>>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

COUNTY ATTORNEY RACHEL MITCHELL WILL JOIN US IN STUDIO.

ALSO TONIGHT WE'LL HEAR ABOUT A NEW TRAUMA AND ADDICTION PROGRAM TO HELP VETERANS AND FIRST RESPONDERS.

MORE ON THE HENRY DAVID DOCUMENTARY THAT RECENTLY AIRED ON ARIZONA PBS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE COMING UP NEXT.

>>> ARIZONA HORIZON MADE POSSIBLE BY YOUR FIENDS FIENDS OF ARIZONA PBS.

>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME.

I'M TED SIMONS.

RACHEL MITCHELL IS JOINING US INVOLVING ISSUES INVOLVING HER OFFICE.

WE'LL TOUCH ON THE ANTI-SLAP LAW AND TRAFFIC AWARENESS PROGRAM.

JOINING US IS RACHEL MITCHELL.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> WE HAVE A JUDGE RULING ON THE EFFORTS TO OVERTURN THIS THING.

HE KIND OF RULED AGAINST YOU HERE.

>> UH-HUH.

>> OVERALL THOUGHTS ON THE RULING.

>> WE ARE TAKING IT UP TO THE COURT OF APPEALS.

WE DON'T AGREE.

WE RESPECT THE JUDGES DECISION.

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO OVERTURN THE ENTIRE STATUTE.

IT'S AS IT APPLIES TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTORS.

AS YOU KNOW, ARIZONA IS THE ONLY STATE THAT TRIED TO APPLY THIS.

>> THE ANTI-SLAP LAW PROTECTS AGAINST LAWSUITS THAT TARGET FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

>> IT'S BEEN PETARIED AS A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE.

IT'S NOT A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE.

I RESPECT THAT AND WANT TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS IT'S ABOUT WHETHER A JUDGE CAN INQUIRE INTO THE PROCESSES AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT DID THESE INDIVIDUALS COMMIT A CRIME.

>> THE JUDGE SAID YOU ARE OVERSTEPPING AUTHORITY.

A PORTION OF THE LAW SAID WHO HAS TO PROVE IF IT WAS THE LAWFULLICSER SIZE.

WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS CHARGED WITH UNLAWFUL RIGHTS AND THAT'S A TRESPASS.

OTHER CASES WE HAD ANTI-SLAP FILED AGAINST US PEOPLE ASSAULTING POLICE OFFICERS.

>> BASICALLY, THERE ARE SOME PROTESTS THAT WERE INVOLVED HERE.

ANY KIND OF A PROTEST, IF SOMETHING IS INVOLVED IF YOUR OFFICE DECIDED CHARGES SHOULD BE FILED DOES THE ORDNANCE COME INTO PLAY?

THAT'S THE INTERPRETATION THE DEFENSE WANTS TO GIVE IT.

NOT TO EP CAM PASS THIS KIND OF THING.

IT WAS EXPANDED BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL PROSECUTIONS THE LEGISLATURE WAS SEEING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP.

IT WASN'T INTENDED TO FILTER TO THIS SINNED OF THING.

YOU HAVE CERTAIN BIASES.

WHY SHOULD YOU NOT TESTIFY THERE THE CASE.

>> THERE IS A DOCTRINE ALL READY RECOGNIZED.

THAT LOOKS AT WHETHER THERE ARE SIMILAR CASES, SIMILARLY TREATED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORD OF MY OFFICE AND MY ADMINISTRATION YOU WILL SEE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE.

THERE WAS A RECENT CASE WHERE SOMEONE ATTACKED THOSE AT A MOSQUE.

WE ARE REALLY DOING THIS WITHOUT REGARD TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHICS OR POLITICAL PERSUASIONS.

I'M LOOKING AT IF THERE WAS A CRIME COMMITTED.

>> WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS A LAW?

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY PUT THIS INTO PLACE.

THEY CONSIDER THEM ANTI-TRUMP PROSECUTIONS.

THIS WAS WRITTEN TO GET JUST ABOUT EVERYONE.

A DEFENDANT SAYING I DON'T THINK YOU AGREE WITH MY IDEALS.

