>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

MARICOPA COUNTY MITCHELL JOINS US IN THE STUDIO.

AND ENCOUNTERING NEW RESEARCH IN THE FIGHT AGAINST A DEADLY FORM OF BRAIN CANCER, AND BASEBALL HALL OF FAMER, RANDY JOHNSON, SHARES HIS LOVE OF PHOTOGRAPHY.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS, TWO 17-YEAR-OLDS ARE AMONG THE PEOPLE WASTE ARRESTED SO FAR ON THE SERIES OF ATTACKS ON TEENAGERS BY OTHER TEENS AND ADULTS IN THE SOUTHEAST VEAL -- VALLEY, FOR MORE ON THE SO-CALLED GOONS ATTACK, RACHEL, GIVE ME NUMBERS, HOW MANY ARRESTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CHARGED?

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, WE HAVE CHARGED 13 ADULTS AND 6 JUVENILES WITH CRIMES RELATED TO THOSE TYPES OF OFFENSES IN THE SOUTHEAST VALLEY >> Anchor: TWO 1-YEAR-OLDS ARE BEING CHARGED AS ADULTS, AND WHY?

>> UNDER THE LAW, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, WITHIN OUR DISCRETIONS FILE AS ADULTS AND IF THEY'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THEIR 17th BIRTHDAY, WE USUALLY ON THE TO DO THAT.

>> ARE THEY BEING DETAINED AT FACILITIES?

>> WHEN THEY ARE CHARGED AS ANADULT THEY'RE KEPT IN A SEPARATE FACILITY >> PRESTON MORE HOMICIDE.

ARE THESE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT?

>> THESE ARE ARRESTS INTO THE GEM VIOLENCE BY GROUPS OUT IN THE SOUTHEAST VALLEY >> SO NO ARRESTS SO FAR FOR PRESTON MOOREHOUSE >> THAT'S CORRECT.

BECAUSE WE'RE FINISHING UP THE FINAL PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, MY OFFICE HAS MET WITH QUEEN CREEK PD AND THE GILBERT POLICE DEPARTMENT SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CLEARED UP, BUT WE'RE MOSTLY SWIVEL IN THE DIRECTION OF CHARGING PEOPLE >> WOW SAY YOU'RE CLOSE?

>> WE'RE CLOSE.

>> ANY OTHER CHARGESLISMED TO THE PRESTON MOORE HOMICIDE?

>> THEY MAY BE WITH ASSOCIATIONS, MOTIVATIONS, THAT TYPE OF THING.

>> I THINK THAT YOU CALLED IT LINING UP THE DUCKS WITH PRESTON MOORE.

THIS HAS BEEN FRONT-PAGE NEWS AND WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM?

>> I GET THE FRUSTRATION.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WATCH EVERY DAY.

WE'RE KEEPING THE FAMILY UPDATED AS WE GO ALONG.

THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING AND EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, AND AS YOU KNOW, THEY ISSUED A STATEMENT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO SAYING WE ARE EXERCISING PATIENCE AND WE ASK THE COMMUNITY TO DO THE SAME.

AND THAT'S BORN OUT OF THEIR GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CASE.

>> SO LOOKING FOR SOMETHING RELATIVELY SOON ON THE HOMICIDE.

>> YES.

>> ONCE THE HOMICIDE CHARGES COME, WILL THERE BE MORE IN TERMS OF THE INVESTIGATION?

>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP BECAUSE WE GOT THROUGH THAT CASE.

THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF CASES AS YOU POINTED OUT THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE, AND NOT JUST CHASE BUZZ INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN EACH CASE >> PEOPLE THINK THAT WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE IS BEING COVERED UP AND BIG NAMES ARE PROTECTED AND THAT'S WHY IT HAS DID NOT SLOW ROLLED BY A VARIETY OF OFFICERS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK TO THAT?

>> I HAVE SEEN ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE TO THAT.

I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WORKING VERY HARD.

THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE, AND THE PRESTON WARD CASE INVOLVES A MULTITUDE OF WITNESSES, WE HAVE TO FIND PEOPLE TO SUBSTANTIATE THAT VIDEO IS ACCURATE AND SOME HAVE NOT WANTED TO COOPERATE AND IT TAKES TIME.

