REPORT FROM SANTA FE IS MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY GRANTS FROM THE NEW MEXICO MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, A BETTER NEW MEXICO THROUGH BETTER CITIES AND FROM >>LORENE: HELLO, I AM LORENE MILLS AND WELCOME TO REPORT FROM SANTA FE .

A DAZZLING EVENT IS COMING UP IN NEW MEXICO AND SANTA FE AND WITH US TODAY ARE CLARE HERTEL AND MARK BRYANT, WHO HAVE PUT TOGETHER THIS AMAZING EVENT, THE SANTA FE LITERARY FESTIVAL.

NOW LOOK, THE LINEUP OF TALENT MADE ME THINK THAT IT ALL HAS GOT TO BE ZOOMED, PEOPLE CANNOT ALL BE HERE, THE MOST FAMOUS WRITERS ALIVE AND YET, THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN PERSON FOR ONE WEEKEND.

SO, TELL US WHAT THE SANTA FE LITERARY FESTIVAL IS AND THE DATES AND THEN SHOW US A COUPLE OF YOUR POSTERS AND THEN WE WILL HIT THE LINEUP.

>>CLARE: OKAY.

THE SANTA FE LITERARY FESTIVAL IS HAPPENING IN A LITTLE LESS THAN THREE WEEKS, ON MAY 20 TO THE 23 AND WE ARE SO EXCITED TO HAVE AN AMAZING LINEUP AND HERE IS ANOTHER LITTLE PIECE FROM OUR PROMOTIONAL LIBRARY.

BUT WE ARE STARTING OFF WITH COLSON WHITEHEAD WHO IS JUST GOING TO BE AMAZING TO HAVE HERE AND FOR PEOPLE TO MEET.

THE NEXT MORNING, WE HAVE MARGARET ATWOOD AND IT CONTINUES ON FROM THERE.

I WILL LET MARK TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE WRITERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE, BUT I THINK TO HAVE THIS AMAZING GROUP OF WRITERS COMING AND WE ARE SHOWCASING SOME OF OUR WRITERS HERE THAT WE ALWAYS LOVE TO SEE BUT IT IS GOING TO BE AN AMAZING WEEKEND.

>>LORENE: IT IS, IT IS, SO HOW DID YOU POSSIBLY GET THESE PEOPLE, I MEAN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SANTA FE IS A LITERARY CENTER, IT'S A CULTURAL CENTER AND WE HAVE HAD AUTHORS COME.

LORD KNOWS I TRY TO INTERVIEW THEM WHENEVER THEY COME.

BUT WE HAVE NEVER IN MY EXPERIENCE, IN SOME 35 YEARS HERE, HAD A CONCENTRATION, A CONSTELLATION OF THESE PHENOMENAL SUPERSTARS OF LITERATURE ALTOGETHER IN PERSON FOR A WEEKEND.

SO TELL US WHO IS COMING AND HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THESE PEOPLE.

>>MARK: YEAH, WELL LET ME START WITH YOUR SECOND QUESTION.

I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THE REAL APPEAL, I THINK, FOR AUTHORS, SANTA FE, NORTHERN NEW MEXICO, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE, SANTA FE LOOMS LARGE IN MANY PEOPLE'S MINDS.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS A REAL ENERGY TO SANTA FE AND I ALSO THINK THAT SANTA FE HAS A GREAT LITERARY TRADITION.

WHICH SOME OF THEM WERE AWARE OF CERTAINLY OUR LOCAL AUTHORS, I MEAN WITH STORYTELLING IN SANTA FE AND IN NEW MEXICO IT GOES BACK CENTURIES.

THE ORAL TRADITIONS OF NATIVE AMERICAN AND HISPANO CULTURES, D.H. LAWRENCE, WILLA CATHER, DEATH COMES FOR THE ARCHBISHOP , ON UP, YOU KNOW TO THE PRESENT DAY.

SO THERE IS A TREMENDOUS LOCAL TALENT POOL OF REALLY GREAT AUTHORS AND, IN FACT, WE PROBABLY HAVE AT LEAST 50 PERCENT IN THE MIX OF AUTHORS WHO IS LOCAL/REGIONAL AS OPPOSED TO NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL.

