AFFORDABLE BECOME A BUS WORD ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

HERE IN HAWAII IT'S NOT A TALKING POINT.

IT'S EVERY,DAY LIFE.

MEDIAN HOME PRICE HAS SURPASSED $1 MILLION.

TO LIVE COMFORTABLY FAMILY OF FOUR NEEDS NEARLY $300,000 A YEAR.

FOOD, CHILD CARE INSURANCE AND UTILITY COSTS KEEP RISING.

WHAT CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE?

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAMED KAKOU: HAWAII'S TOWN HALL START NOW.

♪ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO KAKOU: HAWAII'S TOWN HALL LIVE FROM THE HARRY AND JEANETTE WEINBERG MULTI-MEDIA STUDIO.

I'M YUNJI DE NIES.

WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT AFFORDABILITY - PARTICULARLY IN POLITICS.

THAT STRUGGLE IS NOT NEW IN HAWAII, BUT LATELY, IT SEEMS TO TOUCH EVERY PART OF LIFE.

MIXED USING IS THE MOST VISIBLE PRESSURE MOUNTAIN.

MEDIAN HOME PRICE HOVERS AROUND $1 MILLION.

PUTTING HOMEOWNERSHIP OUT OF REACH.

HOUSING IS ONLY PART OF THE STORY.

OVERALL, COST OF LIVING IS ESTIMATED TO BE 80% HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

GROCERIES COST 32% MORE.

AVERAGE ELECTRIC BILL, 9% MORE.

LONGVIEW RECENT ANALYSIS ESTIMATE THE SOMEONE RETIRING IN HAWAII WOULD NEED CLOSE TO $2 MILLION IN SAVINGS THAT'S THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY.

90% MORE FOR ELECTRICITY.

HOUSING FOOD, ACTUALITIES INSURANCE, CHILD CARE, CAN FEEL OVERWHELMING.

UTILITIES DESPITE HIGH COSTS HAWAII STILL CONSISTENTLY ARRANGES AS ONE OF THE HAPPIEST AND HELM THEIR STATES IN THE COUNTRY.

HEALTHIEST.

LIEST OVERALL WELL-BEING WE LOVE LIVING HERE MARGARITA IS GETTING HARD NL MATH IS GETTING HARD PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.

NET LOSS OF 22,000 RESIDENTS OSBORNE MORE PEOPLE MOVE AWAY ROUGHLY THE POPULATION OF KAPOLEI.

ENTIRE CITY GONE.

SO WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO CREATE A HAWAII THAT PEOPLE CAN THACTUALLY AFFORD?

KAKOU MEANS ALL OF US — AND TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION IS ABOUT EXACTLY THAT: BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER FROM ACROSS HAWAII TO TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT SO MANY OF US ARE FACING, AND SHARE IDEAS ON HOW TO SOLVE THEM TOGETHER.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU IN OUR DISCUSSION.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS.

WE'RE ALSO STREAMING LIVE AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND OUR YOUTUBE PAGE.

IN OUR TOWN HALL TONIGHT, WE HAVE PEOPLE WORKING ON HOUSING, FOOD ACCESS, LENDING, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC POLICY, ALONG WITH A HOUSING DEVELOPER, A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, AND A UNIVERSITY STUDENT.

AHEAD OF TONIGHT, WE WENT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT HOW THE HIGH COST OF LIVING IS SHAPING THEIR LIVES.

WHAT'S HARDEST THING AFFORD TO HAWAII?

>> GROCERIES WE NEED TO GO MORE TOWARDS SELF-SUFFICIENCY.

AND SELF-SUSTAINABILITY AND THAT MEANS FARMING OUR LANDS, WITH FOOD THAT PEOPLE OUR PEOPLE WILL EAT.

WHICH MEANS CHANGE IF OUR OWN MIND SET AND DIET.

>> CAN'T NEIGH MAKE IT YOUNG CHILDREN.

SIXTEEN DOLLARS AN HOUR, CAN'T BUY FOOD OR RENT.

300% WHEN KID PA PANG MANGO COSS 5 BUCKS.

DISPENSE ISSUE VERY HARD.

I'M RETIRED NOW ONLY HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY.

EXPENSIVE.

IT'S DIFFICULT VERY DIFFICULT.

YEAH.

I HAVE TO ASK FOR MY SON'S HEALTH, YEAH.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE HEALTH NOWADAYS.

FAMILIAR THEORIES HAVE HELP ONE ANOTHER.

FAMILIES HAVE TO HELP ONE ANOTHER.

OTHERWISE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.

YOU HAVE HELP.

DON'T THINK HAWAII WILL BE AFFORDABLE UNLESS WE GIVE LAND BACK TO NATIVE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY AND S GROW OUR OWN FOD AND STOP RELYING BRINGING STUFF IN THE MAINLAND.

>> LET'S BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION WITH PANEL NOW.

START WITH LEIALOHA TUMBAGA.

WHAT KIND OF CALLS ARE YOU GETTING?

>> SO LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, IT IS AROUND AFFORDABILITY BUT T HIGHEST NUMBER ONE IS HOUSING P UNDER HOUSING IS SHELTER, RENT ASSISTANCE, LOOKING FOR HOUSING.

2 IS FOOD, SNAP AND 3 IS UTILITIES.

BASICALLY, ALL OF THOSE TOP THREE ARE UNDER UMBRELLA OF AFFORDABILITY.

>>Yunji: YOU WORKED THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

HOW HAVE YOU HEARD CALLS CHANGE OVER T OVER TIME?

RNL SOUNDS LIKE MORE LEANING TOWARDS, DEFINITELY HOUSING.

FLUCTUATED USUALLY BEEN FOOD, AND RENT.

IT'S USUALLY BEEN ALL OF THOSE THREE.

RENT HAS BEEN MORE PERSISTENT AND NOW SNAP BECAUSE OF THE EFFECT OF CHANGES OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SNAP.

LAST YEAR.

AS WELL AS WHAT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.

>>Yunji: TALK ABOUT FOOD.

FOR THAT WE WANT TO TALK TO GENEVIEVE MUMMA FOOD EQUITY POLICY ANALYST, APPLESEED CENTER FOR ECONOMIC DISWRIS.

WORK FOCUS O ECONOMIC POLICY AND FOOD EQUITY.

WHAT DO WE KNOW WHO IS STRUGGLING THE MOST TO EAT?

HAWAII?

>> GREAT QUESTION.

MERE IN HAWAII, REALLY JUST OUR WORKING FAMILIES.

SO SOMETHING THAT ALOHA UNITED WAY WORKS ON A LOT IS A.L.I.C.E.

POPULATION.

ASSET LIMITED INCOME CONSTRAINED BUT EMPLOYED POPULATION.

SO THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE STRUGGLING, THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING, PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ONE, TWO, MAYBE THREE JOBS TO PROVIDE THEIR FAMILY.

STILL STRUGGLING.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TRY TO WORK ON AND THAT'S WHEN WE SEE.

TRY TO WORK WORK FAMILIES, PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING STILL TRYING I THINK WE ALL PROBABLY SEE THIS THAT WITH OUR OWN FAMILIES.

NOT LIKE WE'RE NOT HARD WORKERS.

HERE IN HAWAII.

I WOULD SAY WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF THAT.

BUT STILL AFFORDABILITY IS A QUESTION, ISSUE.

>>Yunji: YEAH.

CONTINUE ON WITH FOOD.

AND TALK TO MALIE CONTRADES PROGRAM MANAGER AT MALAMA KAUAI WORK ON FOOD ARC ASSESS SS SFOOD ACCESS.IMPROVING FOOD SYS.

GROCERIES WENT O INTO THE COMMUNITY.

FROM YOUR PEDA PERSPECTIVE WHAT KIND OF CHOICES PEOPLE HAVING TO MAKE WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORD TO EAT?

>> WHEN I LOOK AT DATA FROM PAST YEAR, WE WERE THANKFUL ENOUGH TO HAVE GRANT FUNDING NEARLY $800,000 OF GRANT FUNDING WENT INTO FEEDING COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITIES FOR FREE.

AND FOR ME, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A LOT MORE NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY THERE HELP WE'RE HERE KAKAAKO, TAKES ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO FEED THE COMMUNITY.

NONPROFITS HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS GRANT FUNDING.

PASS THAT ALONG NOT JUST DIRECTLY TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT ALSO TO SUPPORT OUR FARMERS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT FARMER IT'S THEY ARE NOT RAISING COSTS OF THEIR PRODUCTS AS FAST AS IMPORTED GOODS ARE.

LOOKING AT FR GROCERIES HAVE A FOOD HUB WHERE YOU CAN BUY FRESH LOCAL BREAD FOR SIX DOLLARS.

THAT'S BAKED FRESH.

VERSUS GO TO NEAREST GROCERY STORE AND BREAD IS TEN DOLLARS.

