM THE SOUTH SIDE WEBSITE AND THEN WHAT YOU SAY, YES.

NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT.

FOLLOW FROM THE WEST SIDE.

ARE YOU FROM NORTH LAWN FROM GARFIELD PARK WHERE I'M PEOPLE VERY, VERY MUCH.

STILL TIED TO CHICAGO NEIGHBORS THAT THEY'RE FROM.

>> THERE WE GO CHICAGO.

A PRETTY PARTICULAR ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FROM CHICAGO CLAIMING THAT THEY YOU DO.

COMMUNITY TOURS ACROSS THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM FOLKS ABOUT THE WAY THEY THINK THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS?

>> YOU KNOW, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I'M GRACIE TAKE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE BILL SOMETIMES PEOPLE WORE ORGANIC, ORIGINAL 2 BILLS NOT NECESSARILY LOVING EXTRICATION THAT'S TAKING PLACE PRICE DOWN THERE MOVING TO THE WEST ENGLEWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHEN THE FAMILY WANTED PULLMAN, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY BEYOND PROUD BORN AND RAISED PULLMAN.

LOT OF THOSE HOMES, OUR OWN MARK FOR PULLMAN RESIDENTS.

I'M DOING NEIGHBORS LIKE PROM TO THE LIBYANS POINT THERE THAT THEY'RE NOT ON THE MAP, RIGHT?

GRAHAM WAS LIKE HOLE THROUGH MAINE.

WHAT WE CALL THIS SPACE REALLY IS BEEN BRONZE FOR POINT ABOUT 100 YEARS.

JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR YOU WERE IN.

PEOPLE ARE VERY PROUD.

IF I HAVE FOLKS ON THE BUS WE KNOW BRIDGEPORT FOLKS ARE FROM BRIDGEPORT AND THEY'RE EAGER POINT OUT THINGS THAT IS SO FALL IN LOVE NO MORE INSIDE TRACK ON THE STORY THAT I TOLD, KNOW, THOSE RESPONSIBLE ARE YOU?

>> ALL RIGHT, LYDIA, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT.

THERE'S A QUESTION THE SURVEY, IF YOU FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHY WAS IT IMPORTANT ALSO INCLUDE THAT QUESTION?

>> YES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AREAS OF CONSENSUS, BUT ALSO AREAS OF DIFFERENCE.

AND TERMS HOW PEOPLE SEE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE INTERESTED IN IS DO PEOPLE DO NEWCOMERS RACE IS LONGTIME RESIDENTS HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT FEELINGS OF BELONGING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS DIFFERENTLY.

SO IT'S PART OF CONCLUDED OKAY, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE AN INTERESTING PROJECT.

CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR FROM WHEN YOU GET THE GUN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD GOT NO RESPONSE IS THAT YOU NEED?

ABSOLUTELY LIBYA.

WILD INTERMINGLE.

THOMAS, THANK YOU BOTH.

>> FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU.

>> AND CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED OR WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A LINK TO THE SURVEY ON OUR WEBSITE.

UP NEXT, MEET A 17 YEAR-OLD WHO JUST EARNED HER DOCTORATE DEGREE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AFTER THIS.

>> MOST >> 17 YEAR-OLDS ARE ALL EXCITED ABOUT FINISHING HIGH SCHOOL AND MAY BE THINKING ABOUT COLLEGE.

BUT OUR NEXT GUEST IS IN A CLASS ALL BY HERSELF.

A TYPICAL TEEN IN SOME WAYS, 17 YEAR-OLD BRONZEVILLE RESIDENT DOROTHY JEAN TILLMAN ALSO HAPPENS TO HAVE JUST EARNED HER DOCTOR DEGREE AND NAME SOUNDS FAMILIAR.

THAT'S BECAUSE SHE IS THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF FORMER ALDERWOMAN DOROTHY TILLMAN.

JOINING US NOW IS DOCTOR DOROTHY.