BUT I THINK THE AUTHORS WHO REALLY RESPONDED TO ALSO TO NOT JUST COMING AND HELPING RECOGNIZE THAT SANTA FE IS NOT JUST RIGHTLY SO, OF COURSE, A VISUAL ARTS AND PERFORMANCE ARTS COMMUNITY, A REAL MECCA FOR THAT, BUT THAT THIS IS GREAT LITERARY TRADITION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR.

IT IS ALSO A TOWN OF PASSIONATE READERS, GREAT BOOKSTORES.

WE FELT LIKE THAT IF WE COULD BRING MORE ATTENTION TO THAT AND THEN BUILD THIS IN THE COMING YEARS AND DO AN INCREASINGLY DIVERSE ROBUST INTERNATIONAL EVENT, YOU KNOW, THEN WE WILL HAVE DONE SOMETHING GOOD FOR LIFE HERE.

WE ALSO FOUND THAT A LOT OF THE AUTHORS I THINK RESPONDED JUST AS THE TICKET BUYER FESTIVAL GOERS HAVE, YOU KNOW THAT WHAT A GREAT TIME TO GET TOGETHER BETWEEN THE PANDEMIC, UKRAINE, CLIMATE CRISIS, DIVIDED COUNTRY AND WORLD, THIS IDEA THAT MANY FOLKS HAVE I THINK COME TO FEEL LIKE MAYBE THEY WERE LIVING IN SOME KIND OF PERMANENT CRISIS AND TO BE ABLE TO BREAK OUT FROM THAT, COME TOGETHER THROUGH THIS FESTIVAL.

THIS IS A WAY TO COME TOGETHER, IN PERSON, CELEBRATE OUR SHARED HUMANITY OF VALUES, OUR CULTURES, AND KIND OF EXPLORE WHERE WE ARE ALL HEADED, I THINK HAD A REAL APPEAL FOR PEOPLE.

READING, AND TALKING ABOUT IDEAS AND THE MANY FOOD ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE AS PART OF THE FESTIVAL AS WELL IT BECOMES... >>LORENE: THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT, IT IS ALSO VERY UNUSUAL.

>>MARK: YES.

>>LORENE: I JUST WANT TO PUT THE ICING ON THE CAKE OF WHAT YOU HAVE JUST SAID BECAUSE ONE OF YOUR MOTTOS ABOUT THE LITERARY FESTIVAL WAS "STORIES SET US FREE."

>>MARK: YES.

>>LORENE: AND THE ISOLATION OF THE PANDEMIC, THE SOLITUDE, AND YET MANY PEOPLE TURNED TO READING BECAUSE THEY HAD TIME TO READ, THEY WEREN'T GOING ANYWHERE.

AND SO TO REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT READING AND WHAT BOOKS AND STORIES HAVE DONE FOR US IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO, I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE CLARE, EITHER ONE OF YOU, ABOUT WHY THIS FESTIVAL IS DIFFERENT, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS AND AS SOON AS I SAW IT I THOUGHT, OH NO, IT CAN'T BE.

ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE IN ONE WEEKEND, AND SO MANY LAYERS OF EVENTS.

SO MAYBE EITHER ONE OF YOU TALK ABOUT THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU PRESENT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE, THE CULINARY HINT THAT YOU GAVE US, THAT'S A WHOLE FESTIVAL IN AND OF ITSELF AND YET IT IS ONE THAT YOU HAVE GOT THE BEST OF THE BEST, SO TALK TO US.

>>CLARE: WELL IT IS INTERESTING.

WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF OTHER FESTIVALS AROUND THE WORLD ACTUALLY, AND JULIA LEONARD, WHO IS OUR OTHER CO-FOUNDER, WHO IS WONDERFUL AND A FOOD WRITER HERSELF AND A CHEF HAS BEEN LIVING IN LONDON HALF THE TIME.

THEY ARE MOVING HERE FULL TIME THIS SUMMER, WHICH IS EXCITING, BUT SHE WORKS ON A LOT OF LITERARY FESTIVALS IN THE UK AND THEY DO MIX THIS FOOD AND LITERARY POT TOGETHER AND IT REALLY MAKES IT WONDERFUL.

I MEAN FOR ONE, FOOD WRITING IS SO IMPORTANT AND YOU KNOW IT IS ALL ABOUT STORY AND THEN TO COME AROUND A TABLE AND DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, FOOD AND MEMORY AND TO EAT A MEAL FROM ONE OF YOUR HEROES WHO IS A CHEF.