SOMEONE THAT'S WRITTEN LEGISLATION, THE HARDEST THING ABOUT WRITING LEGISLATION IS GET WHAT YOU WANT BUT NOT PULL IN OTHER THINGS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WAS WRITTEN SO BROADLY.

THIS IS MAKING IT UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND PULL IN THINGS THEY DIDN'T INTEND TO.

>> WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE.

>> TO THE COURT OF APPEALS.

>> WERE YOU SURPRISED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL EXPRESSED SUPPORT.

>> NO, IN FACT, OTHER PROSECUTORS EXPRESSED SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING.

SOMETHING IS GOING TO TIE THE HAND OF PROSECUTORS THAT ARE JUSTIFYING WHAT THEIR OWN BELIEFS ARE AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR RECORDS ARE AS A PROSECUTOR AND THEY KNOW, WE MAKE THE DECISION BASED ON GUILT.

>> WITHOUT GETTING TOO DEEPLY INTO THE FIGHT WITH THE BOARD.

WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT ENOUGH IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

INVOLVING HIS REPRESENTATION.

>> UH-HUH.

>> HE WANTS OUTSIDE COUNSEL.

THEY ARE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB GOING UP AGAINST THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

WHY SHOULD THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ONLY BE REPRESENTING COUNTY OFFICIALS.

>> THE LAW SAID THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY.

WHEN I AM NOT ABLE TO REPRESENT ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT IN THIS ELECTION DISPUTE BETWEEN THE BOARD AND COUNTY RECORDER.

I APPOINT AN ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT THEM.

THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT WHEN SOMEBODY GOES OUT AND GOES OUTSIDE THE VENDOR LIST.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE INTEREST OF THE COUNTY.

>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION ONE COUNTY OFFICIAL IS GOING AFTER OTHERS.

>> I APPOINT SEPARATE ATTORNEYS FOR THEM REGARDING THE ELECTIONS.

>> REALLY QUICKLY.

THIS IS AN ONGOING CASE.

THE KILLER OF THE TWO KIDS, THE CAMPERS.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO THE DEATH PENALTY ON THIS AND I WONDER WHY.

>> I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS CASE BUT I'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS I GO THROUGH FOR EVERY CASE OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER.

I'LL GET A RECOMMENDATION FOR SENIOR ATTORNEYS.

I'LL READ EXSENTENCE R EXTENSIVELY.

I'LL LOOK FOR THE WORSE OF THE WORSE.

THE MURDER OF TWO TEENS IS AWFUL.

I WILL TALK TO FAMILY AND GET THEIR INPUT.

WHEN WE SEEK THE DEATH PENALTY SOME WANT CLOSURES AND WE DON'T GET THAT CLOSURE FOR A LONG TIME, DECADES.

I'M LOOKING AT MITIGATION ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES PRIOR TO MAKING THAT DECISION.

I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

ALL OF THAT GOES INTO THE DECISION.

IF IT'D WAS BASED ON HOW TERRIBLE THE CRIME IS, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

>> IS IT BASED ON THE FACT GOING FORWARD THE PUNISHMENT MIGHT EFFECT THE JURY OUTCOME.

>> I HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT.

ALSO, WHETHER IT'S THE TIME OF EVIDENCE, AS I WOULD SAY STANDS THE TEST OF TIME.

THESE CASES DON'T MAKE IT TO TRIAL FOR FIVE TO TEN YEARS.

IF IT'S BASED ON MEMORY AND AVAILABILITY, THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.

>> DOES IT HAVE TO HOLD?

COULD YOU CHANGE IT AT A LATER DATE?

>> THERE IS A DEADLINE BY WHICH WE HAVE TO DO IT.

WE HAVE LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES BUT THE DECISION IS MADE.

>> BEFORE YOU GO, THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS CAMPAIGN YOU GOT GOING WHAT IS THAT ACTED.

>> WE JUST HAD HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH.

WE GOT A STY PENT FROM THE APPROPRIATION FROM THE LEGISLATURE THIS PAST YEAR TO TACKLE HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

AS YOU KNOW, HERE IN PHOENIX.