JEAN TILMON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

AND CONGRATS YOUR DEGREE FOR HAVING CARRIERS.

RECENTLY SUCCESSFULLY, OF COURSE, DEFENDED YOUR YOU NOW, AS WE MENTIONED, HOLD A DOCTORATE AND INTEGRATED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

SOME VERY COMPLICATED SHED.

SOME LIGHT ON WHAT YOUR RESEARCH FOCUSED YES.

SO MY RESEARCH INTERVIEW TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FOCUSED ON IT OUTREACH, DECREASED STIGMA.

BASICALLY IT COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON WELL, THINKING ABOUT THEIR OWN AND OTHER PEOPLE'S AND POSSIBLY EVER GETTING HELP FOR IT.

>> WOULD DECREASE AND THEN FEELING LIKE MENTAL HEALTH MAY MAKE YOU CRAZY OR GETTING HELP AND MAKE YOU CRAZY THINGS ALONG THOSE WHAT HE WENT TO 3RD DEGREE.

I WANT TO CONTINUE.

THE WORK ALREADY DOING BUT ALSO TO INTEGRATE THOSE 2 THINGS AND KIND OF INTRODUCE OTHER YOUTH TO INTEGRATED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BECAUSE A LOT PEOPLE IN MY GENERATION ARE INTERESTED HOPE AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND SO I THINK THAT CONTINUING TO WORK WITH FACILITIES TOO, MAYBE DO OUTREACH THAT CAN DECREASE STIGMA ANY WAY WOULD BE WHAT I WANT TO DO.

SO LET'S BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

YOU WERE HOME SCHOOLED, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING FORMS OF EDUCATION IN THE U.S. >> TELL US HOW THAT WORKS FOR YOU AND HOW YOU THINK IT CONTRIBUTED TO YOUR ACADEMIC SUCCESS SO ME AND MY MOM IS UP EVERY DAY AS EARLY AS WHATEVER STARBUCKS WILL GO TO THE STUDY ROOM APARTMENT WOULD WAKE UP AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.

GET AS MANY COURSES OUT THE WAY AS POSSIBLE.

AND THAT MOMENT AND THEN WE DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN THE NEXT DAY.

I THINK HAVING THAT CONTROL OF MY SCHEDULE IS PROBABLY WHAT MADE THE HOMESCHOOL LIKE THIS FOR ME, I WOULD IMAGINE IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GIFTED OR ACCELERATED LERNER AND BEING TAUGHT ON YOUR OWN BY YOUR MOM THAN THAT, YOU CAN PROBABLY >> MOVE ALONG IN YOUR COURSEWORK MUCH FASTER AS WELL.

YES, HAVING YOUR OWN LIKE CHOICE TO JUST GO WITH WHATEVER PIECE YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> DEFINITELY GAVE ME A LOT MORE CONTROL AND AT THE MENIE EDUCATION.

WANT SO THEN.

>> YOU'RE TAKING COLLEGE CLASSES, THOUGH, BY AGE 10.

SO HOW DID YOU GO FROM, YOU KNOW, HOME-SCHOOLING HOMESCHOOL CURRICULUM, OF COURSE, FOR A 10 YEAR-OLD.

SO TAKING COLLEGE WELL, MY HOME SCHOOL WHEN I WAS ON LINE FOR REGULAR CURRICULUM WAS MY HIGH SCHOOL ONLINE PROGRAM.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I KIND OF DID ONLINE AFTER FINISHING UP MY HOURS FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL SO CAN MOVE ON TO THAT.

I I DID THAT AND WE MOVED ON TO THE ASSOCIATES PROGRAMS.

THOSE KIND OF A MOM'S GOAL TO MOVE INTO THE COLLEGE PROGRAM IN BUT LIKE LEARNING KIND OF TOOK ON A DIFFERENT FORM, THEN.

>> AT WHAT POINT DID SHE REALIZE?

