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Cindy Boyle on PFAS Contamination in the Town of Peshtigo
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2240 | 6m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Cindy Boyle on the town of Peshtigo and PFAS pollution amid lawsuits and political fights.
Former town of Peshtigo Chairperson Cindy Boyle describes how the northeast Wisconsin community is addressing PFAS pollution amid new federal regulations, state political fights and ongoing lawsuits.
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Cindy Boyle on PFAS Contamination in the Town of Peshtigo
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2240 | 6m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Former town of Peshtigo Chairperson Cindy Boyle describes how the northeast Wisconsin community is addressing PFAS pollution amid new federal regulations, state political fights and ongoing lawsuits.
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>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> ACTION PART NEW FEDERAL LEVEL S HAVE BEEN SET AT FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION, MUCH LOWER THAN WISCONSIN'S 70 PARTS PER TRILLION.
ON INACTION PART LAWMAKER S HAVE REJECTED GOVERNOR EBERS CALL TO SPEND 125 MILLION TO DEAL WITH PFAS .ENTER STATE AND NATIONAL LAWSUITS AGAINST PARTIES DEEMED RESPONSIBLE FOR PFAS CONTAMINATION ARE IN VARIOUS ONE TRIAL GOES ON LATER THIS YEAR.
TYCO MANUFACTURED FIRE FIGHTING FOAM USED AT TRAIN FACILITY, AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES INCLUDING PESHTIGO ARE HOT SPOTS.
AFTER YEARS OF TESTING, FIGHTING, LOOKING FOR HELP OUR NEXT GUEST IS FORMER CHAIR OF THE TOWN OF PESHTIGO GOOSH BOARD, CINDY BOYLE.
YOUR OWN PROPERTY?
YEARS.
>> SO THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HOPING TO COME TO THE RESCUE OF PLACES LIKE PESHTIGO FROM STATE, THE FED, LAWSUITSES, COMPANY OUTLAYS.
HAS THAT MONEY YET MADE A DIFFERENCE?
THERE IS SIGNIFICANT FUNDING COMING TO STATES ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE A CONSISTENT BASIS AT THIS POINT FOR MORE THAN WE COULD HAVE HOPED FOR EVEN SEVEN YEARS AGO, OR SIX YEARS AGO.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE NOT NO A SIGNIFICANT MEANINGFUL WAY AS FAR AS A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY, NO YET BUT THE DNR IS PUTTING THAT TO WORK AND WE HAVE TO GET THAT FUNDING RELEASED FROM TRUST AND INTO THE DNR DIRECTION.
>> AS TO THE IN-FIGHTING OVER 125 MILLION WHAT DO RESIDENTS LIKE YOURSELF THINK ABOUT THAT FIGHTING IN MADISON WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THIS URGENT HELP?
IT IS COMPLICATED, AS ARE ALL THINGS PFAS.
BUT I WONDER -- I UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL THAT SB312 LEGISLATION AND UNDERSTOOD THE ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT.
I'M CONCERNED -- I'M GRATEFUL GOVERNOR EBERS DID VETO.
WE AS A STATE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE THIS BILL'S LAW WEAKENED.
IT IS THE SINGLE MECHANISM BY WHICH RESIDENTS IN WISCONSIN HAVE PROTECTION WITH THE DNR.
IF THEY LOSE THAT PROTECTION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM OUR COMMUNITY FOR ONE WOULD NEVER HAVE BENEFITTED FROM HELP THEY HAVE PROVIDED US SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT FOREMOST IN OUR MINDS AS THINGS GO FORWARD.
I AM VERY, VERY HOPEFUL THAT NEW LEGISLATION WILL MAKE ITS WAY OR THAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WILL AT LEAST RELEASE THOSE FUNDS AS INTENDED OVER A YEAR AGO.
IT NEEDS TO START BEING ABLE TO BE PUT TO WORK.
>> SO PFAS IS COMPLICATED.
ALL THE REMEDIATIONS AND ALL THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES AND ALL OF IT.
HAS THIS DIVIDED YOUR COMMUNITY?
PEOPLE GET A LITTLE BIT WORN OUT.
MAYBE THEY GET A LITTLE DEFEATED AND FEEL LIKE THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A SOLUTION OR MAYBE PEOPLE THOUGHT THE SETTLEMENT THAT TYCO DISTRIBUTED THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY WAS THE BEST THEY COULD HOPE FOR AND ARE NOW CHOOSING TO NOT THINK ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW THE TOPIC TOO WELL TO DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS, SO MYSELF AND OTHERS WHO ARE IN COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP ROLES AND ADVOCACY ROLES ARE MOVING FORWARD TOWARD SAFE WATER AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY.
>> YOU DESCRIBE BEING EXCITED ABOUT A NEW ANNOUNCEMENT OUT OF THE EPA.
WHAT WAS THAT.
>> YES.
SO THIS MORNING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FINALIZED A RULE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS.
THEY ARE DEEMING PFOA AND PF OS AS HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES, WHICH IS CRITICAL BECAUSE IT WILL QUALIFY THEM UNDER SUPERFUND THAT.
SEEMS CONTRADICTORY TO HOPE YOUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR SUPERFUND BECAUSE BASICALLY MEANS YOU LIVE IN A VERY POLLUTED AREA BUT MEANS THE EPA HAS THE AUTHORITY TO HOLD PARTIES RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THEY DO ADEQUATE, COMPREHENSIVE REMEDIATION FOR THINGS LIKE SURFACE WATER, SOILS, AS WELL AS HELP INNOCENT LAND OWNERS SUCH AS MYSELF HAVE PERMANENT SAFE WATER SOLUTIONS.
AFTER TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT THERE WAS UNCERTAINTY AROUND THE NEXT STEPS FOR THIS.
WITH TODAY'S ANNOUNCEMENT WE ARE VERY VINDICATED AND ENCOURAGED AND OPTIMISTIC THAT THERE IS STILL A STRONG PATH FORWARD, SO WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL THIS RULE HAS GONE INTO PLACE.
>> COMBINE THAT WITH RECENT EPA SETTING MAX AT FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION, WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
AFFECT US BECAUSE WE ARE ON PRIVATE DRINKING WELLS BUT LAST WEEK AGO WEDNESDAY -- SO ALL PEOPLE ON WATER THROUGH PUBLIC UTILITY HAVE ASSURANCE OF PROTECTION, ESPECIALLY FOR WISCONSIN, WE HAD AS YOU MENTIONED 70 PARTS PER TRILLION AND EPA ADJUSTED THAT TO FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION, A MORE PROTECTIVE NUMBER.
WE ARE GRATEFUL.
THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED IN 30 YEARS.
THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT STEPS.
I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU STRAIGHT.
THAT TELLS ME TWO THINGS: INDUSTRY LOBBYISTS ARE VERY GOOD AT THEIR JOB.
NUMBER TWO, IT TELLS YOU HOW BAD PFAS IS THAT THOSE TWO RULES STILL WERE MADE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CINDY BOYLE, WE
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