>>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON:ARE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS BEING VIOLATED AT A FEDERAL IMMIGRATION COURT THAT'S LOCATED IN A PRIVATE BUILDING.ALSO TONIGHT: A NEW PROGRAM AIMS TO ASSIST ADOLESCENTS TRANSITIONING TO ADULTHOOD.AND A LOCAL AUTHOR SHARES THE REMARKABLE STORY OF A WORLD WAR TWO CONCENTRATION CAMP SURVIVOR.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT, ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> ARIZONA HORIZON MADE CONTRIBUTION TO YOUR FRIENDS.

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.CONCERNS ARE BEING RAISED OVER THE POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS OUTSIDE A FEDERAL IMMIGRATION COURT THAT'S LOCATED ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.WE TALK ABOUT THE CASE WITH ATTORNEY ROBERT MCWHIRTER.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THE COURT IS INSIDE A PRIVATE BUILDING.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AS FAR AS RIGHTS ARE CONCERNED?

>> I TELL YOU, WE DON'T KNOW.

>> IF IT'S A PROTEST IN FRONT OF A FED VAL BUILDING IT'S CLEAR YOU HAVE BROAD RIGHTS TO PROTEST.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT SAYS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST.

THERE IS NO QUESTION THERE.

REASONABLE TIME, PLACE, AND MANNER.

HERE YOU HAVE THE RIGHTS OF A LANDLORD IN ADDITION TO THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE PROTESTING.

IS THERE MORE ABILITY OF A LANDLORD TO ASSERT HIS RIGHTS TO PROTEST ON THAT PERSONS PROPERTY NOT OWNED BY THE PERSONS PROPERTY.

THE LAW IS VAGUE ON THAT.

THE LANDLORD BASICALLY WARNED THESE FOLKS AND THE MEDIA AS WELL.

A ROPE WAS INSTALLED IN JUNE AND NO TRESPASSING SIGNS IN STALLED.

CAN YOU HOLD A FEDERAL COURT HEARING WHEN THESE KINDS OF BARRIERS ARE PUT IN PLACE?

>> YES, YOU CAN.

OF I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO TWO ARGUMENTS.

THE ONE IS LANDLORD AND THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T RENT PRIVATE PROPERTY TO IMPINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF FREE PEACH AND PROTEST.

COURTS ARE USUALLY IN PUBLICLY OWNED BUILDINGS.

YOU CAN'T RENT IN THE COURT THERE.

THE POST FIRST AMENDMENT OVER DOES IT.

>> YOU HAVE A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP LIKE THIS.

WE WILL RENT OUT YOUR BUILDING.

IT'S NOT EASY TO GET TOO.

YOU MUST UNDERSTAND.

IT'S THAT ACCESS MUST BE ALLOWED.

A RENTAL AGREEMENT SOMEWHERE.

>> YOU WOULD THINK UNLESS THE ACTUAL PROTEST.

LOOK WE CAN SAY NO TRESPASSING.

THIS IS NO TRESPASSING.

NOT JUST WANTING TO GO WALK.

SO, THERE IN LIES THE TENSION.

I WOULD HAVE TO SAY IN FAVOR OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

>> IT'S A BALANCING ACT.

AGAIN, IT'S A FEDERAL IMMIGRATION COURT.

PUBLIC ACCESS RIGHTTIONS FOR THE MEDIA AND PROTESTERS.

>> THEY HAVE A GUARANTEED RENT.

UNLESS THERE IS A SHUTDOWN THEY WILL PAY THE BILL.

IF THEY MESS OF THE GRASS THEY CAN GET IT FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

HOW HE IS OUT BY ALLOWING THEM.

>> THE OTHER TENANTS THAT ARE NOT FEDERAL AGENCIES.

THEY ARE PRIVATE BUSINESSES.

THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS.

THEY WANT TO GO OUT.

>> MY RESPONSE TO THAT, LINK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THEY DON'T LIKE IT FOR WHATEVER REASON.

>> IS THERE A RIGHT TO PROTEST THESE THINGS.

