>> [MUSIC] CHICAGO TONIGHT: BLACK VOICES IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY FIFTH THIRD BANK AND BY THE SUPPORT OF THESE DONORS.

[MUSIC] >> Brandis: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO CHICAGO TONIGHT: BLACK VOICES.

I AM BRANDIS FRIEDMAN.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING PART OF YOUR WEEKEND WITH US.

ON THE SHOW TONIGHT A NEW ARCHIVE RECORDING THE EXPERIENCES OF POLICE TORTURE SURVIVORS WENT ONLINE THIS MONTH HERE WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE HELPING THOSE SURVIVORS HEAL.

>>> REMEMBERING FORMER CHICAGO PUBLIC TEACHER UNION REPRESENTATIVE KAREN LEWIS WHO DIED AT AGE 57.

ALSO IN OUR BOOK SERIES "WHITE FRIGHT".

>>> GEORGE KIRBY MAKE THEM LAUGH IN A THROWBACK CLIP OF WTTW OUR PEOPLE.

[SINGING] >>> A NEW MUDDY WATERS MUSEUM IS HEADED TO NORTH KENWOOD.

OUR ANGEL IDOWU TAKES US TO THE SCENE.

>>> NEW TONIGHT AN ONLINE ARCHIVE DOCUMENTS A STORY OF POLICE TORTURE SURVIVORS WAS LAUNCHED BY THE JOURNAL OF THE NONPROFIT THE INVISIBLE INSTITUTE.

THE POLICE TORTURE JUSTICE CENTER ARCHIVES THE INCIDENCES INFLICTED BY JON BURGE AND HIS GROUP OF OFFICERS KNOWN AS THE MIDNIGHT CREW WHO REPORTEDLY TORTURED SUSPECTS TO COURSE DISCUSSIONS.AMONG THE TERMS OF THE REPARATION PACKAGE WAS WHAT BECAME THE CHICAGO TORTURE JUSTICE CENTER IN INGLEWOOD HAD THE CENTER OFFERS SERVICES FOR SURVIVOR SOURCE WHO ADDRESSED THE TRAUMA OF POLICE VIOLENCE.

SURVIVOR, MARK CLEMENTS WHOSE STORIES WERE IN THE ARCHIVES.

HE WAS TOLD TO CONFESS TO A CRIME IN 1981 WHEN HE WAS JUST 16 YEARS OLD.

MARK CLEMENTS WAS INCARCERATED FOR 28 YEARS BEFORE HIS CONVICTION WAS OVERTURNED IN 2009.TODAY MARK CLEMENTS IS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER WITH THE POLICE TORTURE JUSTICE CENTER AND HE JOINS US TONIGHT.

ALSO JOINING US IS AISLINN PULLEY COEXECUTIVE OF THE POLICE TORTURE JUSTICE CENTER.

WHO ALSO FOUNDED THE CHICAGO CHAPTER OF BLACK LIVES MATTER.

WELCOME YOU BOTH TO CHICAGO TONIGHT: BLACK VOICES.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

MARK CLEMENTS WILL START WITH YOU.

SINCE YOUR EXONERATION A DECADE AGO EVEN DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE SOCIAL JUSTICE REALM.

TELL US ABOUT THAT WORK AND WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO YOU.

>> Guest: BEING A 16-YEAR-OLD KID BEING TAKEN DOWN TO A POLICE STATION AND BEING TORTURED AND NO ONE BELIEVING OF WHAT TOOK PLACE INSIDE OF THE POLICE STATION, I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE TO NOT JUST TAKE THE PAIN BUT TO AT LEAST PUT YOURSELF INTO THE POSITION TO DISH THE PAIN OUT.

TWO FORM REFORMS WE HAVE A BROKEN SYSTEM OF JUSTICE AND THAT HAS WORKED TO DEMONIZE.

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.

I WAS AFFECTED AS A RESULT OF TRAUMA, SPENDING ALL OF MY YOUTH BEHIND PRISON WALLS.