WE HAVE BRYANT TERRY COMING WHO IS AMAZING AND HE IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HIS LATEST BOOK CALLED BLACK FOOD , AND TEN SPEED PRESS HAS GIVEN HIM A WHOLE IMPRINT TO PUBLISH PEOPLE OF COLOR IN FOOD, SO I THINK THAT WILL BE REALLY INTERESTING.

WE ALSO HAVE A NAVAJO CHEF WHO IS GOING TO BE HERE AND I THINK THAT WILL BE FANTASTIC.

>>MARK: FREDDIE BITSOIE, HE'S TERRIFIC.

>>CLARE: AND WE WILL ALSO BE DOING SOME FUN SIDE EVENTS CALLED TEQUILA TASTING WHICH IS GOING TO GO OVER TO SAIZON AND SEE WHAT STORY HE MIGHT TELL AROUND A TABLE WITH TEQUILA.

WE HAVE ASMA KHAN COMING FROM LONDON BUT SHE IS INDIAN AND DOES AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF WORK FOR WOMEN IN THE KITCHEN, WHICH MEANS SHE IS ALSO A VERY FAMOUS CHEF.

BUT SHE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF HER PHILANTHROPIC WORK THAT SHE DOES WITH WOMEN IN THE KITCHENS AND ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF TEA, WHICH IS A VERY INTERESTING MIX.

>>CLARE: VERY, YEAH.

>>MARK: VERY INTERESTING.

>>LORENE: THE BRITISH EMPIRE.

>>MARK: YEAH.

>>LORENE: A LOT OF HISTORY.

>>CLARE: SO I THINK THAT WILL BE VERY, VERY INTERESTING AND AN ISRAELI COUPLE, ALSO OUT OF LONDON, CALLED HONEY AND CO, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR OTHER AFTERNOON TEA.

AND THEN OUR OWN CHERYL JAMISON.

>>LORENE: OH, I LOVE HER.

>>CLARE: SHE IS SO GREAT.

SHE IS GOING TO DO ONE OUR SMALLEST EVENTS WHICH IS 15 PEOPLE DOING A WALK AND TALK WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO WALK OVER TO THE COOKING SCHOOL AND TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF CHILE HERE.

SO I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE THOSE FOOD EVENTS INTERSPERSED BETWEEN.

>>LORENE: WELL IN A WAY SHE IS EMBLEMATIC OF THIS FOOD SESSION BECAUSE HER SHOW IS CALLED EXCITED ABOUT FOOD .

>>CLARE: YES.

>>LORENE: AND NOBODY IS GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS CULINARY EVENT LIST WITHOUT ANY OF THEM REALLY ENDING UP EXCITED ABOUT FOOD.

>>CLARE: YEAH.

>>LORENE: AND WHAT IS AROUND THE TABLE?

>>CLARE: WELL WE ARE CALLING ALL OF OUR FOOD EVENTS AROUND THE TABLE BECAUSE SO MUCH STORYTELLING HAPPENS AROUND THE TABLE.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>MARK: FAMILIES COME TOGETHER, FRIENDS COME TOGETHER.

>>CLARE: MEMORIES ARE CREATED.

SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, FOOD FOR THOUGHT AS THEY SAY.

>>LORENE: YEAH, YEAH.

>>MARK: YEAH.

>>LORENE: ANOTHER UNDERSERVED, I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN THE WOMAN IN THE KITCHEN AS A POLITICAL THING, BUT ANOTHER UNDERSERVED AREA IS YOUTH.

I KNOW YOU ARE DOING A FREE POETRY SLAM FOR YOUTH AND TELL ME ABOUT STORY LADDER, WHICH ONE OF YOU, MARK, IS THIS YOUR BABY?

>>MARK: THIS IS REALLY MORE CLARE'S.

>>LORENE: GOOD.

>>MARK: BUT IT IS BASICALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH OTHER NONPROFITS IN TOWN.

NONPROFIT WITH EXPERTS INTO A LOT MORE ABOUT THE TEACHING OF WRITING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.

BUT TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM AROUND THAT, THAT WILL IDEALLY CONTINUE KIND OF THROUGH THE YEAR IN SOME FORMAT.

CLARE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF HOW IT'S BEING DONE.

>>CLARE: YEAH.

