>> GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO CORONAVIRUS, A LIVE COMMUNITY FOR HIM I AM HERE ON PBS FORT WAYNE.

THANKS FOR TUNING IN TONIGHT.

I'M MARK EVANS.

DURING THE NEXT HOUR YOU WILL HEAR FROM EXPERTS WHO WILL ADDRESS VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE VIRUS AND HELP US UNDERSTAND AND ADJUST AS WE BEGIN OPENING I AM THE STATE AND ADJUSTING TO A NEW NORMAL.

OUR GUESTS TONIGHT INCLUDE THE ALAN COUNTY HEALTH COMMISSIONER, DR.

DEB McMAHON, JOHN OF GREAT WANE, AND DR.

JEFFREY BORD AND GINA HATCHWAY FROM COMMUNITY HEALTH.

WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE BANKS IN OUR STUDIO.

TONIGHT ON THE PHONES WE HAVE A MED STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI IN KANSAS CITY.

DAWN DAVIS IS A REGISTERED NURSE.

DR.

PAUL OF THE IU HEALTHCARE I, McKAYLA CAMPBELL AND BJ, ALL REPRESENTING IU FORT WAYNE MEDICAL SCHOOL.

WE APPRECIATE THEM BEING HERE TONIGHT.

ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO BE CHECKING ON THE PHONE BANK THROUGHOUT THE SHOW TO HEAR ABOUT THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS.

JOINING ME TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME DURING OUR SERIES IS DR.

LISA HATCHER.

SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE INDIANA STATE MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, ALSO KNOWN AT ISMA, AND SHE'S ALSO A PHYSICIAN IN COLUMBIA CITY.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

>> IT'S AN EXCITING MOMENT.

EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T GET TOO EXCITED.

BUT THE GOVERNOR DID, OF COURSE, ANNOUNCE THE REOPENING GRADUALLY OF THE STATE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN GO BACK TO OUR OLD HABITS.

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL AS WE BEGIN TO OPEN UP THE STATE, TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT TOGETHER, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE CONGREGATING IN VARIOUS PLACES, AND IT'S NECESSARY STILL TO WEAR A MASK IF YOU ARE OUT IN PUBLIC AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO WASH YOUR HANDS FREQUENTLY, ESPECIALLY AFTER YOU HAVE TOUCHED ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S YOUR FACE, FOOD, THE RESTROOM, A DOORKNOB, WHATEVER YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH.

>> TONIGHT YOU AND I WILL BE FIELDING SOME PHONE CALLS FROM THE PHONE BANK PASS WE COME IN.

THE TELEPHONE NUMBER IS ON YOUR SCREEN.

866-969-2721.

CALL ANYTIME IN THE NEXT HOUR.

OUR PHONE BANK PROFESSIONALS ARE CERTAINLY TREADDY FOR YOUR CALLS AND HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HELP YOU.

>> YOU ARE A BABY DOCTOR.

>> I'M A FAMILY PHYSICIAN.

I TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS FROM CRADLE TO GRAVE.

>> VERY GOOD.

HAVE YOU NOTICED ANY PROBLEMS, NECESSARILY?

>> YES.

ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE NOTICED IS THAT PEOPLE ARE FEARFUL OF COMING FOR CARE WHEN THEY NEED IT.

SOMETIMES WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM THAT THOUGH NEED TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM OR THEY NEED TO GO TO A RESPIRATORY CLINIC.

THEY ARE SO AFRAID THAT BY GOING OUT THEY ARE GOING TO EXPOSE THEMSELVES.

AND YOU DO NEED TO ACCESS NECESSARY CARE.

SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE'VE NOTICED THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY AFRAID AND ARE LIMITING THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHRONIC ILLNESSES >> RIGHT NOW WE WANT TO GO TO BRUCE ON THE PRIME TIME SET.

WE HAVE NOR SPECIAL GUESTS.

>> THIS IS THE ALLEN COUNTY HEALTH COMMISSIONER DR.

DOUG McMAHON AND NEXT TO HER AND ME IS DR.

JAMES CAMERON.

HE'S A NEOTOLL GIST AND ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE START EACH PROGRAM BY TRYING TO FIND OUT THE STATUS OF THINGS, AND THANKFULLY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT COMES THROUGH.

IT SEEMS THE NEVER-ENDING GRAPH, BUT INDEED WHERE ARE WE NOW, DOCTOR?

>> YEAH, AS WE CAN SEE ON THE DATA, WE'RE APPROACHING STILL A LEVELING OFF PERIOD.

THE CASES ARE STARTING TO, OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS AS THE GOVERNOR ENTERED, AND EVEN IN THIS COUNTY, A NUMBER EVER NEW CASES ARE STARTING TO SLOW DOWN.

WE AREN'T SEEING AS MANY TODAY AS WE WERE SEEING TWO WEEKS AGO IN TERMS OF NEW CASES.

BUT THE NUMBERS ARE STILL QUITE HIGH.

WE STARTED OFF BACK IN MARCH WITH ONE OR TWO CASES KNOWN IN THE COUNTY AND TODAY WE ARE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 600 THAT HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED IN THE COUNTY.

SO AS WE GO BACK TO TRYING TO GET CLOSER TO WHAT THE NEW NORMAL IS GOING TO BE, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, AS DR.

HATCHER SAID, COMING AT THIS WITH A BIT OF CAUTION.

IF WE AREN'T CAUTIOUS, WE COULD END UP BACK TO WHERE WE WERE.

SOCIAL DISTANCING HAS TO BE A KEY, BEING CAREFUL AND WASHING YOUTH HANDS IN PUBLIC.

AND REALLY KEY, IF YOU ARE SICK, STAY HOME.

>> AND ALL OF WHAT WE WILL BE SEEING AND SHARING HERE IN THESE GRAPHICS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WEBSITE, AND THE ONE THAT WAS UP A MOMENT AGO WITH THE BLUE HORIZONTAL LINES, THAT WAS PAINTING A DIFFERENT REPRESENTATION OF THE DATA.

TELL US WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT.

>> SO WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF CASES HERE ON THE SCREEN, YOU HAVE THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES THAT ARE BEING REPORTED EACH DAY.

YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS A PEAK RIGHT AROUND THE MIDDLE OF APRIL, ON APRIL 14th.

AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE'VE STARTED TO SEE A DECREASE IN THE NEW CASES EACH DAY.

THOSE ARE THE DATA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING AND LOOKING AT EACH DAY AS WE SAY, ARE WE STARTING TO SEE A NEW UPTICK OR SURGE?

>> WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING PIECES OF GOOD NEWS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.

THE GREATER AVAILABILITY OF TESTING, NOT JUST HERE IN THE COUNTY BUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

AND FIRST LET ME HAVE YOU COMMENT ON THAT AS FAR AS THOSE ASSETS DEPLOYED STATEWIDE AND THE IMPACT OF THOSE ASSETS ON NUMBERS LIKE WE'RE SEEING IN THE GRAPHS.

>> FORTUNATE -- AND DR.

BOARD IS GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT TESTING.

THERE ARE A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT TESTING AND WHAT IT CAN DO FOR US AS A COMMUNITY.

BUT WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT KROGER PARTNERED WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO OFFER FREE TESTING AT BISHOP AT THE LAST FEW DAYS.

THEY HAVE BEEN JAM-PACKED FULL.

SO IT SHOWS YOU THAT WE STILL NEED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER TESTING IN MORE CONVENIENT WAYS FOR PEOPLE OTHER THAN HAVING TO GO THROUGH A HOSPITAL OR THEIR DOCTOR'S OFFICE.

BUT RIGHT NOW THROUGH ISDH THEY HAVE BROADENED THEIR CRITERIA SO MORE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO TESTING.

IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, ABOUT A MONTH AGO ONLY THE SICKEST OF THE SICK WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET TESTING.

THE REST OF THE PEOPLE WERE PRESUMED COVID POSITIVE, BUT NO TESTING TO SHOW THAT.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF OUR SLIDES WE HAVE AN THE HOSPITALIZATIONS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE SEE A DECREASING NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DIAGNOSED WITH COVID THAT WERE ACTUALLY HOSPITALIZED OR ACTUALLY HAVE ARDS, ACUTE RESPIRATORY DISTRESS SYNDROME, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE ARE OFFERING COVID TESTING TO MORE PEOPLE.

IF YOU ARE WELL ENOUGH -- BEFORE, IF YOU WERE WELL ENOUGH TO DRIVE TO A DRIVE THROUGH CLINIC, YOU WEREN'T GOING TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR TESTING.

NOW WE ARE BROADENING THAT CRITERIA.

SO I'M GLAD THAT MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE SYMPTOMATIC.

AGAIN, THE NASAL SWAB IS REALLY ONLY AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY HAVING SYMPTOMS OF COVID.

SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT TESTING IS MORE WIDELY AVAILABLE.