BBUY INVESTING SUPPORTING LOCAL FARMER MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR COMMUNITY AND FAMILIES TO PURCHASE NUTRITIOUS FOOD.

>>Yunji: HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF FOOD SUSTAINABILITY.

ABOUT GROWING OUR FOOD.

LETS CONTINUE IN THAT THAT WITH PAUL ARINAGA FOUNDER OF GROW GOOD HAWAII.

ORGANIZATION WORKING TO STRENGTHEN LOCAL AGRICULTURAL AND EXPAND ACCESS TO FRESH FOOD ACROSS ISLAND.

YOU WORK CLES THOSE WHICH WITH LOCAL FARM.

WHAT IS THE D DISTANT TEBLGHT IMPORTANT TO BUY LOCAL.

SUPPORT AG.

DOESN'T HANNEMANN AT THE PACE IT NEEDS TO BE.

>> PART OF REASON I STARTED GROW GOOD IS BECAUSE, I USED TO WORK IN THE COMMERCIAL AGRICULTUSECTOR IN HAWAII FOR BF PEPERIOD OF TIME.

AGRICULTURE SECTOR.

HUGE AMOUNT OF FRUSTRATION, VERY HARD TO MAKE IT AS A FARMER.

IN THIS STATE.

PARTICULARLY ON THIS ISLAND.

SO WHAT WE ARE GROW GOOD TRYING TO DO IS TO PROMOTE BACKYARD GROWERS, ESTABLISH A REINFORCE THE NETWORK OF THESE BACKYARD GROWERS REGULAR PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY LIKE ALL OF US.

WHO CAN GROW THEIR OWN FOOD AND NOT 100% SELF-SUFFICIENT, DEGREE OF SELF-SUFFICIENCY.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE, PARTICULARLY IS WHAT WE CALL BACKYARD ADDING ROW FORESTRY.

AGORA.

HAVING TIERS OF DIFFERENT BANANA, PAPAYA, IF YOU HAVE SPACE, MANGO ULU, ETHIOPIAN SOME OTHER, GROUND COVERS, WANTS ANNUALS TOMATOES ET CETERA.

TRYING TO MAKE IT REALLY EASY LIKE REALLY LOW MAINTENANCE SO PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO WORK TWO OR THREE JOBS CAN STILL HAVE THIS KIND OF GARDEN.

AND PRODUCE A FAIR QUANTITY OF THEIR OWN FOOD.

SO THAT THEY BECOME MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND HOPEFULLY, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY HAVE TO SPEND AT THE GROCERY STORE.

>>Yunji: I THINK THE LAST PART OF WHAT YOU SAID IS SO IMPORTANT.

YOU TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING SEVERAL JOBS AN STILL BEING ABLE TO DO THIS.

FIRE THE LOT OF US.

FEELS LIKE FOR A LOT OF US I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT MAYBE JUST EASIER FOR BUY IT HE STORE.

>> YEAH, DEFINITELY, THAT'S A REAL CHALLENGE BECAUSE AS.

HERE KNOWS, COSTCO IS LIKE ISLAND INSTITUTION WITHOUT COSTCO A LOT PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SURVIVE HERE HERE I THINK.

NEED TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

WHICH IS NOT ONLY COMMERCIAL GROWERS BUT ALL OF US.

AND DEFINITELY ALSO HEALTH TBINT BENEFITS IN TERMS OFER CREATING MORE PERSONALLY APERSONALLYALBIZIA AREA RUN CANS CORAL REEF.

REDUCE HEAT ISLAND AFFECT OF ONLY FOOD ALL OF HOST OF OTHER BENEFITS FROM, PEOPLE DOING MORE GARDENING AT HOME.

AND WHAT I LIKE TO SAY, LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, THIS REALLY I FEEL LIKE GIVES PEOPLE A FEELING OF POWER.

POWERFUL.

THE EMPOWERING.

THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE NEED.

WE'RE SO LIKE BENTO DOWN BYBEAT BEETEN DOWN COST OF LIVING HERE.

BEATEN DOWN.

FRUSTRATING AND HARD IN A WAY.

PEOPLE NEED SOME HOPE.

>>Yunji: I LOVE THAT IDEA.

HAVING AGENCY.

OVER YOUR OWN FUTURE.

AND BEING ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR FOOD WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

MOVE TO KEONI DEFRANCO WORKS WITH PURPLE MAI'A FOUNDATION.

NATIVE HAWAIIAN LED PROPHET FFOCUSED NOTHING, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND ALOHA AINA.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAWAII SHOULD BE OWN FOOD LARGER SCALE.

TALK A LOT OF DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK STANDING IN THE WAY OF A AG LARGER SCALE.

>> ROOT THE NO LAND ACCESS.

OR APED OWNERSHIP OF LAND.

OWNERSHIP OF LAND.

HIGHHEHISTORICALLY LAW 1993, APY LAW.

U.S.

VOSM IN THE OVERTHROW OF THE WAHINE KING.

U.S.

INVOLVEMENT.

ACKNOWLEDGES, HAWAIIAN KINGDOM.

NATIVE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE NEVER LENLT RIGHT TO SOVEREIGNTIER A SELF-DETERMINATION AND ALSO, ACKNOWLEDGES THAT 1.8 ACRES OF HAWAIIAN KINGDOM AND CROWN LANDS WHEN WE LOOK AT, UNAFFORDABILITY IN HAWAII, IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT REVENUES GENERATED OFF PUBLIC LAND TRUST.

AND LACK OF STATE LEGISLATURE THAT IS CON CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIRED TO FUND OHA 20% OF THEIR REVENUES BALLPARK OF $300 MILLION.

TODAY FUND LESS THAN 5%.

OHA GETTING $20 MILLION SHOULD BE GETTING $80 MILLION.

SO I THINK TAN, A LOT OF THIS IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, A LOT OF THIS IS, CENTERED IN OWNERSHIP AND CENTERED IN OUR WAI, WATER SYSTEMS ARE BEING DIVERTED.

HOW CAN WE ACE COLLECTIVE BUILD AUTONOMY, BREAK ADRI DAMS.

BUILDING REGION OUT ON AM I RETURNING BAND TO OUR COMMUNITIES, AUTONOMY, TRAINING THEM PROVIDE FOOD AND EQUIPMENT WAY TO ACHIEVE MORE FOOD SOVEREIGNTY CATHERINE NGO CATHGOALS STATEOF HAWAII.

>>Yunji: HARDEST THING TO AFFORD IN HAWAII, TWO THINGS CAME I AM KA UP FOOD AND HOUSING.

>> GOT HERE IN 1968, YOU COULD BUY HOUSE AND LOT IN KAHALUU FOR $30,000.

SAND LOT, NICE STILL NICE.

SELLING FOR 6 OR $700,000.

PRICE OF RENTALS, GOT ALL MY KIDS LIVING WITH ME.

CAN'T AFFORD OWN.

BUILD MORE HOUSING FOCAL LOTUS HOUSE.PRICED OUT.

HAWAIIAN HOMES 150 YEARS.

NEVER GOT PROPERTY.

>> LESS BUILDING CONDOMINIUMS MORE FARMING.

TO CREATE SUSTAINABILITY.

AND MORE LOCALLY OWNED INSTEAD OF FOREIGN OWNED.

>> TRYING TO DO LIKE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING STUFF.

AND I THINK THAT IS GREAT.

ALSO DOING LIKE THE PREPOAFERL PREPROFESSIONAL AND PROFESSIONAL H HOUSING AMAZING JUSTIN REALLY HARD BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THAT MANY CHALLENGES NOW PROTECT HAWAII RESIDENTS.

MANY CHANNELS HAWAII PEOPLE LOCALS FROM THE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE GOT QUAD RAT LUNGWORM DISEASE WANT TO MOVE HERE.

QUAILED QUAD MILLION DOLLARS GOT HERE.

>>Yunji: PETER SAVIO SPENT DECADES HOUSING PROJECTS ACROSS HAWAII.

EVERY ELECTION CYCLE AFFORDABILITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TALKING ABOUT IT.

WHAT STANDARD DEVIATIONING IN THE WAY.

>> STANDING IN THE WAY?

>> AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN REAL ESTATE 70 PLUS YEARS ALWAYS HAD A BE PROBLEM WITH HOUSING.

BEFORE I TALK ABOUT HOUSING LIKE GO TO FARMING FIRST.

I'M ALSO DOING AFFORDABLE FARMS NOW.

FASCINATED LOOK AT THE HISTORY WE HAVE ABANDON OUR SMALL FARMER.

BY GOING TO THE PLANTATIONS.

AND EVEN UP TO THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES OF THE DISCOURAGED MORE FARMERS.

ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SMALL FARMS.

REEL CAME OUT WITH PROJECTS DOING ONE AND TWO ACRE FARMS WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE LUCKY GET 3 OR 400 BUYERS.

THOUSAND OF PEOPLE SHOW UP.