YOU KNOW THIS YEAR WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD MAKE IT A PILOT PROGRAM AND MAKE IT SMALL AND REALLY MEANINGFUL.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL MANAGER WHO IS WORKING ON THAT.

AND AS MARK SAID WHAT DAVE EGGERS GROUP GAVE US SOME VERY GOOD ADVICE WHEN WE SAID WE WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PROGRAM FOR YOUTH.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DO THIS, WE HAVE ALL THESE WONDERFUL NONPROFITS IN TOWN AND THEY SAID, FIRST OF ALL, JUST REMEMBER AT ALL TIMES YOU ARE NOT EDUCATORS SO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS ADD TO YOUR COMMUNITY LIKE WHAT DO THESE OTHER NONPROFITS NEED, WHAT DO TEACHERS NEED?

SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OUR WRITERS PRE-FESTIVAL AND DURING THE FESTIVAL THAT ARE MEETING WITH SOME HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND KIRSTIN VALDEZ QUADE IS ACTUALLY DOING A TWO-HOUR MASTER CLASS WITH KIDS FROM NEW MEXICO SCHOOL FOR THE ARTS.

FREDDIE IS DOING A WONDERFUL COOKING CLASS WITH A PROGRAM OUT OF SANTA FE HIGH, HAMPTON SIDES IS MEETING WITH A CLASS AND THEN WE ARE HAVING SOME CONNECTION OVER THE WEEKEND.

SANDRA CISNEROS IS DOING A WHOLE PROGRAM WITH THE SANTA FE LIBRARY AND THEY HAVE REALLY TAKEN THIS ON AND THEY ARE DOING PRE-PIZZA PARTIES TO READ ABOUT HER BOOKS, THEY HAVE GOTTEN LIKE 250 BOOKS FOR KIDS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND ON MONDAY, THEY WILL BE MEETING IN THE SOUTH SIDE LIBRARY WITH ORTIZ MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE NEW MEXICAN IS GOING TO FACILITATE IT BEING BROADCAST OUT TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THAT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF IT, BUT TO CONNECT THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH SOME OF THESE FAMOUS AUTHORS.

>>MARK: TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION ABOUT WHY AUTHORS WOULD COME TO THIS?

I THINK THE IDEA OF SPENDING TIME WITH KIDS AND HELPING ENCOURAGE THEM, REMEMBERING THE MENTORS AND THE PEOPLE WHO EVEN JUST GAVE STRAY WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT TO THEM OR ADVICE.

YOU KNOW THAT STILL RINGS LOUD IN EARS OF A LOT OF WRITERS, SO ANY CHANCE THAT THEY HAVE TO KIND OF GET TOGETHER WITH KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP WITH THAT.

THERE WILL BE A ROOM SET ASIDE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER WHERE THE FESTIVAL WILL BE HELD, WHERE STUDENTS WHO ARE PART OF THESE PROGRAMS CAN COME IN AND CHAT WITH THE AUTHORS AS WELL.

>>LORENE: WE ARE SPEAKING TODAY WITH MARK BRYANT AND CLARE HERTEL ABOUT THE SANTA FE LITERARY FESTIVAL, WHICH WILL BE IN SANTA FE MAY 20 TO 23 AT THE SANTA FE CONVENTION CENTER.

YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE, WHICH IS: >>CLARE: SFLITERARYFESTIVAL.ORG >>LORENE: GOOD, YOU CAN FIND OUT EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.

BUT I CUT YOU OFF, YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE YOUTH.

INSPIRING KIDS?

>>CLARE: YOU KNOW I THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW IN EVERY COMMUNITY BUT ESPECIALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY WHERE LITERACY RATES ARE DOWN AND THAT SORT OF THING, I THINK IT JUST MEANS A LOT TO THIS COMMUNITY TO HAVE KIDS HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET SOME OF THESE FAMOUS AUTHORS AND BE INSPIRED.

>>LORENE: AND HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE BEEN DOING EXTRA READING SINCE SCHOOL WAS SO MESSED UP DURING THE PANDEMIC.

AND SO IF THEY HAVE FOUND PERHAPS AN AUTHOR THAT WAS A LIFELINE FOR THEM AND THEY COULD MEET THAT AUTHOR, THAT'S THE INVESTMENT OF A LIFETIME.

>>CLARE: IT IS, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK WE ARE HOPING WILL HAPPEN AT THIS FESTIVAL.