>> ON THE ONE HAND, WE HAVE MORE TESTING, AND THAT COULD MEAN MORE CASES COULD BE IDENTIFIED AND HOSPITALIZATIONS LEVELING OFF, ON THEIR WAY DOWN, AND THAT'S NOT INCONSISTENT?

>> CORRECT.

SINCE WE ARE OPENING UP THE TESTING THERE'S NO BROAD CRITERIA.

YOU WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO HAD MILDER SYMPTOMS THAT ARE GOING TO TURN UP POSITIVES SO THE NUMBERS WILL BE HIGHER BUT HOPEFULLY WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE NUMBER OF SEVERE ILLNESSES THAT ARE PRESENTING AT THE HOSPITAL AND BEING ADMITTED TO EITHER THE GENERAL WARD OR TO THE ICU, THAT THOSE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO DECREASE.

>> AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT WIDER TESTING IS REALLY THE CONTACT TRACING THAT GOES WITH IT.

SO FOR EVERY CASE THAT WE IDENTIFY, WHAT WE DO IS GO BACK, INTERVIEW THAT PATIENT, IT'S A 7-PAGE INTERVIEW FORM, GO THROUGH, INTERVIEW AND IDENTIFY ALL THE CONTACTS AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE THEN PLACED INTO QUARANTINE.

SO THE BENEFIT OF TESTING IS NOT ONLY TO MAKE A DIAGNOSIS FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL SYMPTOMATIC PERSON, BUT THEN ALSO TO BE ABLE TO QUARANTINE THE FOLKS AND MINIMIZE COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO COULD BE AN ASYMPTOMATIC SPREADER OF DISEASE.

THAT'S THE BENEFIT, IS THE CONTACT TRACING THAT IS COUPLED WITH THAT TEST.

>> WE WANTED TO HAVE A PORTION OF THIS CONVERSATION INVOLVED IN MYTH BUSTING, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THEM AND WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES ON THIS, BUT ONE WERE THEM DEALING WITH THE DISCUSSION OF NUMBERS AS WE I APPROACHING SOMETHING LIKE THE CORONAVIRUS FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.

ESTIMATES OF DEATH VERSUS REALITY OF THOSE NUMBERS, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT POSITIVE.

BUT AGAIN, PEOPLE WERE THINKING HIGH, IT'S COMING IN LOW, BUT THE CONCERN IS STILL REAL.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S STILL REAL.

YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, JUST COMING OFF OF THE HIGHS, THE PEAKS OF THE NUMBER OF ILLNESSES THAT ARE COMING IN EACH DAY.

WE ARE JUST COMING DOWN FROM THE PEAKS OF THE DEATHS THAT ARE OCCURRING EACH DAY, AND HOPEFULLY WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE NUMBERS DECREASE OVER THE COURSE OF THE MONTH OF MAY AND JUNE AND INTO THE SUMMER.

BUT THEY AREN'T GOING TO GO TO ZERO TOMORROW.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE THE NUMBERS, AND UNFORTUNATELY THE 62,000 IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE OVER THE COURSE OF MAY AND OVER THE COURSE OF JUNE.

>> SOMETHING ELSE IN THE MYTH DEPARTMENT IS THE IDEA THAT WHEN SUMMER COMES OR WHEN WE REOPEN, THIS IS GOING TO MEAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET A BREAK, THAT THE VIRUS WILL GO AWAY AND THAT IT MIGHT COME BACK IN THE FALL.

>> WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT A RESURGENCE IN THE FALL.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT REALLY GO AWAY YET.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK IT WILL GO AWAY AND WE MAY NOT SEE A RESURGENCE THE FALL.

THE REALITY IS IT'S STILL OUT THERE NOW.

BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO DO THE MEASURES WITH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THEY CAN WAIT UNTIL FALL.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

>> WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO REOPEN AND RETURN TO A NORMAL, AND YET LIVING AT THE SAME TIME, COHABIT EIGHTING WITH THIS.

>> HOPEFULLY WE DON'T SEE 100,000 TO 200,000 DEATHS IN THE COUNTRY, AND YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE COUNTRY SHUTTING DOWN OVER THE SCORINGS OF THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS.

IF WE REOPEN, WE ARE TAKING A STEP BACKWARDS FROM THE CAUTIONS PUT INTO PLACE SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OR THE NUMBERS MIGHT GO BACK UP.

>> AND IN THE LESS THAN A MINUTE WE HAVE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING IN YOUR MIND YOU WANT TO BE SURE TO GET OUT REGARDING WHAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING AS ANY KIND OF NEW NORMAL IS UNFOLDING BEFORE US HERE?

>> YEAH.

CERTAINLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE TO -- THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AVOIDING HEALTHCARE NEED TO GET BACK OUT.

THEY NEED TO BE TAKING CARE OF THEIR REGULAR HEALTHCARE NEEDS.

THOSE WITH HEART CONDITIONS, LUNG CARE CONDITIONS, THEY NEED IT TO BE SEEING THEIR DOCTORS, AND TAKING MEDICATIONS AND MAKING SURE THEY AREN'T A HIDDEN CASUALTY OF THE COVID VIRUS.

THEY MAY NOT GET SICK BECAUSE IT'S COVID, BUT THEY MAY GET SICK BECAUSE THEY HAVE NEGLECTED THEIR CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITIONS.

>> ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?

>> I THINK HE SUMMED IT UP NICELY.

WE NEED TO NOT BE AFRAID TO SEEK MEDICAL CARE, TAKE CARE OF OUR CONDITIONS AND IF WE WANT TO KEEP THE NUMBERS DOWN WHEN WE REOPEN, WE HAVE TO DO ALL OF THIS KIND OF STUFF.

IT'S THE NEW NORMAL.

>> AND THEY COME IN DESIGNER COLORS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> WE WANT TO THANK DR.

JAMES CAMERON AND DR.

DEB McMAHON.

WE WILL RETURN, AND WE WILL ALL NOT GO ANYWHERE WHILE WE HEAD TO THE OTHER CORNER AND SAY HELLO TO JENNIFER.

>> HELLO, BRUCE.

WITH ME IS JOHN.

I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS, PROBABLY A HOUSEHOLD NAME NOW, JOHN, BECAUSE HE'S PRESIDENT AND CEO OF GREATER FORT WAYNE, INC.

AND THE CORONAVIRUS HAS HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND ALSO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND ECONOMICS.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT, AND A REALLY GREAT WEBINAR SERIES THAT IS FREE THAT, IF YOU MISSED IT YESTERDAY AND TODAY, THERE IS STILL A CHANCE TO CATCH IN ON THIS MONDAY, RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS REALLY TRYING TO HELP BUSINESSES UNDERSTAND THE THINGS THEY NEED TO THINK P WITH AS WE HEAD DOWN A PATH TOWARD REOPENING.

IN CONVERSATIONS WITH DR.

McMAHON EARLY ON, WE DECIDED WE NEEDED TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO THE BUSINESSES.

WE PARTNERED WITH PARKVIEW HEALTH, AND THE NORTHEAST REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP IN ORDER TO PUT ON A SERIES OF SEMINARS FOCUSED ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES.

SO RETAIL IS DIFFERENT THAN RESTAURANTS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN OFFICE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN MANUFACTURING.

SO WE HOSTED SEVEN WEBINARS OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS.

WE HAVE AN EIGHTH ON MONDAY WITH EDUCATORS.

ALL OF THOSE WEBINARS ARE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.

YOU GO TO TO THE WEBSITE AND THY ARE ALL AVAILABLE.

THE SLIDES FROM THOSE ARE AVAILABLE.

IT'S SOME GREAT INFORMATION THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE THINK ABOUT HOW THEY START TO THINK P WITH REOPENING.

>> AND I LIKE THE TITLE ROAD MAP TO A HEALTHY REOPENING BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR KIND OF OBVIOUSLY TODAY HE SAID THAT -- AND WE ALL NEW THIS, IT WOULDN'T BE THE FLIP OF A SWITCH.

SO HE'S GOT A FIVE-STAGE PLAN.

BUT IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE SOME THINGS CAN'T OPEN AS -- SOME THINGS CAN OPEN AS EARLY AS MORE THAN.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AND HIS BACK ON TRACK PROGRAM, WE ARE IN STAGE ONE RIGHT NOW.

MONDAY, ALLEN COUNTY WILL GO TO STAGE TWO, LIKE MOST OF THE COUNTIES IN THE STATE, WHICH WILL ALLOW RETAIL TO OPEN UP WITH 50% CAPACITY.

>> WE WERE BOTH TALKING.

I WAS SURPRISED RETAIL WAS GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO BE OPENING THAT SOON.

>> THAT MAY BE SURPRISING.

MANUFACTURERS WHO WEREN'T IN THE ESSENTIAL CATEGORY ARE ALLOWED TO GO BACK MONDAY AND A WEEK LATER RESTAURANTS CAN COME BACK AT 50% AND SOME OTHER INDUSTRIES WILL START TO COME P BACK, AND SLOWLY RAMPING UP TO INDEPENDENCE DAY WHEN WE HIT STAGE 5, WHICH, AS DR.

