
CilpDart Mobile Barber, Legislative Update, 14th Amendment
Season 2024 Episode 23 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Mobile Barber for Underserved, Legislative Update Dems, 14th Amendment Amicus Brief
Their mission is to improve mental wellness via mobile barbers and hairstylists. Our weekly Legislative update is with the Democrats. Each week we invite a state senator and a representative from a single party to join Ted and discuss the latest news. An amicus brief that has been making the rounds was written by 25 historians, including ASU's own Brooks Simpson, Foundation Professor of History.
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CilpDart Mobile Barber, Legislative Update, 14th Amendment
Season 2024 Episode 23 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Their mission is to improve mental wellness via mobile barbers and hairstylists. Our weekly Legislative update is with the Democrats. Each week we invite a state senator and a representative from a single party to join Ted and discuss the latest news. An amicus brief that has been making the rounds was written by 25 historians, including ASU's own Brooks Simpson, Foundation Professor of History.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A WEEKLY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE LOOKS AT EFFORTS AT THE STATE CAPITOL TO ADDRESS THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ARIZONA.
>> WE'LL HEAR FROM ONE OF 25 HISTORIANS WHO SUPPORT KEEPING DONALD TRUMP OFF THE BALLOT IN COLORADO.
>>> A NEW EFFORT TO IMPROVE MENTAL HEALTH BY WAY OF BARBERS AND HAIRSTYLISTS.
>> Ted: CHANGES AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, DEMOCRAT REPRESENTATIVE LEEZAH SUN RESIGNED STEPPING DOWN PRIOR TO SCHEDULED VOTE ON HER EXPULSION SAYING SHE ENGAGED IN A PATTERN OF DISORDERLY BEHAVIOR AND THREATS.
AND JUST PRIOR TO THE HOUSE ADJOURNING TODAY, DR. AMEESH SHAW ANNOUNCED HE WILL BE STEPPING DOWN TOMORROW.
HIS RESIGNATION WAS NOT UNEXPECTED.
HE'S RUNNING THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY TO TAKE ON INCUMBENT DAVID SCHEWEIKERT IN DISTRICT ONE.
ALSO TODAY, FORMER CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE, JEVIN HODGE WAS APPOINTED TO FILL THE SEAT IN LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT 8 VACATED BY ATHENA SALMAN.
>> FED CHAIR JEROME POWELL SAID RATES COULD BE TOWARDS A 2% TARGET.
>> LET ME SAY WE'RE LOOKING FOR GREATER CONFIDENCE THAT INFLATION IS MOVING DOWN TO 2%.
CONFIDENCE HAS BEEN INCREASING AND WE WANT GREATER CONFIDENCE.
WE WANT TO SEE MORE GOOD DATA.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR BETTER DATA BUT LOOKING FOR A CONTINUATION OF THE GOOD DATA WE'VE BEEN SEEING.
>> Ted: LAST MONTH, THE FED WAS DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO RAISE RATES AND NOW POWELL AND FED OFFICIALS APPEAR OPEN TO RATE CUTS.
TODAY'S MOVE KEEPS INTEREST RATES AT A MORE THAN TWO DECADE HIGH.
>>> MARK ZUCKERBURG TESTIFIED ABOUT THE WAY ONLINE PLATFORMS HAVE SPREAD CHILD SEX ABUSE MATERIAL AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABOUT NOT HOLD BACK.
>> Mr. ZUCKERBURG, YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS.
YOU HAVE A PRODUCT -- [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> -- YOU HAVE A PRODUCT OF KILLING PEOPLE.
>> Ted: AT ONE POINT, ZUCKERBURG STOOD UP, TURNED AND DIRECTLY APOLOGIZED TO PARENTS OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF HARASSMENT AND EXPLOITATION.
HE SAID ONLINE ABUSE IS A COMPLEX ISSUE.
>> MENTAL HEALTH IS A COMPLEX ISSUE AND THE EXISTING BODY OF SCIENTIFIC WORK HAS NOT SHOWN A LINK BETWEEN USING SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOUNG PEOPLE HAVING WORSE MENTAL HEALTH OUTCOMES.
WE'LL MONITOR THE RESEARCH AND USE IT TO INFORM OUR ROADMAP.
>> Ted: EXECUTIVES OF X, TIKTOK AND OTHER PLATFORMS ALSO TESTIFIED TODAY.