THE LAND WAS PRICED WELL.

THEY WANTED TO ABLE TO FARM.

IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ONE OF THE FARMERS TOLD ME, PETER, IF YOU BUY FIVE ACRES OR MORE, YOU'RE NOT A FARMER.

YOU'RE A BUSINESS ANIMAL WHO FARMER.

BUSINESSMAN WHO FARMS.

I DON'T WANT A CAN'T, ATTORNEY, EMPLOYEES I'M A FARMER I WANT TO FARM.

I WANT ONE OR TWO ACRES.

BUT CITY COUNCIL, STATE GOVERNMENT, DOES NOT ALLOW SMALL FARMERS.

THEY ONLY ENCOURAGE LARGE FARMERS.

THAT'S THE MISTAKE.

THE SMALL FARMER COULD MAKE HUNDREDS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR GROWING CROPS.

I WAS SURPRISED AT THE QUALITY OF CLIENTS THEY WILL HAD.

BEST HOTELS BEST RESTAURANTS TELLING THEM HOW DO YOU PICK UP.

THAT CLIENT?

CAMBODIAN, HE'S CAMBODIAN.

HOW STUPID OF ME.

OF COURSE.

THIS IS HAWAII.

HOW IT WORKS.

>>Yunji: WHAT INTERESTING IS WE HEAR TIME AND AGAIN NOBODY WANTS TO FARM.

FARMERS ARE ALL AGING OUT NOBODY WANTS THESE JOBS.

YOU'RE SAYING CONTRARY TO THAT NAURU TIF.

NARRATIVE.

SURPRISED.

CHANGED MY WHOLE ATTITUDE ABOUT FARMING.

HE WARM-UPS HE CAN SOUTH SHORE FOOD PROBABLE CAN FOORVE FOOD PROBLEMS.

GET AWAY FROM LARGE FARMER MAINLAND FARM INSTITUTION NL A FARMER.

SMALL FARMER FIVE ACRES OR LESS, PEOPLE GROW WHAT WE NEED TO GROW, MAKE THE MONEY.

THEIR KIDS WILL PROBABLY FARM.

THEIR CHILDREN ONE WHO SAY, DIDAD FORGET FIVE YEARKTS ACREST WHAT TO DO 20 OR 20.

SMALL FARMS 1 OR 2-ACRE.

GREATEST PEOPLE HARDEST WORKER EVER SEE SEEN YOU'VE GOT FARMERS 80 AND 90 YEARS OLD FARMING FOR 40 YEARS AND THEY'RE IN BETTER SHAPE THAN ME?

BACK TO US HOUSING PIECE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE CAN'T HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOUSING.

THERE'S NO REASON IN THE WORLD WE CANNOT HAVE THREE BEDROOM HOUSE $500,000.

OUR PROBLEM IS WE'RE TRY TO CONTROL PRICE.

YOU CANNOT CONTROL PRICE.

PRICE IS DETERMINED BY THE COST OF LUMBER.

COST OF CEMENT, COST OF NAILS, SHIPPING.

CAN'T CHANGE THAT.

THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORD IN THE WORLDCHANGE IS MONTHLY PI COULD TAKE MILLION DOLLARS HOME AND GIVE YOU MONTHLY PAYMENT OF $500,000 HOME.

LIKE THAT.

>>Yunji: HOW?

>> LEGISLATURE JUST H HAS TO MAKE A FEW CHANGEMENTS SO FAR HAVE REFUSED.

CHANGES, I'M WRITING A BOOK.

I WHEN THIS C CAMARILLO COMES OUTER WRITE A BOOK.

START COMPLAINING HOW WE CAN DO IT.

HOUSING CRISIS CAN BE SOLVED.

FOOD CRISIS P CAN BE SOLVED COST OF LIVING WITH ROBOT DOE W. HAWAII 20 YEARS.

PAID OFF THEIR LOAN.

ALL OF THAT MONEY NOW IS THEIRS.

WHEN YOU TWO BACK TO THE 1960 RAY HE IS, HOUSE COST $25,000.

1960S.

$250 AFFORDABLE.

YOU ONLY EARNED $700 A MONTH.

HUSBAND AND WIFE WORK PERSON WHO RENTED THAT HOUSE, TILL TODAY, PAID OVER $2 MILLION IN RENT.

PERSON WOULD BOUGHT IT PAID $29,000 IN INTEREST.

THAT WHAT WE DON'T SEE.

I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, DON'T LOOK AT REAL ESTATE TODAY.

LOOK AT OVER 60 YEARS.

WHEN YOU GO BACK 60 YEARS YEAR AND YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU SEE MAUI WESTMIWEALTH CREATED, ONCEA HOUSE LOCK IN BIGGEST COST OF LIVING FOR 30 YEARS.

PAY PAY RACESES TOWARD THAT, MAY PAY LOAN OFF TEN TO 15 YEARS.

NO MORTGAGE ALL THAT MONEY COMING IN.

ELECTRICITY SHOULD BE FREE TO US.

WE HAVE PHOTOVOLTAIC.

WHAT DID WE DO?

BOUGHT MAINLAND HAOLE BUY OUR FARMS.

DIDN'T SELL THEM TO OUR PEOPLE.

DID COMMUNITY SOLAR EVERYBODY IN HAWAII WOULD PAY NO ELECTRICITY.

LEGISLATURE DIDN'T PUSH IT.

PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION DIDN'T PUSH IT.

ELECTRIC COMPANY DIDN'T USUAL PUSH IT THEY DON'T CARE.

REALLY DON'T CARE.

SOLUTION WAS THERE.

DIDN'T DO IT.

IT'S CONSTANT EVERYTHING YOU LOOK ATMENT THEY'VE DONE.

OVER THE LAST 6 O YEARS.

HAS MAKE OUR HOUSING MORE EXPENSE EVERYONE.

COST OF LIVING MORE EXPENSIVE TROUBLE IS DON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THEY SUBSIDIZE IT.

THEY GIVE YOU GRANT FOR ELECTRICITY IT I. NO.

MAKE ELECTRICITY FREE.

GIVE YOU GRANT PAY TAXES.

NO.

REDUCE TAXES.

GIVE YOU GRANT FOR HOUSING AND FOOD.

NO.

SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED.

>>Yunji: THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.

MOVE TO JEFF GILBREATH IN HOUSING SPACE.

CEO OF HAWAII COMMUNITY LENDING.

HELPS LOCAL FAMILIES ACCESS FINANCE WILLING AND PATHWAYS TO HOMEOWNERSHIP.

FINANCING, IN THAT VIDEO EARLIER WE HEARD ABOUT PEOPLE HAVE HAVING TO LIVE MULTIGENERATIONAL HOUSEHOLDS.

HAWAII HAS HIGHEST MULTIGENERATIONAL LIVING EXACERBATION.

SITUATIONS KID HAVE LIVE WITH MOM AND DAD OR MOVE AWAY OF WHAT ARE BIGGEST CHALLENGES YOU SEE FOR LOCAL FAMILIES TRY TO GO ACCESS CAPITAL TO BUY A HOME.

>> STARTS WITH, SIMPLY PRICE OF HOME.

AND PETER WAS MENTIONING, I THINK EVEN KEONE ALLUDED TO IT, IF P WE IF WE CONTINUE TO RN FOR PROFIT, DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE A FOR PROFIT MASON HO TISSUE, IN MOTIVE IN BUSINESS MODEL NOT GOING TO REACH THE INCOME LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO, OF HAVE IS WHO ARE LOWER THAN MARKET.

INDIVIDUALS AND SO NONPROFITS GET INVOLVED, IN THE PROCESS, WE ATTACK THE PROFIT MOTIVE OUT OF HOUSING.

TAKE THE, CRITICAL COMPONENT MAKING HOUSING AFFORDABLE AFFOR.

MULTIGENERATIONAL FAN LISTS WE HAVE ABILITY TO MOBILIZE AS NONPROFITS COME TOGETHER AS NONPROFITS, TO CONTROL THE PROCESS THAT IS HE ABOUT WE CAN BRING IN SMALL BILLER NOT BL BUILDER NOT JUST SMALL FARMER.

READ IT O COME ON BUILD AND FAIBILL FOR FAMILIES LIKE THEIR.

NEED A SHOT TO GET IN THE GAME A LOT OF THESE, ISSUES I THINK OVERLAP.

BUT I WOULD SAY NONPROFITS PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN BRINGING THAT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY TO THE FAMILIES.

IT IS ABOUT PRICE.

IF WE CAN GET THEM AFFORDABLE MORTGAGE.

THAT AFFORDABLE MONTHLY PAYMENT, THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF IT AS WELL.

>>Yunji: I THINK JEFF RAISED VERY GOOD POINT.

WE CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT IT BUT DON'T TO ITER ARE.

THAT IS SUPPORT THE LOCAL GUY.

OUR CONTRACTORS TEND TO BE LARGE CONTRACTORS FO FOREIGN OL.