YOU KNOW, MY KID IS KIDS A LITTLE BIT AND WE NEED TO UPGRADE TO SOME COLLEGE LEVEL CLASSES AND START EARNING DEGREES.

LOOKS WHAT GOING FLIP THAT SWITCH SOME POINT?

WELL, I THINK THAT AFTER MY GIFTED KIDS SCHOOL THAT I WAS GOING TO KIND OF REABSORBED INTO ANOTHER SCHOOL AND I WASN'T ENJOYING EDUCATION BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE.

I COULDN'T LEARN LIKE AS MANY THINGS AS I WANTED TO LIKE.

THEY WEREN'T GIVING NEED TO WORK IN A WAY THAT I COULD LIKE ABSORB IT AS WELL.

SHE KIND OF WAS LIKE I WE'VE GOT TO TAKE YOU OUT DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

OKAY.

MOMS IDEA WITH FAKE MOM FOR THAT OF COURSE, THEN BY 12 YOU HAD A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN 14.

YOU HAD YOUR AND SO I'M GUESSING THAT WAS THE SAME PROCESS KIND OF APPLIED THROUGHOUT.

JUST KEEP IT GOING.

YES, IT WAS THE ONLINE PROCESS IS KIND OF OFF THROUGHOUT.

IT MAY BE WAS DIFFERENT BASED ON A PROGRAM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I DID DO A BIT MORE IN-PERSON PROCTOR ING WHEN I WAS GETTING MY SO AND THAT'S SCREEN THAT MY MASTER'S MY PH D. >> BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT WAS KIND OF THE SAME FORM.

>> YOU'RE ALSO AN ENTREPRENEUR.

TELL US ABOUT DOROTHY GENIUS STEAM LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE.

YES.

SO THE DORKY GENIUS TEAM LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE IS A LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE THAT IS HELPING YOU FIND A PATHWAY TO THEIR DREAMS THROUGH STEAM.

AND SO WHETHER THAT MAY ARTS OR TECHNOLOGY OR ENGINEERING, WE'RE HELPING THEM FIND A PATHWAY THROUGH THAT UMBRELLA OF STATE BECAUSE EVERYTHING FALLS UNDER THAT UMBRELLA SOMEHOW AND WE SHOULD CLARIFY STEAM.

A LOT OF FOLKS ARE FAMILIAR WITH STEM BUT STEAM IS STEM, INCLUDING THE ARTS.

KNOWLEDGE.

ENGINEERING ARTS AND SO A LOT OF LONGTIME CHICAGO TONIGHT VIEWERS, THEY WILL KNOW YOUR GRANDMOTHER.

OF DOROTHY TILLMAN, FORMER ALDERWOMAN FOR WHOM YOU ARE HOW WOULD YOU SAY SHE SHAPED OR INSPIRED WHAT YOU DO TODAY?

I THINK THAT WAKING UP.

>> SO MANY MORNINGS IN GOING DOWNSTAIRS TO SEE MY GREAT LIKE TALKING AT THE KITCHEN TABLE.

WHETHER TOMORROW, MOM OR TV ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WHETHER IT WAS TO ME TEACHING ME SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT LESSON.

I THINK EVERY DAY IT WAS SOMETHING I HAD A TRAILBLAZER LIKE THAT IN MY HOME IN THE KNOWLEDGE HAS NOT STOPPED COMING.

>> OF SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF INCREDIBLE ACCOMPLISHMENTS BEHIND YOU STILL DO SOME TYPICAL TEEN STUFF.

DEFINITELY WOULD SAY I DO.

I'M I'M IN A STRUGGLE AGAINST GROUP THE HAPPINESS AND SO GETTING TO BE WITH MY PEERS.

THEY'RE DEFINITELY KEEPS ME LIKE.

>> IN MY REGULAR, LIKE TEEN MINDSET, GETTING THE HANG OUT WITH ALL OF MY INCHES, GO OUT AND DO THE SAME THINGS THAT PEOPLE PEERS DO BECAUSE I'M HANGING OUT WITH THEM DEFINITELY LIKE SOMETHING.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK I BUT IS LIKE EVERY DAY, RIGHT?

