♪ GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "CORONAVIRUS: A COMMUNITY FORUM" HERE ON PBS FORT WAYNE.

THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN.

I'M MARK EVANS.

YOU ARE HEAR FROM EXPERTS WHO WILL ADDRESS VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE NOVEL CORONAVIRUS AND WHAT WE SHOULD DO AND KNOW IN ORDER TO BETTER COPE AND RESPOND AND ENGAGE DURING THESE DAYS.

AND THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM WE EPICENTRE VITE YOU TO CALL IN WE EPINVITE YOU TO CALL IN.

ON THE PHONES TONIGHT WE HAVE DR.

PAUL.

AND DR.

JOHN GREECE.

MICHELLE GRIESE.

KELLY DAVIS OF MARIAN COLLEGE.

AND DR.

ANDREW SHAUGHNESSY.

DR.

RAJU.

TLC DENTAL AND DR.

RAVI AND KATHY OH SHAUGHNESSY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

WITH ME IS DR.

KEITH DAVIS.

AND C. DAVIS IS OF THE WOMEN'S HEALTH ADVANTAGE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WANTED TO ASK OUT OF THE CHUTE SINCE YOU ARE AN OB THAT OBSTETRICIAN HOW IS THE CORONAVIRUS AFFECTING WOMEN WHO ARE EXPECTING?

>> GOOD QUESTION.

THE CORONAVIRUS HASN'T BEEN AROUND AS LONG AS WOMEN HAVE BEEN PREGNANT DURING THE PANDEMIC.

ONE OF THE BIG ANSWERS IS WE DON'T KNOW A LOT YET.

AND I THINK THAT IS WHY SOCIAL DISTANCING IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK ITING IMPORTANT FOR PREGNANT WOMEN TO NOT GET THE VIRUS.

THE INITIAL DATA OUT OF CHINA AND OTHER COUNTRIES ALTHOUGH SMALL IT APPEARS THAT THE VIRUS DOES NOT CAUSE WORSE DISEASE IN PREGNANT WOMEN OR AFFECT THEM WORSE THAN ANYONE ELSE THEIR AGE AND HEALTH.

SO THEY HAVE ALSO LOOKED AT EFFECTS ON BABIES.

WHETHER THEY ARE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO TRANSMIT TO THE BABIES.

I THINK WE WILL GET A TON MORE NUMBERS OF WOMEN WHO END UP GETTING INFECTION MID-PREGNANCY, EARLY AND LATE PREGNANCY AND WE WILL KNOW A LITTLE MORE.

I DO LOOK AT SOME OF THE DATA FROM THE SARS AND MERS AND OR PRIOR VIRUSES THAT WERE SIMILAR AND INFLUENZA, H1N1 AND THEY CAN CAUSE EFFECTS ON PREGNANCY AND NEWBORN, PREMATURE BIRTH, SMALL BABIES.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT GET THE VIRUS.

SOCIAL DISTANCING, MASKING WHEN APPROPRIATE.

>> AND WE WILL TALK TO YOU LATER IN THE PROGRAM AND TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING IN FROM THE PHONE BANK.

>> GREAT.

>> AND IN THE MEANTIME, OVER TO BRUCE HAINES WITH A SPECIAL GUEST.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

INDEED, JOINED AGAIN THIS WEEK BY ALLEN COUNTY HEALTH COMMISSIONER DR.

DEB MCMAHAN AND THE TWO ARE JOINED BY DR.

JEFFREY BOORD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DEB, LET ME START WITH YOU.

WHERE ARE WE NOW?

>> ALL RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT THE FIRST SLIDE, PLEASE.

LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS.

GOT TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

GLOBALLY, WE HIT OVER A MILLION.

IN THE UNITED STATES ALMOST AT A QUARTER OF A MILLION.

INDIANA ABOUT 3500 AND ALLEN COUNTY UP TO 60 DAYS WITH TWO DEATHS.

THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

STILL ON THE UPHILL JOURNEY.

SO WE HAVE NOT YET PEAKED.

BUT SO WE ARE STILL GOING UP.

WHERE WE ARE GOING TO PEAK, DON'T KNOW BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S SOON.

>> Morgan: WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THE WORD SURGE AND SOME OF US PROBABLY FEEL IT IS RIGHT UP THERE WITH THE WORD SIEGE UNDER WHICH WE ARE BOTH EXPERIENCING STRESSES DURING THESE DAYS, PARTICULARLY IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY.

DR.

BOORD WHY ARE WE SURGING NOW?

WHAT ARE THE ELEMENTS CAUSING HOSPITALS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT HAVING SUFFICIENT CAPACITY AND THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF THAT?

>> BRUCE, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AS THE VIRUS SPREADS IN THE COMMUNITY, A CERTAIN FRACTION OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BECOME I'LLL ENOUGH TO REQUIRE HOSPITALIZATION.

INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE EXPERIENCE IN OTHER COUNTRIES SUCH AS CHINA, ITALY, SOUTH KOREA SAYS THAT ABOUT 80% OF PATIENTS WHO CONTRACT COVID-19 ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SEVERE ILLNESS.

THEY WILL FEEL ILL BUT THEY CAN CON VASECONVALESCE AT HOME AND T REQUIRE HOSPITALIZATION.

AND 5% MAY REQUIRE INTENSIVE CARE UNIT LEVEL CARE.

AND AS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES INCREASES IN ANY COMMUNITY, THEN THE BURDEN ON THE HOSPITAL GOES UP.

SO IF WE THINK ABOUT FORT WAYNE, AROUND 300,000 PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT FRACTION THAT DO BECOME INFECTED WITH COVID-19, EVEN IF ONLY 5% OF THOSE INFECTED REQUIRE AN INTENSIVE CARE UNIT, THAT COULD STILL BE A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF PATIENTS.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOSPITAL SURGE, IT IS THOSE PATIENTS THAT REQUIRE HOSPITAL LEVEL CARE AND PARTICULARLY ICU CARE THAT WE'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT AS THE NUMBER OF TOTAL CASES RISES IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> AND HOW DO HOSPITALS LIKE PARKVIEW PLAN FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE NEVER PERHAPS NECESSARILY NEEDED TO PULL OUT A PLAN FOR UP UNTIL NOW?

>> COVID-19 IS A PANDEMIC.

A UNIQUE TYPE OF CORONAVIRUS.

IT IS A NOVEL INFECTION.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PANDEMICS OF INFECTIOUS UPPER RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES THE OTHER PANDEMIC VIRUS THAT EXISTS IN OUR WORLD IS INFLUENZA.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL PANDEMIC RESPONSE PLAN IT IS ACTUALLY BASED ON INFLUENZA.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT CORONAVIRUS, COVID-19 AND INFLUENZA ARE DIFFERENT IN A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT WAYS.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE TO COVID-19 IT IS YOU CAN USE THE SAME PRINCIPLES AS YOU DO FOR PANDEMIC INFLUENZA.

SO THE UNITED UNITED STATES THED HEALTH ORGANIZATION AND CDC ARE USING AN INFLUENZA RESPONSE PLAN TO GUIDE OUR RESPONSE TO COVID-19 BECAUSE IT IS AN INFECTIOUS UPPER RESPIRATORY VIRAL PATHOGEN EASILY SPREAD IN THE COMMUNITY AND LEADS TO VARYING SEVERITIES OF ILLNESS.

THE SAME PRINCIPLES OF SOCIAL DISTANCING.

ATTENTION TO HAND HYGIENE AND OTHER PREVENTIVE MEASURES TO PREVENT SPREAD ARE IMPORTANT.

PARTICULARLY EARLY ON TO HELP BEND THE CURVE AS DR.

MCMAHAN HAS BEEN SHARING WITH US TO REDUCE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES COMING AT ONE TIME SO TO NOT EXCEED THE CAPACITY OF THE HEALTH SYSTEM IN A PARTICULAR REGION.

THE WAY WE ARE PREPARING OURSELVES IS FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO SAY HOW CAN WE INTRODUCE CAPACITY.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE DID WAS WE CANCELED ELECTIVE SURGERIES.

SO PATIENTS THAT WOULD COME IN FOR A ROUTINE ELEGTIVE PROCEDURE, A KNEE REPLACEMENT OR OTHER ELECTIVE SURGERY, THOSE ARE BEING DEFERRED WHICH MEANS THE BEDS BECOME AVAILABLE TO TAKE CARE OF SICK PATIENTS WITH COVID-19.