I JUST WANT SOMEONE, THE CITY OF CHICAGO, ALL OF OUR LEADERS, TO UNDERSTAND, FIRST OF ALL THAT I AM SOMEONE'S SON THAT THIS HAPPENED TO AND THAT PERSON DIED FIGHTING TO FREE ME AND I WILL KEEP HER VOICE ALIVE THROUGH ME FOR ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE WORKED SYSTEMATICALLY TORTURING UNDER JOHN BURNS.

>> Brandis: I WANT TO GET AILSINN IN.

THE POLICE TORTURE JUSTICE CENTER HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR YEARS.

HOW IS THE CENTER EVOLVED OVER TIME?

>> Guest: WE OPENED OUR DOORS MAY 17, 2017.

THIS YEAR WILL BE OUR FOURTH BIRTHDAY.

WE HAVE PROVIDED SERVICES TO ANYONE DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY IMPACTED BY POLICE VIOLENCE.

THAT MEANS, OF COURSE, OUR SERVICES ARE FREE TO TORTURE SURVIVORS AND ALSO FREE TO FAMILIES WHOSE LOVED ONES HAVE BEEN KILLED BY POLICE OR INDIVIDUALS THEY THEMSELVES HAVE EXPERIENCED VIOLENCE AT THE HANDS OF POLICE OR HAVE EXPERIENCED VIOLENCE.

WE INCORPORATE A IMMUNITY COUNSELING MODEL WHICH MEANS WE UNDERSTAND THE MULTIFACETED WAYS IN WHICH STATE VIOLENCE IN PARTICULAR, POLICE VIOLENCE CAN BECOME A VERY ISOLATING REALITY FOR FOLKS.

THAT MEANS OUR CLINICIANS, THEY SEE PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE, OF COURSE.

BUT ALSO THEY GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND GO INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND THIS WAS PRE-PANDEMIC.

WE HAVE MADE ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE OF THAT.

WE REALIZE THAT THE NORMAL FUNCTIONING OF THE TYPICAL COUNSELING OFFICE IS NOT SUFFICIENT.

WE HAVE AMENDED OUR PRACTICES IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE REALITY THAT MANY SURVIVORS EXPERIENCE LIKE AGOURA PHOBIA AND ISOLATION THAT TENDS TO LEAD TO PTSD.

>> WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE STORIES OF THE SURVIVORS ARCHIVE THE WAY THE INSTITUTE HAS DONE?

>> Guest: BECAUSE IT HELPS TO WRITE HISTORY.

SOME OF WHAT WE SEE OVER THE COURSE OF THE DECADE LONG FIGHT TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH IS THAT THESE STORIES WERE ORIGINALLY DENIED AND REPRESSED FROM SEEING ANY LIGHT OF DAY.

IT TOOK DECADES OF SURVIVORS REFUSING TO REMAIN SILENT.

TO CONTINUE TO TELL THEIR STORIES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THAT CONTINUES.

THERE IS A BIG CHANCE THAT AS WE LOOK TO RECENT EPISODES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE REVISIONS HAPPEN AROUND HISTORY.

ANOTHER ASPECT IS THAT TORTURE CONTINUES.

THIS HASN'T ENDED.

THIS IS NOT JUST A DARK TIME IN CHICAGO'S HISTORY, IT DIDN'T JUST END.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ALLOW THE SURVIVORS VOICE TO TELL WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM AND MAKE ROOM FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO REALIZE I, TOO, EXPERIENCE THESE THINGS.

I, TOO, AM A SURVIVOR.IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE FULL BREADTH OF THE SITUATION OF STATE VIOLENCE THAT WE ARE LIVING IN IN ORDER TO TRULY CREATE THE REMEDY TO RESOLVE IT.

THAT MEANS CLOSING THE SQUARE THAT EXISTS ON THE WEST SIDE.

THAT MEANS FIRING AND ADDRESSING THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF OTHER COPS WHO TORTURE LIKE BOUDREAU WHO MOST PEOPLE IN CHICAGO SHOULD KNOW THAT NAME.

HALLORAN O'BRIEN AS WELL AS WATTS.

>> I WANT TO GET INTO, WHEN THE POLICE TORTURE JUSTICE CENTER OPENED I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW SOMEONE ON YOUR STAFF, AND OTHER TORTURE SURVIVOR, DERRELL CANNON.