DOING SOME TIK TOKS.

YEAH.

DOING TAKE GOING TO THE MALL LIKE HANGING OUT MY BEING CHAIR LIKE ON THE ROOM THAT THE HOUSE EVERYBODY WANTS COME OVER ON D LIGHTS.

UNLIKE BUT EXPIRE, PROJECTORS.

AND SO IT'S LIKE PAYING ON A POINT, OF COURSE, LIKE LIKE A NORMAL 17 YEAR-OLD.

SO.

>> AT THE SAME TIME, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS MIGHT SEE ALL OF YOUR ACADEMIC SUCCESS, PARTICULARLY AT A YOUNG AGE AS PRETTY INTIMIDATING.

HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT AND WHAT DO YOU WANT FOLKS TO KNOW ABOUT YOU?

I THINK MAKING IT CLEAR THAT I'M VERY MUCH SO A REAL PERSON UPS AND DOWNS COMING DOWN WITH SOMETHING LIKE TODAY LIKE.

>> IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY MAKING SURE THAT A LOT OF PARENTS KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF I WOULD WANT SHARE MY STORY AND THE LIKE, HEY, LOOK THIS KID IS DOING DO THIS.

IT WOULD I WANT SHARE MY STORY AND THE LIKE, IS THERE ANYTHING I COULD BE DOING AS A PARENT TO SUPPORT YOU MORE TO HELP YOU MORE AS WE CAN BE A BETTER TEAM.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING MY MOM THERE HAVING THAT SUPPORT IS WHAT MADE IT LIKE YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU?

I THINK WHAT'S NEXT FOR ME IS, OF COURSE, CONTINUING MY STEAM CAMP IN CONTINUING TO GROW THAT IN THE QUALITY OF IT AND POSSIBLY FRANCHISE IT ONE DAY DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOUTH IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND IN 12 SPACES ABOUT JUST INCREASING THEIR OWN SEGMENT BECAUSE IT IS NORMAL FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE LIKE THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE HAPPY WHEN YEARS HAD WHEN YOU'RE ANGRY, ALL OF IT IS YOUR MENTAL HEALTH.

AND SO I JUST THINK THAT NEXT FOR ME IS DEFINITELY TRAVELING.

LEARNING MORE ABOUT MYSELF, BUT CONTINUING ON MY WAS SHIPPED, RAINY AND INTEGRATING THAT WITH MY DEGREE LAFER GAP YEAR.

BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY TAKE SOME TIME OFF RIGHT AFTER ALL OF IT.

IT'S DEFINITELY A MONTH OR DEFINITELY A MONTH GET MONTH AS THEY CALL IT.

>> CONGRATULATIONS DOROTHY.

JEAN TILLMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

BEST OF LUCK TO OF COURSE.

>> UP NEXT, THE ABC'S OF CHICAGO'S STREET NAMES.

WE EXPLAIN RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> WHEN YOU THINK OF LEARNING ABOUT THE ALPHABET ON WTW, YOU PROBABLY THINK OF SESAME STREET, BUT THE ABC'S AREN'T JUST THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF WORDS.

THEY'RE ALSO LITERAL BLOCKS THAT MAKE UP PART OF CHICAGO'S STREET GRID SPOTTING THE NICKNAME OF A SECTION OF NORTH LAWNDALE AS PART OF OUR SERIES WTW NEWS EXPLAINS.

NICK BLOOMBERG HAS A LESSON ON HOW SOME OF CHICAGO'S STREETS GOT THEIR ALLITERATIVE NAMES.

>> WHAT'S IN A NAME LIKE MOST MAJOR CITIES.

MANY OF CHICAGO'S STREETS ARE NAMED TO HONOR IMPORTANT PEOPLE.