McMAHON SAID, WE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING WITH THIS SO WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING.

BUT LOOKING TO GET BACK TO STAGE 5 IS EXCITING.

>> GOING BACK TO THE WEBINARS, AND THIS IS GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT FOR EVERY BUSINESS, LIKE YOU AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE BOTH CATHOLIC, WHAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH GOING TO DO?

I'VE HEARD THE GOVERNOR SAY, ONLY ALLOW GROUPS IT OF 25 TO MEET, AND IT INCREASES AS YOU GO ALONG, BUT THERE COULD BE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN MASS.

>> THAT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING.

AND OUR LAST WEBINAR TODAY AT 1:00 WE HAD AROUND 300 PEOPLE ON THE CALL FOR RELIGION INSTITUTIONS, AND THAT'S A BIG QUESTION, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE DO MASS GATHERINGS?

CAN WE DO THEM OUTDOORS?

HOW DO WE CLEAN BETWEEN THE GATHERINGS, HOW DO WE RECEIVE COMMUNION, ARE ALL THINGS WE NEED TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT 60 DAYS AGO WEREN'T NECESSARY THINK IN OUR HEAD.

>> RIGHT.

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY?

BECAUSE IT'S BEEN LONG, IT'S BEEN SEVEN WEEKS, SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS FOR SOME OF THEM THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL.

SO ARE THEY STILL OPTIMISTIC?

POSITIVE?

>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY OPTIMISTIC.

THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A REBOUND IN THE ECONOMY.

THE PROGRAM THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN HELPFUL FOR THOSE WHO WERE ABLE TO QUALIFY AND GET INTO THOSE PROGRAMS.

I THINK THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE NOW, AND QUESTION HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS IS REALLY THE ACCESS TO PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT WITH MASKS OR SANITIZER.

THE GOVERNOR COMING OUT TODAY AND TALKING ABOUT THE MARKETPLACE THAT HE'S SETTING UP, SPECIFICALLY FOR SMALL BUSINESS, I THINK WILL BE VERY VALUABLE BECAUSE THAT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO THESE BUSINESSES TO WHAT THEY NEED TO GET OPENED UP.

>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE MOST OF THEM HAVE WEATHERED THE STORM FINANCIALLY?

BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY GOT A CHUNK OF THOSE LOANS, WHICH WAS DISAPPOINTING FOR SOME.

>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE.

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE -- WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE HAD CASUALTIES, PHYSICAL CASUALTIES THROUGH THE CORONAVIRUS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE BUSINESS CASUALTIES, AND WE KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED.

WE ARE HOPEFUL WE CAN HELP GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK AND BACK THROUGH THIS, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGES, AND I DON'T THINK WE WILL KNOW THE FULL EXTENT OF THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

>> WELL, I HOPE PEOPLE WILL TAKE THE GOVERNOR'S STATEMENT SERIOUSLY WHEN HE SAID THAT HE COULD CHANGE THINGS AT ANYTIME BECAUSE IF IT ENDS UP CAUSING A HUGE SPIKE IN CASES OR THINGS JUST AREN'T GOING WELL, YOU KNOW, I HOPE PEOPLE WILL TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

>> I HOPE THEY DO, AND IT'S GREAT TO LAY OUT THE FIVE STAGES.

MAYBE IT GETS DELAYED A LITTLE BIT, OR MAYBE WE BUMP BACK FROM STAGE THREE TO STAGE TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW AND WORK TO GET BACK TO BUSINESS.

>> AND THERE IT IS, BACK ON TRACK INDIANA.

THE GOAL IS TO HAVE, I GUESS, OUR NEW NORMAL IN PLACE BY JULY 4th.

BUT DO YOU THINK FOR ALL BUSINESSES THAT KNEW NORMAL IS NOT GOING TO LOOK A LOT LIKE WHAT WE WERE USED TO SOME.

>> I THINK IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT A NEW NORMAL, IT'S ABOUT GETTING BACK TO A NORMALIZED STATE.

AND IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

SOME ARE GOING TO RESPOND QUICKER THAN OTHERS.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT FOR SOME SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY, SOME INDUSTRIES.

SOME WILL COME BACK SOONER AND SOME IT WILL TAKE QUITE SOME TIME.

>> WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE?

ARE LOCAL BUSINESSES CONCERNED ABOUT THAT?

I KNOW MOST MANUFACTURING, IT SOUNDS LIKE, CAN GO BACK BY MONDAY.

>> I THINK EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED STILL.

THERE ARE SOME MANUFACTURES THAT ARE GOING ON THROUGH THIS THAT ARE HAVING STILL GREAT MONTHS, GREAT QUARTER, STILL IN FULL PRODUCTION BUT MAYBE DOING IT A DIFFERENT WAY, MAYBE THEIR EMPLOYERS ARE WEARING MASKS, MAYBE THEY HAVE CHANGED UP SOME LINE PRODUCTION PROCEDURES.

AND THEN SOME ARE LOOKING TO GET BACK GOING AGAIN.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF VARIABLES IN HOW THE RECOVERY HAPPENS.

>> AND I KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO, I GUESS, DISPEL EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON MONDAY'S WEBINAR, BUT THAT IS ABOUT EDUCATION.

AND I HEARD THE GOVERNOR TODAY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HE ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FALL AT A LATER DATE.

HE DIDN'T GET INTO SPECIFICS.

WHAT KIND OF ARE THINGS WILL YOU ADDRESS ON THE WEBINAR?

>> WE WILL FOCUS ON WHAT HE HAD INDICATORS NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT IT.

OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE SOME TIME.

I'M GLAD THE GOVERNOR SAID WE AREN'T GOING TO DECIDE IT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO THE SUMMER AND WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

I TALKED TO PEOPLE, YOU CAN HAVE A PLAN, BUT YOU BETTER HAVE A BACKUP PLAN AND THAT GOES FOR EDUCATION, IT GOES FOR NORMAL BUSINESS.

WE CAN HAVE OUR IDEAL SITUATION, BUT YOU BETTER HAVE A BACKUP JUST IN CASE.

SO I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT HE'S PROVIDING SOME TIME.

WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT AS WE GO.

WE DON'T NEED TO RUSH INTO THIS, ESPECIALLY ON THE EDUCATION SIDE.

>> SURE, BECAUSE THAT IMPACTS A LOT OF BUSINESSES.

IF KIDS ARE IN OR OUT OF SCHOOL, THAT DOES IMPACT THAT.

>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS IS OBVIOUSLY THE CHILDCARE SITUATION.

KIDS AREN'T IN SCHOOL, SO IF WE GO BACK TO WORK RIGHT AWAY AND EVERYBODY IS BACK, HOW DO WE HANDLE THE CHILDCARE SITUATION?

WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WILL IMPACT ALL INDUSTRIES.

>> WE WILL KEEP YOU ARE A FINGERS CROSSED.

LIKE THE GOVERNOR SAID, IT'S UP TO ALL OF US, EACH ONE OF US.

WE HAVE TO ALL DO OUR PART.

THERE'S THAT GRAPHIC AGAIN THAT JOHN ALLUDED TO BEFORE.

IT'S WEBINAR.GFWINC.COM.

WHAT TIME CAN THEY ACCESS THE WEBINAR ON MONDAY?

>> THE WEBINAR ON MONDAY IS AT 1:00.

THERE IS STILL TIME TO REGISTER FOR THAT ONE.

ALL OF THE OTHERS ARE POSTED THAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO DAYS.

YOU CAN GO ON AND VIEW THOSE AT YOUR OWN LEISURE.

>> JOHN, SO GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> HOPEFULLY UNDER MORE POSITIVE CIRCUMSTANCES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JOHN FROM GREATER FORT WAYNE INC.

I WILL SEND IT BACK TO MARK.

>> THE BIG NEWS TODAY FROM THE GOVERNOR IS GENERATING PHONE CALLS AND WE WE ARE HERE TO ANSR THOSE TO YOU.

THE NUMBER IS 866-969-2721.

WE ARE TAKING YOUR CALLS AND CONCERNS TONIGHT UNTIL THE PROGRAM WRAPS UP.

WITH ME TONIGHT AND HELPING ME FIELD SOME OF THE CALLS FROM THE PHONE BANK, DR.

LISA HATCHER.

SHE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE INDIANA STATE MEDICAL ASSOCIATION AND A PHYSICIAN IN COLUMBIA CITY, A FAMILY PRACTICE PHYSICIAN.

>> CORRECT.

>> WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE.

WE'VE HAD SOME VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS IN BETWEEN THE SEGMENTS.

WE HAD A CALL THAT CAME IN, THE CALLER WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHY WE AREN'T TESTING THE SO-CALLED ASYMPTOMATIC.

FIRST OF ALL, ASYMPTOMATIC MEANS YOU DON'T SHOW SYMPTOMS?