LITTLE WORLDS THAT GO OFF AND INSPIRE PEOPLE TO READ MORE, TO CONNECT WITH FRIENDS MORE, TO SEE THEIR AUTHORS AND BE LIFTED UP AT THIS MOMENT WHEN THINGS FEEL DIFFICULT.

>>LORENE: SO WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS OF COURSE I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT, IT WAS SO WONDERFUL, BUT I WAS, I HAVE KNOWN YOU CLARE, FOR YEARS.

SO TELL ME A LITTLE, EACH OF YOU, ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND THAT MADE THIS, AND WHOSE IDEA WAS THIS, LET'S HAVE THE BEST LITERARY FESTIVAL EVER.

>>MARK: IT'S A FIRST YEAR.

THIS IS REALLY THE BRAINCHILD OF CLARE AND JULIA LEONARD, THEY ARE THE CO-FOUNDERS OF THE FESTIVAL.

I AM JUST ALONG FOR THE RIDE.

>>CLARE: HE HAS BEEN A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF IT.

BUT JULIA, YOU KNOW I WORKED ON A BOOK THAT SHE WROTE OVER A DECADE AGO AND THEY HAVE BEEN SPENDING SUMMERS HERE IN SANTA FE FOR DECADES, TOO.

>>MARK: AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING HERE FULL TIME.

>>CLARE: YEAH AND I LOVE TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AUTHORS FOREVER, AND MARK BEING IN PUBLISHING AND OVER MEALS AND WALKS WE KEPT COMING BACK TO, "WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO HAVE A LITERARY FESTIVAL THAT ALSO HAD FOOD WRITING INVOLVED IN IT."

AND YOU KNOW WE TALKED TO SO MANY PEOPLE WHO SAID, OH GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT HASN'T HAPPENED HERE YET, YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS A LONG WEEKEND, THAT'S FOCUSED ON BRINGING WRITERS IN AS WELL AS HAVING WRITERS HERE.

AND WE JUST GOT SO MUCH SUPPORT FROM IT, SO IN 2019, WE THOUGHT LET'S TRY TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND PEOPLE LIKE COLLECTED WORKS AND THE CITY AND NEW MEXICO WRITERS, AND YOU KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE HERE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE, WE DEFINITELY COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT IT BUT THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.

>>LORENE: WELL I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOUR CONNECTIONS.

>>CLARE: NO, NOT AT ALL.

>>LORENE: IN THE PUBLISHING WORLD, I MEAN MARGARET ATWOOD, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE GOT.

>>CLARE: YES, LET'S TALK ABOUT MARGARET ATWOOD.

>>MARK: YEAH, I MEAN WE ARE REALLY VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A NUMBER OF WRITERS WHO ARE REAL LITERARY LEGENDS, I SAID LITERARY NOT WITH A CAPITAL "L".

LITERARY SOUNDS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A PRETENTIOUS WORD.

>>LORENE: NO, UNIVERSAL LITERARY, YEAH.

>>MARK: YEAH, EXACTLY.

YOU KNOW THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY AT THE TOP OF THEIR GAME AND REPRESENT I THINK THE VERY BEST OF THE GENRES IN WHICH THEY WORK.

WHETHER THAT IS LITERARY FICTION, OR NARRATIVE NONFICTION, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM, MEMOIR, ESSAYS, POETRY, YOU KNOW, YOU NAME IT SPECULATIVE FICTION.

YOU KNOW IN TALKING ABOUT THEIR WORK IDEAS I THINK MANY OF THESE WRITERS WILL BE TALKING ABOUT A RANGE OF ISSUES, POLITICS, RACIAL, INCOME INEQUALITY, IMMIGRATION, HEALTH, CLIMATE AND OF COURSE, SUSTAINABILITY, BUT ALL THROUGH BY WAY OF GREAT STORYTELLING.

YOU KNOW I THINK THE BEST STORYTELLERS ULTIMATELY IS ABOUT OUR LIVES, YOU KNOW OUR VALUES, ABOUT HOW WE LIVE AND HOW WE WANT TO LIVE, SO I THINK IT WILL BE INSPIRING, YOU KNOW, FUN AND INSPIRING CONVERSATIONS.

YEAH, MARGARET ATWOOD, I MEAN SHE IS THE MASTER OF SPECULATIVE FICTION, POETRY, POWER FEMINISM, A WHOLE LOT MORE.