THE SECOND THING WE CAN DO IS SPREAD CAPACITY AROUND SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT PATIENTS WITH COVID-19 CAN BE WHEN WE CALL COHORTED SO THAT PATIENTS THAT HAVE THE SAME ILLNESS WE HAVE ON THE SAME UNIT AND CAN DEDICATE ALL OF THE RESOURCES ON THAT UNIT TO CARE FOR THOSE PATIENTS, PARTICULARLY IF THEY REQUIRE INTENSIVE OR ICU LEVEL CARE OR USE OF A VENTILATOR TO ASSIST WITH BREATHING.

WE CAN ALSO OPEN UP AREAS WE MIGHT USE FOR OTHER PURPOSES SUCH AS ROUTINE INPATIENT REHABILITATION.

WE CAN REPURPOSE THOSE UNITS TO USE FOR TAKING CARE OF SICK PATIENTS.

ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS PARK ORTHOPEDIC HOSPITAL SINCE WE ARE NOT DOING PATIENTS DOES NOT HAVE PATIENTS -- WE ARE NOT DOING SURGERY SO WE DO NOT HAVE PATIENTS THERE FOR RECOVERY.

THERE IS OPEN CAPACITY TO TAKE CARE OF MORE OF THE PATIENTS WITH COVID-19.

A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF BED SPACE AND THE RIGHT KIND OF RESOURCES TO TAKE CARE OF COVID-19 PATIENTS AS THEY COME TO OUR DOOR.

>> HOW TO Y DO YOU REACT TO THA?

IT HOW CALMLY HE IS PLAYING OUT THE PLAN, THE HOURS AND HOURS IS AND HOURS PUT INTO MAKING THOSE TWO WHAT SOUND LIKE SIMPLE INITIATIVES.

IT IS CHALLENGING TO COHORT AND MAXIMIZE THE LIMITED RESOURCES YOU HAVE.

THEY ARE DOING SPOT ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MANAGE THE SITUATION AND SUCH A GRAVE SITUATION EFFORTLESS, BUT IT IS NOT.

>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS WEEK WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT MASKS, THAT WE SHOULD BE WEARING THEM IN PUBLIC AND MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE WEARING THEM IN PUBLIC OR ONLY IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE THEM.

I'M SURE FOLKS ARE WHAT WONDERING WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE MASKS.

>> A GREAT QUESTION AND CAN BE A CONFUSING TOPIC FOR THE PUBLIC.

WEARING PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT INCLUDING MASKS OR EYE PROTECTION, GLOVES OR GOWNS WHEN YOU ARE IN THE HEALTHCARE SETTING, SO IF YOU ARE A HEALTHCARE WORKER AND DELIVERING CARE TO A PATIENT, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT IS TO PROTECT THE HEALTHCARE WORKER FROM A TRANSMISSABLE DISEASE SUCH AS COVID-19 OR INFLUENZA.

WEARING ALL OF THAT IF I GO SEE A SICK PATIENT IN THE CLINIC, I MAY HAVE TO WEAR A MASK AND EYE PROTECTION AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO KEEP ME FROM BEING SICK.

IT IS LARGELY TRANSMITTED BY DROPLETS.

SNEEZING OR DROPPING DROPLETS WITH VIRUS AND THOSE GET ON THE MUCUS MEMBRANES OF ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL AND CAN LEAD TO INFECTION.

THAT EQUIPMENT IS TO PROTECT ME FROM ILLNESS FROM AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE.

IN THE COMMUNITY, IF THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS WEARING A MASK, THE GOAL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SOME PATIENTS EARLY IN THE COURSE OF INFECTION CAN SHORT SHEDDING VIRUS WITHOUT BEING VISIBLY ILL.

IT IS DURING THAT PHASE THAT THEY MIGHT INTRODUCE VIRUS INTO THE ENVIRONMENT AND POTENTIALLY INFECT OTHERS.

SO HAVING THE GENERAL PUBLIC WEAR A MASK OR FACE COVERING IS ACTUALLY NOT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES BUT RATHER PROTECT OTHERS.

IT HAS A SOME WHAT DIFFERENT GOAL AND THAT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED TODAY.

PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE CDC HAVE MADE THIS NEW RECOMMENDATION.

AND IT IS AS A PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURE.

BUT IT DOES HAVE A DISTINCT PURPOSE COMPARED TO SEEING A DOCTOR, NURSE, RESPIRATORY THERAPY, NURSING ASSISTANT WEARING A MASK DOING DIRECT PATIENT PAIR.

>> BUT IT DOES NOT REPLACE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THERE IS SOMETHING MAGIC ABOUT WEARING A MASK BECAUSE WE SEE THAT WITH GLOVES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

IT IS A TOOL BUT MANY OF MANY TOOLS.

CAN NO NOT REPLACE THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

I'M AFRAID PEOPLE THINK I CAN JUST DO WHATEVER.

NO, YOU STILL NEED THE SIX FEET APART AND NEED TO WASH YOUR HANDS AND BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU TAKE THE MASK OFF AND ON, A. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FORMAL MASK.

SAVE THAT FOR THE HEALTHCARE WORKERS THAT NEED IT TO SHOW UP TO WORK.

USE A SCARF OR ANY KIND OF CLOTH.

THE MEDICAL GRADE SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR HEALTHCARE WORKERS HAVE, IT IS NOT MAGIC, JUST ANOTHER TOOL TO USE.

>> WE WILL HOPEFULLY UNMASK OTHER ASPECTS OF COVID-19.

>> HAD TO TRY IT.

>> HAD TO DO IT.

>> THANKS TO DR.

JEFFREY BOORD WHO IS THE CHIEF QUALITY AND SAFETY OFFICER AND YOU HEARD WHY FROM PARKVIEW HEALTH.

THANK YOU SO.

DEB MCMAHAN WILL BE BACK LATER.

NOW JENNIFER HAS A SPECIAL GUEST.

>> DR.

JAY FAWVER WHO IS A PSYCHIATRIST IN FORT WAYNE IS JOINING US.

IT IS INTERESTING WE LISTENED FROM BRUCE AND HIS GUEST AND TALKING ABOUT SOCIAL DISTANCING AND TRYING TO STAY AWAY AT PEOPLE.

BUT AT HOME AIL ON TOP OF EACH OTHER BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE CONSIDERED NONESSENTIAL YOU ARE WORKING FROM HOME.

HERE IN INDIANA IT WAS ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY SCHOOLS ARE NOT GOING TO REOPEN SO THE CHILDREN WILL BE LEARNING REMOTELY AT HOME.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I WASN'T SURPRISED TO SEE AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWSPAPER THIS WEEK THAT VIOLENT CRIME CALLS TO FORT WAYNE POLICE ARE DOWN.

DOMESTIC DISTURBANCE CALLS ARE ON THE UNCREASE.

I GUESS IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE.

>> THE MORAL OF THE STORY THERE, JENNIFER IS IF YOU DIDN'T GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER BEFORE YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING DO GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER NOW.

KIND OF MAKES SENSE.

>> MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF SPACE IN THE HOUSE AND THE WEATHER IS GETTING NICER SO IT IS OKAY TO MAYBE GO IN YOUR BACK YARD.

IT CAN BE A CHALLENGE.

>> I CANNOT EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH TO GO OUTSIDE.

I SAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT I'M SO GRATEFUL THIS IS OHKYING IN THE MONTH OFFSHORE APRIL AND WE ARE NOT IN DECEMBER BECAUSE IF WE HAD THREE MONTHS OF WINTER AHEAD OF US.

>> THAT WOULD BE ROUGH.

>> THAT WOULD BE ROUGH GOING.

WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL DAYS.

APRIL AND MAY ARE WONDERFUL DAYS TO WORK OUT AND EXERCISE OUTSIDE.

GO OUTSIDE.

YOU CAN SEPARATE YOURSELF THAT WAY.

DON'T BE AROUND OTHER PEOPLE NECESSARILY WHEN YOU GO OUTSIDE.

STAY THE -6Z FEET APART AND HAVE THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

GETTING OUTSIDE AND GETTING FRESH AIR AND EXERCISE IS WONDERFUL FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH.