>> OF COURSE.

WE THE CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEE IT.

>> JUST DO THIS MORE OFTEN.

THAT WILL BE A WAY OF CIRCUMVENTING THE CONSTITUTION.

>> WE HAVE A FEW OTHER THINGS GOING ON.

THIS IS A STANDOFF AS FAR AS FIRST AMENDMENT AND PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN TEXAS AS FAR AS THE CONSTITUTION IS CONCERNED.

PEOPLE SAID THEY WILL CHANGE THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME.

OTHERS SAY WE WON'T PLAY THE GAME.

>> WE WILL DENY A QUORUM.

>> THE FIRST THYME THAT HAPPENED WAS IN 1870.

THE QUESTION IS CAN YOU REDEFINE LEGISLATURE MAPS.

RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DECADE THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THROW ITING.

THE STATES CAN DECIDE WHO DOES AND DOESN'T VOTE.

THE 15th, THE 19th AND CHANGE THAT.

THINGS LIKE GERRYMANDERING.

IN THE CONSTITUTION.

OF IT'S TERRIBLE FOR THE BORDERS.

THIS IS WHERE WE COME IN.

THE REDISTRICTING.

OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE LEGISLATURE.

>> IT CERTAINLY WHEN THIS HAPPENS.

IT'S GOING ON.

DEMOCRATS JUST GOT UP AND LEFT.

THEY CAN BE PUNISHED RIGHT.

>> UNLESS, OF COURSE, THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION UNDER THEIR VOTE.

CAN THE FBI GET INVOLVED AND ARREST THEM UP IN ILLINOIS.

THERE IS NO FEDERAL LAW INVOKED.

TO USE THE FBI IS AN ABUSE OF FEDERAL POWER.

>> HOW DO YOU BRING THEM BACK.

>> TEXAS RANGERS HAVE NO JURISDICTION.

IN OTHER WORDS.

YOU WON'T HAVE A QUORUM.

BUSINESS DOESN'T GO FORWARD UNLESS YOU BRING THIS BACK AND IGNORE WHAT DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO GIVE FIVE EXTRA SEATS TO GUARD HIS MAJORITY IN CONGRESS.

>> COULD YOU USE AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE YOU FELL THEM WITH APPOINTMENTS OR SPECIAL ELECTIONS.

>> THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNOR WOULD LIKE TO DO.

THAT INVOKES A SEPARATION OF POWERS PROBLEM.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A GOVERNOR SAYING I'D LIKE TO PUT IN MY OWN PERSON.

>> RIGHT.

THEY ARE A ACCEPTBRATE BRANCH.

THE RULES OF THE LEGISLATURE.

THAT TRIED TO BE DONE.

YOU GOT AGAIN, THIS IS THE POWER THEY DECIDED THEY HAVE.

THEY BANK IT ON THE EXERCISE OF THE POWER.

>> GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>>> COPA HEALTH RECENTLY OPENED A NEW CENTER IN MESA THAT AIMS TO CREATE A NUTURING ENVIRONMENT FOR ADOLESCENTS TRANSITIONING TO ADULTHOOD, WITH A FOCUS ON KIDS WITH BEHAVIORAL AND EMOTIONAL CHALLENGES.JOINING US NOW IS BRETT BEHAN, HE'S THE V-P OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR COPA HEALTH.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HOAR THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> WHAT IS COPA?

>> WE ARE A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDER THAT FOCUSES ON THREE DIVISION.

EMPLOYMENT, HOUSING AND HEALTHCARE.

IT'S LOUSING BEENING IN THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH WORLD.

IT IS A FOCUS OF OURS AND WE HAVE OUR CLINICS AS WELL AS PHYSICAL HEALTH SERVICES.

>> THE VOYAGER CENTER.

>> IT'S IF FIRST.

THIS IS IN ARIZONA AND NATIONALLY.

SERVICES TO BOYS AND GIRLS BETWEEN THE AGES OF 13 AND 18 THAT HAVE A BEHAVIOR HEALTH DIAGNOSIS.