LARGE DEVELOPERS, MAINLAND OWNED PROFIT LEAVES.

GUTTING OUR ECONOMY.

WHEN WE ALWAYS ALL LOCAL CONTRACTORS ALL THAT MONEY WOULD STAY HERE.

GO TO OUR PEOPLE.

GO TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND, SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING.

WE NEED TO BUILD P FOR HAWAII'S CONTRACTORS.

BUILD FOR HAWAII'S VERLTS OF DES INVOLVE THEM IN THE PROCESS THE WE HAVE TO STAY TOGETHER.

WORK TOGETHER.

THAT'S ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO SURVIVE.

CAN'T CONTINUALLY SHIP ALL OF OUR WEALTH TO THE MAINLAND TO THE MAINLAND STOCKHOLDERS MAINLAND OWNERS WE NEED TO KEEP IT IN OUR STATE.

>>Yunji: ANOTHER THEME WE HEARD AGAIN AND AGAIN AROUND THIS TOPIC WHETHER YOUNG PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO STAY HERE IN HAWAII.

AND TRULY MAKE IT.

TAKE A LOOK.

>> LOCAL PEOPLE MOVING AWAY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

ANY MORE.

YOUNG PEOPLE.

GOING TO SCHOOL THERE AND JUST STAYING ON MAINLAND.

BECAUSES A LOT CHOPU CHEAPER.

REALLY DID YOU HAVE GROWING UP HERE KNOWING THAT, YOU'RE NOT SURE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RAISE KIDS HERE.

IDEAL.

GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE.

BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS MIND FOREFRONT OF ALL OF US.

LIVING CHECK TO CHECK, MONTH-TO-MONTH.

THINKING ABOUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN STAY.

BUT IT'S HARD TO MAKE A TEN YEAR PLAN EVEN FIVE YEAR PLAN KNOWING THINGS CHANGE SO MUCH.

MORE THAN ANYTHING.

I WOULD DO ANYTHING TO COME BACK HOME.

I WANT TO FINISH MY DEGREE.

AND PERRY T BRING THAT BACK HERD MAKE A BETTER FUTURE FOR THE KEIKI AND EVERYTHING.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS.

BUT REALISTICALLY, KNOWING THAT I HAVE TO GO TO GRAD SCHOOL AND BE IN DEBT, COMING HOME IS MAYBE FARTHER DOWN THE LINE THAN I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE.

PROBABLY HAVE TO GET A JOB ON THE MAINLAND AND BE A FEW YEARS DOWN THE LINE THERE BEFORE I CAN AFFORD RENT HERE.

>>Yunji: I SEE ZIYUN LI NOD DOING THIS COMPONENT.

WANT TO GO STRAIGHT TO HER.

STUDENT AVOID GRADUATING THIS YEAR.

WHEN YOU AN YOUR R YOUR FRIEND TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE DO YOU SEE YOURSELVES BEING ABLE TO BUILD A LIFE HERE?

GREAT QUESTION.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S DEFINITELY REALLY HARD WITH THE CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW.

ESPECIALLY WHEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS ABOUT JOB SECURITY TOO AND ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE MINIMUM WAGE IN HAWAII IS EVEN AFFORDABLE FOR SOMEONE TO LOVE HERE.

AND I BEEN WORKING 2 TO 3 JOBS EVER SINCE I COULD START WORK.

EVER SINCE I WAS 15-AND-A-HALF YEARS OLD TO NOW.

21 NOW.

AND EVEN THEN, WORKING TWO JOBS, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE A LIFE WHICH ARE FEEL LIKE I COULD STAY HERE.

AND ALSO, TRYING TO SUPPORT MY FAME WILL AT THE SAME TIME.

FAMILY AT THE SAME TIMEMENT PAY MY MOTHER'S MORTGAGE BIG THING ALSO WITH UNIVERSITY TUITION.

I DO GET A LOT OF FEDERAL HELP WITH THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S JUST DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW.

TO KIND OF SEE A FUTURE WHEN YOU ALWAYS FEEL LIKE YOU'RE TRYING SO HARD AND YET, THE PRICES DON'T MATCH UP AND AFFORDABILITY ISN'T TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH CONVERSATION.

AND THEN ALSO, HOUSING JUST GETS MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE.

AS A FULL-TIME STUDENT, IT REALLY IS A TOUCH DECISION OF WHETHER OR NOT TOUGH DECISION WHETHER OR NOT HAWAII IS A PLACE I WANT TO STAY, HAD SO MANY THOUGHTS WHERE MAYBE I SHOULD MOVE TO THE MAINLAND.

JUST BECAUSE OF HOW HARD IT IS.

>>Yunji: WHAT IS KEEPING YOU HERE?

>> WORK THE COMMUNITY.

EVERYBODY SAYS, THAT IS WHAT THE HEART OF HAWAII IS ALL ABOUT.

THE COMMUNITY.

THE PEOPLE.

ALOHA SPIRIT.

AND ALSO, JUST ALL OF THE AMAZING PEOPLE THAT I MET HERE, THAT REALLY SHAPE WHO I AM TODAY.

AND YEAH, IT'S TOUGH DECIDING BETWEEN WHETHER OR NOT I WANT TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT SO FILLED WITH ALOHA SPIRIT, OR MOVE ELSEWHERE FOR THE SAKE OF MY FUTURE AND MY CAREER.

>>Yunji: THAT IS A DIFFICULT DECISION.

TALK TO JALENE KANANI SNOW, FOUNDER OF NOHO HOME, HAWAII BASED DESIGN COMPANY ROAD IN NATIVE HAWAIIAN CULTURE.

WE JUST HEARD FROM ZIYUN LI ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE AROUND SORT OF PUSH PULL SHE FEELS.

YOU'RE AN ENTREPRENEUR.

HAD TO BUILD THIS BUSINESS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IT'S LIKE FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE BUILT, IN YOUR SPACE AND SAMUEL URBAN SEARCH SMAL SMALL BUSINESS SPACE COMES TO MAKING IT HERE IN HAWAII.

>> CHALLENGING.

IT RT IS IT AS OFF BEING EXCITING.

BUT AS, REALITIES OF BEING SMALL BUSINESS, COME TO PASS, IT REALLY PEOPLE WILL FALL AWAY.

SMALL BUSINESSES CLOSE.

BUT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE I THINK JUST 80% OF ALL OF THE BUSINESSES, AND I THINK TO KIND OF RIF OFF OF PETER AND JEFF, ACCESS TO CAPITAL.

SO BIG CONTRACTORS OR BIG DEVELOPERS GET PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO CAPITAL TO PURCHASE THE LAND.

OR FUND THE CONSTRUCTION.

SIMILARLY, IN FOOD PRODUCTION, THE LARGE FARMER WHO HAS NETWORK AND CAN HAVE REALLY GREAT ACCESS TO RESOURCES, IS BECOMES VERY SUSTAINABLE AND WHEN YOU ARE SMALL, AND IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, YOUR CHOICES ARE SO MUCH MORE LIMITED AND SO I THINK THAT MY THING IS NO SILOS CREATES SYSTEM.

SYSTEMS AND PATH WAYS WILL REALLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED TO RAISE EVERYONE IN HAWAII.

EQUALLY.

IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT, AT EVERY LEVEL, AND REALLY BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE PLANNING, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK WE'LL JUST KEEP SPINNING OUR WHEELS IN OUR OWN LYLE R LULL SEWELL OWES.

>> ISSUE LITTLE SILOSMENT ISSUE YOU'RE RAISING O FINANCING, SOLUTION IS WHAT FASCINATES ME.

GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED YOU.

GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE A PROGRAM FOR SM SMALL BUSINESSES THEY KNOW WE'RE 80% ST.

PAUL BUSINESS.

WE STRUGGLE FOR FINANCING.

SMALL DEVELOPERS HAVE TROUBLE.

WHY DO THEY OPT OUT FOR WEALTHY MAINLAND HAOLE A NOT JUST PASS A LAW HERE SAYS WE'LL GUARANTEE YOUR LOAN?

IT WE'LL HAD HE HELP YOU HELP OUR PEOPLE SUCCEED.

KEEP WANTING TO BLAME OURSELVES.

AND IT'S OUR GOVERNMENT THAT HAS FAIL US.

WE NEED TO TELL THEM I NEED FINANCING.

DON'T TELL ME TO GO TO THE BANK.

BANK IS NOT GOING TO LOAN THE MONEY.

THEY COULD GIVE IT TO WEALTHY MAINLAND GUY AND BE SAFER.

YOU THE GOVERNMENT HAVE TO SET UP A PROGRAM TO FINANCE US.

OUR GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED US.

YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A SOLUTION ANYONE ELSE CHANGE.

>>Yunji: BRING IN THE AUDIENCE TO SOME OF THIS CONVERSATION.

JACK FROM KAPOLEI WRITING IN, JEFFREY WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TAKE TO THIS ONE.