>> LOOK AT THE GLASS HALF FULL.

THIS COULD BE CHRISTMAS TIME.

THINK OF THE RAMIFICATIONS IF IT WAS A FEW MONTHS EARLIER.

STORES.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SHOPPING BEFORE BECAUSE THAT I KNOW I KIND OF HAD A JUST A STARK REALIZATREALIZATION IT WAS FRIDE 13TH WHEN EVERYTHING STARTED FALLING APART AND I HAPPENED TO BE OUT GROCERY SHOPPING AND I THOUGHT THERE IS NO BREAD.

THERE IS NO MILK.

THERE ARE NO EGGS.

IT WAS SCARY AND IT WAS LIKE THAT FOR A WEEK.

NOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A LITTLE CALMER.

YOU WERE SHOPPING TODAY.

>> MUCH CALMER.

>> THE ANXIETY LEVEL IS.

>> THE TOILET PAPER WENT FIRST.

>> AND A TRUCK HAULING TOILET PAPER IN TEXAS CRASHED AND CAUGHT ON FIRE THIS WEEK SO THAT WAS LIKE A MAJOR STORY.

>> THE TRUCKERS ARE STILL MOVING.

>> THEY ARE.

>> UNLIKE MANY NATURAL DISASTERS WHERE THEY CAN'T MOVE PRODUCT THEY ARE MOVING PRODUCT.

THE SHELVES ARE GETTING RESTOCKED QUICKLY.

WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO THE TRUCKERS AND GROCERS FOR HELPING US THROUGH THIS.

IT IS NOT LIKE A LOT OF OTHER CRY SESSCRISES WHERE YOU TRULY T HAVE PRODUCT ON THE SHELF.

WE STILL DO.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT CHANGED ABOUT STORES AND THIS WAS JUST IMPLEMENTED TODAY AND I ASSUME IT WILL PROBABLY GROW.

QUITE A FEW STORES, NATIONAL CHAINS SAYING BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOT AND WE WILL OMELET SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE STORE AT A TIME AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO STAY OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.

I HEARD THAT AND I THOUGHT THAT COULD BE A LITTLE SC SCARY FOR PEOPLE I WOULD THINK.

>> KEEP IN MIND THIS IS UNDOUBTEDLY TIME LIMITED.

WHEN WE WENT THROUGH/SUPPORTER 9/11 WEDIDN'T KNOW WHEN IT WOUL.

THERE WAS SO MUCH ANXIETY AND UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THIS.

THE THING ABOUT A VIRUS IS WE AT LEAST KNOW IT IS A VIRUS AND THE DAYS OF THE BLACK PLAGUE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS CAUSING THE DEATHS.

AT LEAST WE IDENTIFIED WHAT IS CAUSING IT AND WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO TREAT IT AND PREVENT WITH A VACCINE IN THE FUTURE.

WE FIGURE IT WILL BE SETTLING DOWN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND HOPE THERE WILL BE A TIME LIMIT ON IT AND THEN WE WILL BE MORE PREPARED IF IT COMES AROUND FOR ROUND TWO NEXT FALL OR WINTER.

>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE BEING POSITIVE.

I DO CATCH THE GOVERNOR'S STATE ADDRESS EVERY DAY.

THE UPDATES.

AND HE IS JUST ALWAYS FULL OF -- LIKE THREE PAGES FULL OF AMAZING STORIES.

IT BROUGHT OUT A LOT OF GOOD IN MEME.

PEOPLE?

PEOPLE.

>> WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN HOPE.

WE GOT TRICKLES OF INFORMATION IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH.

NOT A SURPRISE.

YOU KIND OF HEARD IT WAS COMING AND IF YOU WATCHED THE NEWS OUT OF ITALY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SURPRISED AT ALL BECAUSE THEY GOT HIT WITH IT FULL FORCE SO WE WERE A BIT MORE PREPARED THAN THEY WERE.

AS YOU START TO ADAPT TO A CRISIS LIKE THIS, YOU TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND YOU ARE LESS PANICKY AND ANXIOUS AND WHEN YOU ADAPT YOU START TO, WELL, THING ABOUT OTHER SOLUTIONS AND GET MORE CREATIVE.

AND I THINK WHAT IS EXCITING ABOUT ALL THIS IS WE WILL HAVE MORE INNOVATIONS IN ALL AREA OF BUSINESS INCLUDING MEDICINE.

WE ARE ALSO SEEING TREMENDOUS INNOVATIONS IN MEDICINE THAT THIS CRISIS FORCED US TO IMPLEMENT.

>> THERE COULD BE SOME GOOD COMING OUT OF IT.

DR.

FAWVER THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WILL TURN IT BACK TO MARK FOR THE PHONE BANK.

>> THEY ARE RINGING TONIGHT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE PHONE CALLS.

THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.

IT "CORONAVIRUS: A COMMUNITY FORUM."

I'M TALKING WITH DR.

KEITH DAVIS WHO IS FIELDING QUESTIONS FROM THE PHONE BANK.

WE HAD A COUPLE REGARDING HOW LONG DOES THE VIRUS STAY ON SURFACES BECAUSE IT IS KNOWN THAT MOST OF THE TRANSMISSION OF THIS VIRUS IS THROUGH TOUCH.

SO HOW LONG DOES IT STAY ON VARIOUS SURFACES?

>> THIS HE HAVE DONE STUDIES AND WORK AND THE CDC HAS LOOKED AT THE HARDER SURFACES THE VIRUS TENDS TO LIVE LONGER.

THEY STUDIED CLOTHE AND CARD BOORD AND COULD DETECT LIVE VIRUS THIS HOURS LATER BUT ON METAL AND GLASS AND HARDWOOD IT COULD BE FOUR TO FIVE DAYS.

SO I THINK AS IT IS SPREAD BY TOUCH THAT IS WHY IT SO IMPORTANT TO WIPE THOSE SURFACES DOWN ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS SOMEONE SICK IN THE HOME OR IT IS NOT YOUR SURFACES.

SO IF YOU ARE OUT TOUCH THINGS LIKE A CART AT THE GROCERY STORE, SHELVES AT THE GROCERY STORE, THOSE THINGS COULD HAVE VIRUS FROM SOMEBODY COUGHING OR SNEEZING TWO DAYS AGO.

>> AND THE BUSINESSES STAYING OPEN AS ESSENTIAL BUSINESSES THEY SHOULD BE VERY AWARE OF THIS, THAT, THE CLEANING PROCESS.

>> EVERYWHERE I HAVE BEEN IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OF WIPING DOWN SURFACES AND CARTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU ARE USING.

YOU SHOULD BE AWARE ALSO.

>> WE WILL TALK TO YOU MORE AND I KNOW YOU WILL GO BACK TO THE PHONE BANK AND FIELD MORE QUESTIONS.

MEANTIME, BACK OVER TO BRUCE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST AS THE VIRUS IS UNSEEN THOUGH THE WORLD LOOKS NORMAL AROUND IS THE EFFECTS OF THE VIRUS ECONOMICALLY CAN FEEL LIKE THEY ARE UNSEEN BUT NEVERTHELESS THEY ARE VERY MUCH A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND DR.

TAMMY TOSCOS RESEARCH SCIENCE AND MANAGER OF INFOMATTICS IS JOINED BY JESSICA PATER, A RESEARCH SCIENTIST AT PARKVIEW HEALTH AND TOGETHER THEY TOOK IT UP TO FIND OUT HOW TO MAKE THE INVISIBLE EFFECT IS OF COMMUNITY LIFE WITH THE VIRUS VISIBLE.

WELCOME TO YOU BOTH?

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>> WHAT WAS THE INTENTION BEHIND THE COMMUNITY SURVEY.

>> IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF MARCH WHEN WE SAW THE FIRST DEATH IN SEATTLE THAT DR.

MCMAHAN REACHED OUT TO US TO SEE IF WE COULD WORK WITH HER TO HELP ENSURE BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY WERE PREPARED FOR THE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL PART OF THE VIRUS.

WE WORKED WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CONCERNED TO DEVELOP A SURVEY INSTRUMENT THAT WAS DEPLOYED ELECTRONICALLY ON THE 12TH OF MARCH YORK WE WERE AHEAD OF THE GAME BECAUSE DR.