HERE'S THAT INTERVIEW ATTHAT TIME .

>> DID NOT YOU ONLY TORTURE ME, PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY BUT YOU PUT ME IN PRISON WRONGFULLY AND I LOST EVERYONE WHILE I WAS IN PRISON.

MY MOTHER, MY FATHER, MY SON I DON'T HAVE PAIN.

I'M MAD.

SO MAD THAT I GET EMOTIONAL AND THAT IS THE TRAUMA.

>> Brandis: MARK CLEMENTS, YOU, TOO, SPENT HALF OF YOUR LIFE IN PRISON FOR A CRIME THAT YOU ARE LATER EXONERATED FOR LIKE DERRELL CANNON.

THERE IS A UNIQUE, PASSIVE PHYSICAL THAT HAPPENED SO MANY YEARS AGO.

WHY DO YOU THINK AND WE HAVE SHOWN EARLIER WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE SPECIALIZED SERVICES NECESSARY FOR SURVIVORS LIKE YOURSELF?

>> Guest: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT HAS NEGLECTED MENTAL HEALTH.

WE ARE A SOCIETY OF PEOPLE THAT FAIL TO REALIZE THAT NOT ONLY DID CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT MEASURE OUT IT'S ACTS OF TRAUMA UPON MANY PEOPLE, BUT ALSO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

AND OUR PRISON SYSTEM WHICH IS VERY BARBARIC.

WHAT WE HAVE WITNESSED IS THIS HAS BEEN IGNORED WHERE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE PRISON SYSTEM REGARDLESS IF THEY ARE INNOCENT OR GUILTY AND THEY ARE TRAUMATIZED.

THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO AND IT IS A VERY SAD DAY IN THE SOCIETY AND I BELIEVE THAT IS WHY WE HAVE FOUGHT SO HARD TO ADD LEAST ESTABLISH THE CHICAGO POLICE TORTURE JUSTICE CENTER AS WELL AS THE ARCHIVES SO PEOPLE CAN BEGIN TO SEE WITH THEIR OWN TWO EYES AS TO THE STRUGGLES OF MANY LITTLE OLD MOTHERS WHO HAD TO ADD LEAST INDOOR THIS LIKE AMANDA SHACKLEFORD, THE MOTHER OF GERALD LEE, CONSTANTLY HAVING TO DEAL WITH A CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT WANT TO RECOGNIZE TRUTH.

>> Brandis: MARK, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR STORY WITH US AND AISLINN PULLEY AS WELL.

THANK YOU BOTH.

>> Guest: THANK YOU.

>> Guest: THANK YOU.

>> Brandis: THIS WEEK CHICAGO'S EDUCATION AND LABOR MOVEMENT SAID GOODBYE TO A PIVOTAL FIGURE, KAREN LEWIS.

SHE LED THE CHICAGO UNION FOR 8 YEARS.

SHE LED A STRIKE AND A NEAR RUN FOR MAYOR.

A DEADLY FORM OF BRAIN CANCER WOULD SIDELINE HER ALTHOUGH SHE WOULD CONTINUE TO RUN FOR THE PRESIDENT OF PTU UNTIL HER RETIREMENT IN 2013.HERE IS HOW A FEW WHO KNEW HER REMEMBER HER.

>> KAREN WAS A DEAL.

WE RESOLVE SOME DIFFICULT ISSUES.

SHE BRINGS, NOT JUST CONTRACT LABOR RELATION ISSUES TO THE CHICAGO TEACHER CONTRACT, IT IS AN ENORMOUSLY COMPLEX DOCUMENT.

SHE ALSO BRINGS THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT GOES ON IN A CLASSROOM.

SHE IS ABLE TO INTERPRET THAT IN SUCH A WAY AS A MEANINGFUL WAY WHEN YOU ARE NEGOTIATING LABOR.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL THAT OFTEN.

>> SHE WAS FEARLESS.

ABSOLUTELY.

I RECALL WHEN I ASKED HER, HOW IS IT THAT SHE CAN CONJURE UP SUCH COURAGE SHE OFFERED A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER.

IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BOB.

THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND, IF YOU CAN'T DO THE RIGHT THINGS THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR TIME?