>> YOU DON'T HAVE SYMPTOMS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE FEVER OR THE COUGH, THE BODY ACHES, CHILLS, ANY OF THE SYMPTOMS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH COVID.

BASICALLY YOU FEEL LIKE A NORMAL PERSON.

>> SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE JUST NORMAL-FEELING PERSON FEELING GOOD AND THEN JUST GOING IN FOR THE TEST AND THEY AREN'T DOING THAT KIND OF TESTING?

>> CORRECT.

WE AREN'T DOING ASYMPTOMATIC TESTING AT THIS TIME, FOR THE MOST PART, BECAUSE THE TEMPTS ARE NOT SENSITIVE ENOUGH FORM ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE.

AND IF YOU GET A RESULT THAT SAYS YOUR NEGATIVE WHEN YOU ARE ASYMPTOMATIC, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT TOMORROW YOU MIGHT NOT BE POSITIVE OR TWO DAYS FROM NOW YOU MIGHT NOT BE POSITIVE.

>> TRUE.

>> ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN COMING THROUGH WITH THE PATIENTS IN MY OFFICE IS A REQUEST FOR TESTS FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS ASYMPTOMATIC BECAUSE THEY HAVE HAD CONTACT WITH A POSITIVE PERSON OR A SYMPTOMATIC PERSON AND THEIR EMPLOYER IS ASKING THEM TO GET A TEST SO THAT THEY CAN RETURN TO WORK.

THAT'S, FIRST OF ALL, NOT VERY EASY TO FIND, AND SECONDLY, REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH VALUE.

SO IF A PATIENT HAS COVID AND THEY HAVE A CLOSE CONTACT THAT LIVES WITH THEM, THAT PERSON SHOULD SELF-ISOLATE FOR THE DESIGNATED PERIOD OF TIME, AND WHEN THAT IS OVER, IF THEY HAVE NEVER DEVELOPED SYMPTOMS, THEY SHOULD BE SAFE TO GO BACK TO WORK.

>> OKAY.

THAT IRONED OUT SOME WINK KNELLS THAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANOTHER CALLER IS ASKING IF THE ELECTRIC HAND DRYERS, WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THOSE, ESPECIALLY IN RESTROOMS, ARE THEY SAFE TO USE?

I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE THEY BELOW AND THEY DISPERSE WHATEVER THEY BLOW UPON.

HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE USING THEM AFTER YOU HAVE THOROUGHLY WASHED YOUR HANDS WITH GOOD SOAP, BECAUSE SOAP BREAKS DOWN THE FAT CAPSULE ON THE VIRAL CAPSID AND DESTROYS IT, MAKES IT INACTIVE.

SO IF YOU THOROUGHLY WASHED YOUR HANDS WITH SOAP AND WATER AND WASHED AWAY WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR HANDS, THEN USING THAT DRYER TO DRY YOUR HANDS SHOULD ONLY BLOW AWAY WHAT ELSE REMAINS ON YOUR HANDS, SNOT THE HANDS, .

>> AND WHAT IS IT, SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY A COUPLE TIMES.

>> HAPPY BIRTHDAY TWICE THROUGH OR THE LORD'S PRAYER, 20 SECONDS IS THE KEY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL GO BACK TO BRUCE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AS YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING FLEW THE PROGRAM, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION AROUND HERE AND AROUND TOWN, TOO, OF A VARIETY OF WEBINARS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED THROUGH A CONSORTIUM OF FOLKS FROM GREATER FORT WAYNE, INCORPORATED, A PARKVIEW HEALTH PHYSICIANS AND OFFICIALS WITH THE ALLEN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

ORGANIZERS ARE CALLING IT THAT ROAD MAP TO A HEALTHY REOPENING, AND TWO OF ITS PRESENTERS ARE JOINING US NOW.

DINA IS CHIEF COMMUNITY AND HR OFFICER OF PARKVIEW HEALTH AND NEXT TO HER IS DR.

JEFFREY BORED.

HE'S CHIEF SAFETY AND QUALITY OFFICER AT PARKVIEW HEALTH.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT SEEMS THAT IF WE ARE ON A ROAD TO REOPENING, IT'S AS IF THE WEBINARS ARE OFFERING US SOME NEW DRIVING LESSONS, RIGHT?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE.

WHAT PARKVIEW HEALTH, IN COLLABORATION WITH FOR THER GREAT WAYNE AND THE NORTHEASTERN COLLABORATIVE AND ALLEN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE WANT TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE MAKE THE TRANSITION.

IT'S VERY CHALLENGING.

WE ARE IN A NEW NORMAL OF COVE EXISTING WITH COVID-19.

AT PARKVIEW HEALTH WE HAVE HAD TO, I WOULD CALL, SURVIVE AND ADAPT TO THE REALITY OF COVID-19 BECAUSE WE WERE ON THE FRONT LINE OF THIS.

WE IDENTIFIED THE FIRST CASE OF COVID-19 IN NORTHEAST INDIANA, AND WE HAVE HAD TO LEARN HOW TO ADAPT AND BE ABLE TO SAFELY CARE FOR PATIENTS THAT PRESENT WITH ILLNESS THAT IS EITHER POSSIBLE OR CONFIRMED COVID-19.

SO WE'VE HAD SOME VERY -- A VERY STEEP LEARNING CURVE IN OUR ORGANIZATION.

WE'VE LEARNED A LOT OF VALUABLE LESSONS OVER THE LAST EIGHT WEEKS OR SO.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS JUST BEEN SO INCREDIBLY GENEROUS TO US.

THE SUPPORT, THE PRAYERS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR ALL OF US AS HEALTHCARE WORKERS ON THE FRONT LINES AND FOR OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES IN THE HEALTHCARE COMMUNITY, WE APPRECIATE SO MUCH THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

AND WE REALLY SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BY PARTICIPATING IN THIS PARTNERSHIP AND REALLY SHARING THE INFORMATION WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, WHAT WE FOUND, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM OTHERS THAT WE HAVE FOUND TO BE HELPFUL PRACTICES, AND REALLY HELP OUR COMMUNITY SAFELY GET BACK TO WORK.

>> AND AS YOU ARE SPEAKING THOSE ASPIRATION NATURAL NOTIONS, AS YOU SAID THIS IS NOT A ONE SIZE FIT OWL OPENING S IT?

>> NOT AT ALL.

LIKE ONE LOCAL CEO PUT IT, IT'S LIKE FLYING A PLANE AND TRYING TO FIX IT AT THE SAME TIME.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK WE'VE LEARNED A LOT ALONG THE WAY.

WE KNOW EVERYBODY IS GOING THROUGH IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

ESPECIALLY IN OUR WORKFORCE.

WE HAVE FIVE GENERATIONS IN OUR WORKFORCE RIGHT NOW AT PARKVIEW HEALTH WITH 13,000 CO-WORKERS.

BECAUSE THAT HAVE WE NEED TO COME UP WITH WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM AND MEET ALL THE DIVERSE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE.

>> LET'S GO DOWN A FEW THOUSAND FEET FROM THE AIRPLANE AND WE WILL GUARANTEE A HAPPY LANDING.

BUT DOCTOR, LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS EMPLOYERS SHOULD CONSIDER WHILE THEY ARE REOPENING?

>> REALLY THE FUNDAMENTAL FRAMEWORK THAT'S MOST HELPFUL TO APPLY IS FROM OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH AND MEDICINE AND IT'S WHAT IS CALLED THE HIERARCHY OF CONTROLS.

THE HIERARCHY OF CONTROLS IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT ALLOWS YOU TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THOSE SAFETY INTERVENTIONS THAT YOU CAN DO TO MINIMIZE OR ELIMINATE THE RISK OF A PARTICULAR HAZARD IN A WORKPLACE?

NOW THAT HAZARD IN THIS PLACE IS COVID-19, THE VIRUS THAT CAUSES COVID-19 AND OUR PANDEMIC SITUATION.

AT THE VERY TOP WE HAVE ELIMINATION.

THAT MEANS PHYSICALLY REMOVING THE HAZARD.

HOW CAN QUESTION ELIMINATE OR PHYSICALLY REMOVE A HAZARD, IN THIS CASE, EXPOSURE TO A VIRUS.

AT PARKVIEW HEALTH, ONE THING WE DID EARLY ON IS AGGRESSIVELY PIVOTED, AND ANYBODY THAT WAS NOT ESSENTIAL FOR FRONT LINE CRITICAL CARE THAT COULD WORK FROM HOME IS WORKING FROM HOME.

AND DINA CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE HAVE A HAD ROT OF PEOPLE WHO WORK FROM HOMES AND THEY ARE HAVING MEETINGS VIRTUALLY.

THEY ARE USING ONLINE METHODS OF HAVING MEETINGS.

THERE'S NO RISK OF TRANSMISSION.

WE'VE ALSO DONE THIS WITH HEALTHCARE TRANSITION SO WE MASSIVELY INCREASED OUR VIRTUAL HEALTH OFFERINGS TO PATIENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

LAST WEEK WE DID OVER 6,000 VIRTUAL HEALTH VISITS.