YOU'VE GOT THE CLUSTER OF PRESIDENTS DOWNTOWN LAKE MONROE, MADISON IN WASHINGTON, FORMER MAYORS LIKE OGDEN EARLY DEVELOPERS LIKE JOHN CAN SEE AND PATRICK TOOMEY AND IN 2021 CHICAGO CHANGE THE NAME OF ONE OF ITS MOST FAMOUS AFFAIRS, OUTER LAKESHORE DRIVE TO HONOR JEAN BAPTISTE POINT DU SABLE.

THE FIRST NON-INDIGENOUS SETTLER OF OUR FAIR CITY.

BUT AS YOU TRAVEL, ALWAYS WEST FROM THE LAKE, IT'S HARD NOT TO NOTICE CLUSTERS OF NORTH-SOUTH STREETS.

THAT ALL STARTS WITH THE SAME LETTERS K L M WHAT GIVES BACK IN 1913, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CHICAGO BUREAU OF MAPS WERE COOKING UP A PLAN REVAMP THE CITY'S STREET NAMES BECAUSE CHICAGO GROUP PIECEMEAL BY AND AXING SURROUNDING TOWNSHIPS.

IT WAS ALL A MISHMASH OF MISMATCH, NOMENCLATURE AND QUITE A FEW DISORIENTING DUPLICATE JOHN RILEY, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE CITY'S MAP EURO, WANTED TO MAKE THINGS WAY, WAY MORE SIMPLE, LIKE ABC'S SIMPLE STARTING AT THE INDIANA STATE LINE, ALL NORTH SOUTH STREETS WHERE TO START WITH THE AT THE ONE MILE MARK BAIT.

SWITCH TO AT THE 2 MILE MARK.

THEY GO TO SEE AND SO EXCEPT MANY NORTH SOUTH STREETS IN THE EAST, EARN AND OLDEST PORTION OF THE CITY ALREADY HAD WELL ESTABLISHED AND RECOGNIZED NAMES.

SO THE PROPOSAL ONLY GOT PARTIAL APPROVAL FOR STREETS.

FARTHER WEST.

>> THAT'S WHY WEST OF PULASKI, YOU IMMEDIATELY BUMP INTO STREETS LIKE KEYSTONE CAR LOT HEAD AND THAT'S WHY PART OF NORTH LAWNDALE IS NICKNAMED KATE >> BUT IT DOESN'T STOP CHICAGO STRETCHES SO FAR WEST, YOU CAN FIND STREETS LIKE OCTAVIA OSCEOLA AND OZARK AND HOPE THAT SO NEXT TIME YOU'RE PASSING BY THESE OUT OF BLOCKS, YOU'LL KNOW IT WASN'T JUST A SESAME STREET SENSIBILITY, BUT AN EFFORT BY CITY LEADERS OF YOUR TO MAKE YOUR LIFE A LITTLE EASIER AS EASY AS ABC KLM.

>> FOR MORE ON OR IN THE AWARD-WINNING WTW NEWS EXPLAINS SERIES INCLUDING WHY YOU CAN'T BUY A CAR ON SUNDAYS AND HOW CHICAGO'S GRID SYSTEM WORKS.

YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE THAT THE W T TW DOT COM SLASH EXPLAINS.

UP NEXT, A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER CREATING CANDLES AND CONNECTIONS.

WE INTRODUCE YOU TO HER RIGHT AFTER THIS.

THE COVID PANDEMIC DISRUPTED EVERY FACET OF OUR LIVES AND EVEN LEFT.

SOME OF US FEELING DISCONNECTED FROM THE PEOPLE WE CARE ABOUT.

MOST.

THE PANDEMIC ALSO CHANGE CHICAGO DEMERS IRAN.

OBAMAS BUSINESS PLANS.

BUT IT SPARKED A NEW IDEA AT HER STUDIO.

SHE'S USING CANDLE CLASSES TO HELP COUPLES CREATE DEEPER CONNECTIONS.

ERICA GUNDERSON RECENTLY SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS LOVE STORY IS ANOTHER LOOK.