>> WHAT I ALWAYS APPRECIATED ABOUT THE STANZA SHE TOOK IS IT ALWAYS WENT BACK TO CHILDREN AND EDUCATION.

SHE CARES ABOUT CHILDREN AND THE ADULTS THAT WORK ON BEHALF OF CHILDREN.

SHE UNDERSTANDS THE VALUE THAT THEY MAKE SURE THEY FEEL WHOLE AND THAT WILL WORK FOR A BETTER OUTCOME FOR KIDS.

I THINK PUBLICLY SHE WILL BE REMEMBERED AS THE PERSON WHO SERVED THINGS UP.

SHE REALLY DID COME IN AND THAT IS PART OF THE REFORM SCHOOL STORIES AND THE PART OF THE SUCCESS STORIES.

>> SHE MEANT A LOT TO ME PERSONALLY.

KAREN TRUSTED ME.

SHE LOVED ME, SHE ALLOWED ME TO MAKE MISTAKES.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A BETTER EXAMPLE OF A BLACK WOMAN, OF ANY WOMAN OF ANY PERSON LEADING WITH COURAGE, CONVICTION AND AUTHENTICITY.

>> Brandis: KAREN LEWIS WAS WELL LOVED AND REMEMBERED.

>>> IN UNITED STATES HISTORY THE BELIEF THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE INHERENTLY STRONGER THAN ANY OTHER IS A FEARFUL EXCEPTION.

"WHITE FRIGHT" THE HEART OF AMERICA'S RACIST HISTORY EXAMINES THE RECONSTRUCTION ERA THROUGH THE 1960S AND OFFERS A NEW PERSPECTIVE ON AMERICA'S HISTORY OF WHITE SUPREMACY.

JOINING US NOW IS THE BOOK AUTHOR, JANE DAILEY WHO IS AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO.

PROFESSOR DALY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOUR BOOK REFRAMES THE ROOTS OF AMERICAN RACISM TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE BASELINE BELIEF ABOUT WHITE SUPERIORITY BUT ALSO A DEEP ANXIETY ABOUT THE FEAR R OF BLACK SEXUALITY.

HOW DID THIS BOOK AND THAT FOUNDATION COME ABOUT?

>> Guest: THAT FOUNDATION CAME OUT OF THE CIVIL WAR MORE SPECIFICALLY THE EMANCIPATION AND FRANCHISE MEANT OF BLACKMA .

YOU DON'T FIND A LOT OF WHITE ANXIETY ABOUT INTERRACIAL SEX BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR.

IN FACT A LOT OF WHITE MEN WERE HAVING SEX WITH BLACK WOMEN, USUALLY FORCING THEMSELVES ON SLAVE WOMEN.

AFTER THE CIVIL WAR WHEN BLACK MEN STEPPED UP AS CITIZENS AND VOTERS, THEN YOU SEE THIS NEW ARGUMENT ABOUT BLACK BEAST REALITY, UNCONTROLLED ABILITY, HYPERSEXUALITY.

>> Brandis: CENTRAL TO YOUR BOOK ARE THE CONCEPTS OF MASSAGE NATION AND WHO IS WHITE AND WHO IS NOT.

HOW AND WHEN DID THOSE IDEAS BEGIN TO FORM?

>> Guest: LAWS AGAINST INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE GO BACK TO 1705 IN VIRGINIA AND NOT UNDONE UNTIL 1967.

HAVE A LONG PERIOD OF TIME THERE.

AND THEN TRYING TO DEFINE PEOPLE'S RACES CHANGED A LOT OVER THE YEARS.

USUALLY IT GETS STRICTER.

HE USED TO SAY YOU HAD TO BE 50 PERCENT SUPPOSEDLY WHITE TO BE CONSIDERED WHITE.

THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE TO BE MORE THAN THAT.

AND, IT VARIES BY STATE YOU COULD CHANGE YOUR RACE I CROSSING STATE LINES.

IF THE LAW CHANGED THE RACE COULD BE CHANGED FOR YOU BY THE LAW BEING CHANGED.

IT WAS VERY COMPLICATED AND ALWAYS DONE IN TERMS OF DECIDING WHO IS WHITE VERSES WHO IS NOT WHITE .