>>> IT'S WEDNESDAY AND THAT MEANS IT'S TIME FOR OUR WEEKLY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE IN THIS WE LOOK AT LATEST FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
TONIGHT, IT'S THE DEMOCRAT'S TURN AND WE WELCOME JUAN MENDEZ AND OSCAR DE LOS SANTOS.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
>> Ted: LEEZAH SUN IS ADIOS AND YOUR THOUGHTS HERE?
>> AS YOU SAID, THE RESIGNATION COMES DAYS AFTER THE HOUSE ETHIC'S COMMITTEE ISSUED A REPORTER FINDING SHE ENGAGED IN DISORDERLY BEHAVIOR.
I WANT TO THANK THE ETHIC'S COMMITTEE FOR CONDUCTING A THOROUGHFARE AND TRANSPARENT INVESTIGATION.
IT WAS CLEAR THE REPRESENTATIVE VIOLATED THE RULES OF THE HOUSE AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M GLAD SHE DID THE RIGHT THING FOR THE STATE AND INSTITUTION BY RESIGNING.
>> Ted: WHAT IS GOING ON DOWN THERE?
>> THERE PRESSURES ON US AND I WANT TO POINT TO, SPECIFICALLY, HOW LOW PAY WE RECEIVE.
AT JUST $24,000, IT'S HARD TO KEEP ANYBODY THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT I MEAN, OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE CHOOSING TO RUN FOR HIGHER OFFICE.
>> Ted: AN ELECTION YEAR, YOU SEE THIS KIND OF THING, RIGHT?
>> RIGHT.
>> Ted: LET'S TALK ABOUT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND WHAT'S DONE AT THE LEGISLATURE?
>> AS DEMOCRATS, I WANT TO SAY WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
YOU'RE SEEING EVICTION RATES THROUGH THE ROOF AND HARDER AND HARDER FOR MY GENERATION TO ATTAIN HOME OWNERSHIP AND WHAT COMES WITH IT.
THAT'S ONE THING TO MAKE CLEAR, THAT DEMOCRATS ARE LAZER FOCUSED ON BRINGING DOWN COSTS FOR HOUSING.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE DOING, WHICH SENATOR MENDEZ AND I ARE PROUD TO MAKE NEWS HERE, WE'LL DROP A BILL TO TAKE ON CORPORATE INVESTORS THAT ARE JACKING UP THE PRICE OF HOUSING.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS CORPORATE INVESTORS, MEGACORPORATIONS FROM OUT OF STATE COMING INTO ARIZONA, BUYING UP A LARGE SWATH OF THE MARKET AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY'RE TAKING HOMES OUT OF THE MARKET FOR ARIZONA FAMILIES AND JACKING UP PRICES AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON YOU'RE SEEING EVICTIONS COME UP SO HIGH.
WHAT OUR BILL DOES, IT CAPS CORPORATE INVESTORS FROM PURCHASING HOMES AT ONLY ONE HUNDRED A YEAR.
>> Ted: AND ONLY ONE HUNDRED A YEAR AND HOW FAR WILL THAT GO DOWN THERE?
>> WE NEED THE HELP TO FOCUS THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR IMPACTS OF WHAT'S CAUSING SO MUCH AFFORDABILITY.
RIGHT NOW, REPUBLICANS WANT TO FOCUS ON RED TAPE AS GOVERNMENT IS THE REASON THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING IN THIS MARKET.
SO WE HAVE AN UPHILL BATTLE IN THE SENSE REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON THIS PART OF THE PROBLEM.
BUT WE'RE MAKING HEADWAY IN STARTING THIS DISCUSSION.
>> Ted: LIMITING ECONOMIC VENTURES, THAT'S NOT A STARTER.
>> IT'S NOT WHERE THEY IDEALOGICALLY ARE COMING FROM, BUT IT'S HARD TO KEEP POINTING AT GOVERNMENT AS THE PROBLEM WHEN IT'S CLEARLY THESE LARGE CORPORATIONS BUYING UP HUGE AMOUNTS OF PROPERTY.
>> Ted: CAN YOU NOT MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT REGULATIONS, THAT CITY AND COUNTY REGULATIONS, THEY TAKE TOO MUCH PRIME TIME FOR DEVELOPERS AND MESSES WITH SUPPLY CHAINS.
IS THERE A WAY TO SAY BACK OFF?
>> WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ALL OF THE ABOVE STRATEGY AND APPROACH AND I THINK DEMOCRATS ARE OPEN TO COMMON SENSE REFORMS AT THE CITY LEVEL OR STATE LEVEL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CUTTING RED TAPE WHERE WE CAN WITHOUT CUTTING CORNERS ON SAFETY OR HEALTH.
