
Colon Cancer Awareness, Solar Tomorrows, Phoenix Chorale
Season 2023 Episode 58 | 27m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Colon Cancer Awareness, Solar Tomorrows Fellowship, Phoenix Chorale Art Museum
A look at a new report regarding the diagnosis of colon cancer at younger ages, ASU's center for Science and the Imagination and Center for Energy and Society announce the Solar Tomorrows fellowship, and the Phoenix Chorale brings a multi-sensory event to the Phoenix Art Museum this weekend.
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Colon Cancer Awareness, Solar Tomorrows, Phoenix Chorale
Season 2023 Episode 58 | 27m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
A look at a new report regarding the diagnosis of colon cancer at younger ages, ASU's center for Science and the Imagination and Center for Energy and Society announce the Solar Tomorrows fellowship, and the Phoenix Chorale brings a multi-sensory event to the Phoenix Art Museum this weekend.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," EFFORTS TO FIND OUT WHY COLON CANCER IS INCREASINGLY DIAGNOSED IN YOUNGER ADULTS.
ALSO TONIGHT, THE POSSIBLE CULTURAL AND SOCIETAL IMPACTS OF A WORLD POWERED ENTIRELY BY SOLAR ENERGY.
A SENSORY EVENT TO THE MUSEUM AND THAT'S NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."
>> Announcer: MADE POSSIBLE FROM THE FRIENDS OF PBS, MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION.
THANK YOU.
>> Ted: WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
I'M TED SIMONS.
A COUPLE OF STATE SUPREME COURT ACTIONS HAVE NOTED THAT THE HIGH COURT DECLINED SIX OF THE SEVEN CLAIMS THAT LOSING GUBERNATORIAL CLAIMS KARI LAKE FILED AND THE JUSTICES FOUND NO REASON TO REVIEW LOWER COURT DECISIONS OF THE CLAIMS REGARDING PRINTER ISSUES AT POLLING PLACES, AND SHE ADDED 35 AND ONE OF THE CLAIMS OF THE VERIFICATION PROCESSES HAD BEEN IMPROPERLY DISMISSED.
THAT CLAIM WAS SENT BACK TO TRIAL COURT.
THE SUPREME COURT RULED LATE YESTERDAY IN FAVOR OF GOVERNOR HOBBS IN DECIDING THE GOVERNOR IS NOT OBLIGATED TO CARRY OUT THIS ON DEATH ROW, AND IT'S NOT THE ROLE OF THE COURT TO CARRY OUT THE EXECUTION.
THAT THE GOVERNOR IS NOT MANDATED TO ABILITY ON THE WARRANT.
THEY HAVE PAUSED EXECUTIONS IN THE STATE IN ORDER TO REVIEW ARIZONA'S EXECUTION PROCESS.
>>> NO INDICTMENTS OF FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, THAT HE PAID HUSH MONEY TO A PORN STAR.
THEY DIDN'T MEET TODAY AND LIKELY NOT TOMORROW.
WHICH MEANS ANY INDICTMENT BEFORE NEXT WEEK AND TRUMP INACCURATELY PREDICTED HE WOULD BE ARRESTED LAST TUESDAY AND TODAY, HE CALLED THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY, QUOTE, HUMAN SCUM.
HUMANS ON CAPITOL HILL WITH TIKTOK AND THE PRIVACY AND TIES TO CHINA.
THE CEO TESTIFIED THAT THOSE CONCERNS ARE MISPLACED AND THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AREN'T BUYING IT.
>> OUR APPROACH HAS NEVER BEEN TO DISMISS OR TRIVIALIZED ANY CONCERNS.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, AMERICAN DATA STORED ON AMERICAN SOIL, BY AN AMERICAN COMPANY, OVERSEEN BY AMERICAN PERSONNEL.
WE CALL THIS INITIATIVE PROJECT TEXAS.
>> WE DO NOT TRUST TIKTOK WILL EVER EMBRACE AMERICAN RIGHTS AND INNOVATION.
TICKTIKTOK HAS CHOSEN MORE CONTROL AND MANIPULATIONS.
YOUR PLATFORM SHOULD BE BANNED.