>> Brandis: WHY WAS AN IMPORTANT EVENT FOR SEGREGATIONISTS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS WHICH IS NOT A TERM THAT WAS FORMED UNTIL LATER ON.

I WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO KEEP THE RACES FROM MINGLING?

>> Guest: WELL, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KEEP WHITENESS AS A CATEGORY.

YOU CAN'T HAVE WHITE SUPREMACY IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS WHITE.

WHEN IRONY OF WHITE SUPREMACY IS THAT IT HAS BEEN UNDONE FROM THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT AFRICANS CAME TO OUR SHORES AND MIXED WITH ENGLISH PEOPLE AND OTHERS.

THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS SO-CALLED A PURE WHITE RACE.

THE IDEAS OF WHITE SUPREMACY AND LAWS THAT ARE DEFINED TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE THEY ARE THERE TO KEEP THE WHITE HIGHER HE IN PLACE.

>> Brandis: HOW DID THEY MAKE THE LEAP IF SCHOOLS WERE INTEGRATED THAT WOULD LEAD TO INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE AND THEREFORE A BUNCH OF MULTIRACIAL AND BIRACIAL CHILDREN AND MARRIAGES?

>> Guest: IT WAS EASY.

THEY SAID IF YOU PUT LITTLE BLACK BOYS NEXT TO WHITE GIRLS THEY WOULD GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND GET TO LIKE EACH OTHER AND THEN THEY WOULD GO ON DATES AND GET ENGAGED AND GET MARRIED AND HAVE MIXED RACE GRANDCHILDREN.

>> Brandis: SUPER SIMPLE.

OKAY.

ONE OF THE LEGAL CASES YOU DISCUSS IN YOUR BOOK ILLUSTRATES HOW SLIPPERY THE CASE OF WHITENESS CAN BE IN RHINELANDER VERSES RHINELANDER.

CAN YOU GIVE US A QUICK OUTLINE IN THAT?

>> Guest: RIGHT.

ONE THINK THAT WE OUTLINED IN THE BOOK IS THAT YOU THINK OF THESE LAWS JUST BEING IN THE SOUTH.

THEY WORKED.

THIS CASE COMES FROM NEW YORK STATE.

THERE WAS ONE IN CALIFORNIA THAT I TALK ABOUT LATER BUT IN RHINELANDER AND RHINELANDER, HIP RHINELANDER WAS OF A RICH FAMILY IN NEW YORK.

THEY CAN GO BACK TO AMSTERDAM.

HE SECRETLY MARRIED A WOMAN THAT HE MET WHEN HE WAS IN AN ASYLUM AND FELL IN LOVE WITH HER.

YOU KNOW, HE HUNG AROUND HER FAMILY A LOT AND THEY RAN AWAY AND ELOPED.

WHEN HIS FATHER FOUND OUT HE WENT BERSERK AND SAID THIS IS A BLACK WOMAN.

YOU HAVEN'T EVEN MARRIED A WHITE WOMAN.

IT WAS ILLEGAL TO MARRY ACROSS THE COLOR LINE IN NEW YORK.

IN THE RHINELANDER'S DIDN'T LIKE ALICE JONES.

SHE WAS POSSIBLY NOT WHITE, SHE WAS FROM A WORKING-CLASS FAMILY.

THEY WANTED A DIVORCE AND ALICE ACTUALLY SUED.

THE RHINELANDER'S SUED CHARGING HER WITH FRAUD SAYING SHE HAD IMPERSONATED A WHITE PERSON WHEN SHE WAS NOT ACTUALLY WHITE.

>> Brandis: WE HAVE ABOUT 20 SECONDS LEFT.

VERY QUICKLY WE HAVE AN INTERRACIAL COUPLE IN VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS AND HER HUSBAND.

DO YOU THINK, A LOT OF YEARS LATER BUT ARE INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES OR ACCEPTED?

>> Guest: YES THEY ARE.

THEY ARE ACCEPTED ACROSS THE BOARD MUCH, MUCH MORE THAN THE 1960S OR EVEN 70S.

>> Brandis: JANE DAILEY THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

AGAIN, THE BOOK IS CALLED "WHITE FRIGHT".

