Chicago Tonight: Black Voices
Community Reacts to Police Shooting That Killed Dexter Reed
Clip: 4/10/2024 | 11m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Authorities released body camera footage of the fatal shooting.
The footage of Chicago police officers firing 96 shots at Dexter Reed has caused outrage and demands for change — and accountability.
Problems playing video? | Closed Captioning Feedback
Problems playing video? | Closed Captioning Feedback
Chicago Tonight: Black Voices is a local public television program presented by WTTW
Chicago Tonight: Black Voices
Community Reacts to Police Shooting That Killed Dexter Reed
Clip: 4/10/2024 | 11m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
The footage of Chicago police officers firing 96 shots at Dexter Reed has caused outrage and demands for change — and accountability.
Problems playing video? | Closed Captioning Feedback
How to Watch Chicago Tonight: Black Voices
Chicago Tonight: Black Voices is available to stream on pbs.org and the free PBS App, available on iPhone, Apple TV, Android TV, Android smartphones, Amazon Fire TV, Amazon Fire Tablet, Roku, Samsung Smart TV, and Vizio.
Providing Support for PBS.org
Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> AS WE JUST HEARD THE RELEASE OF GRAPHIC VIDEO SHOWING THE FATAL SHOOTING OF DEXTER REID HAS RAISED QUESTIONS OVER THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE BY CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS.
THE FOOTAGE OF OFFICERS FIRING 96 SHOTS AT REID, INCLUDING AFTER HE EXITED THE CAR.
APPARENTLY AN ARMED HAS CAUSED OUTRAGE AND DEMANDS FOR CHANGE.
AND OF COURSE, ACCOUNTABILITY.
JOINING US NOW WITH MORE, OUR REVEREND JEANETTE WILSON SENIOR ADVISER, THE REVEREND JESSE JACKSON SENIOR AND REVEREND FREDERICK HAYNES, THE 3RD AT THE RAINBOW PUSH COALITION.
FRANK CHAPMAN, EXECUTIVE EDUCATIONAL DIRECTOR AND FIELD ORGANIZER AT THE CHICAGO ALLIANCE AGAINST RACIST AND POLITICAL REPRESSION.
AND JOINING US VIA ZOOM OR A HERE IN WINTERS, FOUNDER OF THE 4, 1, 1, MOVEMENT FOR PEER LOWERY AND A MEMBER OF THE 15 PLUS POLICE DISTRICTS COUNCIL AND REVEREND JOHN ABERCROMBIE SENIOR PASTOR AT ZOE LIFE MINISTRIES INTERNATIONAL AND PASTOR TO THE FAMILY OF DEXTER REED.
THANKS TO THE 4 OF YOU FOR JOINING US, REVEREND ALBERT KAHN.
GREAT WANT TO START WITH YOU, PLEASE.
WHAT WERE YOUR INITIAL REACTIONS UPON VIEWING THE VIDEO THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE FAMILY ON MONDAY RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC YESTERDAY.
>> WELL, ACTUALLY, IT WAS IT WAS SOMEWHAT SHOCKED.
BUT WITH THE FAMILY OF COLD, BUT WHEN YOU WATCH THE VIDEO BECAUSE IT WAS IS TO SEE WHAT TOOK PLACE AT THE SEEING HOW THE POLICE APPROACHED HAD THE WHOLE SELF.
I WAS JUST EXISTS.
VERY TRAUMATIC.
BEEN A DRAMATIC FOR THOUGHT THAT FOR THE MOTHER AND ONCE GET TO THE SHOTS AND HOW EVERYTHING TRANSPIRED.
WE WERE ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THE ANGLES AS IT PERTAINS TO THE SHOOTING AND WHAT HAS BUMP INTO POINT IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN AND THE NARRATIVE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN OR THERE TO THAT IS BIG CITY.
BUT THE PUBLIC IS NOT THE ACTION THAT SHOULD BE REALLY SEEM TO SEE ACTUAL SHOOTING WHEN HE GOT OUTSIDE OF THE AND THAT THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL THE ACTION MAY BE IN THE TAPE LIFT TOOK PLACE IN STATE OF THE.
>> GOVERNOR.
JUST WANT TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, AS YOU WERE SPEAKING, WE WERE SHOWING SOME OF DOORBELL CAMERA FOOTAGE OF WE'RE CAREFUL ABOUT REPEATEDLY SHOWING THE INSTANCE WHERE DEXTER WAS SHOT OUTSIDE THE CAR.