>> CHARLES RYAN, TWO YEARS OF PROBATION, A STANDOFF AND GUNNING DOWN OF OFFICERS, AND WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT?

>> AS YOU SNOW, TO CHARGE SOMEBODY WITH AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT THE PERSON INTENDED FEAR USING A WEAPON AND I LOOKED AT ALL OF THE RECORDS IN THE CASE AND ALL OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE OF THE CASE AND I SAW A PERSON WHO WAS VERY WELL INTOXICATED AND HAD TAKEN AMBIEN ON TOP OF THAT, AND WHAT CAUSED THE POLICE TO RESPOND, HE SHOT HIS SINK.

THIS WAS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD A GUN IN HIS HAND, YES, BUT THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT HE INTENDED TO PUT ANYBODY IN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES, SO BASED ON THAT, WE CHARGED INAPPROPRIATELY, DISORDERLY CONDUCT INVOLVING A WEAPON >> SOMEBODY SAKE EX-PRISON CHIEF, REFUSING TO PUT THE WEAPON DOWN, AND WHETHER ITS ALCOHOL OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE TO WONDER, IF IT HAPPENED TO ME, IF I DID THAT, WOULD I GET THE SAME TREATMENT?

>> YOU WOULD.

AND ACTUALLY, HE DIDN'T REFUSE TO PUT THE WEAPON DOWN, THEY YELLED AT HIM TO PUT IT DOWN, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE VIDEO, HE PUT IT DOWN BEFORE THEY COULD DEPLOY BEANBAG MUNITIONS AT HIM.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE CASE, AS COUNTY ATTORNEY I DON'T CARE WHO THE PERSON IS, I CARE WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT THE LAW ALLOWS, AND BASED ON THAT, HE COMMITTED DISORDERLY CONDUCT >> AND SO HIS HISTORY DID NOT COME INTO PLAY.

I KNOW THAT'STHERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO, BUT IT COULD INFLUENCE CASES COMING ACROSS YOUR DESK HERE AND YOUR THOUGHTS ON COULD SOME OF THESE CASES BE COMPROMISED BY A MESSY SCENE AT TEMPE FORENSICS?

>> ANY TIME WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AN ISSUE AND HOW IT NIGHT IMPACT THE CASE, ONE OF THE FRIENDSHIPS WE DID.

WHICH NOTIFIED THE DEFENSE BAR TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.

AND AS THE CASES WERE EXAMINED WE CLOSED IT TO THE DENSE AND LOOKED BACK ON OUR CASES TO SEE IF THAT COMPROMISED THE CASE.

WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT YET.

>> SO YOU REVIEWED THEM TO SOME EXTENT.

>> AND AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCLOSING IT TO THE DEFENSE AS QUICKLY AS WE GET IT >> HOW MUCH DOES DYSFUNCTION LIKE THAT IMPACT A COURT CASE?

BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY SEEING DEFENSE ATTORNEYS SAY WAIT A MINUTE.

>> THEY ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO ARGUE THAT AS THE DENSE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON THAT.

BUT AS YOU THOUGH, MOST CASES DON'T REST ON ONE SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE, AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT IMPACTS A WHOLE CASE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE T >> THERE WAS SOME CONCERN.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

>> WE'RE GOING TO.

>> ONE LAST POINT, THERE WAS AN ARREST I BELIEVE TODAY OF AN ASSAULT IN SURPRISE, NEVADA AND THIS IS MAKING NATIONAL NEWS BECAUSE THE SUSPECT HAS BEEN BRAGGING ABOUT DOING THESE THINGS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE >> HE RECEIVED HIS INITIAL APPEARANCE HERE YESTERDAY AND THE ATTORNEYS SHOULDER UP IN COURT AND GOT HIM HELD WITH OUT BOND AND AS I HAVE TO SAY, CHARGES ARE NOT EVIDENCE, AND WE HAVE TO BE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE HIM FOR ARE AN ATTACK IN PHOENIX AND ONE IN SURPRISE, AND BOTH OF THEM FEMALE AND HE MADE STATEMENTS THAT HE HAS DONE OTHER THINGS IN NEW YORK.