YOU CAN READ AN EXIT ON A WEBSITE.

>>> CHICAGO NATIVE JAMES KIRBY MADE HIS WAY IN THE CLUBS AS A LIVE SINGER AND COMEDIAN.

HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST BLACK COMEDIAN TO APPEAR ON THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW, LAUGH IN AND TONIGHT SHOW.

HE BEGAN TO BECOME KNOWN FOR HIS ANY STYLE.

IN THIS REDISCOVER CLIP FROM A 1959 INTERVIEW ON WTTW OUR PEOPLE, THE HOST ASKED KIRBY TO TELL ONE OF HIS FUNNY STORIES.

>> IT HAPPENED IN TEXAS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

THEY HIRED THE FIRST NEGRO FOOTBALL PLAYER ON THE TEXAS TEAM.

THE COACH WAS TALKING TO HIM BEFORE THE GAME AND HE SAID, LOOK HERE, LEROY, DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT A THING.

WE HAVE ALL OF YOU BEHIND YOU.

JUST GO OUT THERE AND PLAY FOOTBALL DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE PREJUDICE STUFF HERE JUST GO OUT THERE AND PLAY FOOTBALL.

SO THE TEAM WENT INTO THE FIRST HUDDLE IN THE FIRST PLAY AND AFTER THE FIRST PLAY TWO STRETCHERS WENT OUT.

ONE GUY HAD A COLLARBONE SMASHED IN THE OTHER HAD HIS RIBS SMASHED IN AND THE COACH JUMPED UP AND SAID GIVE THAT BALL TO LEROY!

DO YOU HEAR ME?

LET LEROY CARRY THAT BALL!

SO THEY WENT INTO THE SECOND PLAY AND AFTER THE SECOND PLAY THREE STRETCHERS WENT OUT.

TWO GUYS COLLARBONE SMASHED IN, THE OTHER GUYS HELMET CAVED IN.

THE COACH JUMPED UP OFF THE BENCH AND HE SAID I TOLD YOU GIVE THAT BALL TO LEROY!

HOT DOG!

[LAUGHTER] THEY WENT INTO THE THIRD HUDDLE, THEY CAME OUT AND WENT INTO THE THIRD PLAY, FOR STRETCHERS WENT OUT.

TWO GUYS HAD THEIR RIBS SMASHED IN ONE GUYS LEG WAS SMASHED, THE LAST GUYS COLLARBONE WAS SMASHED AND THE COACH JUMPED UP AND SAID I SAID GIVE THAT BALL TO LEROY!THE CAPTAIN RAISED UP IN BED LEROY SAID HE DON'T WANT THAT BALL!

[LAUGHTER] >> Brandis: HOT DOG!

ON OUR WEBSITE YOU CAN WATCH THE REST OF JIM TILMAN'S INTERVIEW WITH KIRBY WHERE HE SHOWS OFF SOME OF HIS HANDMADE JEWELRY.

>>> UP NEXT THE FATHER OF TESTING, TESTING CHICAGO TONIGHT: BLACK VOICES.

>> GOVERNOR PRITZKER DELIVERS HIS BUDGET ADDRESS AND HOW THE STATE WELCOME BACK FROM THE PANDEMIC.

>>> NORTH CHICAGO IS GETTING HIS FIRST FULL-SERVICE GROCERY STORE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.

NOW BRANDIS, WE GO BACK TO YOU.

>> Brandis: PARIS, THANK YOU.

A MUSEUM HONORING THE FATHER OF MODERN BLUES IS HEADED.

WHILE IT HAS A FEW MORE YEARS BEFORE IT OFFICIALLY OPENS IT STORES TO THE PUBLIC, THE FAMILY OF MUDDY WATERS SAY THEY ARE GRATEFUL TO CONTINUE THE STEP OF HIS LEGACY.

WE HAVE HER OWN ANGEL IDOWU WHO TALKS ABOUT THE PREVALENCE OF BLUES IN CHICAGO.

[MUSIC] >> AFTER YEARS OF TERM UNCERTAINTY, TRANSFORMING THE HOME HAS FINALLY BECOME A REALITY THE FAMILY OF MUDDY WATERS.