WE HAVE A MAJOR THOROUGH FAIR.

WE HAVE BEEN USING MONEY TO TARGET THE AREA AND CLEAN IT UP.

THIS IS NOT A VICTIMLESS CRIME.

IT DESTROYS COMMUNITIES.

PEOPLE ARE TRAFFIC THEY ARE HUMANLY VICTIMIZED.

>> YES, WE HAVE.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RESCUE SOME MINERS.

WE ARE SEEING RESULTS.

>> RACHEL MITCHELL, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> UNBROKENING IS TO HELP MILITARY THAT SUFFER PTSD AND OTHER PROBLEMS.

BILL REYNOLDS, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE.

>> GIVE US THE DEFINITION OF UNBROKEN.

>> IT'S THE NEW PROGRAM WE HAVE.

IT'D DEMONSTRATES RESILIENCE.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH ADVERSE EXPERIENCES BUT STILL STANDING.

>> IT'S AN UNDERSEVERED POPULATION.

BECAUSE OF THE STIGMA.

THEY WANT TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN,.

>> IT'S VERY INTERESTING.

THEY DON'T WANT TO ASK FOR HELP.

>> STRONG DEFINITELY.

WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT A BIG STIGMA THEY MIGHT LOSE THEIR JOBS THAT'S THE GREATEST FEAR TO LOSE THEIR GUN OR PAGE THIS IS NOT A COOKIE CUTTER TREATMENT PROGRAM.

WHAT WE DO IS EVERY SINGLE PLAN IS INDIVIDUALIZED.

WE DO A HEAD TO TOE PHYSICAL EXAMINATION ON PEOPLE.

IT'S A PROGRAM LOCATED IN WICKENBURG.

THEY COME FOR 35 TO 45 DAYS.

IT'S A VERY WELL KNOWN PLACE.

>> YES, SIR.

>> YOU ARE THE MEADOWS BUT A DIFFERENT BRAND.

I'M A 30 YEAR NAVY VETERAN AND FORMER FIRST RESPONDERS ON STAFF.

HAVING THAT CONNECTION MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE.

>> INCLUDING THE BRAIN CENTER.

>> YES.

WHAT IS THAT AND WHY IS IT IMPORTANT.

>> IT'S A NEURO FEEDBACK.

PEOPLE HAVE TECHNICIANS AND THEY REREGULATE YOUR NERVOUS SYSTEM THROUGH DEVICES WE HAVE.

>> IS IT LIKE BIO FEEDBACK.

>> YES, CORRECT.

>> HOW DID YOU GET IN, 30 YEAR U.S.

NAVY.

YOU SHOULD BE IN SAN DIEGO SOMEWHERE OR FLORIDA.

>> I AGREE.

>> YOU ARE HERE DOING THIS.

HOW DID YOU GET HERE.

>> I WANTED TO GET BACK.

BECAUSE DURING MY 30 YEARS THE TURNING POINT I HAD WAS DEPLOYMENT TO IRAQ WITH A SURGICAL COMPANY BACK IN 2004.

I WAS WITNESS TO A LOT OF THINGS.

I HAD MY STRUGGLES AND I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE AND TREATMENT WORKS.

>> WHENIO EXPERIENCED THE TREATMENT IN WHATEVER WAY YOU DID WORKING WITH FIRST RESPONDERS HOW DOES IT OR DOES IT DIFFER?

>> WHEN WE DEPLOY OVER SEAS FOR SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS IN THE ARMY OR FOR A YEAR WE GET TO COME BACK ANDS TAKE A BREAK.

WITH FIRST RESPONDERS THEY ARE THERE EVERYDAY.

OVERTIME, WE CALL THAT CUMULATIVE TRAUMA.

THEY DON'T GET A BREAK.

THAT'S WHY IT'S FOCUSED.

>> IT WAS A WONDERFUL BOOK CALLED TRIBE.

EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN GETS A COPY OF THE BOOK AND IT TALKS ABOUT HUMAN CONNECTION.

THERE IS AN EXTRA IMPORTANCE OF THAT WITH THE POPULATION.