>> WILL EXTRADITION BE INVOLVED?

>> NEW YORK WANTS HIM BACK, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP HIM HERE NOW, HE'S BEING HELD WITH OUT BOND AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE CASE IN NEW YORK.

>> IS THAT COMMON PRACTICE, YOU GET THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS HERE.

>> WHEN YOU HAVE COMPARABLE CHARGES, IT'S COMMON >> ALL RIGHT, RACHEL, THANK YOU.

UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

PROMISING NEW RESEARCH IN THE FIGHT AGAINST A DEADLY FORM OF BRAIN CANCER.

>> GLIOBLASTOMA IS ONE OF THE DEADLIEST FORMS OF CANCER, AND IT CLAIMED THE LIFE OF SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN, AND JOINING US IS DR. GORA, A RADIOLOGIST AT THE CLINIC IN ARIZONA AND WHAT IS GLIOBLASTOMA?

>> IT'S A CANCER OF THE NERVOUS SYSTEM THAT REGULATES THE BRAIN TISSUE ITSELF.

AS OPPOSED TO OTHERS THAT SPREAD TO THE BRAIN.

>> IT SOUNDS PARTICULARLY AGGRESSIVE, IS IT?

>> IT IS.

WE'RE REALLY HUMBLED BY HOW IT REALLY AFFECTS THE AMERICAN POPULATION.

THE AVERAGE SURVIVAL IN MOST PATIENTS IS WELL UNDER 2 YEARS, AND OLDER PATIENTS, WELL UNDER 9 MONTHS.

>> IS IT BECAUSE IT'S SO AGGRESSIVE?

>> IT'S A COMBINATION.

MOST OF THE TIMES IT DOESN'T PRESENT UNTIL THE PATIENTS ARE HAVING PROBLEMS, AND THAT'S HOW WE DIAGNOSE IT.

ONCE WE FIND THE DIAGNOSES, IT REQUIRES THE TEAMS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT, AND DESPITE OUR BEST EFFORTS, IT TENDS TO WANT TO COME BACK.

>> IS IT DIAGNOSED MORE NOW THAN IN THE PAST >> I THINK BECAUSE OF MRI MINIMALLING, WE TEND TO GET IT MORE TIMES THAN WE USED TO.

AND 10,000 CASES A YEAR MANY >> OBVIOUSLY, IT'S OUR JOB, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HEARING SO MUCH MORE AS OF LATE ABOUT THIS FORM OF CANCER THAN IN THE PAST.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK AS CLINICIANS, WE ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH THE DIAGNOSES OF OUR PATIENTS BECAUSE IT'S SO DEVASTATING TO OUR FAMILIES, AND IT REQUIRES A MULTI-DIAGNOSES TEAM FOR CARE OF THE PATIENTS, AND WE WANT TO ENDS HELPING THEM LIVE LONGER AND BETTER.

>> WHAT IS THE TREATMENT?

>> THE TRADITIONAL COURSE, THE FIRST STEP IS SURGERY, AND IS TO HAVE THE BEST SURGICAL RESEX, AND THEN AFTER THE PATIENTS HEAL, WE USE CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION AS THE PRIMARY TOOLS TO REDUCE THE CHANCE OF THE CANCER REGROWING >> BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT HAS FINGERS, LIKE TENTACLES AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TREAT BECAUSE IT SPREADS IN THAT WAY.

>> IT DOES, SURGEONS ARE LIMITED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO.

A LOT OF TIMES, THEY TAKE TOO MUCH TISSUE, IT AFFECTS THE PATIENT'S ABILITY TO FUNCTION NORMALLY, AND WE USE RADIATION TO GET TO THE TENTACLES.

>> WE'RE USING RADIATION TO PINPOINT WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT NOW, WE'RE USING MORE ADVANCED FORMS OF MINIMALLING TO FIND THE TENTACLES AND USING IMAGING CALLED A PET SCAN AND THEN RADIATION DELIVERED BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CAUSE HARM TO THE PATIENT.