>> IT'S PART OF OUR JOB AS BLUES HISTORIANS AND WHO LOVE BLUES AND VYING FOR THE BLUES, IT IS OUR JOB TO ROOT HELP PEOPLE REMEMBER THAT THE BLUES IS THE ROOT TO A LOT OF MUSIC.

[MUSIC] MUDDY WATERS MOVED TO CHICAGO IN THE 1940S TO PURSUE MUSIC FULL-TIME.

HIS ELECTRIC BLUES STYLE INFLUENCED NEARLY EVERY BLUES AND ROCK MUSICIANS AFTER HIM.

CHANDRA COOPER IS THE GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER OF MUDDY WATERS AND OVERSEEING THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW MOJO MUSEUM.

HER MOTHER, AMELIA "COOKIE" COOPER WAS RAISED BY HER GRANDFATHER THERE ARE.

>> GROWING UP IN A HOUSE WITH SECULAR MUSICIANS AND EVERYONE WHO CAME IN, IT WASN'T UNUSUAL.

I COULD BE WOKEN UP AT 1:00 OR TO AND:00 AND THEY WERE JAMMING OUT IN THE BASEMENT.

[SINGING] [MUSIC] LIKE I SAID, THEY WOULD COME IN FOR A GIG.

THAT'S HOW I LEARNED TO COOK SO WELL FOR JOANIE'S TO COME IN AT 1:00, 2:00 AND NEED I WOULD WAKE ME UP AND WE WOULD GO IN THE KITCHEN AND START MAKING EGGS, FRYING BACON AND THEY WOULD EAT AND IF THEY FELT LIKE IT AT 2:30, 3:00 IN THE MORNING THEY WERE GONE IN THE BASEMENT.

NEXT THE MUSEUM HAD TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION WITH RECORDING TO PREPARE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF ARTISTS.

NEXT WE WANT TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS MAKING SURE WE ARE ABLE TO BRING CHILDREN AND YOUTH AND TO UNDERSTAND THE BLUES AND EDUCATION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE MUSICIANS TO GIVE THEM EDUCATIONAL LEADERS AS WELL.

ONE THINK THAT I WAS REALLY STRONG ABOUT WAS TO EMPOWER WOMEN IN THE BLUES SPACE AS WELL.

[MUSIC] >> THE MUSEUM WILL ALSO PAY TRIBUTE TO JOSEPH MORGANFIELD, ONE OF WATERS SONS WHO DIED JUST LAST YEAR AS HIS CAREER IN THE BLUES WAS JUST TAKING OFF.

HE HAD CREATED NEW MUSIC DURING THE PANDEMIC.

[SINGING] [MUSIC] >> IT IS REALLY HEARTBREAKING FOR OUR FAMILY BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE SO MUCH OF THE RESEMBLANCE.

>> WITH A $50,000 GRANT FROM THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THE WATERS ESTATE SAID THE MUSEUM COULD BE OPEN AND AS SOON TWO YEARS.

NEXT WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT THERE IS NOT ANY KIND OF BLUES MUSEUM IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

FOR US TO PULL THIS OFF IT WOULD BE GIGANTIC.

>> FOR CHICAGO TONIGHT, I AM ANGEL IDOWU.

>> Brandis: ADD TO OUR WEBSITE WHERE A COUPLE OF ARTISTS SHARE THEIR FAVORITE MEMORIES OF WORKING WITH MUDDY WATERS AND HIS SON, JOSEPH, DURING THE HEIGHT OF THEIR MUSICAL CAREER.

THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR TONIGHT, JOIN THEIR SHOTS AND MEET TOMORROW NIGHT FOR CHICAGO TODAY.

WE LEAVE YOU TONIGHT WITH MUDDY WATERS AND GOT MY MOJO WORKING FROM THE CHICAGO SUMMIT HERE AT WTTW, A CHICAGO CONCERT THAT BECAME PART OF THE LEGENDARY SERIES.

FOR ALL OF US TONIGHT AT CHICAGO TONIGHT: BLACK VOICES I AM BRANDIS FRIEDMAN.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING PART OF YOUR WEEKEND WITH US, STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.