MCMAHAN ANTICIPATED THIS WOULD BE A PANDEMIC AND THERE WOULD BE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC THINGS TO CONSIDER AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS WERE ACKNOWLEDGED.

>> IT VIRUS IS NOT SOMETHING WE CONTENDED WITH ON THIS ORDER OF MAGNITUDE IN CERTAINLY OUR LIFETIMES.

WHAT IS IT LIKE TO TRY TO DO A VAIR ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT -- A SURVEY ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> IT MADE TO CHALLENGING TO THINK THROUGH WHAT THE NEEDS WERE IN A SURVEY THAT WOULD ONLY TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES, A BURDEN FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE.

WE WORKED BASED OFF OF THE U.S.

HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES FLU PANDEMIC CHECK LIST FOR BUSINESSES AS A PLACE TO START TO START TO DEVELOP QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL SOLVENCY.

HOW LONG WOULD COULD A FAMILY RECEIVE IF THEY WERE NOT RECEIVING PAY CHECKS AND IF BUSINESSES WERE CLOSED.

AND BASED ON OUR BACKGROUND IN COMPUTER SCIENCE STARTED DIVING DEEP NEAR THE MORE SOCIAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL COMPONENTS OF OUR SOCIETY.

>> AND AFTER THE MODELING AND TECHNOLOGY WHAT IS THE HUMAN FACTOR?

WHAT WERE SOME OF THE FINDINGS.

>> THE FIRST SLIDE GIVES YOU THE OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE FOUND.

HE WOWE HADABOUT 1 QUESTIONS ANT RESPONSE -- 19 QUESTIONS AND GOT RESPONSES FROM NEARLY 5,000 PEOPLE IN INDIANA.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THE TOP FINDING WE FEEL IS MOST SIGNIFICANT IS WE SEE THE FINANCIAL SOLVENCY FOR ALMOST HALF OF THE RESPONDENTS WAS THAT ALMOST HALF OF THE RESPONDENTS COULD NOT GO MORE THAN TWO WEEKS WITHOUT RECEIVING A PAY CHECK.

THIS IS SOMETHING HE WOULD WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS COMMUNICATED BOTH TO THE LOCAL PHILANTHROPIC GROUPS RESPONSIBLE FOR GIVING OUT RESOURCES AND ALSO TO THE GOVERNMENT MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE KEEPING PEOPLE AFLOAT ECONOMICALLY.

AND THEN JESSICA CAN TALK ABOUT THE OTHER FINDINGS AND SOCIAL CONNECTION IN PARTICULAR, I THINK, FASCINATING FOR US.

>> WE WANTED TO ASK THE RESPONDENTS WHAT THEY FELT WAS A CRITICAL NEED AND WHAT WAS A BASIC NEED FOR THEM IN THIS TIME OF UNCERTAINTY AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LIFETIME AGO, TWO WEEKS EYE GO WHEN THIS WAS ALL TAKING PLACE.

>> EXACTLY.

>> EVEN THEN WE HADN'T STARTED SHELTERING IN PLACE THAT THE POINT BUT WE SAW WHAT YOU COULD EXPECT TO SEE THAT ALMOST EVERYONE, FOOD, SHELTER, HEALTHCARE, MEDICINE.

BUT THE SOCIAL CONNECTION WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY WERE JUST AS IMPORTANT TO THE RESPONDENTS AS ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE.

IT WAS REALLY A HEARTENING FINDING THAT I FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE STILL WERE CRAVING COMPONENTS OF CONNECTION AND COMMUNITY AND SEEING INTERESTING WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE HAVE DONE THAT SO FAR IN OUR OWN LIVES AS WE NOW ARE, YOU KNOW -- >> WE STILL WANT TO DO SOMETHING.

>> YES.

>> WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING TOGETHER BUT FROM A DISTANCE.

>> CORRECT, YES.

YOU HAVE A GRAPHIC.

THE TYPES OF MEDICATIONS THAT HOUSEHOLDS ARE RESPONDING TO THAT THEY ARE NEEDING.

FIRST OF ALL, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?

>> IN ADDITION TO THE ISSUE WITH FINANCES, WE ALSO ASKED RESPONDENTS WHETHER THEY WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING ANY PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS AND WHAT TYPES.

FROM THIS CHART YOU CAN SEE THAT AT THE BOTTOM MENTAL HEALTH AND BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICINES WERE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST IN TERMS OF CONCERNS FOR ACCESSING AND PAYING FOR MEDICATIONS.

>> AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- THOSE THAT RESPONDED, THAT THEY ONLY HAD ONE TO TWO WEEKS OF FINANCIAL SOLVENT CITY, THOSE ARE INVERTED.

MENTAL HEALTH MEDICATIONS ARE THE MOST CONCERNED.

AND THEN WE SEE THE BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICATION AND DIABETES CLASSES.

>> WHICH IS SURPRISING FOR US BECAUSE DIABETES IS SO WIDESPREAD AND WE WOULD EXPECT THAT WOULD BE THE PROMINENT CONCERN FOR PEOPLE.

AND SO WE THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO -- FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE DIVVYING UP RESOURCES AND HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS TO KNOW THAT ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH MEDICATIONS IS WRI CRITICAL RIGT NOW.

>> IN TRUTH A COMMUNITY SURVEY AND ALL DIFFERENT KINDS MUCH NICHES NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO.

>> THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE TYPED IN.

THEY COULD ENTER OTHER TYPES OF MEDICINES AND IN THAT RESPONSE WE COULD SEE THAT THYROID MEDICINES AND ASTHMA MEDICINES CAME TO THE TOP OF THE LIST FOR CONCERNS FOR THE RESPONDENTS.

>> HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS BEING USED?

>> IT IS ALREADY BEING USED.

AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, MEG AND PATTY HAYES CAME AND TALKED ABOUT THEIR PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATIONS AND HOW THEY WERE USING DATA TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE USING RESOURCES WISELY.

AND THIS WEEK OUR MAYOR'S OFFICE ANNOUNCED THEY USED THE DATA TO MAKE THE DECISION TO HOLD OFF ON ANNEXATION FOR THE NEXT MONTH -- NOT ANNEXATION -- >> OH, THE -- >> THE EVICTIONS.

>> THE EVICTIONS.

AND ALSO UTILITIES.

HOLDING OFF SHUTTING OFF ANYBODY'S UTILITIES WHO WAS UNABLE TO PAY DURING THIS NEXT MONTH.

>> AND JESSICA, NEXT STEPS.

WHAT TO CAN YOU SEE?

>> THE NEXT STEPS ARE THE SURVEY IS STILL OPEN AND WE KNOW WE ARE IN WAVES.

WE HAD A WAVE AND THE FIRST SURVEY WE CLOSED THE SURVEY THE DAY THAT THE SOCIAL DISTANCING WENT INTO -- OR THE SHELTER IN PLACE WENT IN TO EFFECT AND THE SURVEY IS HOPE NOW AND WE FEEL THAT AS WE TWO THROUGH THESE WAVES OF PRESHELTERRING IS WE ARE SHELTERING WAITING FOR THE SURGE TO TAKE HOLD IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHEN THE SURGE IS TAKING PLACE THIS WILL BE OPEN AND PEOPLE CAN RESPOND WITH WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE BECAUSE THE NEEDS ARE LIKELY TO CHANGE.

AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE DAILY UPTATES WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND GROUP OF COLLABORATORS AS THE DATA COMES IN.

>> CONTINUED SUCCESS.

PART OF THE BOUNCING BACK PORTION.

INFORMATION IS VITAL THERE.

DR.

TAMMY TOSCOS AND JESSICA PATER, BOTH INVOLVED IN RESEARCH AND INFOMATTICS RESEARCH AT THAT AT PARKVIEW HEALTH.

THANK YOU LADIES, SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU IS MUCH.

>> BACK OVER TO JENNIFER.

>> THANK YOU, BRUCE.

WE HAVE DR.

TRENT TOWNE AND YOU HAVE A LONG TITLE.

SO HE IS AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF PHARMACY PRACTICE AT MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF PHARMACY, OF COURSE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IN FORT WAYNE AS A GREAT PLACE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TO HELP US OUT.

>> YOU HAVE A BACKGROUND IN INFECTIOUS DISEASE AS WELL.