DEFINE AFFORDABLE WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING?

AFFORDABILITY IS A MYTH.

SOMETIMES MORE LUKE A POLITICAL TALKING POINT THAN A CLEAR CONSISTENT STANDARD.

FAMILIES THAT YOU'RE HELPING HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO ACTUALLY AFFORD THIS.

YOU'RE WARM WARMACK WORKING WITH FOLKS THAT THAT A.L.I.C.E.

PAM POPULATION OR LESS POPULATION OR LESS.

>> EVEN LESSER INTERESTING.

LOVE THE CONVERSATION, THAT'S HAPPENING HERE BECAUSE, WITH OUR WORK ON HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS, CRITICAL TO BRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE LOAN GUARANTEE FROM DEPARTMENT OF 'AWAHINE HOMELAND.

ALLOWS TO ACCESS CAPITAL TALKING ABOUT, WE CAN BRING IT MORE AFFORDABLE TO THE FAMILY.

SO WHEN YOU'RE SEEING THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, 6% INTEREST OR HIGHER, MORTGAGE, WE'RE ABLE TO WITH A GUARANTEE FROM DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS GET BELOW 5%.

WHAT HAS THIS DONE?

PARTNERING WITH SMALL BUSINESS BUILDER BEING NONPROFIT MAKING SURE WE'RE LIMITING AMOUNT OF PROFIT THROUGH THE PROCESS HAVING AFFORDABLE MORTGAGE, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS SEEN A FAMILY ON KAUAIER ARE, GO FROM PAYING $3,200 A MONTH, ON A RENTAL, TO OWNING HOME FOR $300,000.

THREE BEDROOM, PAYING $100 A MONTH.

THAT IS AFFORDABLE.

$1,100.

60% AREA MEDIUM INCOME OR BELOW.

VERY LOW INCOME.

ACCORDING TO ARE, FEDERAL STANDARDS.

SO AGAIN, I THINK HAVING THAT PROCESS WHERE YOU HAVE THE NONPROFIT THAT IS OVERSEEN AND CONTROLLING.

YOU HAVE DEPARTMENT OF BUY-IN HOME LAMEDS STATE LOAN GUARANTEE.

STATE HOMELAND IT'S TRACTING PRIVATE CAPITOL BRING TO KEEPER FOR THE FAMILY.

DELIVER AFFORDABILITY.

THAT'S AFFORDABLE.

NOT A PRICE POINT.

LIKE PETER WAS TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT IS AFFORDABLE FOR YOU AND AT FAMILY INTO BRINGING IN ANOTHER ONE.

>> AGAIN, JUST AS I DID TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

VERY PASSIONATE.

WE DON'T DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN HAWAII.

GOVERNMENT SELLS YOU HOMES THAT ARE CHEAPER THAN MARKET.

THEY SAY THEY'RE AFFORDABLE.

THEY'RE NOT.

AFFORDABLE IS HOUSE YOU CAN AFFORD.

7, 8 UND $800,000 IS NOT AFFORDE RENTAL.

PRICE IS TIED WAILINGSMENT WAGES TELL US MOST EXPENSIVE AVERAGE HOME SHOULD BE $500,000.

GOVERNMENT TRYING TO SELL YOU 7 OR $800,000 FOOCIALG AFFORDABLE UNITS SHIBAI.

SHOULD BE $500,000.

DEFINITION LOCAL MARKET IS PRICE TIED TO WAGES IN THE COMMUNITY.

OUR HOUSES SELL FOR A MILLION.

A MILLION TWO.

OUR WAGES SAY $500,000 FOR 3 BEDROOM HOUSE.

125 HOUSE DISTRICT FOR ONE$125,.

GO TO THE OUR WAIMANALOS THEY'RE SERIOUS.

CAN HE WAGES THEY'RE SERIOUS.

THEY CAN IT.

DOES NOT HAVE WILL.

>> ABANDONING US.

FOOLING US SELLING US BAY LOBALONEY CANNOT BELIEVE THIS.

>> IPHONE I'M GOING TO RIF OFF THIS AND TALK ABOUT WAGES.

BECAUSE WHILE THE CALCULATION THAT IS BEING MADE FOR AFFORDABLE, IS BASED ON LIKE MAKE IT ON WAGES, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT ECOSYSTEM OF WAGES?

WHAT THAT ECOSYSTEM OF AVAILABLE JOBS?

WHAT IS HAWAII, POPULATION ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN TERMS OF PATHWAYS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THEMSELVES.

AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THROUGH THEIR ENTIRE LIFE CYCLE FROM I'M 16.

I CAN START WORKING TILL I'M 86.

AND MY RETIREMENT DAYS AN MY WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM?

THERE ARE WAGE BANDS AND I THINK PEOPLE, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THAT THEY HAVE A VOCATION AN NEVER REALLY TAUGHT HERE'S YOUR WAGE BAND.

AND YOU CAN'T REALLY GO ABOVE IT.

AND YOU PROBABLY WON'T GO BELOW IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SKILL LEVEL THAT IS AT THE BASELINE.

BUT THERE'S A WAGE BAND.

IF THAT WAGE BAND FOLLOWS YOU ENTIRE LIFE BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY SHARED WITH YOU WHAT A PATHWAY WOULD BE, FOR AFFORDABILITY, AT EVERY STAGE OF YOUR LIFE, I THINK YOU KNOW, WORK AROUND THAT SPACE.

WORK AROUND.

>> EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING GOT TO TIE IT TO WHAT YOUR PAYCHECK IS.

DEAL WITH THE WAGE BAND.

>>Yunji: HANG ON.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THE WHOLE CONVERSATION.

PAUL PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> BY NO MEANS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING EXPERT.

BUT ONE THING I STRONGLY FEEL IS THAT PART OF OUR PROBLEM HERE IN HAWAII, MAYBE IT'S LIKE THE METALEVEL PROBLEM ALMOST.

IS THAT, HOUSING MARKET OR LARGE PARTS OF IT IS COMPLETELY DECOUPLED FROM THE REALITY OF WAGES IN THE REST OF REAL ECONOMY HERE.

WHY?

BECAUSE WE HAVE A FINITE SUPPLY OF HOUSING.

BUT WE HAVE ALMOST INFINITE DEMANDS BECAUSE WE'RE PART OF GLOBAL ECONOMY AND PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER WORLD WOULD THINK, WOW, PARADISE.

I WANT TO LIVE T THERE.

LIVE THE LIFE, LIVE THE DREAM HAVE A LOT OF DISPOSAL INCOME.

MANY OF THEM.

SO THEY CAN JUST COME IN HERE, OUTBID LOCAL BUYERS, BUY UPTONS PROPERTY.

SOME OF THEM THEM HAVE RID.

SOME OF THEM BIG COMPANIES CORPORATIONS.

A LOT OF OUR PROBLEM I FEEL.

>>Yunji: BUILDING ON THAT BOB FROM KANE LOVE FOR YOU TO RESPOND TO THIS.

ASKS BAY YOU ARE EXPRESSING WHY IS IT MORE MAINLAND PEOPLE AND FOREIGNERS MOVE ATOLL HAWAII AND CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, YET LOCAL PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE CANNOT SURVIVE?

WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT.

>> >> I THINK HISTORY OF HAWAII ROOTED NO EXPLOITATION.

EXPLOITATION AND UNDER DEVELOPMENT MUCH CONSISTENTLY HAWAII HAS, HAD MORE TAKING FROM IT THAN GIVEN BACK.

DEFINITION OF AINA, WHICH FEEDS AINA MEANS WE MUST HAVE A RECIPROCAL RELATIONSHIP WITH LAND TO ENSURE THAT'S GENERATING FOOD FOR US.

WE ARE GIVING BACK TO IT.

KIND OF RIF OFF WHAT JEFF WAS SAW, SAYING HAWAIIAN HOMELANDS WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR BENEFICIARIES DON'T QUALIFY FIRE MORTGAGE.

>> THAT HAVE BEEN THE WAITING LIST FOR DECADES?

GREATS WORK HAPPENING IN WAIANAE RIGHT NOW OF BENEFICIARIES NOT BEEN PROVED FOR MORTGAGES NOW BEGUN TO GO RECLAIM LAND.

FIND HOME LANDS, RECLAIM, FREEDOM CROWN LANDS MUCH AND PUTTING FLAG DOWN THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, RISING HOUSES PROBLEM IS NATIVE HAWAIIAN PROBLEM CANNOT LOOK AWAY FROM THAT.

GENEOLOGY CRITICAL A HERE.

BUMPY KANAHALE.

LAND OCCUPATION 1993 AND WAIMANALO CAME OUT OF RISING HOUSELESSNESS WITHIN THOSE COMIEWCHT COMMUNITY.

15-ACRER OCCUPATION.

NATIVE HAWAIIANS UNDERSTOOD RIGHT S SELF-DETERMINATION WILLING TO GET ARRESTED.