BUT WE ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE HOUSING SUPPLY INCREASE AND DIVERSIFY WITHOUT GIVING UP ANY SAFETY CONCERNS.
>> Ted: AGAIN, ARE THERE TIMES WHEN REGULATIONS JUST GO TOO FAR, ESPECIALLY HOUSING AND GETTING THIS THING KICK-STARTED?
>> WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT REGULATIONS ARE PROTECTIONS AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IN TERMS OF -- THESE ARE NOT ACTORS WE CAN TRUST TO DO GOOD FOR USES.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.
AND SO, WE GUARANTEE THAT WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WILL BUILD IS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD TO BUY.
>> Ted: SENATE BILL 12, CITIES CAN'T REQUIRE HOA'S AND WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT IDEA?
>> I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO LIKES HOA'S AND THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM WITH HOW DEVELOPERS PRETTY MUCH FORCED EVERYBODY INTO THE HOA'S.
SO THERE'S MERIT IN DISCUSSING THAT.
>> Ted: MANDATING HOME SIZES AND REQUIRING COMMUNITY AMENITIES, CAN THAT GET IN THE WAY OF ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE?
>> SURE, BUT ONE OF THE NEXT MEASURES IS THAT THEY WANT TO SPLIT UP LOTS AND TAKE A SINGLE-FAMILY OWNED LOT PROBABLY SELLING FOR AN AVERAGE OF UNDER 450,000 AND IF THEY SPLIT IT INTO TWO OR THREE OR FOUR HOUSES IN THAT SAME LOT, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THE DEVELOPER WON'T SELL THOSE SMALLER HOUSES FOR THE SAME PRICE OR EQUAL PRICE.
UNTIL WE PUT IN GUARANTEES THERE'S AFFORDABILITY, MORE HOUSES WON'T TRICKLE DOWN INTO AFFORDABILITY.
>> Ted: WHERE DO PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTED FIT IN ON THIS AND IN GENERAL, IS THERE A WAY TO GET BIPARTISAN TO REAR ITS HEAD?
>> I HOPE SO AND DEMOCRATS ARE ENGAGED IN A BIPARTISAN WAY AND WE'RE WILLING TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES.
THE DIFFICULT BALANCE IS THAT WE HAVE MANY, MANY INTERESTS HERE.
WE HAVE CITIES AND LOCAL CONTROL AND WANT TO MAKE SURE HOUSING IS AFFORDABLE AND WE WANT TO BALANCE THIS ALL AT ONCE.
>> Ted: SO THEY'RE MOVING ALONG?
>> THEY ARE MOVING ALONG.
>> Ted: EXTENDING PROP 123, REPUBLICANS HAVE ONE IDEA, KEEP IT AT ONE RATE AND DON'T BANKRUPT THE STATE OR PUT THE STATE IN PERIL AND DEMOCRATS, THE GOVERNMENT, 8.9% ON THAT, HUH?
>> AND EACH HAVE OUR OWN EXPERTS AND ANALYSIS TELLING US THAT THESE NUMBERS WORK AND THE FUNDS CAN AFFORD TO PAY OUT AT THAT LEVEL.
AS LONG IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE CORPUS OF THE FUND, WE SHOULD BE FINE GOING FORWARD.
>> Ted: THEY'RE SAYING IT'S 4% AND 5% AND YOU'RE WANTING TO TAKE OUT 8.9%.
HOW DOES THAT AGREE?
>> I DISAGREE.
TEN YEARS AFTER IT'S IMPLEMENTED, THE FUND IS FINE AND WE HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK THAT THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS NEED FUNDING AND TEACHERS NEED A PAY INCREASE.
I'M A FORMER PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER AND I WAS MAKING LESS THAN $30,000 A YEAR AND THAT NUMBER DROPS TALKING ABOUT BUS DRIVERS AND THE OTHER SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS WHO MAKE OUR STATE RUN.
SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED AND THE FACT IS THAT IT IS ALSO AN INVESTMENT IN OUR STATE.
>> Ted: NEEDED?
>> BECAUSE WE'RE FORCED TO BE HERE.
IF THE REPUBLICANS WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE THE WEALTHY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE RELYING ON THIS.
>> Ted: MOST DEMOCRATS, PRACTICALLY ALL DEMOCRATS WERE AGAINST PROP 123 AND NOW, YOU'RE NOT ONLY FOR IT BUT WANTING TO JACK IT UP HIGHER?