THOSE WERE TELEPHONE OR VIDEO VISITS WITH HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, AND THAT COVERED A WHOLE WIDE RANGE OF ISSUES.

WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING A LOT OF VIRTUAL HEALTH, AND THAT ALLOWS US TO DELIVER CARE SAFELY AND ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE THE RISK TO A VULNERABLE PATIENT OR TO CO-WORKERS OF EXPOSURE TO A VIRUS.

THE NEXT STEP IS ENGINEERING CONTROLS.

THAT'S ISOLATING PEOPLE FROM THE HAZARD.

IF YOU CAN'T ELIMINATE IT, YOU CAN ISOLATE PEOPLE FROM IT.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU GO TO YOUR BANK TODAY, YOU DON'T WALK UP AND YOU ARE NOT FACE-TO-FACE WITH A TELLER.

YOU GO THROUGH THE DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOW AND THE DRIVE THROUGH HAS A PLEXIGLASS BARRIER AND THAT PROTECTS THE COWORKER AND THE BANK FROM ANY EXPOSURE.

WE USE SIMILAR TECHNIQUES.

WE HAVE ENGINEERING CONTROLS LIKE NEGATIVE PRESSURE ISOLATION ROOMS, WE HAVE PHYSICAL BARRIERS WE USE AGAINST HAZARDS IN SPECIFIC AREAS.

THEY ARE ALSO QUITE EFFECTIVE.

NEXT DOWN IS WHAT IS CALLED ADMINISTRATION CONTROLS.

THIS IS IN SHORT CHANGING THE WAY PEOPLE WORK.

THIS IS WORKFLOWS, BEHAVIORS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO YOU MIGHT NOTICE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO IN TO AN ESTABLISHMENT YOU MAY SEE MARKERS ON THE FLOOR THAT REMIND PEOPLE TO BE SIX FEET APART.

IS THAT WE HAVE HAND SANITIZER DISPENSERS EVERYWHERE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO HOW PEOPLE DO METICULOUS HAND HYGIENE, TRAINING CO-WORKERS OR VISITORS ON THINGS LIKE COUGH ETIQUETTE AND RESPIRATORY ETIQUETTE, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE OTHER WAYS TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING IN MEETINGS.

USING A LARGER ROOM, MOVING THE CHAIRS APART.

WE DO THIS IN OUR INCIDENT COMMAND CENTER.

WE ARE IN A LARGE ROOM AND WE ARE VERY SPREAD OUT SO THAT WE ARE SAFE AND THAT WE MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL RISK OF EXPOSURE.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE DO A LOT OF CLEANING OF WORKSPACES.

SO WHEN I COME INTO THE INCIDENT COMMAND CENTER IN THE MORNING, I CLEAN OFFER MY WORKSPACE, THE CLEANING SUPPLIES ARE AT HAND, I CLEAN OFFER MY WORKSPACE AND HIGH-TOUCH AREA.

WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN TELEPHONE SO WE AREN'T GRABBING EACH OTHER'S TELEPHONE HAND SETS TO AVOID HIGH-TOUCH ITEMS.

THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF ADMINISTRATIVE CONTROLS YOU CAN USE TO HELP REDUCE RISK.

FINALLY THE LAST LINE OF DEFENSE IS PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT OR PPE.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS DUE TO THE INTERNATIONAL SHORTAGES OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY BEEN A CHALLENGE IN HEALTHCARE DELIVERY.

IN OUR REGION AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY DO DIRECT PATIENT CARE WITHOUT IT, SO IT'S REALLY ESSENTIAL.

ABOUT YOU THE KEY IS, SELECTING THE RIGHT TYPE OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE, THE CO-WORKERS HAVE PROPER TRAINING ON THE USE OF PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT TO TO ENSUE THAT IT'S PROTECTIVE TO KEEP THEM SAFE.

>> DINA A QUESTION FOR YOU.

CONTINUING THAT THEME WITH CONSIDERATIONS FOR EMPLOYERS AS THEY CREATE PLANS FOR THEIR TEAMS TO RETURN TO WORK, THE GOVERNOR IS DOING THINGS IN PHASES, AND YOU HAVE A PHASED PLAN APPROACH IDEA OF YOUR OWN?

>> WE DO.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS THE 4500 INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW OUT OF OUR 13,000 ARE WORKING FROM HOME.

WE DID THAT VERY QUICKLY.

BECAUSE OF THAT, WE KNEW THAT BRINGING EVERYONE BACK ALL AT ONCE WAS NOT THE RIGHT PLAN.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE GOVERNOR SAID TODAY, WE KNEW WE HAD TO SET UP A PLAN TO BRING PEOPLE BACK IN PHASES.

SO WE IDENTIFIED A GRAPHIC THAT HELPED US AS AN ORGANIZATION IDENTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUALS -- YES, EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME BACK TO WORK, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT IS SAFE FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND MAKING SURE WE ARE DOING ALL THE APPROPRIATE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

SO FOR US IN THE ORGANIZATION, WE SAID 25% OF THE TIME WOULD REALLY ALLOW US TO BRING INDIVIDUALS BACK AND SAFELY DO THAT.

ONE OF THE OTHER LESSONS I THINK THAT WE LEARNED ALONG THE WAY WAS WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO, YES, THEY WANT TO COME BACK TO WORK, BUT NOW IS NOT THE TIME.

WE HAD ALREADY ANNOUNCED THAT NO MOTOR, AGAIN, THE BACK ON TRACK PLAN THAT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY, WE WANT EVERYONE STAYING AT HOME WHO IS WORKING FROM HOME, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR THE NEAR FUTURE.

WE DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYONE IN JEOPARDY COMING BACK TO WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING GREAT REMOTELY.

WE HAD TO SET THEM UP VERY QUICKLY AND GIVING THEM ALL THE TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT THEY NEEDED TO DO THEIR ROLES.

>> AND WE HAVE THE ENVIRONMENT, AND THEN WE HAVE, AS YOU SAY, THE PEOPLE IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE CONSIDERATIONS.

SOME WHO ARE ANNOUNCING, HEY, I KIND OF LIKE THIS.

PERHAPS MAYBE THEY ARE MORE EFFECTIVE IN A REMOTE LOCATION.

BUT AGAIN, A PHASED LOOK ON THE PEOPLE PART.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE WORKING FROM HOME, AND I THINK THAT NOW WE ARE TURNING INTO A PHASE OF IF WE CAN SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS LONG-TERM WORKING FROM HOME, OFFICES IN HOMES ARE LIVING ROOM FLOORS, ARE KITCHEN TABLES, ARE ALL OVER THE HOUSE.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO HELPING FROM ANKER GENOMIC PERSPECTIVE TO MAKE SURE IF THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK FROM HOME LONG-TERM, WE ARE SETTING THEM UP FOR SUCCESS.

>> I WANT TO TOUCH ON SOMETHING DR.

McMAHON MENTIONED.

YOU COMMENT ON REGARDING TESTING, AND THE ROLE THAT TESTING CAN PLAY WITH EMPLOYERS WHO ARE MONITORING THEIR WORKFORCE.

AND WE HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING ON THAT, AS WELL.

TALK ME THROUGH TESTING FOR ABOUT A MINUTE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THERE'S TWO MAIN TYPES OF TESTING THAT WE DO CURRENTLY.

THE FIRST ONE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS ANTIBODY TESTING.

THIS IS DONE FROM A BLOOD SAMPLE.

IT IS VERY USEFUL FOR WHAT WE CALL POPULATION SURVEILLANCE OF PAST INFECTION.

SO THIS IS CURRENTLY BEING CARRIED OUT BY THE INDIANA STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN COLLABORATION WITH THE IU SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THEY ARE SYSTEMATICALLY SAMPLING MEMBERS OF THE POPULATION IN EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE.

THIS IS GOING TO GIVE US VERY USEFUL AGGREGATE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXTENT OF SPREAD OF COVID-19 IN VARIOUS COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE, AND THAT CAN BE USED TO ASSESS THE EFFECTIVENESS OF PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES AND CAN ALSO HELP GUIDE POLICY DECISIONS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE GOVERNOR MENTIONED TODAY THE PHASES OF REOPENING.

THIS INFORMATION CAN HELP INFORM SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS AND HELP US MAKE -- HAVE GUIDANCE ON BEING ABLE TO PRUDENTLY REOPEN THE ECONOMY IN AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT NEED TO BE MORE CAUTIOUS, SO IT DOES HAVE A ROLE.

BUT IT ALSO HAS VERY IMPORTANT LIMITATIONS.

ANTIBODY TESTING.

>> >>: RIGHT NOW MEDICAL SCIENCE DOES NOT KNOW IF ANTIBODIES ARE PRESENT TO THE VIRUS THAT CAUSES COVID-19, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE PROTECTIVE.