A CERTAIN DISTANCE INTO THE BRAIN TISSUE AND STOP THE RADIATION WHERE WE WANT IT TO.

>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A SPECIAL TYPE OF SUGAR YOU PUT IN THERE BECAUSE IT SHOWS MORE?

>> DOPA, IT'S A SPECIAL TYPE OF AMINO ACID TRACER, IT BASICALLY ALLOWS US TO IDENTIFY WHERE IN THE MRI IS THE MOST BIOLOGICALLY AGGRESSIVE DISEASE, AND BY STARTING THE AREA, WE ARE HOPING FOR A BETTER OUTCOME.

>> THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF MR. CASPER AND HE PARTICIPATED IN A NUMBER OF THE STUDIES AND TALK ABOUT HIM AND HOW IMPORTANT HE WAS FOR YOUR RESEARCH.

>> I THINK THAT EVERY PATIENT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND WHAT THIS PATIENT WENT THROUGH AND HIS FAMILY, HE MEANT A LOT TO ALL OF US IN THE DEPARTMENT.

WONDERFUL PERSON AND WONDERFUL FAMILY.

HE WAS DIAGNOSED IN HIS 80s WITH THE DISEASE AND MOST PATIENTS ONLY LIVE 6-9 MONTHS, AND WE EMPHASIZE QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL AS QUANTITY OF LIFE AND HE ROLLED IN ON OUR CLINICAL STUDY AND WITH GOOD FORTUNE IN TERMS OF THE PATIENTS AND POSITIVE, WITH WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP HIM, HIS LIFE WAS OVER TWO YEAR.

WE DID MUCH BETTER THAN WE CAN EXPECTED TO, AND THIS STUDY PROVIDES HOPE FOR MANY PATIENTS.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE IS INTERESTED?

>> WE ENROLLED PATIENTS LIKE MR. CASPER AND THE RESULTS WERE SO PROMISING THAT WE ARE EXPANDING TO A LARGER POPULATION TO SEE THAT THE TREATMENT IS GOOD FOR NOT ONLY OLDER PATIENTS BUT ALL PATIENTS.

>> COULD IT BE GOOD FOR OTHER FORMS OF CANCER?

>> IT REALLY REQUIRES AN INDIVIDUALIZED APPROACH WITH TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE BEST PLAN.

>> IN CERTAINLIES OF TRADITIONAL TREATMENT FOR THIS TYPE OF BRAIN CANCER, THIS IS ADVANCEMENT AND A STEP FORWARD, IS IT NOT?

>> I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, WE'RE HOPEFUL.

>> DOCTOR, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR CONTINUED SUCCESS AND THANK YOU FOR SHARE THE STORY.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[ ♪ MUSIC ] [ ♪ MUSIC ] >> RANDY JOHNSON IS BEST-KNOWN AS A BASEBALL HALL OF FAMER TO WIN A WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP WITH THE ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS, BUT HE'S A LONG TIME PHOTOGRAPHER AND SOME OF HIS PHOTOS WILL BE ON DISPLAY FOR THE SCOTTSDALE CENTER FOR IMPROVING ARTS DURING ODDLY ENOUGH, SPRING TRAINING, WELCOME, RANDY JOHNSON.

AND WHAT GOT YOU STARTED IN PHOTOGRAPHY?

>> I CAN'T PINPOINT THE MOMENT OR THE EVENT, BUT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, HAD ONE OF THOSE SMALL LITTLE CAMERAS WITH ME, A LITTLE CHEAP FLASH ON IT, AND AFTER YOU WERE DONE USING IT, YOU HAD TO BRING IT TO THRIFT HE'S AND GOT IT DEVELOPED AND THEN IT EVOLVED FROM THERE.

FAMILY EVENTS AND HIGH SCHOOL, AND I LEARNED MORE THERE AND THEN COLLEGE.

>> WHEN DID YOU REALIZE THOUGH, THAT YOU WERE JUST MORE THAN THE GUY TAKING PICTURES, THAT YOU WERE PRETTY GOOD AT THIS?