>> YES, YES.

>> SO THESE ARE MORE I FEEL LIKE I'M BRUCE HERE BECAUSE I'M ASKING THE MEDICAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT.

ONE THING YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS TONIGHT AND I HEARD PEOPLE ASK THIS LIKE MY MOM WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING JUST THE OTHER DAY.

IF YOU HAVE A FEVER ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING THE CORONAVIRUS, WHAT KIND OF MEDICATION SHOULD YOU TAKE?

EEYIBUPROFEN, TILE LA UNTIL, NAPROXIN.

>> ANY OF THEM.

THE LONGER ANSWER WHICH CONFUSED PEOPLE HAPPENED BACK IN MID MARCH.

A FRENCH HEALTH MINISTER PUT OUT A TWEET AND WE KNOW HOW SOCIAL MEDIA PASSES THINGS AROUND SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T TAKE IBUPROFEN BECAUSE IT INCREASES THE RISK OF GETTING THE DISEASE AND MA MAKING IT MORE SEVERE AND GOOD PASSED AROUND THE WORLD LIKE THE CORONAVIRUS AND ULTIMATELY THERE IS NO BASIS THAT IS STRONG THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVE.

SO YOU KNOW, REALLY THE ANSWER IS WHAT WORKS FOR YOU IS THE BEST DRUG THERE.

WHETHER IT IS IBUPROFEN OR NAPROXEN OR TYLENOL SO LONG AS YOU TAKE AS THE PRESCRIBER RECOMMENDED OR AS THE BOTTLE STATES THAT YOU SHOULD.

>> MY HUSBAND IS A BIG IBUPROFEN FAN BUT I'M ALWAYS ACETAMINOPHEN.

WE HAVE ONE BIG CHARGE OF EACH.

I WOULD NEVER THINK OF TAKING IBUPROFEN.

I ALWAYS GO TO THE OTHER ONE.

>> THERE IS CERTAINLY NO EVIDENCE WITH THAT PARTICULAR INFECTION THERE IS ANY DIFFERENCE IN RATES OF MORTALITY OR ACQUISITION OF THE DISEASE ON THE BASIS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU RECEIVE ONE OR TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER.

SO WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU.

>> THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

>> IN YOUR CASE, TYLENOL.

>> WELL, THAT IS MY BEST FRIEND WHEN I HAVE A HEADACHE SO.

THE OTHER ONE WAS A QUESTION THAT YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS ABOUT ANTIMICROBIALS.

SO BECAUSE I'M -- I HEAR -- I MEAN I THINK WE ARE ALL FLOODED WITH SO MUCH INFORMATION AND THIS IS NEW SO NOT LIKE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS WORTH OF RESEARCH.

WHAT WOULD YOUR I GUESS MAYBE SHORT-TERM ANSWER BE TO THAT?

>> I THINK ALL OF US WISH THERE WAS A MAGIC BULLET THAT WE COULD GIVE TO EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY WOULD MAGICALLY BE FIXED VERY QUICKLY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ISN'T.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS VIRUS FOR A TOTAL OF THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

THERE IS SOME INTERESTING DRUGS THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT.

ONE IS EXPERIMENTAL AND WAS DEVELOPED TO TREAT EBOLA IN SOUTH AFRICA.

IT APPEARS IN THE LAB TOSTER TO HAVEACTIVITY FOR THIS VIRUS.

IT IS BEING STUDIED.

THERE IS CLINICAL TRIALS.

IT IS AVAILABLE FOR USE CALLED COMPASSIONATE USE.

>> DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT.

I HEAR THAT TERM A LOT AND I HEARD THE EXPLANATION BUT MAYBE OTHERS HAVEN'T.

>> COMPASSIONATE USE IS BASICALLY WHEN YOU STILL HAVE AN EXPERIMENTAL DRUG AND IT IS BEING USED BEFORE IT IS MAYBE IN CLINICAL TRIALS AND MAYBE NOT EVEN IN CLINICAL TRIALS FOR POPULATIONS THAT ARE VULNERABLE.

WOMEN PREGNANT AND CHILDREN ARE WHERE IT IS BEING USED NOW NO COMPASSIONATE USE.

ORIGINALLY THEY WERE OFFERING IT, THE COMPANY MAKES THIS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND COMPASSIONATE USE IS NOT SET UP TO REALLY HAVE WIDE DISTRIBUTION CHANNELS.

IT IS MEANT FOR EXACTLY THAT, COMPASSION USE, VERY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES AND NOW WE HAVE AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE FOR SURE BUT NOT FOR WIDE STRAIGHT AHEAD USE.

THEY ARE WORKING HARDS TOWARDS THAT.

THE OTHER DRUGS THAT YOU MIGHT HERE IS A DRUG CALLED HYDROXYCLORICAN.

A SWISS ARMY KNIFE OF MEDICATIONS.

USED FOR LUPUS AND RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS AND MALARIA THAT WE DON'T DEAL WITH IN THE UNITED STATES BUT AROUND THE WORLD IT IS A BIG PROBLEM.

IT APPEARS THAT THIS ORGANISM, THIS VIRUS IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO THAT IN THE LAB.

THERE HAS BEEN STUDIES AND THESE ARE OBSERVATIONAL STUDIES.

NOT THE RANDOMIZED TRIALS THAT WE WANT TO SEE TO PROVE WHETHER A DRUG IS BETTER THAN NO DRUG OR BETTER THAN ANOTHER.

SO IT IS KIND OF WE ARE TRYING IT OUT AND SEEING IF IT WORKS.

SOME STU STUDIES HAVE USED A ZP.

>> USED TO BE IN A GREEN BOX AND YOU GET THAT IN THE PHARMACY.

AND AGAIN IT IS ALL OBSERVATIONAL WORK AND ODD TO US BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A VIRUS AND I USE THE TERM ANTIMICROBIAL AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A VIRUS BY USING ANTIBACTERIAL AND ANTIMALARIAL AND WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT REALLY YOUNG SCIENCE WE ARE TRYING AND THE POSITIONS AND PROVIDERS AND REA RERESEARCHERSE TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK.

>> AND TIME WILL TELL.

>> THERE IS A LOT OF RESEARCH GOING ON OUT THERE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST ROUTE FOR THE MEDICATIONS.

>> WELL, YOUR INSIGHT HAS BEENIATE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU HAVE TO COME BACK BECAUSE I THINK WE WILL TRY TO DO MORE OF THESE PROGRAMS.

DR.

DR.

TRENT TOWNE.

THANK YOU.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL THOSE WORDS.

ALL I HAD TO DO WAS LISTEN TO DR.

TOWNE SAY THEM.

MARK ON THE PHONE BANKS HAS INFORMATION FORS.

>> AND SOME QUALIFIED GUESTS AND WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR TIME.

ONE IS DR.

KEITH DAVIS FIELDING PHONE CALLS FROM THE PHONE BANK AND THE VOL LUNCH BOX TI VOLUNT.

I NOTICE YOU WERE WEARING YOUR MASK BECAUSE THE CDC IS RECOMMENDING THAT EVERYBODY DOES AND DR.

DEB MCMAHAN WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CONVENTIONAL MASK AND I UNDERAND IT YOUR WIFE MADE THAT ONE.

>> SHE DID.

>> IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CONVENTIONAL MASK, WHAT ELSE WILL WORK?

>> WHEN YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT, IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO V. A FULL RESPIRATOR OR N-95 MASK.

A CLOTH MASK IS FINE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, A SCARF, BANDANNA, ANYTHING TO COVER YOUR MOUTH AND NOSE.

AND I WILL TELL YOU FOR ME, I WEAR THE MASK AND I CONSIDER IT DIRTY.

IT KEEPS ME FROM TOUCHING MAY TY MOUTH AND MY NOSE.

WHEN YOU GET HOME, STILL CONSIDER IT DIRTY, TAKE IT OFF AND THROW IT IN THE WASHER AND WASH YOUR HANDS.

I DO THAT WHETHER IT AS MEDICAL MASK AT THE HOSPITAL OR A SCARF OR A CLOTHE MASK.

AND THESE ARE FINE FOR OUT IN THE PUBLIC.

>> AND HOW OFTEN SHOULD YOU WATCH THAT?