ALSO A MEDICAL COMPLEX.

A LOT OF TIMES IN EMERGENCY ROOMS.

THIS OFFERS A SOLUTION FOR COMMUNITIES.

>> YEAH, YEAH.

AND TAKING FROM WHAT I READ ABOUT THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES INVOLVED.

CULTIVATING AND AWARENESS.

>> YES, A LOT OF LIFE SKILL DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP, WHICH IS OUR THERAPY, MUSIC THERAPY.

WE TEACH LAUNDRY SKILLS.

WE TEACH THE BASIC SKILLS TO BE ABLE TO TRANSITION BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AFTER THEY GET SERVICES.

THE THINGS THEY MIGHT LEARN IN A MORE TRADITIONAL HOME.

>> A BIG THING IN THE AREA OF HEALTH.

>> VERY MUCH SO.

A LOT OF THERAPY.

HELP SUPPORT DURING TIMES OF CRISIS AND OUT IN SUPPORT OF FAMILIES.

FAMILY THERAPY PHYSICAL HEALTH SERVICES.

ARE THERE SPORTS INVOLVED HERE?

>> ARE WE HAVE GREAT OUTDOOR COMMUNITY SPACE.

WE HAVE BASKETBALL AND FUN STUFF FOR THE KIDS YOGA.

OF WE HAVE A LOT OF YOGA MATS.

WE OFFER PHYSICAL HEALTH SERVICES AS WELL TO TAKE CARE OF MEDICAL NEEDS.

>> SOUNDS LIKE PERSONALIZED CARE AND GUIDANCE.

PERSONALIZED IS GOOD.

>> VERY MUCH SO.

WE HAVE 24 BEDS AND NEVER HAVE MORE THAN ONE STAFF MEMBER.

IT'S VERY PERSONALIZED.

OF EVERYBODY HAS AN INDIVIDUALIZED PLAN AND HOW TO HELP SUPPORT THEM.

>> THERE IS AT THE FACILITY.

>> EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING.

>> YOU HAVE TO DO IT FOR THEM.

>> WHO IS PREREQUISITE?

>> A LOT OF REFERRALS FROM IN PATIENT FACILITIES.

THE THERAPIST, COUNSELORS, PHYSICIANS, WHO ARE THEY AND WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM.

>> PRACTITIONERS COUNSELORS AND THERAPIST HAVE A LOT OF HEALTH EXPERIENCE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF COPA.

>> ITSELF ALL SOUNDS GREAT THEY HAVE A CHILD WITH PROBLEMS AND NEEDS A PLACE LIKE THIS AND QUALIFIES FOR A PLACE LIKE THAT.

DOES THE FAMILY CONTRIBUTE?

>> NOT RIGHT NOW.

COPA HEALTH.ORG.

WE HAVE GREAT INFORMATION ON THERE.

WE ARE UPDATING IT CONSTANTLY AS WE GROW OR BRIDGE THE CENTER.

>> ALL RIGHT, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>12-LITERACY CAMPS SERVED ABOUT THREE HUNDRED STUDENTS ACROSS ARIZONA THIS SUMMER.

THE CURRICULUM AT THESE CAMPS WAS BASED ON ARIZONA P-B-S' ANIMATED CHILDREN'S SERIES CALLED "SUPER WHY," WHICH IS DESIGNED TO TEACH CHILDREN TO READ.

ARIZONA HORIZON'S ROXANNE DE LA ROSA TELLS US MORE.

CAN >>IT'S A SPECIAL DAY OUTCUE:REPORT FOR.

>> DENNIS LURKS UNDBERG IS EXCITED FOR THIS.

>> IT'S SO INTERACTIVE AND SO COMPREHENSIVE AGAIN, WITH ALL LITERACY.

>> RIGHT BEHIND THESE DOORS IS WHERE ARIZONA PBS STAFF MEMBERS PLAN TO HAVE SUPER WIDE LITERACY.

EVEN IN TROUBLE AREAS LOOP ARIZONA EXPOSING YOUNG CHILDREN TO EARLY LITERACY SKILLS.