BUT YOU MENTIONED THE NARRATIVE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE FULL NARRATIVE.
WHAT MORE DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO SAID OR SEEN?
>> WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE SEEING WHAT YOU CAN TAKE ONE OF THE OFFICES WHO ACTUALLY SHOT WELL OVER 40 TIMES, THE OTHER 9 MILLIMETER PISTOL THAT DO 3 TIMES HIS VIDEO OF ONE OF THE PUT ONE OF THE CAMERAS YOU ABLE TO SEE THAT NO ONE THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FOOTAGE THAT'S BEEN SHOWN BY THE MEDIA IS IS WHERE THE SHOOTING TAKES PLACE.
WHEN THE OFFICER THAT THE OFFICER COMES TO THE CAR SHIP APPROACHED THE CAR AVOID THE WINDOW.
AND THE NEXT THING WE RAYS THE WINDOW.
YOU START JURGEN THE ANOTHER YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE THE FIRST SHOT THAT WAS ALLEGED THAT DEXTER RELEASED THEMSELF.
YOU CAN SEE THAT FOOTAGE AS WELL AFTER THAT, THEY BEGAN TO SHOOT AT THE NEXT AT THE SAME MAY BE THE FIRST 40 SHOTS.
THINK THERE WAS A THERE WAS A PAUSE AND THEN ACTION HE COMES OUT, THE GUNS OUT OF THE VEHICLE.
AT THAT POINT.
>> SORRY, REVEREND.
I THINK WE MAY HAVE.
WE MAY HAVE LOST ONE.
GUESS WHAT?
WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING HER BACK.
BUT WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING, I WANT TO GET TO.
REVEREND WILSON HERE IN STUDIO BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED ABOUT THE REASON FOR THE STOP IN THE FIRST PLACE BASED UPON, YOU KNOW WHAT WE KNOW AS OF NOW, WHAT ARE WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR BIGGEST QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT?
MOST PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME WHY DOES HE GET STOP?
THESE WERE NOT UNIFORM POLICE OFFICERS.
THEY WERE IN UNMARKED CAR.
THEY WERE IN PLAIN CLOTHES.
SHE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT THEY WILL POLICE OFFICERS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>> IT IS RARE TECH TOO.
WHAT DO A TRAFFIC STOP ABOUT A SEAT BELT THAT THEY COULDN'T SEE.
WHY DID THEY GO THROUGH SUCH A?
ACTIVITY?
THEY MOVE THE CAR AND SLUMPED TO BLOCK HIS FORWARD MOVEMENT.
WHAT WAS THAT ALL ABOUT?
THAT COULD BEEN ABOUT A SEAT BELT, THE CAR AND SO WANT TO KNOW WHY WAS ATTACKED TEAM THERE.
WHY DID THEY DECIDE TO TARGET HIM?
AND THEN HOW HOW MUCH FORCE DO YOU NEED TO STOP ONE MAN?
HOW MANY GUNSHOTS NEED TO BE FIRED IF YOU HAVE AND YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS WHO FIRED FIRST?
WE DON'T WE'RE NOT CLEAR.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND THE USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE, WHICH IS CLEAR FROM THE NUMBER OF SHOTS, GAVE RISE TO THAT?
AND THIS ALL TOO OFTEN.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THESE OFFICERS WERE IN PLAIN CLOTHES.
WANT TO CLARIFY OUR CURRENT AN UNMARKED CAR YESTERDAY.
I THINK WE REFER TO THEM AS UNDERCOVER AT ONE POINT, BUT THEY WERE PLAINCLOTHES OFFICERS THE COVER.
>> FRANK CIVILIAN OFFICE OF POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY IS INVESTIGATING THE SHOOTING.
AND WE HAD THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATOR OF THAT AGENCY ON THIS LAST NIGHT SAYING THAT SHE HAD DOUBTS ABOUT THE VERACITY OF THE OFFICERS BUT SHE ALSO SAYS THAT IT APPEARS REID FIRED FIRST.
AND OF COURSE, IT'S SOMEONE IN THAT POSITION WOULD NOT SAY THAT IF OF COURSE, THEY WERE NOT CONFIDENT IN CERTAIN THAT THAT WAS THE CASE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM COCA SO FAR?