YOU KNOW, THE HANDMAID'S TALE, THE TESTAMENT, THE CAT'S EYE, ALIAS GRACE, I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH HER TO PUBLISH SOME WORK OF HERS IN THE PAST, AND YOU KNOW, HER NEW BOOK IS THE ESSAY COLLECTION BURNING QUESTIONS , WHICH I BELIEVE COMES WITH THE TICKETS.

AND IT IS A TERRIFIC BOOK, SHE IS A MARVEL.

>>LORENE: ABSOLUTELY ONE OF MY FAVORITES.

I HAVE INTERVIEWED HER BEFORE FOR WHICH I READ 14 OF HER BOOKS BECAUSE I LOVE HER WRITING.

ORYX AND CRAKE WAS MY FAVORITE.

>>MARK: OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, SURE.

>>LORENE: BUT I JUST LOVE HER.

SO TO SEE THAT SHE WILL BE HERE AND SHE IS SUCH A BRIGHT SPIRIT AND GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR AND CHARMING, CHARMING.

WHO ELSE IS COMING?

>>CLARE: JOHN GRISHAM ON SATURDAY NIGHT WITH HIS FRIEND HAMPTON SIDES.

THAT SHOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING.

>>MARK: ONE OF OUR LOCAL STARS, HAMPTON SIDES, OF COURSE, THE NARRATIVE HISTORIAN AND JOHN GRISHAM OF COURSE IS THE MASTER OF THE MODERN LEGAL THRILLER.

>>LORENE: ABSOLUTELY.

>>MARK: HE PRETTY MUCH INVENTED IT.

>>CLARE: YEAH.

>>MARK: IT IS INCREDIBLE.

HE ALSO DOES A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING WORK WITH THE INNOCENCE PROJECT.

>>LORENE: OH GOOD.

>>MARK: SO I KNOW THEY WILL HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, THAT WILL BE SATURDAY EVENING.

AND SUNDAY EVENING IS JOY HARJO AND SANDRA CISNEROS TALKING.

>>LORENE: TELL THEIR CONNECTION, I LOVE THIS.

>>CLARE: YES.

>>MARK: SANDRA AND JOY HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS.

THEY MET AT THE IOWA WRITERS WORKSHOP AND HAVE BEEN GOOD FRIENDS EVER SINCE AND THEY WILL BE IN CONVERSATIONS SUNDAY EVENING TALKING ABOUT OBVIOUSLY THEIR LONG FRIENDSHIP, THEIR WORK AND HOW THAT'S EVOLVED.

YOU KNOW, THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE STATE OF THE WORLD.

I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A REALLY SPECIAL EVENING.

>>LORENE: I THINK SO, TOO, BECAUSE AS THEY GOT TO WATCH EACH OTHER'S CAREER AND MIRROR EACH OTHER'S CAREER.

THAT THEY DID SO WELL AND ROSE TO THE TOP OF THEIR FIELD.

>>CLARE: YEAH.

>>MARK: THEY ARE REAL LEGENDS, THEY ARE ICONS IN THEIR WAY, EACH OF THEM AND THEY HAVE DONE A LOT FOR A KIND OF AMERICAN LETTERS IN GENERAL.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>MARK: BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, FOR HISPANIC AND NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITIES, THE LITERATURE IN THAT, TOO.

THEY ARE REAL GIANTS AND LOVELY, LOVELY PEOPLE.

>>LORENE: ABSOLUTELY.

>>CLARE: YES.

>>LORENE: ABSOLUTELY, YOU ALSO HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS PEOPLE, JOURNALISTS, NONFICTION.

>>CLARE: YES.

>>LORENE: I MEAN SOME OF THE LEADING LIGHTS RIGHT NOW.

>>CLARE: YEAH, LAWRENCE WRIGHT.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

WHAT HAS HE WRITTEN?

>>MARK: YEAH HE'S A NEW YORKER STAFF WRITER AND I WOULD GO SO FAR AS TO ARGUE HE IS KIND OF THE MASTER NARRATIVE, NONFICTION WRITER OF THE MOMENT.

YOU KNOW, HE TAKES ON THESE BIG PANORAMIC TOPICS, 9/11 AND THE WAR AGAINST TERROR IN A BOOK CALLED THE LOOMING TOWER, ANOTHER CALLED THE TERROR YEARS .