>> KIM IS SHARING WHY THEY ARE VITAL TO THE COMMUNITY.

>> S THE NEED IS THERE.

YOU KNOW, READING AND READING SKILLS ARE IN THE NEWS QUITE A BIT.

THE LITERACY RATE IS LOWER.

WE KNOW, OUR KIDS ARE NOT ENTERING SCHOOL AND READY TO LEARN HOW TO READ.

THAT WILL HELP THEM BE SUCCESSFUL LATER IN LIFE.

>> THE GOAL IS TO OFFER MORE CAMPS TO CHILDREN IN UNDER SEVERED AREAS.

>> DURING THE CAMP THEY RECEIVE A NEW BOOK EACH DAY TO TAKE HOME.

TEACHERS ARE GIVEN THE MATERIALS TO PLAY FUN GAMES AND ACTIVITIES FOCUSED ON HELPING YOUNG MINDS LEARN TO READ.

>> IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM AND TAKING A LOT OF MATERIALS.

>> 5-YEAR-OLD CAMPER HARPER SPOKE ABOUT HER DAY.

>> I DID A GREAT JOB AT CARN.

>> WHEN ASKED HER ANSWER IS SIMPLE.

>> I READ.

OF.

>> SHE KNOWS THE IMPORTANCE OF LITERACY AT A YOUNG AGE.

>> WE'D LIKE TO CATCH THEM YOUNG AND GET THEM TO LOVE SCHOOL RIGHT AWAY AND GIVE THEM THOSE CONNECTIONS.

RIGHT FROM THE GET GO IS SO IMPORTANT.

>> SHE'S THANKFUL TO OFFER THIS AT HER CAMPUS AND LACK OF STATE FUNDING.

>> WITHOUT PBS WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OFFER IT AND MAKE IT 360-DEGREE EXPERIENCE.

WE APPRECIATE SO MUCH.

WE HOPE WE GET DO DO IT AGAIN.

PARTNERSHIP WITH REPORT FOR AMERICA.

>> CHILDREN WHO ATTEND THE CAMPS HAVE A NEARLY 50% INCREASE IN READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS.

THE CAMPS ARE FREE TO CHILDREN 4-TO-5 YEARS OF AGE.

>> A LOCAL AUTHOR IS SHARING THE STORY OF A SURVIVOR OF WORLD WAR-2 GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

THE BOOK IS TITLED, "HENRY", AND IT'S AN ACCOUNT OF LOVE, LOSS AND LOYALTY AS IT TAKES ON SOME OF THE LESSER KNOWN EVILS OF THE HOLOCAUST.WE WELCOME THE BOOK'S AUTHOR, KATRINA SHAWVER, TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

IT'S BEEN OUT A WHILE BUT HAS LEGS.

>> IT HAS LEGS.

A CERTAIN PART OF HISTORY THAT'S TIMELESS ABDOMEN ALSO TIMELY.

>> IT'S STAYING CURRENT.

>> THE SUBTIT IS A SWIMMER'S TRUE STORY.

HENRY IS HENRY ZEGUTA.

>> I MET HIM ON A PHONE.

I WAS WRITING AND THOUGHT IT WAS NICE TO FIND INTERESTING PEOPLE.

HE WAS 85 WITH NO CHILDREN AND SIBLINGS.

I HAD A GUT INSTINCT HE HAD A STORY.

>> HE WAS A CHAMPION SWIMMER.

>> YES, BEFORE SWIMMING WAS A GOOD DEAL.

>> HIS MOM WAS SINGLE BECAUSE SO MANY DADS DIED DURING THE WAR.

THERE HE IS.

>> IN FRONT OF ST. MARY'S, THIS IS IMPORTANT.

WE HEAR ABOUT SURVIVORS BUT HE WASN'T JEWISH.

IT'S A SUBSET.

6 MILLION PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES.

3 MILLION WERE JEWISH AND 3 MILLION WERE NOT.

THEY WERE DEVASTATED BY HITLER AND STALLING.