THERE IS AN AUTOMATIC BUILT-IN BROTHERHOOD AND SISTER HOOD WITH VETERANS AND FIRST RESPONDERS.

>> WHEN YOU STARTED IT DID YOU ENVISION WHAT YOU HAVE NOW?

>> WE ARE OFF TO A GOOD START.

>> WE ARE SEEING GOOD RESULTS?

>> GREAT FEEDBACK, IT'S WONDERFUL.

>> OKAY, THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND FOR HOW LONG?

>> TWO MONTHS AGO.

>> OH, YOU HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.

>> WE ARE OFF TO A GOOD START.

WHERE DO YOU FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM OR DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MEADOWS.

>> GO TO THEIR WEBSITE.

SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THEY HAVE BEEN TREATING FIRST RESPONDERS AND VETERANS FOR MANY YEARS.

YOU CAN FIND OUT ABOUT UNBROKEN.

>> THE PROGRAM IS UNBROKEN.

THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> A NEW DOCUMENTARY ABOUT HENRY DAVID.

ITSELF TOUCHED ON NATURE, SOCIETY AND DEMOCRACY.

WE LEARNED MORE FROM THE FILMS DIRECTOR ERIC AND CHRIS ALONG WITH DR.BROWN FROM THE STUDY OF RACE AND DEMOCRACY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

I WANT TO START WITH YOU.

WHO WAS HENRY DAVID?

>> HE WAS A REMARKABLE MAN OF THE 19th CENTURY.

HE WAS A PHENOMENAL READER, WRITER, THINKER, SCIENTIST, AND SOMEBODY THE BROTHERS ERIC AND CHRIS INTRODUCED US TO ALL OVER AGAIN.

>> BEFORE WE GET TO THE BROTHERS OVER HERE.

AS FAR AS THOREAU SEEMED CURIOUS.

>> A MAN OF GREAT THOUGHTS AND DELIBERATION INFACULTY, THEY ARE LOOKING VERY DELIBERATELY AT THE WORLD AROUND THEM.

THEY ARE TAKING STOCK AND NOTE OF EACH OTHER.

TAKES NOTE OF A LIFE THAT'S DELIBERATE, PURPOSEFUL, AND BRAVE, THEY ARE TAPING INTO WHO THEY WANT TO BE AS AMERICANS AND HUMANS.

>> HOW DIFFICULT WAS THAT TO GET ON THE FILM?

>> IT WAS NOT AN EASY TASK WHEN YOU DEAL WITH THE PROS OF THE 19th CENTURY AND OF COURSE THESE,S ,S , AS SHE SAID THE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.

PART OF OUR JOB, WE BELIEVE, WAS TO SET THE STORY STRAIGHT AND REINTRODUCE HENRY, THE TO THE MASSES.

HE'S NOT THE HERMIT I WAS TAUGHT HE WAS.

MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE HE IS, IN FACT, THINKING OF HIM AS SUCH DIMINISHES IS RELATABILITY BETWEEN WHAT WAS A MAN FULL OF CONTRO CONTRADICTIONS AND US.

>> HE WAS AN EVERY MAN BUT SPECIAL EVERY MAN.

HOW DID YOU GET THAT ACROSS?

>> I THINK HE WAS AN ORDINARILY GUY.

HE WAS ECCENTRIC AND SOCIAL.

A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE CHRIS SAID THOUGHT HE WAS A HERMIT.

HE USED TO HOST MELON PARTIES.

HE WOULD WALK AROUND AND ASSOCIATE.

HE WAS WELL KNOWN.

I THINK OUR GOAL WAS REALLY TO SHOW THE REAL HENRY DAVID THOREAU.

A GUY THAT WAS MUCH MORE COMPLICATED AND AS WE DISCOVERED MORE RELEVANT THEN HE WAS IN HIS OWN TIME.

HIS WORDS AND WISDOM AND FINDING THE TRUTH INSIDE OF HIMSELF OF WHAT IS MEANINGFUL AND PURPOSEFUL AND JOYFUL TO HIM IS SOMETHING WE CAN LEARN TODAY.

