POLICE DEPARTMENT'S MOST RECENT INVESTIGATION INTO OFFICERS WITH TIES TO A FAR-RIGHT EXTREMIST GROUP WAS, QUOTE, MATERIALLY DEFICIENT.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO CHICAGO INSPECTOR GENERAL TEMPER, WHICH BURGE WHO ASKED THAT INVESTIGATIONS INTO 8 OFFICERS WITH TIES TO THE FAR-RIGHT GROUP.

THE OATH KEEPERS BE REOPENED, BUT CPD LEADERSHIP HAS REJECTED HER REQUEST.

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YOUR REPORT FOUND THAT THE CPS INVESTIGATION OF OFFICERS WITH TIES TO FAR-RIGHT EXTREMIST GROUPS CONDUCTED BY THE BUREAU OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS, AS WE SAID, WAS, QUOTE, MATERIALLY DEFICIENT.

WHAT WERE THE WAYS THAT YOU THINK THE INVESTIGATION CAME UP SHORT?

WE HAVE STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO REVIEW THESE INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS ONCE THEY'RE COMPLETE.

AND IF WE FIND THAT THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES MATERIALLY AFFECTING THE OUTCOME, THAT'S THE STANDARD SET OUT IN THE LONG WE CAN RECOMMEND THAT THOSE INVESTIGATIONS BE REOPENED.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

SO WE LOOKED AT THIS INVESTIGATION INTO ALLEGATIONS THAT 8 CPD MEMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE OATH KEEPERS, THE BUREAU OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION DID.

REVEAL EVIDENCE THAT ALL 8 ACCUSED MEMBERS HAD AT SOME POINT ASSOCIATED WITH THE OATH KEEPERS.

NONETHELESS, CPD FOUND NO MISCONDUCT.

WE FOUND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEFICIENCIES WHICH WE BELIEVE RISE TO THAT LEVEL OF MATERIALLY AFFECTING THE OUTCOME, INCLUDING THE INADEQUACY OF CERTAIN INVESTIGATIVE STEPS, IMPROPER INTERVIEWS WHERE ATTORNEYS FOR THE ACCUSED OFFICERS WERE ALLOWED INTERFERE WITH THE INTERVIEWS AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE FOUND THE SAME MATERIAL DEFICIENCY HERE THAT WE FOUND IN OTHER CPD INVESTIGATIONS WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS FAILED TO CONDUCT AN ADEQUATE ANALYSIS OF WEATHER ASSOCIATION WITH THE OATH KEEPERS CONSTITUTES A VIOLATION OF CPS RULES OF CONDUCT.

THEY'D OFFICERS WHO ARE ACCUSED OF BELONGING TO THE OATH KEEPERS, MEMBERS OF ATTACKED THE CAPITOL, THE U.S. CAPITOL ON JANUARY 6.

WE ALL KNOW WE'RE ONLY INTERVIEWED ON AVERAGE FOR LESS THAN HALF AN HOUR ON AVERAGE LONGEST INTERVIEW WAS 48 MINUTES.

WHAT'S THAT TELL YOU?

THAT THIS IS A DEFICIENT THIS IS NOT AN INVESTIGATION WHICH LIVES UP TO THE DEPARTMENT'S COMMITMENT TO TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY.

THAT FAILURE TO LIVE UP TO COMMITMENTS IS I THINK SOMETHING WE CODE FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WHEN IN A SEPARATE PRODUCT THAT WE PUBLISH TODAY, WE RECOMMENDED THAT THE MAYOR CONVENE A WHOLE OF GOVERNMENT TASK FORCE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE EXTREMISM IN THE POLICE RANKS.

THE MAYOR'S OFFICE REITERATED COMMITMENT HE HAS MADE TO DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE BUT DECLINED TO TAKE ANY SPECIFIC STEPS.

DO YOU SUSPECT OR DO HAVE THAT THE THAT THE DEPARTMENT'S OWN INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT, THE BIA THAT THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN THOSE INVESTIGATIONS THAT GO BEYOND WHETHER OR NOT MEMBERS HAVE TIES TO GROUPS SUCH AS THESE.

WHENEVER THERE ARE ISSUES OF INVESTIGATIVE QUALITY, THAT'S A VERY TROUBLING THING.

BOTH MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENTITLED TO A POLICE DISCIPLINARY SYSTEM IN WHICH EVERYONE HAS REASON TO BE CONFIDENT AND WHEREVER WE SEE ISSUES OF INVESTIGATIVE QUALITY, WE OUGHT TO TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

THE STAKES ARE INCREDIBLY HIGH.

IF THE CITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE SERIOUS ABOUT FOSTERING PUBLIC TRUST, WE SIMPLY HAVE TO GET THIS RIGHT.

WE CANNOT ASK PEOPLE TO TRUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHOSE MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED TO DABBLE IN HATRED AND EXTREMISM?

WELL, INTO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT THE CPD HAS REFUSED TO REOPEN THESE WHAT COULD BE THE RAMIFICATIONS WERE DEPARTMENT THAT ALL WAY ALREADY HAS A PROBLEM WITH TRUST, PARTICULARLY IN THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES.

THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

THE POLICE CANNOT EFFECTIVELY KEEP PEOPLE SAFE IF PEOPLE DO NOT TRUST AND COOPERATE WITH THE POLICE.

AND AS I SAY, I I DO NOT THINK WE CAN ASK POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN ASK PEOPLE TO TRUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHICH HAS NOT ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE.

CPD SAYS THAT NONE OF THE ACCUSED OFFICER STATED THAT THEY KNEW THAT THE OATH KEEPERS WERE AN EXTREMIST GROUP, NOR DID THEY STATE THAT THEY HAD ANY INTENTIONS OF JOINING A VIOLENT EXTREMIST GROUP.

CPD ALSO SAYS THAT NONE OF THE ACCUSED MEMBERS WERE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN THE GROUP TALKING TO SURE OF THAT.

I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY CAN FROM THE INVESTIGATIVE FROM THE INVESTIGATION THAT THEY CAN BASED ON BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE THAT INVESTIGATION, YOU FEEL THAT THERE ARE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAT THEY DID NOT ANSWER.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ON MAY 3RD, CPD SUPERINTENDENT LARRY SNELLING SAID THAT THE INVESTIGATION WAS THOROUGH AND HAD, QUOTE, REACHED OUT TO EVERYONE WHO ELSE SHOULD THEY HAVE REACHED OUT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ONLY INVESTING ARE THE ONLY INTERVIEW TO THE 8 OFFICERS IN QUESTION.

I'M PART OF THE CHALLENGE OF DOING THIS WORK IS TO IDENTIFY THESE MATERIAL DEFICIENCIES WITHOUT KIND OF MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING THE INVESTIGATION.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE INVESTIGATION ON PAPER, THE INVESTIGATION THAT CPD CONDUCTED BELIEVED TO BE MATERIALLY DEFICIENT.

CHICAGO POLICE SUPERINTENDENT LARRY SNELLING HAS CALLED IT, QUOTE, MISLEADING TO CONNECT TO THE INTO THE CHICAGO POLICE TIES WITH THE PROUD BOYS AND OATH KEEPERS TO JANUARY 6 SAYING THAT NONE OF THEM KNOWINGLY KNEW THAT THE GROUPS ARE DEDICATED VIOLENT FAR-RIGHT EXTREMISM.

IS THAT A FAIR CRITICISM OF YOUR CALL TO FIRE THESE OFFICERS?

WE'VE LAID OUT THE HISTORY OF THESE GROUPS IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.

I THINK IT IS I IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT ALL ALONG THESE GROUPS HAVE HAVE SAID WHAT THEY AND THERE'S NO REASON TO THINK ANY DIFFERENT.

THE REASON TO THINK THAT THE WERE NOT AWARE OF THE GROUPS THAT THEY WERE SIGNING UP FOR.

WHAT WERE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT THEY GAVE FOR JOINING THESE GROUPS?

OFFICERS TALKED ABOUT WANTING DISCOUNTS ON CERTAIN THINGS.

I'M WANTING TO LEARN ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES THAT THAT STRIKES ME AS A DISINGENUOUS EXPLANATION FOR JOINING EXTREMIST AND ANTI-GOVERNMENT GROUPS.

YOUR REPORT ALSO NOTES THAT THE CPD HAS MOVED IN THE PAST TO TERMINATE OFFICERS WITH LINKS TO KU KLUX OR STREET GAMES.

I'M USING THE RULE VIOLATION THAT YOU CONTEND WILL ALLOW OFFICERS WITH TIES TO RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST GROUPS TO BE TERMINATED THESE GROUPS CAN BE CATEGORIZED IN THE SAME WAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

CPD HAS RECENTLY TAKEN THE POSITION THAT MEMBERSHIP IN A GROUP WITH THE OATH KEEPERS CANNOT CONSTITUTE A RULE VIOLATION.

THAT'S IN CONTRAST TO THE POSITION CPD HAS TAKEN WITH RESPECT TO STREET GANGS AND IT'S IN CONTRAST TO THE POSITION AT CPD TOOK 50 YEARS AGO WHEN IT APPLIED THE SAME RULE TO FIRE OFFICERS FOR ASSOCIATING WITH THE.

IF THE RULE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE OATH KEEPERS.

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GETTING SEPARATE TREATMENT?

I THINK I THINK THE CITY HAS FAILED TO MEET ITS COMMITMENTS HERE WE'VE CALLED ON CPD ON THE MAYOR TO DO MORE AND TO DO BETTER.

REPORT ALSO FOUND THAT MAYOR JOHNSON HAD FALLEN SHORT OF FULFILLING HIS PROMISE TO ROOT OUT EXTREMISM IN THE RANKS.

WHAT SHOULD HE DO NOW?

HE SHOULD GET THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER.

THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT IS TOO BIG AND TOO IMPORTANT TO EXPECT A SOLUTION THAT JUST LIVES WITHIN THE 4 WALLS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE NEED TO BE IDENTIFYING AND TAKING EVERY OPPORTUNITY ACROSS CITY, RECRUITING AND HIRING AND BUDGETING AND TRAINING TO PREVENT DETECT AND ELIMINATE