WHAT CHANGED?
>> WE CAN'T TRUST REPUBLICANS WITH THIS.
IF THEY WANTED TO DO A SUSTAINABLE AND FIND SUSTAINABLE FUNDING, WE WOULD.
THEY'RE REFUSING TO GOVERN.
>> Ted: HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN YOU WANT TO USE MORE OF THIS MONEY?
>> TIME HAS SHOWN SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE, PERHAPS, OVERBLOWN AND SO THAT'S HOW I RESPOND.
>> Ted: THAT'S HOW YOU RESPOND?
>> LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN GROWS BY ONE BILLION DOLLARS UP TO 2035 AND THIS IS A WAY TO FUND SCHOOLS AND GIVE TEACHERS A PAY RAISE ALL WITHOUT RAISES TAXES ON ARIZONANS.
>> Ted: 6.9 AND 8.9, IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE TO BE WORKED OUT?
>> I MEAN, WE CAN PROBABLY KEEP DISCUSSING THIS.
WE WOULD WANT TO SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM.
>> Ted: AND SEE WHERE THE MONEY GOES.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING YOU.
>>> UP NEXT, WE'LL HEAR FROM ONE OF 25 HISTORIANS WHO SUPPORT ARGUMENTS THAT COULD KEEP DONALD TRUMP OFF THE BALLOT IN COLORADO.
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>> WE'RE LOOKING NOW AT POSSIBLY EVEN A TRIAL OF THE PRESIDENT'S SON AND MANY PEOPLE ARE UNCLEAR ABOUT BIDEN'S AGENDA.
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>> Ted: 25 HISTORIANS HAVE FILED AN AMICUS IN SUPPORT OF COLORADO'S 14th AMENDMENT DISQUALIFICATION CLAUSE TO KEEP DONALD TRUMP OFF THE BALLOT.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF US.
FOR THOSE OF US NOT SURE OF AN AMICUS BRIEF, WHAT IS THAT?
>> BRIEFS CAN COME FROM ALL CORNERS AND THE BRIEF THAT I'M INVOLVED THIS COMES FROM A GROUP OF AMERICAN HISTORIANS.
>> Ted: THE AMERICAN HISTORIANS, YOU GUYS ARE BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE 14th AMENDMENT, THE INSURRECTION CLAUSE AND WHAT?
I THINK THE ARGUMENT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT IT DOESN'T COVER PRECEDENT AND OH, YEAH, IT DOES?
>> FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT THE ORIGINAL INTENT, THE REPUBLICANS ACTING DURING RECONSTRUCTION IN CONGRESS AND THE STEPS OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, ANDREW JOHNSON, THEY DEFINE THE PRESIDENT AT A PUBLIC OFFICER.
THEREBY, THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY FALLS UNDER SECTION THREE OF THE 14th AMENDMENT.
>> Ted: MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WERE MENTIONED, BUT THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT MENTIONED.
DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
>> NOT REALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER LEGISLATION PASSES OF TIME MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THE TERM "PUBLIC OFFICER" INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND EVEN ANDREW JOHNSON WHO WOULD BE IMPEACHED TWO YEARS AFTER THE 14th AMENDMENT WAS FRAMED, TO FIND HIMSELF AS THE CHIEF PUBLIC OFFICER OF THE UNITED STATES.
>> Ted: SO OFFICE AND PRESIDENT IN THIS CASE ARE INTERCHANGEABLE?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> Ted: FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU WANT THE COURT TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHERE ALL OF THIS CAME FROM?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
OUR JOB WAS SIMPLE IN A WAY, WHAT DID PEOPLE MEAN AND WHAT WAS THEIR INTENT.
WE HAVE SEVERAL JUSTICES ON THE COURT WHO TALK A LOT ABOUT THEIR DEVOTION TO ORIGINAL EXTENT.
SO WE'RE JUST SHINING A LIGHT ON EXACTLY WHAT THE PEOPLE AT THE TIME WERE THINKING AND SAYING AND INTENDING.
>> Ted: AND 25 HISTORIANS INCLUDING YOU AND WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO JOIN THIS?
I DECIDED TO JOIN THIS BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE TIMES WHEN HISTORIANS CAN ACTUALLY HELP ILLUMINATE A PUBLIC DEBATE.
SINCE THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WAS INTENDED, WHAT DO THE TERMS MEAN?
HISTORIANS OFFER WELL-INFORMED ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> Ted: WENT YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT DO THE TERMS MEAN, THE CLAUSE IS, "ENGAGED IN REBELLION" OR GIVEN AID COMFORT TO OUR ENEMIES.