>> I MAKE OF IT THERE MUST BE ANOTHER VIDEO.
VIDEO LASSO, THIS NOT CLEAR.
NOT IN THE GULF RATHER THAN VIDEO SOUL.
I DIDN'T REMAKING THE SHOT.
>> YOU CAN SEE FIRE.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOMEBODY ELSE SO THAT I WANT TO SEE THAT VIDEO BECAUSE HE'S NOT ON THE VIDEO THAT YOU KNEW WAS IT ON THE VIDEO TO THEY SAID THEY USED THE WORD.
UNCLEAR, CNN NEWS PEOPLE THAT WORK MOVES SAID THAT IT WAS UNCLEAR AS WRITTEN THAT YOU WHAT WAS CLEAR ME WAS.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THAT WHAT I DID SEE WAS THE POLICE OFFICERS SHOOTING.
>> YOU KNOW, WHEN AND ASKED AND I SAW HIM THAT'S WHAT I POLICE ALSO SAY THAT A WEAPON WAS FOUND IN THE CAR BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FROM THESE VIDEOS, NONE OF US CAN SEE INSIDE THE CAR.
UNDERSTAND I WANT YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING NOISE NUMBER OF THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T TRUST WITH THE POLICE SAY ABOUT THINGS.
>> BUT BEEN JUST THEY'VE BEEN DESIGNED IS IN THE PADS.
THEY'VE COVERED UP THE CRIMES, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, WANT TO PUT YOU GUYS REPORT FROM THE POLICE AND THAT'S YOU GET BECAUSE THE PERSON CAN ENTER THE BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF INVESTIGATION.
IN FACT.
>> THAT WAS A GUN IN THE CAR.
I DIDN'T HAVE WHAT BEEN FIRED.
THEY HAD TO BE SOME GUN RESIDUE AROUND.
I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN'T TELL FROM THE VIDEO.
WE CERTAINLY NOT LISTENING TO THE OFFICERS WHY WE'RE THERE FOR OFFICES AND THE FIRST FOR A TRAFFIC STOP.
AND YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, GUNSHOT RESIDUE.
OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT THAT GUN WAS FIRED IN THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION.
SO A LOT TO LEARN TO READ WHAT KAREN WINTERS WANT TO GET YOU IN HERE.
>> BECAUSE YOU WILL, AS WE KNOW, WE NEWLY ELECTED 15 POLICE DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER.
ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, HOPEFUL THAT THE CITY'S COMMISSION THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL AS YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE POLICE SEARCH DISTRICT COUNCILS WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD CPD ACCOUNTABLE PREVENT FUTURE INSTANCES LIKE THIS.
>> SO LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING IN THIS JUNCTURE.
I'M NOT.
SO WE'RE REPRESENTING AND I DON'T CONFLICT ANYTHING RIGHT?
OR DEAL WITH ANY POLITICS.
I'M I'M OPERATING LA MOVIE FOR FOUNDER BECAUSE MY GREAT NEPHEW WAS SHOT AND KILLED 16 IN 11TH DISTRICT.
I BELIEVE 11.
26 NEED TOMORROW.
THE 8 YEARS MY FAMILY AND ALSO I ALSO LEADING ORGANIZER WITH CROWD IN SAINT TO CREEK COALITION.
ARE DESPERATE CO-CHAIR FOR THE USE OF FORCE WORKING GROUPS.
SO WE HELP TO KIND REVISE FOR WE'VE MADE SOME ADDITIONS TO THEIR POLICY AND SOME SLIGHT CHANGES.
BUT 1, THING THAT THE POLICY SAY AS AN IDEA SEE HAPPEN AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON ANYTHING.
I'M A LAY PERSON, RIGHT?
I'M I'M I'M A COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
POLICE OFFICERS BEFORE THEY USE THAT THIS IS IN THE POLICY POLICE OFFICERS UPS ARE SUPPOSED TO IDENTIFY THEM BEFORE EXECUTE LEGAL LEGAL FORCE.
I DIDN'T HEAR THAT I CAN'T REALLY WATCH THE VIDEO FOR YOU.
JUST FOR BEING RE TRAUMATIZED.
THE ESCALATION IS WHERE PARTS WHEN THEY UP WHEN WHEN A VIDEO STARS, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY DE-ESCALATION TECHNIQUES.