>> Ted: CHINA SAYS ANY ATTEMPTS TO FORCE THE SALE OF TIKTOK WILL BE, QUOTE, FIRMLY OPPOSED.
>>> ADULTS ARE DIAGNOSED WITH COLON AND RECTAL CANCERS AT YOUNGER AGES WITH ONE IN FIVE NEW CASES NOW REPORTED AMONG THOSE IN THEIR EARLY 50s OR YOUNGER.
TO HELP FIND OUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING, WE WELCOME DR. MICHAEL CHOTI AND DOCTOR, GOOD TO HAVE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THIS DIAGNOSIS AT YOUNGER AGES, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
>> GOOD YES, QUESTION, TED, WE DON'T KNOW.
WE'RE DETECTING IT EARLY AND THE INCIDENTS IS OCCUR AN MORE IN YOUNGER PATIENTS.
>> Ted: WAS THERE A POINT THIS TIME WE NOTICED THIS OR MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WASN'T EVEN LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE PEOPLE NEVER THOUGHT TO HOOK AT LOOK AT PEOPLE THAT YOUNG IN.
>> THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM THAT IT WAS A DISEASE OF OLDER INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE KNEW IT WAS A POSSIBILITY.
IT WAS MORE COMMON IN HEREDITARY AND HIGHER RISK INDIVIDUALS.
THE INCIDENTS SEEMS TO BE GOING DOWN GRADUALLY OVER TIME AND NOTHING SPECIFIC.
IS IT DIET, LIFESTYLE AND NOTHING HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY LINKED TO THIS TREND.
TED >> Ted: AS FAR AS, AGAIN, INCREASES, COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT YOUNGER PEOPLE JUST IN GENERAL WERE GETTING TESTED MORE OFTEN?
>> IT'S MORE THAN JUST THAT.
IT IS THE INCIDENTS ARE GOING UP.
THE SCREENS GUIDELINES ARE REDUCED, IN PART, RETTED RELATED TO THAT.
IT'S EP EP DEEM LOGICALLY DIAGNOSED EARLIER IN YOUNGER PATIENTS.
>> Ted: SEEING MORE ADVANCED STAGES?
>> NO, THE STAGE, HOPEFULLY, IT'S CAUGHT EARLY, BUT IT CAN BE SOMETIMES A CONCERN IN A YOUNGER PATIENT, AS WE'LL TALK ABOUT BECAUSE SCREENING IN ASYMPTOMATIC INDIVIDUALS IS THE WAY TO DIAGNOSIS AND THE MOST COMMON WAY COLORECTAL CANCER IS DIAGNOSED AND VACCINING SCREENING IS NOT RECOMMENDED UNTIL OLDER.
THE YOUNG PATIENT WHERE THEY DON'T GET SCREENING TESTED AND DEVELOPED SYSTEMS.
YOUNG PATIENTS, THE SYMPTOMS THAT COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH COLORECTAL CANCER ARE COMMON AND CAN BE BENIGN AND THAT YOUNG PATIENT THAT MAY DELAY SEEKING MEDICAL ATTENTION AND DIAGNOSIS, IN PART, BECAUSE THEY DON'T ANTICIPATE THEY HAVE IT.
SAYING IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT CLEAR, THAT YOUNG PATIENTS PRESENT AT A MORE ADVANCED STAGE THAN OLDER PATIENTS.
IT REALLY MAY DEPEND AND NO CLEAR DATA TO SAY, MORE LIKELY TO HAVE ADVANCED DISEASE THAN YOUNG PATIENTS.
EARLY RECOGNITION WILL DIAGNOSIS EARLIER.
>> Ted: AS FAR AS DEMOGRAPHICS, SEEING MORE IN HISPANIC YOUNG ADULTS AND WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
>> AGAIN, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF THE EPIDEMIOLOGY, BUT WE'RE FINDING THAT CASE AND THERE'S DIFFERENCES IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF BOTH ETHNICITY AND ALL SECTORS.
SEEMINGLY AT LEAST STATISTICS SUGGEST IN THIS PARTICULAR GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, WE'RE SEEING THAT AND SEEING THAT IN ARIZONA, AS WELL.