HOW DID DONALD TRUMP FALL INTO EITHER OF THOSE CATEGORIES?
>> THE ARGUMENT ON JANUARY 6, 2021, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DISRUPTED THE PUBLIC VOTE.
THE ONLY TIME THAT AMERICANS HAVE STORMED THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL.
THE LAST TIME WE WERE TALKING A THREAT WERE THE BRITISH IN 1814.
>> Ted: BUT YOU MENTIONED THE EVIDENCE IS THERE AND THE REASONING IS THERE BUT WHAT KIND OF PROOF IS THERE AND IS THERE A DUE PROCESS ELEMENT HERE?
>> NOT IN TERMS OF THE 14th AMENDMENT, SECTION 3 IS WHAT'S SELF-EXECUTING.
THE CONFEDERATES WERE NOT TRIED FOR AN INSURRECTION.
IF REPUBLICANS WANT TO SHOW, IN FACT, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT DO THIS, THEY NEED TO INTRODUCE A LEGISLATION TO THE CONGRESS TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT IT DID HAPPEN.
>> Ted: AS YOU DID CONFER, A CONVICTION IS NOT NEEDED?
>> JEFFERSON DAVIS WAS RELEASED SEVERAL YEARS AFTER THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR WITHOUT BEING PROSECUTED AND STAYED OUTSIDE OF THIS PARDON AND THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS DID NOT PARDON HIM.
IN FACT, JEFFERSON DAVIS SAID HE SHOULDN'T BE PARDONED BECAUSE HE THOUGHT WHAT HE DID WAS RIGHT.
>> Ted: INTERESTING.
AS FAR AS CONGRESSIONAL ACTION, YOU SAY IF THE CONGRESSIONAL ACTION IS DONE ON THIS CASE, THEN THAT AFFECTS WHAT?
>> IT WOULD MAKE ANYBODY WHO HAD TAKEN AN OATH TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION AND ENGAGED WITH THE INSURRECTION OF 2021, THOSE PEOPLE COULD BE RENDERED ELIGIBLE FOR OFFICE AS MANY CONFEDERATES WERE AFTER THE CIVIL WAR.
>> Ted: THAT'S INTERESTING.
LAST QUESTION.
THIS SITUATION AND YOUR INVOLVEMENT, BUT THE CASE IN GENERAL, DOES IT INCREASE PRESSURE ON THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS?
>> IT CERTAINLY DOES, AND IT SHAPED HOW THE COURT WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL HISTORIANS FOLLOWING THE SAME LINES OF ARGUMENT AND IT WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR THE SUPREME COURT DECISION TO COME DOWN CLAIMING THAT IT WAS ORIGINAL INTENT AND RENDERING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ELIGIBLE TO BE ON THE BALLOT IN COLORADO AND ELSEWHERE.
>> Ted: VERY INTEREST STUFF AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> I APPRECIATE IT.
♪ ♪ >> TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, BIG TECH EXECUTIVES ARE GRILLED BY FEDERAL LAWMAKERS ACCUSING THEM OF FAILING TO PROTECT CHILDREN ON THEIR PLATFORMS.
THAT'S COMING UP AT 6:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.
>> Ted: A LOCAL NONPROFIT IS USING HAIRCUTS AND HAIRSTYLISTS AS A WAY TO HELP FOLKS GET BACK ON THEIR FEET ANDLY A BETTER LIFE.
JOINING US IS DAVID RODRIQUEZ FROM CLIP DART AND GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Ted: GIVE ME A BETTER DEFINITION.
>> THIS IS A TWO-PILLAR ORGANIZATION AND WE HAVE THE CLIP DART, INC. >> Ted: AND IT'S FREE ON-SITE HAIRCUTS, CORRECT?
>> CORRECT.
>> Ted: WHO ARE YOU DEALING WITH HERE AND FOCUSING ON?
>> WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE MOST VULNERABLE, MOST UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.
>> Ted: THIS WOULD BE A NONPROFIT AND COLLEGES, AREAS OF TOWN THAT ARE, WHAT, IN NEED OF WHAT?
>> CORRECT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE A CULTURE WITHIN OUR CLIP DART ORGANIZATION.
WHEN IT COMES TO BARBERING AND STYLING, MOST UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES ARE IN LACK OF AND THERE IS A MISSING CULTURE WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THAT COMMUNITY TO FILL THE VOID THEY'VE BEEN MISSING.