>> I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY IN COLLEGE AFTER I HAD LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT FILM CAMERAS AND DEVELOPING FILM, AND I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PHOTOGRAPH FOR THE COLLEGE NEWSPAPER, THE DAILY TROJAN THERE, AND I HAD TIMELINES AND ASSIGNMENTS, AND ENJOYED THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY AFTER I LEFT, USC IN '85, I PURSUED MY BASEBALL CAREER.

>> INDEED.

IS THERE A CHALLENGE WITH PHOTOGRAPHY THAT ATTRACTS YOU?

>> I'M ASSUMING THERE IS, AND ASSUMING I'VE RUN INTO THEM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU MISSED BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING TO SOMEONE OR YOU BLINKED YOUR EYE OR SOMETHING, BUT FOR THE MOST FARTHER, THE PARALLELS THAT I SEE, THE PITCHING THAT I HAD, THE PHOTOGRAPHY IS HAVING TUNNEL FOCUS AND BEING PREPARED AND WHAT TO EXPECT AND TO CAPTURE THAT MOMENT.

AND THE BIGGEST THING, JUST LIKE MY PITCHING BACK IN THE DAY, I KNEW MY OPPONENTS, BASED ON THE VIDEO THAT I WATCHED AND THE STATS THAT I LOOKED LIKE, AND IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I GO TO AFRICA.

I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING AND WHAT TO EXPECT AND I'M HOPING THAT THINGS PRESENT THEMSELVES BUT DEALING WITH ANIMALS AS WELL >> Anchor: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PHOTOS IN A SECOND, BUT WHAT MAKES A GOOD PHOTOGRAPH?

>> I THINK OPPORTUNITY THAT PRESENTS ITSELF, THE ONE THING THAT I THAT I CAN SAY EMPHATICALLY THAT'S TRUE, I COULDN'T FOOL ANYBODY AT THE BALLPARK TELLING THEM THAT IT WAS A PITCHED A GOOD GAME WHEN I DIDN'T.

BUT PHOTOGRAPHY IS SUBJECTIVE, EVERYBODY KNEW IN MY DAY JOB, WHAT I PITCHED WELL AND WHAT I DID.

SO THE THINGS THAT I TAKE PICTURES OF THAT I LIKE, I SHARE THEM WITH SOMEBODY ELSE AND HOPEFULLY THEY LIKE THEM AND IF THEY DON'T, IT'S OKAY, IT'S SUBJECTIVE, BUT WITH THE EXHIBIT THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING, THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IN ARIZONA NOW, THE FIRST WAS IN COOPERSTOWN, NEW YORK, A LOT OF FEEDBACK, THEY HAD NEVER BEEN TO AFRICA AND BASED ON THE WITCHES, THEY WANTED TO GO TO AFRICA AND HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

>> LET'S LOOK AT THE PICTURES AND THIS FIRST ONE IS ETHIOPIA, AND COMPOSITION, IT SEEMS THAT YOU LIKE BLACK-AND-WHITE PHOTOGRAPHY >> I THINK FOR PORTRAIT, IT'S TIMELESS AND THIS IS A CRIPE IN ETHIOPIA, THE CARO TRIBE.

I WAS JUST IN ETHIOPIA LAST AUGUST AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A DIFFERENT TRIBE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES WERE MUCH GREATER.

THE REASON BEING, I HAD AN ETHIOPIAN GUIDE AND HE WAS ALSO A PHOTOGRAPHER, AND HE KNEW WHAT TO TAKE PICTURES OF AND WHEN I ASKED HIM, WHAT ARE YOU TAKING EXHIBITS OF?

SO HE COULD COMMUNICATE AND OUT A PROBLEM AND I WAS RUSHED THE FIRST TIME I WAS THIS, AND THE RECENT TRIP THERE, I FELT LIKE I COULD DO WHATEVER I WANTED TO DO, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES PRESENTED THEMSELVES ONE AFTER ANOTHER.

>> KIND OF LIKE A SCOUTING REPORT.

>> YEAH.

>> THE NEXT PHOTOGRAPH IS OF A LION IN BLACK AND WHITE EXCEPT FOR ONE THING, THE EYES.