MEANING THAT IT'S AN IMMUNE RESPONSE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT MEANS YOU HAVE LASTING IMMUNITY, AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD BE IMMUNE TO REINFECTION, OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU MIGHT STILL BE ABLE TO SPREAD VIRUS TO OTHERS.

SO THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, IN AN EFFORT TO QUICKLY BRING ANTIBODY TESTING TO MARKET, WAIVED MANY OF THE STANDARD EVALUATION STEPS OF THE DIAGNOSTIC TESTING.

SO MOST OF THE TESTS THAT ARE ON THE MARKET HAVE NOT HAD ANY FORMAL SCRUTINY OR EXTENSIVE EVALUATION BY THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION.

UNFORTUNATELY THAT MEANS THAT MANY TESTS ON THE MARKET CAN BE INACCURATE OR UNRELIABLE.

IN SHORT, IT REALLY IS NOT APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME TO USE ANTIBODY TESTING FOR INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES TO MAKE ANY SORT OF DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS SUCH AS RETURNING TO WORK.

DR.

HATCHER MENTIONED EARLIER PCR TESTING.

THIS IS HOW WE DIAGNOSE COVID-19 USING A NASAL SWAB.

AS SHE MENTIONED, THE TEST IS HELPFUL IN PEOPLE WHO HAVE SYMPTOMS BECAUSE IT DETECTIVES VIRUS IN THE UPPER AIRWAY IN THE BACK OF THE THROAT.

BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SYMPTOMS, THE TEST IS VERY INSENSITIVE AND YOU CAN HAVE A FALSE NEGATIVE.

IF YOU ARE NEGATIVE TODAY, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE NOT SUSCEPTIBLE TOMORROW.

>> THINGS TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH, MY MOUSE CAN DO SOME OF THAT, AND DINA, I WILL HAVE YOU GIVE US THE LAST WORD ON THE PARKVIEW PUT TOGETHER, AN ONLINE RESOURCE WHERE I CAN TRAVELLY COMPUTER.

>> YES.

FIRST OF ALL, ECHOING THE COMMENT THE DOCTOR MADE, WE'VE BEEN HUMBLED BY THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE AND SUPPORT.

BECAUSE OF THAT, AND ALL THAT WE'VE LEARNED OVER THE LAST 60 DAYS, WE AREN'T JUST A TRUSTED HEALTHCARE PROVIDER WE HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE RUNNING TEN CALF FACE IN OUR FACILITIES, WE HAVE A SUPPLY CHAIN DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

SO BECAUSE THAT HAVE WE CAN UNIQUELY HELP OTHER BUSINESSES IN OUR REGION, WHICH IS WHY WE WANTED TO GIVE BACK.

WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT IS AVAILABLE, IT IS PARKVIEW.COM/BUSINESSCONNECT.

IT ALLOWS INDIVIDUALS TO CONNECT.

THERE'S A PHONE NUMBER FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO REACH OUT.

THESE ARE AGAIN FOR QUESTIONS THAT EMPLOYERS HAVE.

THE PHONE NUMBER IS 1260-CONNECT.

AND THEN ALSO FOR THOSE THAT REALLY WANT TO HAVE MORE AT THE ELBOW, NOT LITERALLY, SUPPORT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST BE A TRUSTED ADVISOR FOR EMPLOYERS.

THERE'S A CONNECT BUTTON OUT ON OUR WEBSITE TO REALLY GET MORE IN-DEPTH SUPPORT MORE SPECIFIC TO YOUR BUSINESS, AND OUR WAY TO GIVE BACK.

WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO HELP.

>> WE ARE HONORED FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SERVICE.

PLEASE PASS THAT ON TO THE 13,000-PLUS WHO ARE MAKING IT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT PARKVIEW HEALTH.

DINA JACKWAY IS THE CHIEF SAFETE CHIEF COMMUNITY AND HR OFFICER.

DR.

JEFFREY BORD IS THE CHIEF SAFETY OFFICER AND THEY ARE HERE TOGETHER.

THANK YOU RECEIVE MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

LET'S GO TO JENNIFER NOW.

>> HELLO, BRUCE.

ALWAYS A BRIGHT SPOT IN THE SHOW AND I'M SO GLAD HE GETS TO SIT AT MY TABLE, DR.

JAY FAWVER, A PSYCHIATRIST AT FORT WAYNE.

ITS GOOD TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT GIVE YOU AN UPLIFTING AND POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND I THINK WE CAN ALL USE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THESE DAYS.

>> THANK YOU, JENNIFER.

>> I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A GRAPHIC FOR THIS.

THERE'S A REALLY GOOD WEBSITE THAT YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULD CHECK OUT.

>> I SAW IT MONDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

IT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE STATE OF INDIANA AND IT'S BE WELL BEWELLINDIANA.ORG.

IT HAS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE INFORMATION, GOVERNMENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR YOU, BUT FROM A PSYCHIATRIST PER EXPECTATIVE WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT IT IS THAT IT GIVES YOU A LOT OF ASSESSMENT TOOLS AND QUESTIONNAIRES THAT WE USE IN OUR OWN PRACTICE EVERY DAY.

THESE ARE NONCOPYRIGHTED TYPE OF ASSESSMENT TOOLS AND THEY GIVE YOU A SCORE ON HOW DEPRESSED YOU MIGHT BE AND THEY GIVE YOU A PRETTY GOOD IDEA IF YOU HAVE DISTURBANCES LIKE POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS OR EATING DISORDERS.

AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO THOSE KINDS OF SCREENS, THE QUESTIONNAIRES, TAKE THE SCORES TO YOUR PRIMARY CARE CLINICIAN OR SPECIALIST AND LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU HAVE BEEN DOING.

IT WOULD MAKE FOR A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT VISIT.

HEALTH PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM OR NOT.

KEEP IN MIND WITH ANY PSYCHIATRIC CONDITION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SYMPTOMS, BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO HAVE THE FUNCTIONAL IMPAIRMENT.

THE FUNCTIONAL IMPAIRMENT MEANS YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY GOING TO WORK, GOING TO SCHOOL, BEING AROUND FAMILY, BEING AROUND OTHER PEOPLE.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNCTIONAL I RECALL PAIR MEANT GOING ALONG WITH THE SYMPTOMS THEMSELVES.

>> THERE MAY BE PATIENTS, BUT IF IT HIT SOMEBODY HARD AND THEY MAYBE NEVER NEEDED PROFESSIONAL PSYCHIATRIC OR COUNSELING, IS IT OKAY TO STILL REACH OUT?

THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GO PHYSICALLY IN TO SEE SOMEBODY -- >> WHICH IS GREAT IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT.

DR.

WARD MENTIONED WE ARE DOING MORE VIRTUAL MEDICINE.

IT'S BASICALLY WHERE YOU GO TO YOUR LAPTOP OR SMARTPHONE AND COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR CLINICIAN VIRTUALLY.

YOU CAN BE IN YOUR HOME, YOU CAN BE IN YOUR CAR.

AT OUR OFFICE WE HAVE DONE OVER 1500 VIRTUAL VISITS IN THE PAST SIX WEEKS.

IT'S VERY EFFICIENT, ABOUT YOU THE START OF THE VIRTUAL BUSINESS, WHAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO WILL BE QUESTIONNAIRES AND WE GIVE THEM QUESTIONNAIRES PRIOR TO THE VISIT.

AND MANY.

THE QUESTIONNAIRES ARE THE SAME ONES YOU SEE ON THE BEWELLINDIANA SITE.

>> FOR SOME PEOPLE SKEPTICAL ARE THE VIRTUAL VISITS, YOU WERE SAYING BODY LANGUAGE OR JUST SEEING THEM IN THEIR SURROUNDING CAN GIVE YOU A LOT OF CLUES AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON?

>> YEAH.

PEOPLE ASK WHY CAN'T YOU GUST DO TELEPHONE CALLS?

WELL, KA CAN, BUT AS A PSYCHIATRIST AND MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN IT TELLS US A LOT TO LOOK AT SOMEBODY'S MANNERISMS AND TO BE ABLE TO SEE THEM, AS WELL AS HEAR THEM, GIVES US AS MUCH DIAGNOSTIC ACUITY AS A CARDIOLOGIST WOULD HAVE LISTENING TO SOMEBODY'S HEART, SO IT REALLY HELPS US OUT.

>> WE ARE GOING THROUGH CHANGE AGAIN.

THINGS ARE STARTING TO REOPEN.

YOU SAID BEFORE THE SHOW YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THOSE WHO DO GO BACK TO WORK MAYBE NOT GET ALONG WITH THE CO-WORKERS.

MAYBE IT WAS BETTER WHEN THEY WEREN'T AROUND THOSE PEOPLE.

>> I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE FIRED UP GETTING BACK TO WORK.

BUT JUST THE CHANGE GOING BACK TO WORK.

BUT WE ARE HEARING INTERESTING CONCERNS.

SOME PEOPLE CALLED OUR OFFICE THE PAST WEEK, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO WORK BECAUSE I CAN'T STAND WORKING WITH MY COWORKER.