>> Ted: IMPROVING.
>> YOU'RE LOOKING SPIFFY RIGHT NOW.
>> Ted: THANK YOU.
>> SOMEBODY CUT YOUR HAIR AND YOU'RE LOOKING GOOD.
>> Ted: IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
>> IT SURE DOES.
IMPROVING MENTAL ILLNESS IS SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE SPECIALIZE INTO THE HAIRCUT BUSINESS AND OUR COMMUNITIES.
>> Ted: HOW DOES THIS WORK?
DO YOU GO TO A COMMUNITY FIRST AND FINE INDIVIDUALS THERE?
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> WE TRY TO PARTNER UP WITH OTHER HUMAN SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES AND THAT WAY, WE CAN HAVE -- THE WHOLE YEAR, WE PARTNER TO DO THE SAME BUSINESS AND SAME TIME, SAME DAY SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY STARTS BEING FAMILIAR WITH THE BARBERS AND STYLISTS THAT COME FORTH AND THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR OFFICES AT NO COST.
>> Ted: A GOOD WAY TO KNOW WHICH AREA OF TOWN NEEDS HELP.
>> YOU'LL BE SURPRISED WHICH ONES DO.
THEY'RE IN A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THERE'S A VOID WE MUST FULFILL.
WE TRY TO ATTACK ALL DEMOGRAPHICS.
>> Ted: THIS STARTED IN 2015 AS AN APP?
>> OUR PARTNER AND CEO WANTED THIS TO BE AN ON-DEMAND BARBER APP AND WHEN IT WAS SET TO LAUNCH IN 2020, THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED.
SO COVID OCCURRED AND IT DELAYED OUR LAUNCH.
SO WHAT WE DID, WE DECIDED TO GO BUSINESS-TO-BUSINESS TO PROVIDE FREE MONTHLY SERVICES.
>> Ted: AND GOT A GOOD RESPONSE.
>> TO THE POINT THAT'S WHAT WE DO NOW AS OPPOSED TO THE APP.
>> Ted: AS FAR AS CLIP DART IN ITSELF, AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT GOT THIS WHOLE THING STARTED?
>> KYLE PARKER, OUR FOUNDER AND CEO.
>> TELL US ABOUT HIM.
>> HE'S AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALE AND GOING TO GRINNELL COLLEGE, HE FOUND IT HARD TO FIND A BARBER CLOSE ENOUGH AND SKILLED ENOUGH TO CUT HIS HAIR AND THAT'S WHEN HE REALIZED THAT HE -- THAT THE MOBILE BARBERS WERE ESSENTIAL TO MENTAL WELLNESS.
>> Ted: LAST YEAR, A $100,000 PUBLIC HEALTH GRANT, IS THAT TRUE?
>> WE RECEIVED A COUNTY GRANT FROM THE MARICOPA COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH TO PROVIDE FREE MONTHLY HEALTHCARE SERVICES TO 15 SENIOR SERVICES UNTIL MAY OF 2024.
>> Ted: PEOPLE DON'T THINK OF A SENIOR CENTER AS A PLACE TO GO FOR HAIRCUTS.
YOU NEED HAIRCUTS WHEN YOU'RE OLDER, TOO.
>> THAT'S ANOTHER CULTURE IS THE HAIRCUT BUSINESS AND BEING THEY LACK, MAYBE, THE TRANSPORTATION AND HEALTH ISSUES, WE COVER THAT FOR THEM.
>> Ted: THE LAST QUESTION, THE BARBER SHOPS AS CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, IT REALLY IS INTERESTING HOW IN CERTAIN CULTURES THAT IS A MEETING GROUND, ISN'T IT?
>> IT IS A MEETING GROUND.
WHEN IT COMES TO BARBERSHOPS IN THE BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT'S WHERE WE TELL STORIES AND JOKES AND DISCUSS STRUGGLES.
WE DISCUSS SPORTS AND THAT'S OUR SAFE SPACE FOR MOST OF US.
>> Ted: AS FAR AS THIS ART IS CONCERNED, WHERE CAN PEOPLE FIND OUT?
>> CLIPPEDART.COM FOR SURE OR INSTAGRAM AND AZCLIPPEDARTCARES ON INSTAGRAM AND TIKTOK AND THAT'S TO HIGHLIGHT MOSTLY ARIZONA ACTIVITY BECAUSE WE ARE IN 20 DIFFERENT STATES.
>> Ted: DAVID RODRIQUEZ, CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL YOUR SUCCESS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

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