HE TOOK ON THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY IN A BOOK CALLED GOING CLEAR .

HE WROTE A GREAT BOOK ABOUT TEXAS CALLED GOD SAVE TEXAS I BELIEVE IT IS CALLED.

BUT ALSO HE WROTE A BOOK THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN MARCH 2019 JUST AS COVID WAS REACHING THE STATES CALLED THE END OF OCTOBER .

>>CLARE: YES.

>>MARK: WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLY PRESCIENT BOOK.

WE HAVE GOT SOME OTHER AUTHORS WHO WERE ALSO EERILY PRESCIENT ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THEN HE WROTE A BOOK LAST YEAR 2021 CALLED THE PLAGUE YEAR , WHICH WAS A GREAT NONFICTION ACCOUNT OF THE PANDEMIC'S ORIGINS, YOU KNOW THE SWEEPING REPERCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW THE CONTINUOUS STRUGGLE TO CONTAIN IT.

SO HE IS REALLY ON TOP OF A LOT OF THINGS AND WRITES BEAUTIFULLY AND VERY ARTICULATE, VERY ENTERTAINING AUTHOR.

ALSO JON KRAKAUER, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, ADVENTURE WRITER, YOU KNOW INTO THIN AIR, INTO THE WILD, MISSOULA, UNDER THE BANNER OF HEAVEN .

>>LORENE: WHICH JUST OPENED ON HULU.

>>MARK: WHICH JUST OPENED ON HULU.

>>LORENE: ABOUT THE MORMON TRAGEDY.

>>MARK: YEAH.

I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH HIM OVER MOST OF OUR CAREERS TOGETHER.

WE WILL BE TALKING SUNDAY AFTERNOON ABOUT HIS WORK.

THE LATEST CHALLENGES TO JOURNALISM AND YOU KNOW THE CHALLENGES TO FACTS AND TRUTH AND REALITY THESE DAYS, YOU KNOW DISINFORMATION AND ALL OF THAT.

IT IS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE SORT OF GOING AS A COUNTRY AND AS A WORLD.

ANOTHER REALLY GOOD NONFICTION AUTHOR IS PHIL KLAY, HE IS ACTUALLY FICTION AND NONFICTION.

HE IS A FORMER MARINE, THE AUTHOR OF RE-DEPLOYMENT, WHICH WON THE NATIONAL BOOK AWARD FOR FICTION.

A BOOK CALLED MISSIONARIES AND THEN HE HAS GOT A NEW COLLECTION THAT I THINK IS PRETTY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

IT IS ABOUT TO COME OUT CALLED UNCERTAIN GROUNDS: CITIZENSHIP IN THE AGE OF ENDLESS, INVISIBLE WAR .

HE WILL BE IN CONVERSATION WITH BOB SHACOCHIS, WHO SPENDS PART OF THE YEAR HERE AND LIVES OFF THE HIGH ROAD JUST BEYOND OJO SARCO AND HE IS ALSO A NATIONAL BOOK AWARD WINNER AN EXCEPTIONAL NONFICTION WRITER AND NOVELIST.

SO THE TWO OF THEM WILL HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

>>CLARE: A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

>>MARK: SO A LOT OF GREAT NONFICTION AUTHORS AND JOURNALISTS AS WELL AS YOU KNOW.

>>LORENE: SO YOU REALLY HAVE, I MEAN THIS IS A STATEWIDE EVENT.

YOU KNOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN EVERY GENRE OF LITERATURE AND THE CREAM OF THE CROP HERE IN PERSON.

>>CLARE: YES.

WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE EMILY ST. JOHN MANDEL, TOO.

>>LORENE: OH YES, STATION ELEVEN .

>>CLARE: STATION ELEVEN .

>>LORENE: AND HER NEW ONE I HEAR IS EXTRAORDINARY.

>>MARK: SEA OF TRANQUILITY .

YEAH I JUST READ IT.

>>CLARE: IT IS ON ALL THE BEST YOU MUST READS THIS SUMMER.

I THINK HAVING HER COME, IT IS JUST SO EXCITING HOW IT ALL CAME TOGETHER AND YOU KNOW THIS LIST, I THINK SPEAKS TO YOU KNOW HOW THESE PEOPLE, THESE WRITERS WANT TO GET TOGETHER, TOO, AND GET BACK OUT INTO THE WORLD.