>> LOIS THE IMPACT ON NONVIOLENCE, RESISTANCE, AND MODERN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

THAT IMPACT IS GROWING.

>> ABSOLUTELY, HE IS A MAN OF THE 21st CENTURY AND BEYOND.

REMINDING US OF THE POWER OF NOW BUT TAKING STOCK OF WHAT HAS BEEN, TRACKING IT.

AND THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE THAT'S AHEAD.

HE'S PAYING ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS AND HE'S ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE LARGER PICTURE, WHAT IT MEANS TO INHABIT THE WORLD AND TRAVEL IT.

>> DOING ALL OF THIS IN ANTI-BELLUM AMERICA.

THERE WERE RACE ISSUES LEATHER AND YOND.

HOW DID HE ADDRESS IT?

>> THAT'S A DEEP AND POWERFUL QUESTION.

PART OF THE NEW HENRY DAVID THOREAU WE GET WE SEE HIM AS A MAN LOOKING AT THESE MOMENTS OF ABOLITION.

HE'S IN A HOUSEHOLD WHERE WOMEN LEAD THE CHARGE OF ANG ANTISLAVERY AND WORKING ON THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD.

MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR WAY TO A LAND OF FREEDOM.

HE'S VERY MUCH INVOLVED.

>> CHRIS, AS SHE MENTIONED THOREAU.

I BEEN TALKING ABOUT THOREAU.

WHICH IS IT?

>> WHICH EVER YOU CHOSE.

>> IN THE MARGINS OF WHICH, HE PHENOMENON PHONETICALLY WROTE IT OUT.

WE GREW UP IN MASS MASS MASSACHUSETTS.

SOME SAY IT'S THOREAU.

IT'S HOWEVER YOU CAN COMFORTABLE SAYING IT.

>> I WOULDN'T CALL HIM THAT.

>> DON'T CALL HIM HANK.

>> DON'T CALL HIM HANK EITHER.

HOW DIFFICULT WAS IT TO DO.

IS THIS THE FIRST FULL LENGTH DOCUMENT DOCUMENTARY.

>> IT'S NOT THE FIRST FULL LENGTH.

THERE WAS AN INDEPENDENT FILM MAKER BUT IT IS THE FIRST NATIONALLY BROADCAST DOCUMENTARY.

WE FOUND IT, IT WAS REMARKABLE NO ONE HAD ADDRESSED HIM AS A HISTORICAL IMPORTANT PROMINENT AMERICAN.

I FOUND MYSELF SHOUTING TO HIS WIFE.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT FASHION AND MORTGAGE VERSIONS RENNING.

THE BISES LINE WAS THE MASSIVE MEN LEAVES QUIET DESPERATION.

>> I HEARD THAT BEFORE.

>> WHO DOESN'T HAVE AN ELEMENT OF QUIET DESPERATION IN THEIR LIFE.

>> YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH A KEN BURNS FILM.

>> HE INSTILLED OVER THE COURSE OF MANY DECADES THE FOUNDATION OF GREAT STORY TELLING.

I MEANIC MAKING A KEN BURNS FILM, ONLY KEN BURNS CAN MAKE A KEN BURNS FILM.

WE MADE A FILM EXECUTIVE BY KEN BURNS BUT DON WHO WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED AND HISTORY AND PRESERVATION OF WHAT WAS IN THE ONE POND.

I EDITED FOR HIM FOR 37 YORES.

WHEN YOU SAW THE FILM DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING.

THE PUBLIC FACE OF A PERSON ONLY GIVES A HUNT OF WHO THEY ARE AND KEEP GOING BACK TO THE LETTERS, DIARIES, THE MOMENT, NEWS, AND HEADLINES AND LOOK OVER THEIR SHOULDERS AND SEE WHO THEY WERE IN THAT WORLD.

IT'S A PROFOUND FILM.

>> CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL CONCERNED HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHRIS, ERIC, CONGRATULATIONS.

WE HAD YOU ON WITH THE MAYO CLINIC EIGHT YEARS AGO.

>> MANY MOONS AGO.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

>>> THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.