THAT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.

IT'S A LONG-STANDING PROBLEM BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE ALSO HAVE TO ADDRESS.

>> AND MAYBE THEY COULD CONSIDER, LIKE DINA MENTIONED, SOMETIMES FOR THE LONG-TERM IT MAY TURN OUT TO BE A GOOD THING, THIS PERMANENT CHANGE, AND CHANGING PERMANENTLY OF WORKING FROM HOME.

>> WE ARE CALLING IT THE NEW NORMAL, AND WITH THE NEW NORMAL THE IDEA IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE OUR WORKFLOW.

ONE OF THE EXCITING THINGS THAT I SEE HAPPENING, WE'VE LEARNED HOW TO USE VIRTUAL MEDICINE, AS WELL AS TO MEET VIRTUALLY.

SO HISTORICALLY WE'VE DRIVEN 15, 30 MINUTES, AN HOUR TO A MEETING, WE'VE MET WITH A GROUP AND PEOPLE AND DRIVE BACK.

SO WE HAD THE PERCEPTION WE ALL HAVE TO MEET FACE-TO-FACE.

AGAIN, IT GOES BRENNAN A TELEPHONE CALL OR A PHONE CONFERENCE WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE PHONE.

WITH A WEB CONFERENCE OR A VIRTUAL CONFERENCE, YOU ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SEE EACH OTHER.

>> YEAH.

>> AND YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE DRIVE TIME.

YOUR TIME IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, SO MAYBE THAT HOUR THAT YOU TOOK TO DRIVE THERE, YOU CAN USE IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY.

WE ARE FINDING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FINDING IT PRETTY EFFICIENT TO WORK FROM HOME AND THEY ARE GETTING A LOT OF WORK DONE.

SO HOW CAN WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT ASPECT?

>> AND YOU POINTED OUT IN PREVIOUS SHOWS THAT WE PROBABLY NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

WE WERE FORCED INTO IT, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE POSITIVE IN SOME CASES.

>> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULDN'T LET US EFFICIENTLY DO THE TELEMEDICINE VISITS UNTIL EARLY MARCH BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY FORCED PATIENTS TO GO TO A DOCTOR'S OFFICE TO DO THE TELEMEDICINE VISIT WITH SOMEBODY AT ANOTHER SITE WHICH DEFEATED THE PURPOSE.

PATIENTS WANT TO DO THE TELEMEDICINE VISITS FROM THEIR HOME OR CAR -- WHILE NOT DRIVING, OF COURSE -- BUT THEY WANT TO DO IT IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT AND DON'T WANT TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE TO DO IT.

OUR PATIENTS LOVE THE IDEA OF THE VIRTUAL VISITS.

WE ARE FINDING FOUR OUT OF FIVE WANT TO DO IT, IS THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO IT.

ONE OUT OF THE FIVE IN THE LONG RUN WILL STILL COME INTO THE OFFICE AND WE WILL ACCOMMODATE THEM.

>> IF THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

>> YEAH.

>> WE ONLY HAVE A LITTLE SOMETIME LEFT BUT THERE ARE STILL LOTS OF UNKNOWNS.

EVEN LIKE I WAS TALKING TO JOHN URBAN BEFORE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH SCHOOL IN THE FALL.

GOVERNOR TODAY SAID WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT YET.

WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE ON TO PEOPLE?

>> LEARN HOW TO ADAPT AND REALIZE YOU ARE NOT IN CONTROL.

AND WE HAVE TO ADAPT.

AGAIN, A CHANGE IS A STRESS, AND HOW WE ADAPT TO IS ABLOUSE US TO MAINTAIN OUR MENTAL HEALTH.

YOU HAVE TO REALIZE CHANGE IS GOING TO OCCUR AND YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT.

>> JUST BE PREPARED, I GUESS, MENTALLY.

JAY, YOU HAVE NOT STOPPED DOING YOUR MONDAY SHOW THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

SO IT'S STILL GOING TO BE ON THIS MONDAY AT 7:30.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A ROUNDTABLE NOW, IT'S GOING BACK TO THE TRADITIONAL "MATTERS OF THE MIND" PROGRAM?

>> YES.

>> BE SURE TO CATCH THAT AT 7:30.

AND THROWING IT BACK TO MARK AT THE PHONE BANK.

>> IT'S ALWAYS A COMPELLING DISCUSSION WHEN WE LISTEN TO DRO HAVE HIM ON OUR PBS STAFF.

I AM STANDING ABOUT SIX FEET AWAY FROM HIS ONE-MAN SET THAT HE DOES HIS SHOW FROM ON MONDAY NIGHTS.

WE ARE TALKING TONIGHT WITH DR.

LISA HATCHER WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE INDIANA STATE MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.

CONGRATULATIONS FOR THAT TITLE.

AND YOU ARE A FAMILY PRACTICE PHYSICIAN IN COLUMBIA CITY.

A CALL CAME IN, AND IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

THIS INDIVIDUAL IS GOING OUT AND DOING HER GROCERY SHOPPING AND THINGS SHE THAT IS TO DO OUT OF NECESSITY.

SHE'S NOTICING CLUSTERS OF FAMILIES, A, NOT WEARING MASKS AND SEEM TO BE GOING AROUND TOUCHING EVERYTHING AND SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE FAMILY UNIT THEMSELVES.

SHOULD THEY BE PRACTICING SOME SORT OF SOCIAL DISTANCING?

WHAT HAVE YOU OBSERVED?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I'VE OBSERVED THAT SAME THING MYSELF.

I WAS OUT LOOKING FOR A THERMOMETER FOR A PATIENT THIS PAST WEEKEND, AND I OBSERVED THAT THERE WERE LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE IN THE STORE WHERE I WAS, AND MANY OF THEM HAD NO MACES BEING AND MANY WERE FAMILY GROUPS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO IMPRESS UPON PEOPLE IS THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING AND STAYING HOME IS GOING TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF THIS VIRUS.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE STORE FOR ESSENTIAL THINGS, IT SHOULD JUST BE YOU THAT GOES, NOT YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY.

WHEN YOU GO OUT TO BUY THINGS, IT SHOULD BE FOR ESSENTIAL THINGS, NOT TO SHOP FOR BICYCLES OR FUN THINGS.

AND I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE NEED ENTERTAINMENT AND THEY NEED THINGS TO DO WHEN YOU ARE AT HOME, BUT ONE PERSON SHOULD GO, NOT A WHOLE FAMILY.

AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE WEARING MASKS AND YOU SHOULD BE PRACTICING THAT SIX-FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN YOU AND ANY OTHER SHOPPER.

>> THEN, OF COURSE, IF YOU ARE TOUCHING THE SHOPPING CARTS, AND I KNOW MOST GROCERY STORES NOW OR SUPERMARKETS HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WIPING DOWN THE CARTS, I JUST SAW THAT THE OTHER DAY, BUT STILL THAT'S NOT THE 100%.

>> NOT PERFECT.

>> YOU SHOULD STILL PRACTICE HYGIENE.

>> GOOD HAND HYGIENE, ABSOLUTELY.

EVERYONE SHOULD BE IN THE PRACTICE OF WASHING THEIR HANDS, KEEPING THEIR HANDS OFF OF THEIR FACE, AND THAT INCLUDES YOUR MASK.

IF YOU ARE HANDLING YOUR MASK, THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WASH YOUR HANDS AFTERWARDS.

EVERYTHING THAT COLLECTS ON YOUR MASK THEN GETS TRANSFERRED TO YOUR HANDS, SO CARRYING HAND WIPES OR BABY WIPES OR SOME KIND OF HAND SANITIZER IN YOUR CAR SO THAT AS SOON AS YOU TAKE THAT MASK OFF WHEN YOU ARE IN THE CAR YOU ARE RESANITIZING YOUR HANDS.

AND THEN WHENEVER YOU GET TO A SOURCE WHERE YOU CAN, SOAP AND WATER IS THE BEST.

>> RIGHT.

THE DISINFECTION -- DISINFECTION ACCOUNTANTS, SHOULD THEY BE USED?

SHOULD THEY BE USED?

>> YES.

>> I WON'T MENTION BRAND NAMES.

>> SURE.

YOU WE KNOW THAT ALCOHOL, BLEACH, BREAK DOWN THE VIRUS AND THEY ARE VERY EFFECTIVE.

ALL OF YOUR NORMAL HOME SANITIZERS THAT YOU WOULD USE TO CLEAN YOUR KITCHEN, YOUR BATHROOM, THOSE ARE THINGS WE SHOULD BE USE TO GO CLEAN ALL THE SURFACES WHERE OUR HANDS TOUCH, THE DOORKNOBS, THE HANDLES ON THE REFRIGERATORS, THE MICROWAVE DOORS.

>> WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT AS WE ARE SLOWLY SLIDING INTO THE NEW NORM?

>> CORRECT.

THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO DO ONGOING TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

>> VERY WELL DONE.

THANK YOU.