>> Ted: YOU REFERRED TO THIS EARLIER, AND I WANT A BETTER ANSWER AND I THINK ALL OF US WOULD THINK ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS WOULD PLAY A SMALL, IF NOT REMOTE PART.
CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT, THOUGH, CAN YOU?
>> I MEAN, THERE'S SUGGESTIONS OVERALL, BUT NOT AS AN EXPLANATION FOR THIS CHANGE IN AGE DEM GRAPH DEMOGRAPHICS.
THERE'S ASSOCIATIONS WITH DIET AND WITH CERTAIN DIETS THAT MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH, LET'S SAY, A HIGHER RED MEAT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND LOWER FIBER DIETS AND SO FORTH AND SOMEWHAT HIGHER ASSOCIATION.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN AND STILL, I THINK STILL CORRELATION RELATED THAT.
IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY ATTRIBUTED TO WHY THIS IS OCCURRING IN A YOUNGER AGE GROUP.
>> Ted: CHEMICALS, PESTICIDES, SOIL OR THE FOOD WE EAT AND DON'T KNOW THAT, DO WE?
NOT REALLY CLEARLY IDENTIFIED.
THE IDEA OF LIFESTYLE, DIET AND EXERCISE, WEIGHT GAIN AND THESE THINGS, ANY FACTOR AT ALL?
>> THERE ARE SOME DATA TO SUGGEST LIFESTYLE AND EXERCISE AND LOWER INCIDENTS, BUT AGAIN, SUBTLE, OFTEN COFACTORS RELATED TO THAT.
THAT'S DIFFICULT TO REALLY TELL.
>> Ted: HOW ABOUT GENETICS.
>> THAT WE DO KNOW.
HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS AND CLEAR HEREDITARY AND GENETIC MUTATIONS ARE KNOWN AND CLEARLY INCIDENTS NOT ONLY IN COLORECTAL BUT OTHERS AND THAT MAKES UP A RELATIVELY SUBSET OF PATIENTS.
THE THOSE WHOTHOSE WHO HAVE A FAMILY HISTORY, A FIRST-DEGREE RELATIVE, A PARENT, A SIBLING, FOR EXAMPLE, NO QUESTION, HIGHER INCIDENCE AND ASSOCIATED AT A YOUNGER AGE, AS WELL.
SO NO QUESTION THAT HEREDITARY SYNDROMES AND FAMILY HISTORY AND SOMETIMES OTHER MALIGNANCIES CAN INCREASE THE PROBABILITY OF HAVING COLON CANCER AND OF HAVING IT AT A YOUNGER AGE.
>> Ted: WITH ALL OF THIS, THE RECOMMENDATION HAS DROPPED TO 45 FOR FIRST SCREENINGS?
>> FOR THE AVERAGE RISK, YES.
>> Ted: DEFINE AVERAGE RISK.
>> NO FAMILY HISTORY, NO HERD HEREDITARY AND THE MAJORITY OF PATIENTS AND THE MAJORITY OF PATIENTS ARE THOSE AT AVERAGE RISK.
AND YES, GUIDELINES HAVE BEEN CHANGED FROM 50, STARTING ROUTINE SCREENING TO 45.
>> Ted: AND REAL QUICKLY, THOSE AT-RISK EVEN YOUNGER.
>> DEPENDS AND TYPICALLY WE RECOMMEND AND IF YOU HAVE A FIRST-DEGREE RELATIVE THAT HAD COLORECTAL CANCER DIAGNOSED AT AGE 40, WE MAY RECOMMEND SOMETIMES FIVE OR TEN YEARS PRIOR TO THE AGE OF A FIRST.
SO ABSOLUTELY.
OR SEEN SOME CONDITIONS OF HEREDITARY COLORECTAL CANCER WHERE NOT GETTING TOO MANY DETAILS WHERE THEY'RE SCREENING AND/OR DIAGNOSIS CAN BE DONE GENETICALLY IN THE TEENAGE YEARS, SOME SELECTED CASES, UNCOMMON, IN WHICH THE COLON MAY BE REMOVED PRO PRO PROPHYLACTICALLY.
>> Ted: AND NEXT, A WORD POWERED ENTIRELILY SOLAR ENERGY.