>> EVERY TIME AFTER YOU COME HOME FROM USING IT WHEN YOU ARE OUT AT THE STORE OR WHATEVER YOU ARE OUT DOING WHEN YOU ARE NOT SOCIAL DISTANCING.

>> AND THE BEST WAY, OF COURSE, IS IN A WASHING MACHINE WITH DETERGENT.

>> THAT KILLS THE VIRUS.

>> VERY GOOD.

AND, OF COURSE, THE SCARF OR ANYTHING WITH CLOTH.

MORE FOR YOU NOT TRANSMITTING BECAUSE YOU CAN CARRY AND NOT SHOW THE SYMPTOMS.

>> YOU CAN BE AYSYMPTOMATIC AND SPREAD THE VIRUS AND IF YOUR HANDS ARE FREE AND YOU HAVE A SNEEZE OR COUGH VIRUSES WILL BE ON THE HARD SURFACES.

>> ALLOW YOU TO PUT THE MASK BACK ON SINCE WE HAVE SEEN YOUR FACE AND BACK OVER TO BRUCE.

>> WE'LL GET THAT ON.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH KATIE IS VICE PRESIDENT POPULATION HEALTH AND ADVANCED CARE PLANNING FOR AGING AND IN-HOME SERVICES.

THANK YOU TORE TAKING TIME TODAY.

>> OF COURSE.

>> WE HEAR SO MUCH.

NOW AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENDER, COVID-19.

>> CERTAINLY IN THE EARLY STAGE AND EVEN IN ITS CURRENT FORM IT SEEMS ONE OF THE HARDEST HIT GROUPS ARE THE HOLDER CITIZENS.

I HEARD IT DESCRIBED AS A FRAGILE POPULATION.

RIGHT IN THE CROSS HAIRS.

>> THIS AFFECTS EVERY PERSON WE CARE FOR ON A DAILY BASIS.

AFFECTS OUR TEAM AND THOSE THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING FOR US.

>> YOU HAVE A GRAPHIC.

WHO THEN IS AT HIGHER RISK AND HOW CAN YOU SURVEY THE POPULATION AND GET A SENSE OF WHO ALL NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED FOR TREATMENT?

>> WE LOOK FOR CLIENTS WITH MULTIPLE DIAGNOSES.

SO IF THEY HAVE A LOT, DIABETES.

CHRONIC LUNG CONDITIONS.

WE ALSO LOOK AT THE SOCIAL ASPECTS.

DO THEY LIVE ALONE.

THAT WOULD MAKE THEM AT HIGH RISK AS WELL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY CHECKING IN TO SEE HOW THEY ARE DOING.

>> SOME COMMUNITIES ARE LOCK DOWN SENIOR FACILITIES AND IT IS CREATING SOME ANXIETY AND HOW DO I COMMUNICATE WITH MY LOVED ONE THAT I CAN'T SEE?

>> AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS SO THEY CAN STILL COMMUNICATE VIA VIE PADS AND FACE TIME AND ALL OF -- E iPADS AND FACE TIME.

WE ARE DOING A LOT OF EXTRA PHONE CALLS.

SPENDING A LOT OF EXTRA TIME ON THE PHONE JUST AS A FRIENDLY VOICE AND SOMEBODY THAT THEY CAN TALK TO AND ASK HARD QUESTIONS TO BECAUSE THEY'RE SCARED.

>> AND YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THE COMMUNICATION PART, ARE YOU SEEING OTHER NEEDS ARISE IN YOUR WORK THAT MAYBE ARE NOT KINDS OF HEADLINES THAT WE FIRST SEE?

>> MEALS HAS BEEN PROBABLY OUR BIGGEST REQUEST SINCE ALL OF THIS STARTED.

WE DO THE HOME DELIVERED MEAL PROGRAM FOR SENIORS AND WE ARE ADDING PEOPLE TO THE PROGRAM ON A DAILY BASIS RIGHT NOW.

IN FACT, WE JUST HAD OVER 12,00E FOOD DELIVERED LAST WEEK SO THAT WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE MEALS EVEN IF MAYBE THE DELIVERIES ARE IMPACTED BY SOME OF THIS.

WE ARE DOING A LOT WITH CARE GIVERS MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE TOOLS AND INFORMATION TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AS WELL AS THE PERSON THAT THEY ARE CARING FOR.

>> BRINGS US TO THE FAMILY CARE GIVER CENTER.

>> YES.

>> TELL ME ABOUT THAT.

>> WE HAVE SPECIALIZED STAFF TRAINED TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE CARE GIVER AND REALLY PROVIDE THE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT AS WELL AS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES AND HELP THAT THEY NEED IN THE HOME TO BE THE BEST CARE GIVER FOR THEIR LOVED ONE.

>> WHAT KIND OF SERVICES MIGHT I RECEIVE IF I KNOW THAT MY PARENTS COULD USE, YOU KNOW, OR THAT I NEED TO BE SURE I'M AWARE OF THE NEED THEY HAVE AND I MAY NOT EVEN SEE IT IN PLAIN SIGHT?

>> SO THEY DO A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AS FAR AS HAVE YOU SEEN ANY CHANGES IN YOUR LOVED ONE IN THE COMES DAYS AND LOOKING FOR THE VOICE TO SAY SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED A LITTLE MORE HELP AND LET ME HELP YOU DO THAT.

AND THEN CONNECTING TO THOSE OTHER LOCAL RESOURCES SO TO DO THAT.

>> AND AS FOLKS REACH OUT THROUGH THE FAMILY CARE GIVER CENTER I'M SURE SOME WILL SAY THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

HOW MUCH IS THAT EXACTLY?

>> THERE IS NO COST FOR THAT PROGRAM AND ALL OF YOUR PROGRAMS THERE IS VERY LITTLE OR NO COST TO RECEIVE HELP.

IF SOMEBODY HAS QUESTIONS OR THEY ARE NOT SURE WHAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE AS AN AGENCY WE PRIDE ON JUST CALL.

CALL THE AGENCY AND TALK TO THE OPTIONS COUNSELORS AND THE RESOURCE CENTER AND THEY WILL GET YOU TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

>> YOU ARE SEEING INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN NOW FOR THAT.

THERE IS ALSO A WEBSITE OF SOMETHING ABOUT WHICH I'M NOT FAMILIAR.

AC SENIOR RESPONSE TEAM.ORG.

TELL ME ABOUT THAT?

>> THE SENIOR RESPONSE TEAM CREATED A WEBSITE THAT IS PACKED FULL OF COVID-19 SPECIFIC RESOURCES.

WE ARE GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO I CONTACT MY DOCTOR WITH ALL OF THE NEW VIRTUAL APPLICATIONS.

GROCERY RESOURCES.

PHARMACIES.

ADVANCED CARE PLANNING.

EVERYTHING IS THERE KIND OF A ONE-STOP SHOP FOR FOLKS.

>> AND IF I REACHED THIS PLACE WHICH IS NORMALLY FULL OF ITS OWN EXPERIENCES YET TO BE HAD OF BEING THE PARENT TO YOUR PARENT, TO BEING A PARENT OF A PARENT IN AN ERA OF COVID-19.

>> IT IS DIFFERENT.

IT IS ANOTHER LEVEL FOR SURE.

AND THAT IS WHY WE FELT LIKE HAVING A PLACE FOR THAT, FOR PEOPLE TO GO SPECIFIC ALREADY FOYE COVID-19 RESOURCES WAS REALLY IMPORTANT DURING THIS TIME.

>> AND AGAIN, AGING IHS.ORG IS THE EASIEST WAY TO FIND IT ON THE LOCAL COMPUTER OR LOOK RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN WHERE EVERYONE CAN FIND IT AND A TOLL FREE NUMBER AS WELL BECAUSE YOU SERVE A MULTIPLE COUNTY AREA.

>> ALL NINE COUNTIES IN NORTHEAST INDIANA.

A VERY LARGE AREA AND JUST CALL US OR GO TO THE WEBSITE.

>> WILL DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> KATIE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR AGING AND IN-HOME SERVICES.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OVER TO JENNIFER NOW.

>> THANK YOU, BRUCE.

WITH US TONIGHT, MATTHEW PURKEY.

I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD SAY WELCOME TO FORT WAYNE.