FLOW OF CAPITAL SEA LIFE PARK, HAWAIIAN LANDS BACK OF VALLEY.

STAVE SSELF-SUSTAINING COMMUNIT.

PRODUCING KALO DISABILITIES INTEREST TO THE LOCAL DENTIST TRIBUTE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND LOCAL FOOD SYSTEM.

DISTRIBUTE TO.

COST OILY SOMETHING NOTHING, PEOPLE COMING TO TO TAKE BACK WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS.

CAN SINGLY REDUCE THE COST, OF FOOD.

COST OF LIVING.

>>Yunji: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

JASON HAS A COMMENT HERE.

LOVE YOUR THOUGHTS.

WE ARE FARMER AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FOOD WASTE.

NCONTROL ORGANILING OUR FOOD WE NO ONE SHOULD BE HUNGRY HERE.

CONTROL WHAT WE ARE WASTING.

STATES NEED MORE ACCOUNTABLE.

WHAT ARE THOUGHTS OF FOOD WASTE, WE LOSE SO MUCH FOOD IN HAWAII.

CONSISTENT PROBLEM.

>> BIG ISSUE ONE THAT LEGISLATURE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY DO TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK ON GLEANING.

I'M SURE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE A LITTLE ABOUT THAT TOO.

I KNOW THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF WORK AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

COUNTY WEST VIRGINCOUNCIL WE'VED ACCESS COORDINATORS.

GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

ON LOOKING FORWARD, ACTUALLY LISTEN FROM OUR LOCAL COMMUNITYMENT I THINK.

IT'S VERY HARD-GOING I WORK IN POLICY AND ADVOCACY.

AND GOING TO THE STATE, LEGISLATURE, ASKING FOUR LEDGE HEY, CAN YOU GIVE US MORE MONEY FOR THESE ISSUES?

BRING UP, FOOD WASTE.

I THINK THAT IS HUGE ISSUE WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING.

OFTENTIMES, WE HAVE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WORKING TO DO THE WORK THAT THE STATE SHOULD BE DOING.

OR THAT OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING.

I THINK PETER WAS TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE.

BUT SOMETIMES WE FORGET THE GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING US I THINK HAWAII, WE HAVE A LOT OF APATHY AN THERE IS NOT A LOT OF TRUST IN OUR GOVERNMENT.

RIGHTFULLY SO.

AND SO WE TRY TO ASK FOR THESE THINGS.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY NOT FUND.

KIND GOES BACK TO AFFORDABILITY TOO.

ASKING FOR PROGRAMS IS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS DEFAULT FROM OUR GOVERNMENT.

THEY SHOULD BE SERVING COMMUNITY, THEY SHOULD BE SERVI SERVE-SERVG US.

COMES TO FOOD WEAPON AND WAY LARGER TO FOOD WASTE.

FOOD WASTE.

COMAS BACK TO FOOD SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

>>Yunji: FAMILIES ARE STRUGGLING TO AFFORD, GROCERIES, WHAT KIND OF CHANGES DO YOU THINK, COMMUNITY GRIFFIN DRIVEN OR LARGER SCALE, CAN MAKE A MEANINGFUL DINNERS IN THE SHORT TERM?

COMMUNITY DRIVEN.

>> FOUR US FOOD HUB ACCEPTS SNAP BUCKS AN WIC.

AND WEB NOW TAKEN THAT STOREFRONT TAB ACCEPTED FARMER'S MARK EIGHT CROSS KAUAI AND HOPING TO EXPAND.

SEEN MORE ACCEPTANCE ACCEPTED ACROSS DIFFERENT PLACE IT WANT TO CIRCLE BACK.

TALKED ABOUT, WASTE.

WANTED TO TOUCH ON RESOURCES THAT ARE NOT BEING TAPPED INTO.

WE TALK ABOUT FARMING.

I ALSO WANT TO PERR BRING UP OUR RANCHER AND CAT L MEN.

KAUAI, WAI ARB AVAIL.

CATTLEMEN.

WEST SIDE OF KAUAI.

WAIAWA AVAILABILITY.

WILDWILDCAT CATTLE RESOURCE USED DIRECTLY FOR THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE RANCHERS, WHO ARE WILLING TO USE THAT TO DIRECTLY FEED THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WHAT THEY WOULD NEED IS ACCESS TO SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

OR MOBILE SLOT SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

KAUAI VERY LIMITED.

ALSO COST TO OPERATE OR EVEN BRING IT'S YOUR CATTLE THERE TO BE PRO SEASED.

CAN BE QUITE PROCESSED QUITE PRICEY.

NOT WASTE JUST ANOTHER RESOURCE CAN BE TAPPED INTO.

THAT IS WHERE THE SUPPORT OF OUR NONPROFITS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN COME TOGETHER TO WORK ON A SOLUTION FOR OUR RAN TCHER AN CATTLE RANCHERS AN CATTLE MEN TO BE FULL CIRCLE FEED THE CHOON COMMUNITY.

>>Yunji: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CURIOUS, YOU TALKED TO PEOPLE ON FRONT LINES EVERY DAY AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY RECENTLY TO SPEAK TO AMI FROM THE FOOD BANK.

30% OF HAWAII, THIRD OF HAWAII IS FOOD INSECURE.

THEY DON'T HAVE CONSISTENT TO FRESH AT HEALTHY FOOD.

STUNNING NUMBER.

WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT THIRD OF OUR COMMUNITY.

EMAIL WE DEFINITELY KNOW.

PEOPLE WE DEFINITELY KNOW.

PEOPLE ARE CALLING YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AMY SHARED RESOURCES OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE FEEL LIKE MAYBE EMBARRASSED OR THEY DON'T REALLY REALIZE THAT IS OUT THERE.

CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BRIDGING THAT GAP AND DISCONNECT BETWEEN PEOPLE IN NEED AND THE RESOURCES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE?

>> SO I DEFINITELY FEEL THERE ARE MOMENTS WHERE YOU FEEL SHAMED I DON'T WANT TO REACH OUT.

NOT IF IT'S NOT JUST FOOD, OTHER THINGS LIKE FEEL INSECURE.

DOESN'T HURT TO HELP.

THAT'S WHAT 2 AND 1 IS THERE.

WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.

TO HELP YOU.

AND IT'S AT YOUR OWN TIME.

I DON'T WANT TO PRESSURE YOUR PUSHY.

CALLER 211 NOW.

OPEN EVERY DAY 7:00 A.M.

TO 10:00 P.M.

INCLUDING MICHAEL HODSON WANT TO BE -- HOLIDAYS CATCH YOU BEFORE YOU GO TO WORK, AFTER OR IN BETWEEN.

DO YOU RECOGNIDURING YOUR BREAKH MUCH FEEL LIKE, YOU HAVE NO O BUDGET, LITTLE TO NO BUDGET OR PAY NOT HAVE SNAP, FOR THE MONTH, CALL 211.

AND WE WILL CONNECT YOU TO FOOD PAN TPANTRIES.NORMALLY OPEN IN MORNG VARIES UNDERSTOOD TO ISLAND.

LOOK AT WEBSITES OF THE FOOD PANTRIES OR FOOD BANKS.

LOCAL COUNTY FOOD BANKS JUST TO MAKE SURE I GIVE THEM THE MOST UP TO DATE AND AVAILABLE INFO.

OF THE CLOSEST.

AGAIN, I JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CALL 211 WHEN YOU ARE FEELING VULNERABLE AND WE ARE HERE TO TALK TO YOU AND GET YOU THE RESOURCES TO MEET YOUR NEEDS.

AND UNMET NEEDS IF WE GO FURTHER INTO THE CALL CAN I TALK A LITTLE BIT BRIDGING THAT GAP.

>> THERE'S SO MUCH STIGMA.

ONE IN THREE HAWAII RESIDENTS ARE FOOD INSECURE.

THAT IS HUGE AMOUNT.

AN IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE FOOD BANK HAS REPORTED ON TWICE NOW.

AND NUMBER ONLY GOTTEN HIGHER IN THE PAST 2 YEARS.

SO THAT WAS BEFORE FEDERAL SHUTDOWN O ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT CHANGES TO OUR FEDERAL PROGRAM.

RES.

BRIDGING GAP BETWEEN, PEOPLE WHO DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT, OR SAFE, TO ACCESSING FOOD, SOMETHING THAT IS SORE IMPORTANT.

AND SO IMPORTANT.

ACCESS TO FOOD.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS EXTREMELY AT RISK WITH THE STATE OF O GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW.

SO PEOPLE LIKE OUR 211 HOTLINE, PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH SONAM RESUPERVISOR INS, PEOPLE RESIM YENTS WORK AT THE FOOD BANK.

CUT AROUND OVER $2 MILLION.

RECIPIENTS BECAUSE OF, FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION.

SNAP IS EXA EXTREMELY AT RISK RIGHT NOW.