>> A NEW ASU PROJECT CALLED "SOLAR TOMORROWS" TAKES AN IMAGINATIVE APPROACH LOOKING AT THE FUTURE IMPLICATIONS OF A WORLD POWERED BY SOLAR ENERGY, ENTIRELILY SOLAR ENERGY.
WE WELCOME CLARK MILLER AND DR. RUTH WILEY FOR SCIENCE AND IMAGINATION.
THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING STUFF AND RUTH, GIVE ME A BETTER DEFINITION OF SOLAR TOMORROWS.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENS IN A WORLD THAT IS NOT BASED ON CARBON AND DOING THAT IN A WAY THAT BRINGS TOGETHER NOT ONLY THE TECHNICAL SIDES, BUT THE SOCIAL SIDES AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT IS AN ARTISTIC REPRESENTATIONS OF THOSE WORLD.
>> Ted: HOW DO YOU PROTECT THE PANELS?
FROM STRUCTURALLY TO THE IMAGINATION, RIGHT?
>> LOOKING AT A WORLD IN WHICH SOLAR IS 10% OF OUR ENERGY SUPPLY HERE IN ARIZONA AND GROWING RAPIDLY AND WE HAVE MORE SOLAR IN TERMS OF CAPACITY THAN WE DO NUCLEAR IN THIS STATE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A GIANT NUCLEAR POWER PLANT OUT WEST IN TOWN.
IT'S GROWING RAPIDLY.
WE'LL DOUBLE IT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WE HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHERE ARE WE PUTTING SOLAR PANELS AND WHO WILL OWN THE SOLAR PANELS?
HOW WILL IT AFFECT OUR ECONOMICS AND CULTURE AND ALL OF THIS?
>> Ted: AFFECTING THE CULTURE IS INTERESTING BECAUSE LIVES WILL CHANGE.
I MEAN, ONE HUNDRED YEARS, THEY LOOK BACK AND THAT WAS A WEIRD WAY TO LIVE, HUH?
THAT'S WHAT'S EXPLORED THE TWO COLLECTIONS.
SCIENCE FICTION AND WEIRD ARTS AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WE REFLECT ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE.
SO WE BRING TOGETHER THE TECHNICAL GROUNDING COMBINED WITH THE ART TO IMAGINE WHAT THESE FUTURES WILL BE LIKE.
>> Ted: TALKING VALUES AND MARKETS AND CULTURE AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
>> UH-HUH.
>> Ted: GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT AND IMAGINED.
>> INTERESTINGLY, ELECTRICITY HAS DONE THIS TO US ONCE.
WE USED TO LIVE IN EGREATERRAN SOCIETY.
WE LIVED DAY AND NIGHT DIFFERENT LIVES AND ELECTRICITY COMES IN AND WE GET NIGHTTIME LIGHT SHOWS, LIT UP DOWNTOWN AREAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO SHOPPING AFTER WORK.
WE GET NIGHTTIME TELEVISION, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND SO WE GET ALL OF THESE CULTURAL TRANSFORMATIONS THAT HAPPEN.
THE FIRST TV AND RADIO CHANNELS WERE GENERAL ELECTRIC.
THE ELECTRICITY COMPANY WAS MAKING TV AND RADIO.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD, IT'S ABOUT THINKING HOW THIS CHANGES AGAIN, RIGHT?
SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE A LIFE IN WHICH YOUR ENERGY USE IS CONCENTRATED IN THE DAYTIME?
THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF FREE SOLAR ELECTRONS?
YOU MOVE THE ENERGY INTENSIVE PERIODS OF UNIVERSITY LIFE INTO THE DAY AND WE RELAX AT NIGHT OR OTHER KIND OF LOWER ENERGY KINDS OF ACTIVITIES.
>> Ted: GOING BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WORK IN SOME RESPECTS.
WHAT'S A HACK-A-THON?
>> TELLING VISIONS OF THE FUTURE, WE DON'T WANT TO RELY ON ONE PERSON.
WE WANT TO BRING TOGETHER MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM TO EXPLORE THIS.