>> FOR VARIOUS HISTORICAL REASONS.

GERMANY AND RUSSIA HATED POLAND AND DETERMINED TO RUIN POLAND.

YOU ARREST AND KILL THE LEADERS.

ARREST EVERYONE THAT CAN FIGHT AGAINST YOU.

>> HEN REND ENDED UP IN AUSCHWITZ.

>> ING HE WAS ARRESTED BECAUSE HE WAS A POLITICAL PRISONER.

>> CORRECT.

>> HOW DID HE SURVIVE THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

>> HE ALWAYS SAID IT WAS SPECIAL.

I WAS LUCKY AND I KNEW SOMEONE.

>> THEY HAD BEEN THE GOALIE.

LET'S DO HIM THE 22,000.

>> HE HAD A VIEW UNTIL A LOT OF HISTORY OTHERS DIDN'T SEE.

>> DID IT HELP HIM SURVIVE BY BEING CATHOLIC?

>> NO, WHAT HELPED HIM WAS SIX YEARS OF GERMAN LANGUAGE.

YOU HAD A LONGER LIFE-SPAN IF YOU SPOKE GERMAN.

HE WENT IN AS AN ATHLETE AND THAT HELPED SO MUCH.

THEN HIS CONNECTIONS.

>> HOW DID HE GET TO PLEASURING?

>> INTERESTING.

HE WENT BACK TO POLAND AFTER THE WAR.

HE WAS LIBERATED IN.

HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNIST WOULD RULE POLAND.

HE ENDED UP AFTER HIDING FOR YEARS HE GOT A JOB AS THE SWIM AND OUTDROP LO COACH.

HE WOULD WORK FROM CONNIST AND JOIN THE POLICY.

WHEN THEY SENT HIM FROM REEDUCATION THROUGH CONNECTIONS HE'D RESPECT IT FOR THE U.S. >> HE ENDED UP IN NEW YORK CITY.

YOU HAVE TO READ THE BOOK.

IN 1985.

HE THEN RETIRED.

>> HE COMES HERE AND RETIRES AND MEETS A REPORTER FROM THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC.

>> TH REPORTER HAD A PHONE CALL FROM A JUNIOR COLLEGE THAT DOESN'T REMEMBER THE PHONE CALL.

>> WOW.

>> I HAVE A JUDGE YOU NEED TO MEET.

THIS WAS SPECIAL.

>> WITH THINK HE DID.

>> OKAY, THAT'S A LOOK.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MEET THIS MAN.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE.

YOU CAN SEE ANYONE ELSE WOULD YOU GO FOR IT.

>> DID HE WANT HIS STORY TOLD?

>> I MET HIM WHEN HE WAS 85.

I HAD YOUNGER KIDS WHEN I WAS WORKING.

A GOOD FRIEND SAID, IF YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE TIME YOU WILL BE GONE.

>> IF HE WANTED IT DONE.

IS HIS WIFE WAS FROM THE BRONX.

>> WAS IT DIFFICULT TO WRITE?

>> PART OF IT WAS.

YOU CAN ONLY LISTEN TO SO MUCH ABOUT A CONCENTRATION CAMP.

HE PROMISED ME TO WRITE ABOUT MORE THAN JUST THE WAR.

I WENT THROUGH HEL FOR THREE YEARS BUT I HAD AN AMAZING LIFE.

DON'T JUST WRITE THE BAD PART.

>> THERE IS HUMOR AND OPTIMISM THE BOOK INCLUDES SOME OF THAT.

>> IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT.

HE WOULD RECOGNIZE POLICES WE CLICKED.

>> YOU HAVE BOOKS HERE.

>> OKAY, LAST QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE MESSAGE OF THE BOOK.

THERE WERE A WIDE RANGE OF PEOPLE PERSECUTED.

THEY SEE SUFFERED MORE AND DESERVE CREDIT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> FOR WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH CONGRATULATIONS AND IT MIGHT GO HAVE BEEN RELEASED AND STILL GOING STRONG.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

HAVE A GREAT