>> I HAVE SEB, NOT NECESSARILY WITH AN ANIMAL, BUT I HAD SEEN SOMEONE TURN IT INTO BLACK AND WHITE AND THEN THEY COLOR T. IT MAY HAVE BEEN A PERSON, BUT I LOVE BLACK AND WHITE AND IT MAKES A PICTURE TIMELESS, AND OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU TAKE SOMETHING, YOU CAN DETERMINE WHETHER IT LOOKS GOOD IN COLOR OR BLACK-AND-WHITE.

BUT I THOUGHT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN AT AN EXHIBIT.

AND LOOKING AT THE PICTURE, I'M WAITING FOR THE HEAD TO TURN AND EYES LOCK ON ME AND SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CAPTURE.

BRING HOME SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN SEE AND ENJOY AS MUCH AS I DO.

>> THERE'S ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPH AND THIS IS OF AN ELEPHANT.

AND I LOVE THE COMPOSITION.

THIS IS THE FUNNIER ONE, WITH THE BIRD ON TOP.

DID YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE BIRD OR WAS IT THERE THE WHOLE TIME?

SUNNY THE BIRD WAS GOING FOR A RIDE AND THIS IS IN KENYA, AND THEY CALL THEM SUPER TUCKERS, AND THEY'RE ALMOST PREHISTORIC LOOKING.

AND SOME OF THE ELEPHANT'S TUSKS ARE SO LONG THEY REACH THE GROUND AND THIS WASN'T IN PARTICULAR, BUT THAT'S THE THING, WHEN YOU'RE A PHOTOGRAPHER, YOU ARE TRYING TO SEEK OUT THOSE ELEPHANTS AND THEY'RE HIDING ALL THE TIME.

BUT THIS OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF.

IT WAS A GRAY, RAINY DAY AND I WAS ABLE TO GET OUT OF MY CAR BECAUSE I WAS NOT IN THE NATIONAL PARK AND I WAS AT MY OWN KISSCRETION AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A COOL PICTURE.

ALMOST A PROFILE WHERE IT'S A PROFILE PICTURE AND I DID IT IN BLACK AND WHITE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD ENCHANCE THE CLOUDS AND ALL OF THAT, AND THE THING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS EVIDENT WAS THE BIRD ON TOP OF HIS HEAD.

>> YOU GOT A BIRD.

IS THAT THE SAME ELEPHANT?

>> NO, IT'S DIFFERENT, BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL LOOKING AT THE LAST PICTURE BY LOOKING AT THE TUSKS.

ABOUTBUT THIS PICTURE, HE WAS LITERALLY 10 FEET AWAY FROM ME, AND I KNEW BASED ON MY ELEPHANTS AND GUIDE, HE WAS LETTING ME KNOW DON'T GET ANY CLOSER AND SOMETIMES THEY START FLAPPING THEIR EARS AND THAT'S TO LET YOU KNOW, BACK UP AND GET AWAY.

AND I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.

>> WE HAVE ONLY A MINUTE AND A HALF OR SO LEFT.

DO YOU EVER THINK THAT -- DO YOU SHOOT SPORTS PHOTOGRAPHY OR IS THIS MORE OF WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN?

>> I THINK THIS IS MUCH MORE RELAXING AND IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT JOHN WHAT OF A WHAT I CAN SHARE WITH PEOPLE.

THERE ARE ENOUGH SPORTS PHOTOGRAPHERS, AND JUSTIFY NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC PHOTOGRAPHERS, AND I'M NOT ONE, BUT I STARTED OFFSHOOTING ROCK CONCERTS BACK IN COLLEGE AND I STILL ENJOY THAT, AND TRAVELING AND TAKING SCENIC PICTURES AND LANDSCAPE PICTURES, BUT AFRICA, FOR WHATEVER REACH, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ANIMALS.

GOING INTO ETHIOPIA, AND UP INTO THE SILVER BACK MOUNTAINS.

>> CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF THE PHOTOGRAPHY, AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE AND GREAT TO SEE THE ENTHUSIASM FOR THE ART.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, AND THAT'S IT FOR NOW, I'M TED SIMONS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US