HE IS THE BRAND NEW CEO AND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED WAY OF ALLEN COUNTY.

JUST STARTED FEBRUARY 3 AND NOW SIX WEEKS LATER YOU HAVE THIS HUGE ISSUE TO DEAL WITH.

HE IS SUCH A GREAT GUY, WE HAVE ONLY BEEN TALKING FOR A FEW MINUTES.

YOU WERE A MARINE IN THE MARINE CORPS.

WORKING ON YOUR PHD AND THREE LITTLE CHILDREN AND YOUR WIFE IS A HIGH SCHOOL SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER STILL HOLDING DOWN THE FORT IN OHIO.

CLOSED ON THE NEW HOUSE TODAY.

YOU NEED A FEW MINUTES WITH DR.

FAWVER AT THE END OF THE SHOW.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

YOU HAVE ALL THIS ON YOUR PLATE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR STAFF, YOU ARE ALL WORKING REMOTELY BUT YOU HAVE TO BE INUNDATED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR HELP SO THEY ARE TURNING TO YOU.

>> ONE OF THE QUESTIONS SOMEONE WAS ASKED EARLIER, I THINK IT WAS DR.

FAWVER IS WHAT IS EVERYBODY DOING AT HOME.

THERE IS A FEELING OF HOPELESSNESS GOING THROUGH EVERYBODY IN ISOLATION WONDERING WHAT WE CAN DO AND UNITED WAY IS ABLE TO STEP IN AND SAY HERE IS A WAY TO TOUCH MANY, MANY LIVES STRATEGICALLY.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT YOU ARE ALWAYS DOING CAPITAL CAMPAIGNS WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS IN TOWNS AND THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOREVER BUT YOU KIND OF STOPD THAT AND STARTED THE EMERGENCY RELIEF FUND.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I'M AMAZED BY HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ALREADY RAISED.

TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IT, HOW DOES IT WORK?

>> THE EMERGENCY RELIEF FUND IS A COMMU COMMUNITY CLAYATION TO N FUNDERS TO -- COLLABORATION TO STREAMLINE TO GET RESOURCES TO THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST NOW.

WE HAVE AMAZING PARTNERS.

>> WE HAVE A GRAPHIC LISTING ALL OF THEM.

QUITE A FEW.

>> EVERYONE FROM THE FOLINGER FOUNDATION AND SAINT JOSEPH COMMUNITY HEALTH.

MEIJER, PARKVIEW COMMUNITY HEALTH.

AND THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AND BRAD LOWE HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC MENTOR.

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND THIS WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE IF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY DID NOT BUY IN.

>> AND YOU ARE AS OF TODAY YOU ARE CLOSE TO RAISING IS IT 2.7 MILLION?

>> $2.7 MILLION.

>> AMAZING.

>> EITHER PLEDGED, COMMITTED, GIVEN OR WE HAVE ONE ABLE TO APPLY FOR.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING OFF OF NOW.

AND, ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS NOT UNITED WAY'S EFFORT ALONE.

THIS IS A COMPLETE COMMUNITY COLLABORATION AND PEOPLE COMING ALONGSIDE AND SAYING WE WANT TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

UNITED WAY JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THE VERY PARTICULAR POSITION TO PRESENT THE MECHANISM IN WHICH THE FUNDS COULD BE GATHERED AND DISTRIBUTED QUICKLY.

>> WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE FUNDS?

A LOT OF MONEY TO WORK WITH BUT I'M SURE IT GOES QUICKLY BECAUSE THE NEED IS GREAT.

>> THE TYPICAL UNITED WAY CAMPAIGN SEASON HAS BEEN PUT ON A STRATEGIC PAUSE.

IT WOULD BE SOCIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO CONTINUE TO ASK BUSINESSES FOR MONEY FROM THE EMPLOYEES EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE LAID OFF ONE THIRD OR HALF OF THE STAFF.

WE REALIZED THIS IMMEDIATELY AND SHIFTED OUR ENERGY AND THE AMADING TEAM HAS ADAPTED AND PIVOTED ACCORDEDLY.

WE PROVIDED THE MECHANISM.

THE COMMUNITY CAME ALONGSIDE US AND NOW WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE HELPED FORM AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN WHICH THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY, THE NONPROFIT SECTOR, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, EVERYONE FROM DATA BEING USED, WE HAVE GATHERED A NEW TYPE OF COMMITTEE IN WHICH THE COMMUNITY IS TELLING US WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.

THIS IS NOT UNITED WAY SAYING HERE ARE THE PRIORITIES AND HERE IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO FUND.

THIS IS UNITED WAY PUTTING THE ENERGY INTO RAISING THE MONEY AND THEN THE COMMUNITY TELLING US WHERE IT IS NEEDED.

>> IS THERE -- I MEAN ARE THERE CERTAIN AGENCIES THAT YOU KNOW WILL BE GIVEN FUNDS OR BECAUSE I SAW YOU LISTED SOME THINGS.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WILL DO THIS IN PHASES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THE BUSINESS MODEL IS SHIFTING AS FAST AS THE NEEDS ARE.

THIS LOOKS NOTHING LIKE IT DOES STOOD AND THE SAME TRUE FOR THE NONPROFIT SECTOR.

OUR GOAL IS TO HOLD UP AND EMPOWER THE ORGANIZATIONS ON THE FRONTLINE FIGHTING COVID-19 AND THE CORONAVIRUS.

THAT WILL COME IN PHASES.

THE FUNDING MODEL WILL CHANGE.

IT IS BEING ALTERED DAILY WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SELLING US THEY NEED.

THE ORGANIZATIONS ON THE FRONTLINE, THE 501 (C) 3.

THEY NEED TO SAY UNITED WAY HERE IS OUR NEED AND HOW WE WILL USE THE MONEY AND WE NEED IT NOW AND WE WILL DISTRIBUTE OR EXECUTE THE FUNDS IMMEDIATELY ALSO.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GRAPHIC WITH ALL OF YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

SO IF PEOPLE -- I MEAN IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING TONIGHT OR THAT BELONG TO ORGANIZATIONS OR COMPANIES THAT CAN HELP, IT THIS CONTACT INFORMATION HOW THEY COULD LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO?

>> GO TO UNITED WAY ALLEN COUNTY.ORG, OUR LANDING PAGE IS THE EMERGENCY RELIEF FUND.

OUR PROMISE IS THAT THE FUNDS WILL BE INVESTED IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE.

THE REASON WE HAVE GONE TO IS H100%OF THIS FUND WILL GO BACK O THE COMMUNITY.

NO ORGANIZATION IS TAKINGED A MINUTE FEES OR BENEFITING FROM IT.

A COMMUNITY COLLABORATION THAT THE MONEY IS RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY AND INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY BY THE COMMUNITY.

>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

I'M SURE WE WILL ALL BE GETTING CALLS AND LITERATURE IN THE MAIL AND I THINK IT MEANS A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO YOU JUST SAW THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND PLEASE IF YOU CAN HELP IN YOU TIME, RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU, MATTHEW PURKEY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I WILL TURN IT BACK TO MARK OB THE PHONES.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH DR.

KEITH DAVIS HERE WITH ME ON THE PHONE BANK.

AND DR.

KEITH THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, ONCE AGAIN.

AND WE ARE GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR THE SEGMENT AND TALK ABOUT THE SOCIAL DISTANCING BECAUSE SPRING HAS SPUN.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL OUTSIDE.

I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING AND TALKING VERY CLOSE TOGETHER.

SO EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE OUTSIDE YOU STILL NEED TO PRACTICE THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YEAH, I THINK I WOULD PROBABLY DRIVE THAT HOME.

SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR TWO WEEKS.

IT IS DARK AND GLOOMIA AND STUCK OUTSIDE.

ITS OKAY TO TAKE THE FAMILY UNIT AND WALK.

BUT IT IS PROBABLY NOT OKAY TO INVITE A FAMILY WITH TWO OTHER KIDS AND GET OUT ON THE PLAY GROUND.

YOU STILL NEED TO MAINTAIN THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

THE HOSPITALS ARE GETTING FULL.

THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS WILL BE CRITICAL FOR THE DISTANCING.

>> LEBRONLET'S GO BACK TO BRUCED DR.

MCMAHAN.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND DR.