WE CALL THIS A CREATIVE HACK-A-THON OR USING A TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE FICTION AUTHORS AND GRAPHIC AUTHORS TO BRING IN CREATIVE ELEMENTS AND WE BRING THESE PEOPLE TOGETHER TO DO WORLD BUILDING AND CREATIVE THINKING AND THEN AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE PUT TOGETHER COLLECTIONS.
>> Ted: PEOPLE CENTERED STORIES MORE THAN TECH CENTERED?
>> THE TECHNOLOGY IS AN INTERESTING COMPONENT, BUT AT THE CORE, STORIES ARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND HOW THEY RESPOND AND SO WE CAN INTRODUCE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES AND THEN SEE HOW PIPE MIGHT ADAPT AND THE REACTIONS TO THEM IN THESE NOVELS.
>> Ted: SOME WILL ADAPT AND SOME WON'T.
THERE WILL BE WINNERS AND LOSERS AND HOW DO WE FIGURE THAT OUT?
>> WE LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS MOST ENGINEERING THINKING ABOUT ENERGY, APPROACHING IT FROM WHICH TECHNOLOGY?
ARE WE GOING TO USE COAL OR SOLAR?
OUR APPROACH IS TO SAY, HOW YOU WEVAE SOLAR PANEL CAN BE DONE DIFFERENTLY.
WE HAVE CHOICES OF WHAT THE FUTURE WILL LOOK LIKE AND IF WE CAN MAKE THOSE REAL THROUGH THE STORIES, THEN IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO MAKE CHOOSES MORE INFORMED, MORE SMART.
>> Ted: AND I GUESS THE KEY HERE, LAST QUESTION FOR YOU IS THAT STILL EARLY IN THE PROCESS?
>> SO WE HAVE TWO COLLECTIONS THAT WE'VE PUT OUT AND THEN THE SUMMER, WE'RE LAUNCHING FELLOWSHIP AND THEY TAKE THIS AND CREATE MATERIALS FOR DIFFERENT POPULATIONS.
SO FORMAL EDUCATION, INFORMAL EDUCATION AND LIFELONG LEARNERS AND JOURNALISTS.
WE'RE LOOKING TO SPREAD THE WORD.
>> Ted: IT'S CALLED "SOLAR TOMORROWS."
INTERESTING DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Ted: THE PHOENIX CHORALE IS TEAMING UP WITH DIGITAL VISUAL ART ENHANCING THE MUSIC'S IMPACT TITLED MASS FOR THE ENDANGERED AND THE JOINS US IS CHRIS GA BECOME BITAS AND SARA KIRKLAND.
WHAT IS THIS.
>> IT'S A HUGE STALWART AND I'M NOT FROM ARIZONA, AS YOU CAN TELL FROM MY SILLY ACCENT.
THIS IS A HUGE JEWEL.
>> Ted: WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND PEOPLE ARE NEW AND DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS AND GIVES US A 30-THOUSAND FOOT VIEW.
>> WE PERFORM IN CHURCHES AND NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO GO THROUGH THE CHURCH TO HEAR MUSIC.
WE'RE NOT ABOUT THAT, BUT SHARING MUSIC OF EVERY KIND WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN BECAUSE WE THINK MUSIC IS A GREAT SOUNDTRACK FOR LIFE.
GOING TO THE ART MUSEUM, WE'RE IN A SECULAR SPACE AND WE CAN COMBINE WITH VISUALS AND WE CAN GIVE THE CITY SOMETHING WHICH IS GREAT.
>> Ted: IT'S A MASS OF SORTS AND TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.
IT'S A CATHEDRAL OF THE COSMOS AND WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
>> THE PIECE AS COMMISSIONED BY TRINITY WALL STREET IN NEW YORK, BUT THEY ASKED ME TO WRITE A MASS ON ANYTHING I WANTED.
WITH MY COLLABORATOR, WE DECIDED TO WRITE ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE DESTRUCTION OF THE PLANET SO WE DECIDED TO TABLE THE STRUCTURE OF THE CATHOLIC MASS AND CREATE A SECULAR PRAYER OUT OF IT.
WE'RE ADDRESSING MOTHER NATURE FOR FORGIVENESS AND MERCY.