ALL REQUIREMENTS ARE CHANGING.

POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE A COST SHARE.

ON AU STATE.

TIME WHERE IT'S SO IMPORTANT, TO WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND FUND THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY BRIDGING THAT GAP.

BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE FIGURED OUT ITSELF.

IF THERE'S A STIGMA, WE HAVE TO CREATE ACCESS AND CREATE SPACE SO THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT.

THERE ARE AMAZING PEOPLE DOING THAT WORK HERE.

BUT ALL OF THEIR FUNDING IS AT RISK.

>>Yunji: LET'S BRING IN DISELEAST.

INCOME PROFESSIONALS THIRD LOWER THANE COMES ON MAINLAND.

CHANGE THE MIND SET OF BOY EMPLOYERS, RAISIN COME TO NORMAL LEVELS.

HAWAII EMPLOYERS.

SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.

ON THIS.

TAX BASE WILL IMPROVE.

RESIDENT AFFORD TO STAYED AFFORD BOTH FOOD AND HOUSING.

YOU MENTIONED WORKING SINCE YOU WERE 15-AND-A-HALF.

WHAT IS THE LANDSCAPE OUT THERE FOR SOMEONE LOOKING FOR WORK AND PAY THAT IS AVAILABLE IS THIS RCHLTSD I THINK RIGHT NOW, WITH MINIMUM WAGE IN HAWAII, DOES INCREASE EVERY COUPLE OF YEAR, BUT I STILL FEEL LIKE MINIMUM WAGE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH.

ESPECIALLY FOR STUDENTS ANYONE ELSE LOOKING TO ENTER THE WORKFORCE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIFE.

I FEEL AS THOUGH I HEAR THIS A LOT.

AMONGST STUDENTS AT U.H.

MANOA AND MY FRIENDS.

MY PEERS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE MY AGE FEEL AS THOUGH NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY'RE WORKING, THE INCOME COMING IN DOESN'T MATCH.

WITH THE EXPENSES THAT THEY'RE THEN PUTTING OUT.

IT'S EVEN HARD BASE LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT JOB MARKET RIGHT NOW IS REALLY HARD EVEN WITH BACHELOR'S DEGREE.

I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WOULD HAVE ALREADY GRADUATED AND THEY HAVE BEEN GRADUATED FOR WELL OVER AWE COUPLE YEARS AND EVEN FOR THEM REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO EVEN FIND A JOB RIGHT NOW IN THE JOB MARKET.

NOT ONLY IS ISSUE OF WHAT IS MINIMUM WAGE IN HAWAII, AND DOES THAT LEVEL OUT TO HOW MUCH WE'RE ASK ACTUALLY SPENDING AND PI PUTTING OUT, I ARE THERE AVAILABLE JOBS FOR OUR STUDENT?

AVAILABLE JOBS FOR PEOPLE BASICALLY EXPERTS IN FIELD.

LONG TIME AG, WE HAD SO MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, AS LONG AS YOU GET A BACHELORS DEGREE ORMMASTERS DEGREE.

STABLE ORGANIZATION AT ACCREDITED IT THE UNIVERSITY YOU'RE SET FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE OF THE MANTRA A LOT OF STUDENTS GROW UP BELIEVING IN.

IT'S KIND OF THING WHERE EVERYONE SAYING AS LONG AS YOU EDUCATION YOU SHOULD BE SET.

BUT NOW, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF STUDENTS FEEL AS THOUGH I GOT MY PATCH LOSERS DEGREE.

GOT MY BACHELORS DEGREE.

MASTER IT'S PH.D AND STILL FEEL LIKE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH JOBS OBJECT T THE ON THE MARKET GET A JOB IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

NOT ENOUGH TO FULFILL MY BASIC NECESSITIES SO THERE'S ALSO THAT DEMAND FOR JOBS AND ALSO, THAT IDEA THAT ONCE YOU GET A JOB, YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO FULFILL YOUR BASIC NECESSITIES.

>>Yunji: ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HEAR FROM SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WHO MANY OF WOMAN REALLY RACISTED INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE RESEUTSED INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE.

I TRYING RUN A BUSINESS, RESTAURANT CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY HIGHER WAGE AN HEALTH CARE REQUIRED AND ALL BENEFITS HOW DO WE RECONCILE THAT?

WANT FOLKS TO GET A JOB AFFORD TOEVENTAND GO PETER AND BUY A HE OR FARM.

HUGE GAP THERE.

>> SAY THAT WHEN I STARTED, NOHO HOME.

IT REALLY WAS NOT ONLY, A BUSINESS BUT IT WAS OPPORTUNITY TO TEST ALL THE THINGS THAT I HAD IN MY LIFE AND MY CAREER.

TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND INTERESTING WORK, AND CREATING DESIGN OUTSIDE OFFER DESIGN MEANINGFUL AND EXPORTING AND BRIDGING OUT OF HAWAII.

PROVIDING THINGS THAT WERE MEANINGFUL ALL THE THINGS.

AND SO IN DOING THAT, WE ACTUALLY WHEN HE STARTED OUR MINIMUM WAGE, WAS $18.

BEFORE IT EVER HAS BEEN $18.

SO WEB ALWAYS PAID $18 OR MORE.

AND I JUST SHARE THAT BECAUSE, I THINK EVERY EMPLOYER ACTUALLY WANTS TO DO RIGHT BY THEIR EMPLOYEES.

YOU THINK IT'S A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION AT THE END OF THE DAY OF HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS TO ACTUALLY DO BUSINESS IN HAWAII.

AND I WON'T BLAME IT ALL ON THE GOVERNMENT.

I WILL SAY THAT OUR LOGISTICS ARE SHEAR LOGISTICS OF BEING IN THE CENTER OF THE PACIFIC, MOST ISOLATED LAND MASS, COMES WITH CHALLENGES THAT MANY, MANY OTHER PLACES DON'T HAVE.

AND I THINK AGAIN, AS A ECOSYSTEM, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS.

WE NEED TO BE AT THIS TABLE.

I WOULD LOVE IF WE HAD THE UNIONS HERE.

LONGSHOREMEN HERE AT THE TABLE.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE CREATE.

GET OVER THE BOUNDARIES THAT ARE PHYSICAL BOUNDARIES, LOGISTICAL BOUNDARIES, BYE NOW DRIES OF--BOUNDARIES OF FOOD AND THEN HOW DO WE AS A POLITICAL BODY, THEN SUPPORT THAT SYSTEM?

>> ON WAIRNLGS WILL NEVER SOLVE OUR PROBLEM.

WAKE WAGES CHARGE WAGES TO MATCH OUR PA PRICE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE A BITS.

WE HAVE UNDERSTAND, BITS ARE FLEEING.

BUSINESSES YOU TALK ABOUT 222,000 PEOPLE RELIEF NO-GO ONE YEAR.

22,000 PEOPLE.

THAT'S ONE YEARMENT HUNDREDS OF HOUSE LEFT.

RIGHT NOW IT YOUR C ACCOUNTANT HAD A. WOULD DONE IN THE PHILIPPINES.

ARCHITECT HAS WORK DONE IN AFGHANISTAN ENGINEER HAS IT DONE IN INDIA.

ALL OF THESE JOBS HAVE FLED AND WE DON'T KNOW IT.

MY ACCOUNT AN USED TO HAVE A WHOLE FLOOR.

HE ONLY NEEDS HALF A FLOOR NOW BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BEING SHIPPED OUT.

BEING SHIPPED OUT BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER.

IT'S MORE EFFICIENT.

QUALITY IS THERE.

THEY MAY BE IN THE FILE DAVID PENN OR AFTER BEGAN STAN, PROBABLY E'O CHANGED IT SUCK BU.S.S.

CBERKELEY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR I STUDENT JUST ENTERING THE JOB FORCE?

WHAT CAN SOMEONE LIKE HER FEEL.

>> THAT'S THE POINT LOOK AT AN JOB I'M GOING TO ACCOUNTANT, ACIALGHT ENGINEER.

DRAFTS MEN.

ARCHITECT.

WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

, THEY MAY NOT NUMBER HAWAII I THINK MORE.

MAY BE OUTSIDE OF HAWAII.

PROFESSIONAL P FROGS YOU'RE GOING AFTER.

PROFESSION YOU'RE GOING AFTER.

ONE THING EMI HART SORENSON MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS BUY REAL ESTATE.

WITNESS BUY A PROPER.

LOCK IN MONTHLY PROPERTY.

INCOMES GO UP.

COST OF LIVING STAYS CONSTANT.

OWNERSHIP IS WHAT WE HAVE TO CCONCENTRATE SOLVE ALMOST EVERY PROBLEM WE HAVE.

YOU GO BACK TO THE OF SIXTIES BY A HOUSE FOR $250 A HOUSE.

TEN YEARS FAMILY EARNING PROBABLY 2,000.

INCOME WENT UP TEN TIMES.