DEB MCMAHAN ALLEN COUNTY HEALTH COMMISSIONER JOINS US AGAIN.

AND YET IN WHAT WAS JUST SAID PEOPLE CLING TO THAT THINKING OKAY, TWO TO THREE WEEKS AND THEN WE'RE GOOD.

>> NO, NO.

THEY DON'T CALL ME DR.

DOOM AND GLOOM FOR NOTHING.

WE ARE SAYING WE HOPE THAT THE WORST WILL BE OVER IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND WE WILL PEAK BUT STILL DEALING WITH THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

>> NO MATTER HOW E HIGH THE ALTITUDE WE HOPE MORE OF A MESA AND THEN JUST FLAT LAND BUT THAT WILL TAKE TIME.

>> THATLE TAKE A LITTLE TIME.

>> THE OTHER THOUGHT THAT CAME UP WAS THE NOTION OF OKAY, YOU CAN GO FOR THE WALK AND GO FOR THE BIKE RIDE, AROUND THE HOUSE, AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT IS GREAT AROUND YOUR HOME.

WHAT ABOUT THE HOMELESS?

>> GOOD QUESTION.

AND EVEN WE HAD A CALLER CALL IN TONIGHT ABOUT THAT.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH OUR FOLKS WHO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE ALL THE TIME IN DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE HOMELESS AND THEY ARE WORKING HARD ON THIS.

FOLKS FROM THE RESCUE MISSION, THE Y, THE HOMELESS COUNSEL OR THE PLANNING COUNCIL.

A LOT OF FOLKS WORKING ON THIS AND HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK WE WILL HAVE A PLAN TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC ON WHAT WE ARE DOING.

ANOTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT SHOWERING.

I KNOW THAT THE RESCUE MISSION IS WORK ON AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HAVING A TRAILER WITH SHOWERS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN TERMS OF THAT.

BUT THAT SHOULD BE COMING SOON.

>> AS WE HAVE TIME, LET'S BE SURE WE GET TWO IMPORTANT POINTS IN GRAPHICALLY AS THEY SAY.

COMPARE CONTRAST BETWEEN FLU-BUSINESSED PANDEMICS AND H1N1 AND COVID-19.

THERE THE CHART.

>> THAT IS WHAT IS MAKING THIS PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT IS THIS IS NOT A FLU-BASED PANDEMIC.

SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAD BEFORE, YOU KNOW, TREATMENT, YOU KNOW, ANTIVIRALS AND ANTIINFLUENZAS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND TESTING IT WAS ABOUT TWEAKING SOMETHING THAT WAS EXISTING AND THEN MAKING IT WORK.

SAME WITH THE VACCINE.

TWEAKING AND MAKING IT WORK FOR H 1NIS.

HERE IS ONE IS STARTING FROM SCRATCH.

I KNOW EVERYONE IS FRUSTRATED WITH THE LACK OF TESTING AND TREATMENT.

THIS IS A WHOLE NOW THING.

IT IS NOT LIKE ASKING GM TO GO FROM MAKING CARS TO VENTILATORS.

LIKE ASKING TO GO FROM CARS TO BUFFALOS.

IT IS A WHOLE NEW THING AND THAT IS WHY IT IS TAKING SO LONG TO GET THESE THINGS IN PLACE.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE MORTALITY RATE IS SO MUCH HIGHER THAN THIS THAN IT WAS FOR H1N1.

IT IS A MORE DIFFICULT DISEASE.

PEOPLE ARE NOT DRAGGING THEIR FEET, THESE THINGS TAKE TIME.

>> PEOPLE SAID THE REASON WE ARE SURGING IS MORE RESULTS FROM TESTING ARE RETURNING AND WE ARE ABLE TO ADD MORE NUMBERS MORE QUICKLY AND THIS IS -- SO -- >> I THINK WE ARE SURGING -- THAT DOES HELP TO BE ABLE TO EYE DENT FOYE.

WE ARE SEARCHING JUST BECAUSE AND WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS THIS IS A VERY AND I THINK IF YOU CAN HAVE THE LAST SLIDE THIS IS A VERY EASE WILLY TRANSMITTED VIRUS.

THAT IS WHAT IS MAKING IT REALLY SUCH A DIFFICULT -- IT IS JUST CREASELY TRANSMITTED AND MAKING IT CHALLENGING IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO CONTROL THE SPREAD.

THAT IS WHY ALL OF THE SOCIAL DISTANCING THINGS AND OWN EVEN CONSIDERING USING FACE MASKS BECAUSE THIS IS EASILY TRANSMITTED FROM PERSON TO PERSON.

>> AND WE DON'T GRASP THE GOOD WE THINK WE ARE DOING AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANY AFFIRMATION THAT IS GOOD, KEEP DOING.

ON THE GRAPHIC, A FLU ON THE LEFT AND COVID-19 ON THE RIGHT.

AND -- >> IT IS JUST A VISUAL THAT THIS IS EASILY TRANSMITTED AND THAT AGAIN MAKES IT MUCH MORE CHALLENGING TO DEAL WITH.

I WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A VISION FOR THIS IS REALLY A CHALLENGING SITUATION ALL AROUND.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT YOUR SHOW IS GIVING OUR COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE ALL OF THE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER, PEOPLE PUTTING FACES TO NAMES AND TORTION BE ABLE TO SEE, MY GOODNESS, THEY ARE THINKING OF THE HOMELESS AND AGED AND THIS AND THAT AND WHAT THE FAA.GOV PHILANTHROPY IS DOING.

UPA GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THEIR COMMUNE ORGANIZATIONS AND LEADERS IN ACTION BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS WORKING -- HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS DILIGENTLY FOR WEEKS.

IS IT IS SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR LET LETTING PEOPLE WHAT IT GOING ON.

>> AND FOR ALL OF THOSE ON THE FIRST THREE SHOWS AND NEXT FRIDAY WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER HOUR LONG COMMUNITY FORUM STARTING AT 7:00 AND DR.

JAY FAWVER WILL HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH ROUND TABLE ON MONDAY NIGHT AT 7:30.

THERE IS YOUR PROGRAM NEXT FRIDAY NIGHT AT 7:00.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE THAT.

AND THERE IS JAY'S PROGRAM WITH HIS TWO SPECIAL GUESTS AS WELL.

IT IS -- IT SEEMS THAT -- I HAD A PERFECTLY GOOD QUESTION AND WENT TEMPORARILY RIGHT OFF MY DESK.

WHAT ARE YOU -- THE GOVERNORS IF ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY.

THAT IS WHERE I WAS.

NOT UNEXPECTED.

>> NO.

>> DO WE EXPECT ANOTHER TWO WEEK CHUNK AFTER THE NEXT TWO WEEK CHUNK?

>> CAN'T PREDICT.

IS THE MART TO TAKE THIS I WOULD SAY A WEEK AT A TIME, A ONE OF WEEKS AT A TIME.

IT IS WORKING.

WHAT WE ARE DOING IS SOUND AND REASONABLE.

IT IS WORKING.

DON'T RUSH IT.

THE LESSON FROM 1918 WAS FORT WAYNE WAS THE FIRST PLACE TO IMPLEMENT THE RESTRICTION OF MOVEMENT AND CLOSED THE CHURCHES AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS.

LIFTED A LITTLE TOO EARLY AND SAW THE RESURGENCE.

LET'S NOT MOVE TOO QUICKLY TO REMOVE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE WORKING.

JUST SHELTER IN PLACE WITH A SMILE ON YOUR FACE.

>> AND ON THAT POETIC GESTURE NO WHERE ELSE BUT TO SAY THANK YOU TO DR.

DEB MCMAHAN, HEALTH COMMISSIONER FOR ALLEN COUNTY.

SHE WILL BE WITH US NEXT WEEK AND WE HOPE YOU WILL BE AS WELL.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE COMPUTER ON THE TOUR OF RESOURCES A LOT RIGHT THERE AT ALLEN COUNTY HEALTH.COM.

FOR ALL OF THE GUESTS THIS EVENING AND JENNIF JENNIFER ANDK EVANS I'M BRUCE.

FROM THE ENTIRE STAFF HERE.

TAKE CARE AND STAY SAFE AND WE'LL SEE YOU ON TV.

GOOD NIGHT.