>> Ted: WHEN YOU FIRST COMMISSIONED, COULD COULD YOU SEE AND HEAR -- I'M FASCINATED BY THE CREATIVE PROCESS.
DID YOU PUT YOUR NOSE DOWN AND GO?
>> THIS PIECE, I'M A SLOW COMPOSER AND I WROTE THIS QUICKLY.
I HAD A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC AND THAT NATANIEL'S WORDS WERE INTERESTING AND IT POURED OUT.
>> Ted: WE HAVE A CLIP HERE AND IF WE CAN PLAY THAT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
♪♪ ♪♪ >> Ted: THAT'S JUST A SMALL SNIPPET.
WHEN YOU COMPOSED, "YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, YOU SEE THIS AND WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> I WORKED INTENSELY WITH THE PERSON WHO CREATED THE VISUALS, DEBORAH JOHNSON, WE COLLABORATED WITH CARE AND CONSIDERATION AND IT'S THRILLING TO SEE IT AND TO SEE IT ON A SCREEN WITH THE CHOIR PERFORMING, IS THE MOST MAGICAL OF ALL.
IT'S MEANT TO BE HEARD LIVE WITH THE FULL CHOIR AND ORCHESTRA.
>> Ted: THIS IS AGE OLD MUSIC AND MUSIC THAT A LOT OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
AS YOU MENTIONED, A LOT IS CHURCH MUSIC AND AN ANTIQUITY AND TO SEE IT WITH THIS DIGITAL ART IS INTERESTING JUXTAPOSITION, IS IT NOT?
>> THAT'S WHAT THE ART MUSEUM SAW, AS WELL.
WE LIKE TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM, AS WELL.
IT'S ON A WALL AND TRY TO BRING IT TO LIFE AND ALL AROUND US AND IMMERSIVE IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORLD.
>> Ted: IS THIS A NEW WAY.
WE TALK ABOUT OPERA AND CLASSICAL MUSIC AND HOW DO YOU PRESENT YOURSELF AND IS THIS IS A NEW WAY TO GET OUT THERE?
>> IT IS.
IF FACT, IF YOU DO A GOOGLE SEARCH TO LOOK AT HITS IN SERIOUS TERMS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, PEOPLE ARE NOT SEARCHING FOR CHORA ALE AND REGULAR PERFORMANCES, THEY WANT TO BE LOOKING FOR A SPACE TO BE TAN TAKEN OUT OF THEMSELVES.
IT NEEDS TO WELCOME YOU INTO A SPACE WHERE YOU CAN ALWAYS FEEL BITTER SPACE AND A RANGE OF EMOTIONS AND TAP INTO YOUR REAL SELF AND FEELING REFRESHED LIKE YOU'RE ON A JOURNEY.
>> Ted: WERE YOU GOING BACK AND FORTH AND HOW DID THAT WORK?
>> HE WOULD WRITE TEXTS AND SEND IT TO ME AND I WOULD HAVE OTHER IDEAS AND ASK HIM TO CHANGE THE TEXT.
THERE WAS A BIT OF BACK AND FORTH.
WE WANTED TO GO FOR A RANGE OF EMOTIONS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF CELEBRATION IN THE PIECE AND A LOT OF LAMENTATION AND CONCERN AND PRAYERS THAT I MENTIONED AND WE WANTED TO CREATE THAT SINCE OF SENSE OF A JOURNEY.
>> Ted: WHAT SENSE HAVE YOU HAD?
>> AS A COMPOSER, YOU WANT TO GIVE A SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL WHAT THEY'RE FEELING AND HOW THEY RESPOND IS UP TO THEM.
I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAS INSPIRED TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN ACTIVISM AND THAT'S BEEN MOVING.
>> Ted: BEFORE WE GO, GIVE ME DATES.
>> TOMORROW, FRIDAY, THE 24th 24th AND SATURDAY THE 25th.
AND CAMELBACK BIBLE CHURCH ON SUNDAY IN THE AFTERNOON AND THAT'S PURIST.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY AND NEW PROJECTS AND INNOVATIVE SPACES.
>> Ted: IT SOUNDS FASCINATING.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE PERFORMANCE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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