>> I'M A LOVER OF LOVE.

I BELIEVE IN LOVE.

WELCOME TO OUR 7 O'CLOCK COUPLES MAKING CLASS.

>> SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE IN A COZY NORTH PARK STUDIO FOR COUPLES ARE LEARNING HOW TO MAKE CUSTOM SCENTED CANDLES OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK THEY'RE THERE FOR.

>> YOU CAN TELL.

CANDLES AND THE FRAGRANCE IS REALLY THE BAIT TO GET YOU HERE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S REALLY ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

BUT MY FRIEND PROBABLY YOU IN HER DREAMS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO CALL YOU PUMPKIN.

HAHA.

WE ALWAYS SAY MAKE CANDLES, MAKE MAGIC.

WHEN I SEE THE MAGIC HAPPENED IN THE STUDIO.

THAT'S WHAT GIVES ME ENERGY TO KEEP GOING.

THIS ROMANTIC BAIT AND SWITCH IS THE BRAINCHILD GM OR ME ABOUT 100 OF ABOVE AVERAGE CANDLE STUDIO.

I'M A LIFELONG CHICAGO.

AND I GREW UP ON THE WEST HAVE TO SAY THAT WELFARE BY FROM THE WEST SIDE WILL COME LET YOU KNOW.

AND I TOGETHER FAMILY.

THINK THAT IS A VERY HAVE THAT YOU ARE THE SUNSHINE OF.

>> THEIR LIVES.

I REALLY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BRING PEOPLE CLOSER TOGETHER.

ORIGINALLY ME ABOUT A PLAN TO OPEN A DOGGY DAYCARE IN THE GARDEN LEVEL SPACE.

BUT THAT IDEA WAS QUICKLY SNUFFED OUT.

>> ONCE WE GOT OUR CITY, LICENSE FOR THE CITY.

IT WAS MARCH OF 2020 OF COURSE, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED SO SHE PIVOTED TO TEACHING THEMED CANDLE WORKSHOPS FOR FRIENDS, FAMILY AND COUPLES AS A CRAFTY ACTIVITY.

INITIALLY, I I'LL GIVE THEM SOME ACTIVITIES TO DO IN BETWEEN THE SCIENCE OF MAKING THE CAN DO.

IT WILL BE FUN TO LAUGH AND THAT WILL BE IT.

BUT MURRAY'S EAR AND THE ABOUT US AS AS SHE SAW, HOW INTIMATE CREATING CANDLES TOGETHER COULD BE.

SHE SHAPED A WORKSHOP THAT LIGHTS THE FLAME OF DEEPER CONNECTION.

MY PASSION IS DEFINITELY ABOUT THAT.

ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

WHAT'S BEEN SO GREAT ABOUT THE LAST 11 YEARS WITH THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

WHAT ARE SOME OF ATTRIBUTES THAT YOU ADMIRE ABOUT HER?

BUT YOU REALLY LIKE ABOUT AND SHE SAYS IT'S AN APPROACH THAT HAS HER FEELING THE LOVE TO PEOPLE SAY IT'S THE BEST DATE NIGHT THEY EVER HAD.

I NEVER KNEW MY WIFE FELT THAT WAY ABOUT THEN I REALIZE THAT IT'S >> IT REALLY IS WAY MORE THAN JUST MAKING >> AND THAT RIGHT THERE MAKES ME SAY YEAH, YOU'VE GOT DO WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT 11 WORLD.

WE NEED IT.

WE NEED >> FOR CHICAGO TONIGHT, BLACK VOICES.

THIS IS ERICA GUNDERSON.

KNOW, AND SINCE THIS STORY ORIGINALLY AIRED ABOVE AVERAGE HAS OPENED A SECOND LOCATION IN IRVING PARK.

THERE'S MORE DETAILS ON THOSE CLASSES ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR TONIGHT.

FOR ALL OF US HERE AT CHICAGO TONIGHT, BLACK VOICES.

I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

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