EVERYTHING AFTER WAS ESCALATED.
SO THEY CREATED A CRITICAL SITUATION FOR YOUNG MAN.
PUT THEY COUNTY IN EXTREMELY VOLATILE, PROBABLY ACTION SITUATION.
SO I DON'T WANT TO START WITH WHAT HE'D I WANT US TO CONTINUE TO START WITH WHAT THEY IT.
WE ALWAYS PUT AN EMPHASIS ON INSIDE VICTIM AND THAT'S WHERE THE NARRATIVE ALWAYS BEGAN IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO WITH AT LEAST IN PART.
I WANT TO START WITH WHAT AD IT'S OF A HAVE POST A COUNTY AND HAVE A TALK WITH.
THEY HAD GUNS DRAWN AS YOUNG MAN IS IN HIS CAR WITH OFFICER'S WEAPON FOR OFFICES AROUND HIS CAR.
ALL THESE JOHNNY AND HE ADDED I DIDN'T HEAR THEM SAYING THING WE JUST PULLED OVER BECAUSE YOU ARE WEARING YOUR SEAT BELT AND AT THE TIME HE EXITED THE CAR WITH NO WEAPON IN HAND.
FIRING WAS SUPPOSED AND DESIST.
AND I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING THAT FROM THE POLICY.
THINK FROM A HUMAN THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO APPREHEND THAT YOUNG AND THAT HAND THAT EXIT I WANT TO SAY THIS REAL QUICKLY, 11 DISTRICT IS NOTORIOUS.
MY NEPHEW WAS KILLED IN 11TH DIST STRAIGHT ON MONDAY.
THE REGINAL PLAY WILL BE BACK AT 11.
THIS TO GET 5.30 FOR THE SAME REASON LAST YEAR THEY SHOT AND THEIR LOVED ONE.
IT WAS A YOUNG MAN AND SHORTLY AFTER MY NEPHEW DO WANT CHASE.
NO SHOT TO THE BACK THE RUNNING AT RABBIT.
FIND A YOUNG HAS MADE COULD BECAUSE I WANT TO LIFT HIS FAMILY.
FAMILY MADE IT TO GET AROUND BUT I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT CONDOLENCES.
YOU THE 8TH ANNIVERSARY FOR YOUR IN YOUR FAMILY FOR APPEAR LURIE TOMORROW.
BEFORE I LET YOU GO VERY BRIEFLY, REVEREND ABERCROMBIE, WHAT WITH THE FAMILY LIKE TO SEE?
>> NEXT IN THIS CASE?
>> WELL, THIS IS WHAT THE BAND IS REALLY AT FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S JUSTICE ACCOUNT FOR THAT CHANCE.
TRANSPARENCY.
WELL, THE AUTHORITIES BOB YOU THAT'S WHAT LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY YOU THE MOTHER AT THIS POINT REALLY NEEDS COUNSELING SHE'S TRAUMATIZED IT CERTAIN LEA, A TRAUMATIC SITUATION FOR EVERYONE AT VIDEO THAT IS DIFFICULT TO WATCH.
IT IS UNDERSTANDING FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CHOOSE NOT TO WATCH IT.
>> WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.
MY THANKS TO REVEREND JEANETTE WILSON, FRANK CHAPMAN, REVEREND JOHN ABERCROMBIE AND A RAINBOW KAREN WINTERS.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
NEXT, A CLOSER LOOK AT THE OFFICERS ACTIONS LEADING UP TO DEC STU REED KILLING.
STAY WITH US.
>> CHICAGO, TONIGHT'S COVERAGE
Examining Officers' Actions Leading Up to Dexter Reed's Death
Video has Closed Captions
Clip: 4/10/2024 | 8m 52s | Experts discuss what will be taken into consideration as the investigation continues. (8m 52s)
When Are Chicago Police Allowed to Use Force?
Video has Closed Captions
Clip: 4/10/2024 | 2m 54s | Body camera footage captured the fatal police shooting of 26-year-old Dexter Reed. (2m 54s)
Providing Support for PBS.org
Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship- News and Public Affairs
Top journalists deliver compelling original analysis of the hour's headlines.
- News and Public Affairs
FRONTLINE is investigative journalism that questions, explains and changes our world.
Support for PBS provided by:
Chicago Tonight: Black Voices is a local public television program presented by WTTW