LET'S GO BACK NOW TO -- WELL, IT'S BRUCE AND DR.

DEB McMAHON.

>> IT IS, AND MOSTLY DR.

DEB McMAHON BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A WEEK OF MULTIPLE BIG HEADLINES.

NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH INCLUDED THE STATE OPENING UP A LARGE-SCALE COVID-19 TESTING SCHEME.

>> YES.

>> AND THEN OUTSOURCING CONTACT TRACING WITH A 500-PERSON CALL CENTER OUT OF INDIANAPOLIS, AND, OF COURSE, THE GOVERNOR'S REMARKED TO LAYING FORWARD HOW LIFE MIGHT BE BETWEEN NOW AND EARLY JULY.

WHAT STRUCK YOU OVER THESE PAST FIVE DAYS OUT OF THAT SET OF STORIES OR MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU HAVE BEEN MONITORING?

>> QUITE HONESTLY THE MOST IMPRESSIVE THING TO ME THIS WEEK IS WHAT GREATER FORT WAYNE AND PARKVIEW DID TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF HELPING OUR COMMUNITY REALLY TAKE THE TIME, AS THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN SAYING, HAVE IT MAKE SENSE, DO IT TO PREPARE.

SO I THINK REALLY PREPARING, GETTING CONCRETE ADVICE ON HOW TO MANAGE THE NEW NORMAL IS SO CRITICAL.

YOU KNOW, THE TESTING, EXPANDING THE TESTING IS AWESOME.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE HELPFUL.

ESPECIALLY AS THEY MOVE INTO DOING THE POPULATION STUDIES AS DR.

BORD WAS SAYING.

I THINK IT WILL HELP US GET THE SENSE OF IS IT 5% OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS THE VIRUS ALREADY OR 15 OR 20%?

REMEMBER THE GOAL WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY IMMUNITY, SO TO SPEAK, IS ABOUT 75%.

AT THAT I WANTAT THAT POINT WE E CALL THE HERD IMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE WITH EVERY OTHER INFECTION.

BUT I HAVE TO SAY TODAY THE ROAD MAP THE GOVERNOR HAS LAID OUT, I THINK THEY DID A VERY THOROUGH JOB.

IT'S A VERY WELL-LAID-OUT PLAN.

IT'S OVERWHELMING TO HEAR IT, BUT TO LOOK AT IT VISUALLY, LOOK AT ALL OF THE RESOURCES THEY LAY OUT IS REALLY HELPFUL.

BUT IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE AND I THINK A WELL-THOUGHT-OUT PLAN.

WE WILL BE COLLECTING DATA ALL ALONG SO WE CAN SEE IF IT'S TOO AGGRESSIVE, WE CAN ALWAYS PULL BACK AND REINSTITUTE MEASURES, YOU BY THINK IT'S A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN.

>> SOME OF THE DATA COLLECTION CAME FROM THE CO-EXISTING WITH COVID MEETINGS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN HAVING.

WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN LEARNING?

>> REALLY THAT IT REALLY IS NECESSARY TO REALLY HELP -- YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HEAR ON THE MEDIA ON THE NEWS WOULD MAKE YOU THINK THAT, BOY, ANTIBODY TESTING IS WHAT I REALLY NEED TO REOPEN AND REALLY WHEN YOU THINK THROUGH THAT, MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE BIGGEST TOOL THAT YOU NEED.

BUT REALLY HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, INTERPRETING WHAT THEY ARE HEARING ON THE MEDIA.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY BEEN HELPFUL.

BECAUSE YOU HEAR IN THE MEETINGS WHAT THEY ARE HEARING ON THE MEDIA AND IT NEEDS FURTHER EXPLANATION.

SO I THINK JUST REALLY SEEING HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK, GIVING PEOPLE THE REAL INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE THE CRITICAL DECISIONS ABOUT CHANGING AND RECONFIGURING THE WAY THEY DO THINGS.

IT'S REALLY CRITICAL.

>> AND IT SEEMED TO BE A VICTORY LAP WEEK, WHERE YOU SAID WE HAVE ACHIEVED OUR GOAL OF KEEPING OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM STANDING.

WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO CHEER FOR.

TAKE US BEHIND THAT STATEMENT.

>> WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, THAT'S ONE THING THAT I THINK IN ALLEN COUNTY, SOMETHING YOU CAN REALLY LOOK AND CHEER UPON OR BE HAPPY ABOUT, IF YOU WILL, IS THE COLLABORATION FROM MARCH 4th UNTIL NOW.

THE COLLABORATION.

AND THAT'S BETWEEN ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SECTORS, THE SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, HEALTHCARE, MEN TAG HEALTH, SOCIAL SERVICES, ALL OF THE PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER AND AGREEING THAT OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL IS MAKE SURE THAT HEALTHCARE REMAINS STAND SOGGY THAT NOT ONLY COVID PATIENTS CAN BE TREATED BUT ANYBODY NEEDING URGENT HEALTH SERVICES COULD BE TREATED.

AND THE OTHER THINGS, KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON, FOOD ON THE TABLE, ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD.

SEEING YOUR COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, AND TO KNOW 8 WEEKS LATER OUR HEALTH CARE IS STILL STANDING, THEY ARE READY FOR US TO MOVE INTO A RECOVERY PHASE, I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR COMMUNITY AND SAY JOB WELL DONE BECAUSE IF NOT FOR THE COLLABORATION, I THINK OUR NUMBERS WOULD BE A LOT HIGHER AND THEN MAKE THAT ROAD TO RECOVERY A LOT MORE DIFFICULT.

>> ONE OTHER POINT ON CONTACT TRACING THAT I WANT TO BE SURE IS SHARED WITH ALL TONIGHT IS YOUR COMMENT THAT WHILE THIS IS HAPPENING NOW WITH COVID-19, THIS IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT TO THE ALLEN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

>> NO, NO.

CONTACT TRACING IS THE ROCK BED OF PUBLIC HEALTH, TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK AND THE PEOPLE WHO THEY HAVE POTENTIALLY EXPOSED AND THEN DOING AN INTERVENTION OF SOME SORT, WHETHER IT BE QUARANTINE, PROVIDING A PREVENTATIVE ANTIBIOTIC.

ALL THOSE THINGS.

THAT'S SOMETHING PUBLIC HEALTH HAS BEEN DOING FOR YEARS AND WE DO ALL THE TIME.

THERE ARE 82 REPORTABLE DISEASES IN THE STATE OF INDIANA THAT WE FOLLOW UP ON EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOT A QUIET OUTBREAK HAPPENING OF SALMONELLA SOMEWHERE OR SOMEONE WHO HAVE EXPOSED TO MENINGITIS, GETS THEIR MEDICATION.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY.

>> OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN ON COVID-19, BUT THEN, OH, BY THE WAY.

>> YEAH, 82 OTHERS.

>> THAT THERE'S THAT MUCH MORE GOING ON.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE CENTRALIZED NOTION OF THE SYSTEM IN INDIANAPOLIS?

IS IT AN EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT?

>> I'M SO PROUD OF OUR TEAM.

THEY HAVE REALLY KEPT UP AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING NIGHT AND DAY TO MAKE SURE OUR CONTACT TRACING FROM DAY ONE HAS BEEN UP-TO-DATE.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE A LOT SMALLER THAT DON'T HAVE THE STAFF.

SO I THINK FOR THE CONSISTENCY THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE DATA COLLECTION, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REOPEN SAFELY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE STATE HEALTH COMMISSIONER WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN SHE MADE THIS DECISION TO CENTRALIZE IT.

>> THE ALLEN COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS YET ONE OF MANY SOURCES ALSO THAT YOU CAN BE HAPPY TO LIVE WITH.

THERE YOU SEE IT ON THE SCREEN AND THE PHONE NUMBER, AS WELL.

BETWEEN THAT WEBSITE AND THE STATE WEBSITE AND THE PARKVIEW SITE AND ON AND ON, YOU CAN BE AS EQUIPPED AS POSSIBLE.

DEB McMAHON, ALLEN COUNTY HEALTH COMMISSIONER, THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

>> YOU BET.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>> LET'S SEND IT BACK TO MARK.

>> WE APPRECIATE DEB BEING HERE, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED THIS EVENING AND WE WANT TO THANK THE PHONE BANK BEING ON HAND TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS COMING IN TONIGHT.

OUR SPECIAL GUEST AT THE PHONE BANK HERE IS DR.

LISA HATCHER.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

I ENJOYED IT.

>> VERY INFORMATIVE.

WE WILL CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS, AND WE ARE GOING TO KIND OF GET BACK INTO THE NEW NORM STARTING NEXT WEEK.

DR.

JAY FAWVER "MATTERS OF THE MIND" MONDAY AT 7:30, HEALTH LINE ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND BRUCE ON PRIME TIME HERE ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AT 7:30.

UNTIL WE SEE YOU AGAIN, WE WISH YOU THE BEST OF HEALTH.

GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD HEALTH TO YOU.