I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A REAL CELEBRATION FOR EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

WHO ELSE, ASHLEY FORD.

>>MARK: ASHELY FORD.

SHE WROTE AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL, BEAUTIFUL MEMOIR CALLED SOMEBODY'S DAUGHTER WHICH WAS A BIG HIT LAST YEAR.

OPRAH LOVED IT, MADE A BIG DEAL OF IT AND KIND OF REALLY BECAME A BESTSELLER, WONDERFUL PERSON.

INCREDIBLE STORY.

HER RELATIONSHIP WITH HER FATHER IN PARTICULAR AND REALLY, REALLY POWERFUL BOOK.

VALERIA LUISELLI WRITES BOTH FICTION AND NONFICTION, SHE IS AN INCREDIBLY GOOD GUN.

>>LORENE: NO, NO, NO, I AM JUST REMEMBERING SHE IS ON MY MUST READ LIST.

>>CLARE: YEAH.

>>MARK: YEAH, SHE IS GREAT..

I MEAN LOST CHILDREN ARCHIVE , AN ESSAY IN 40 QUESTIONS, A TERRIFIC BOOK.

SHE WRITES ABOUT A RANGE OF CONTEMPORARY ISSUES.

SHE IS A MEXICAN AUTHOR LIVING IN NEW YORK, YOU KNOW SHE IS ESPECIALLY FOCUSED ON BORDER ISSUES, IMMIGRATION, SOCIAL JUSTICE, CRIMINAL JUSTICE ISSUES, I THINK SANTA FE WILL REALLY LOVE AND ADMIRE HER.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, MANY OF THESE AUTHORS ARE BIG NAMES, OTHERS IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING.

WE THINK THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.

>>LORENE: AND WE ONLY HAVE A MINUTE LEFT.

>>CLARE: OH MY GOODNESS.

>>LORENE: SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO INVITE THE READING PUBLIC AND OTHER AUTHORS.

>>CLARE: YES.

>>LORENE: TO YOUR FESTIVAL.

>>CLARE: WELL ONE THING WE SHOULD SAY IS THIS YEAR WE ARE ABLE TO DO A NEW MEXICO RESIDENT DISCOUNT SO THAT IS NMRESIDENT AS THE CODE.

>>LORENE: THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

>>CLARE: I KNOW WE CAN'T DO NUMBERS YET.

>>LORENE: STUDENTS.

>>CLARE: AND STUDENTS.

THERE IS A REALLY GOOD STUDENT DISCOUNT AND THAT IS NMSTUDENT.

AND THE OTHER THING WE WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT MONDAY, WE ARE CALLING LITERARY DAY TRIPS.

>>LORENE: YES.

>>CLARE: AND WE WILL HAVE A WHOLE LIST ON THE WEBSITE OF WONDERFUL COMMUNITY LITERARY EVENTS GOING ON AND THEN THERE ARE THESE FULL DAY TRIPS THAT HAVE A FEE ATTACHED TO THEM THAT ONE IN LOS POBLANOS ON REGENERATIVE FARMING AND DEBORAH MADISON IS GOING TO BE AT THAT ONE, THAT WILL BE SMALL, ALL OF THESE ARE NOT MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE.

ONE AT SAR AND IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO SAR.

>>LORENE: SCHOOL FOR ADVANCED RESEARCH.

>>CLARE: IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

>>LORENE: WELL THEY CAN FIND ALL ABOUT THESE ON YOUR WEBSITE.

I AM SO GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR COMING.

OUR GUESTS TODAY ARE CLARE HERTEL AND MARK BRYANT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING TO SANTA FE THIS EXTRAORDINARY EVENT, THE SANTA FE LITERARY FESTIVAL, MAY 20 TO 23.

YOU'LL SEE ME AT ALL OF THE EVENTS.

>>MARK: I HOPE WE DO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>CLARE: THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>>LORENE: YOU ARE WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STATE THIS GIFT.

>>CLARE: YEAH, IT IS OUR PLEASURE.

>>LORENE: AND I AM LORENE MILLS, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU OUR AUDIENCE FOR BEING WITH US TODAY ON REPORT FROM SANTA FE .

REPORT FROM SANTA FE IS MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY GRANTS FROM THE NEW MEXICO MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, A BETTER NEW MEXICO THROUGH BETTER CITIES AND FROM