BUT MONTHLY PAYMENTS STAYED SAME.

TODAY THEY'RE EARNING $100,000.

$150,000.

HOUSE IS PAID FOR.

HALF OF HAWAII IS RICH.

THEY OWN.

HALF OF HAWAII IS POOR.

THEY RENT MUCH THE WE HAVE TO DO AWAY WITH RENTALS.

RENTALS ALL RENTAL BUILDINGS SHOULD BE TENANT OWNED.

THEY LOCK IN A RENT.

STAYS RENT FOREVER.

THEY'RE PAY RAISESES ARE NOW THEIRS.

FIVE TO TEN YEARS, OUR PAY RAISES WILL CATCH UP.

AND OUR PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE A DESCENT LIFE.

AFTER THAT, JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER.

DECENT LIFE.

ALL TIED TO HOUSING.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST COST OF LIVING WE HAVE.

WE CAN SOLVE HOUSING CRISIS.

THE EASY THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE TO SOLVE.

BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT MONTHLY PAYMENT.

WE COULD DO IT.

>>Yunji: PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> REPRESENTATIVE AND COMMUNITY MEMBER OF LOCAL 5 HOSPITALITY Y UNION CAN'T FULLY EXPLOITATION OF LABOR HAPPENS ON OUR SHORES.

SHERATON WAIKIKI MOST PROPERTIABLE PROPERTY FOR SHERATON IT GLOBALLY.

CEO WALKING WE MORE THAN $20 MILLION IN POCKETS.

LABOR EXPLOIT I EXPLOITING HAVE TO WORK MORE THAN ONE JOB.

ONE JOB SHOULD BE ENOUGH.

YOU SHALL TALKING ABOUT HOTELS, ISEN CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH AT THE TOP.

LOCAL THOSE HOTELS ACROSS WAIKIKI, CAN DRASTICALLY INCREASE WAIL OF EVERY ONE OF THOSE WORK.

SEEING BUSINESSES LEAVE AND MAJORITY NATIVE HAWAIIANS LEFT THEIR SHORES CRITICAL THIS FOLK ON INCREASING FOCUSING INCREASE RIGHT A WAGES FOR OUR, WORKERS.

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR LOCAL SHOPS AND MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS.

BUT SUPPORTING LOCAL UNITED UNIONSAND STRUGGLES ARE CRITICA.

HONOLULU HARBOR WHOINGD CROWN LAND.

SEEN HAWAII ISLAND U WHOINGD.

EFFORTS AOTEAROA TRIBES ABLE TO NORTHBOUND OWNERSHIP PORTS BACK.

THESE ARE THE SORTS OF ETHICS WE NEED TO THINKING TALK ABOUT LOCAL OWNERSHIP.

NFORTS BACK FOOD LOCAL COMMUNITY HANDS.

MANUFACTURES.

TRIGGEREL DOWN TO ECOSYSTEM.

>>Yunji: WHOLE SHOW ON MACRON LAND CEDED LANDS WHAT GOING ON THERE.

CROWN LAND P KAKOU FOR THE FUTURE.

ON THAT SAME FRONT, I WOULD LOVE FOR TAKAI THIRTY METER THIS TABLETHIS.

WORK CLOSE BY DHH LOT OF RAYA OFRECENT YENTS.

OHA FINANCIAL AID.

GORPGOVERNOR AND LEGISLATION GIE CEDED LAND.

GRANTED LEASE YOU HELP THEM FULFILL THAT ARE WE DOING ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO FINALLY DO GET OFF THE LIST, ACTUALLY GET INTO A HOME?

YOU THINK IF WE LOOK AT WHERE R DOLLARS ARE BEING S PLACED ING DOLLARS IN TERMS OF EITHER AT PRIVATE SIDE OR PUBLIC SIDE, WE CAN MAKE INVESTMENTS IN FUNDS OR IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, NONPROFITS, THAT CAN MANAGE A POOL OF FUNDS.

MIX BETWEEN TBRA GRAND AN DEBT.

RENT DOWN.

MONTHLY PAYMENT AFFORDABLE FOR THE FAMILI FAMILIAR FAMILY.

WAS OFFICE HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS DO OR STATE AGENCY OR PRIVATE COMPANY MAKE AN A INVESTMENT IN AFFORDABILITY.

NONPROFITS, HOLD KEY A LOT OF TIMES.

TO BRINGING AFFORDABILITY TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO IF B WE'RE INVESTING OUTSIDE OF HAWAII, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT HOW WITH ARE WE INVESTING LOCALLY IN PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES AND CDFI, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, THAT ARE FOCUSED ON INVEST VESTING LOCAL A COMMUNITY.

INVESTING IN THE HAWAIIAN DMCOMMUNITY NOT TABLE PROFIT OFF OF OUR SHORES.

TAKE PROFIT.

KEEP IT HERE IF WITH DO THAT, HAVE MORE RESOURCE R SOURCE ER OAHU TO WORK WITH LOCAL WORK RESOURCE HERE TO WORK WITH LOCALLY.

AS OF MAGS MAXIMIZING PRO MAXIG IMPACT KEEPS FAMILY HERE OF THE.

>>Yunji: REACTING TO HAD A YOU HAD SHARED ABOUT P FARMING AND GARDENING AROUND HOME.

COMMENT IS THAT, IT'S NOT EASY TO GO HOME AND DO THAT WHEN YOU WORK 2 O 3 YEARS.

YEARS BE SUSTAINABLE.

ONLY GROW SO MUCH.

PERSON IS HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE DOING THESE SMALL GARDENS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?

>> WE, THINK IT IS POSSIBLE.

BECAUSE DEPENDS WHAT GROWING AND HOW YOU'RE GROWING IT.

FOR EXAMPLE AMONG MANY PLANS AND THINGS WE'RE PROMOTING, PROMOTING PLANTS LIKE ALLOW PELE OR TONGAN S SPINACH ONE EXAMPLE.

PERENNIAL RESILIENCY HUB THAT IS, PRETTY HARD TO KILL.

SHRUB.

REQUIRES VERY LITTLE MAINTENANCE.

CAN BE EUROPEAN UNIONED PRETTY AGGRESSIVELY.

PRUNED HIGHLY NUTRITIOUS.

THROW IT IN YOUR CURRY AND/OR IN YOUR INSTANT POT, AROUND YOU HAVE A NICE ME MEAL PART OF N NICE MEAL.

PROMOTE MEETING AGRIFORESTRY REQUIRE A LOT LESS MAINTENANCE COMPARED TO AT LOT OF STYLES OF GROWING.

SO I THINK THAT IT IS POSSIBLE.

I'M NOT SAYING, I DON'T NEED TO DOWN PLAY THIS.

BECAUSE I'M NOT SAWING IT'S EASY EVERYONE IS BUSY.

BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.

AND I'M ALSO NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS GOING TO, PANACEA GOING TO SOLVE ALL OFFER PROBLEM.

IT IS POSSIBLE, THE MORE PEOPLE DOING THIS, BOTH AT HOME AN IN COMMUNITY GARDENS, PLACE OF WORSHIP, SCHOOLS, ET CETERA, THE MORE PEOPLE GROWING THINGS, WE HAVE SO MUCH LAND HERE.

NOT ACTUALLY BEING USED.

EVEN IN URBAN HONOLULU.

IT'S DECENT LAND COULD BE USED.

MORE PEOPLE DOING THAT, WE CAN HELP TO IMPROVE OUR SITUATION IN TERMS OF FOOD SECURITY.

AND PART OF THAT IS NOT JUST CALORIES IN YOUR BELLY.

IT'S ALSO QUALITY OF THE FOOD.

BECAUSE IT'S FRESH.

HEALTHY, FOOD.

WHICH IS A LOT BETTER THAN A LOT OF THINGS WITH YOU CAN GET BEEN IN THE FOOD SUPPLY CHAIN FOR MAYBE A WEEK.

SO THERE ARE MANY OTHER BENEFITS THAN PURELY JUST AMOUNT OF CAL RUSS YOU'RE GETTING.

>>Yunji: CALORIES YOU'RE GETTING.

>>Yunji: WANT YOU TO BUILD ON THAT.

WHAT KIND OF MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE DO YOU THINK IT COULD MAKE IF BECAUSE WE WANT TO FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS AS WELL.

TONIGHT.

LAID OUT A LOT PROBLEMS INDEED.

BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO, WHAT KIND OF AGENCY WE ACTUALLY HAVE WHICH IS WHAT PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT.

WE ARE SOME STEPS YOU THINK WE CAN TAKE BE MORE SUSTAINABLE ON OUR OWN HAVE UP LIFT OUR OWN SITUATIONS AS INDIVIDUALS?

>> I MEAN, YOU THINK PAUL ANSWERED THAT PRETTY WELL IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY YOUR OWN GARDEN FOCUSING ON WHAT YOU CAN DO THERE.

MY FAMILY LOT OF IT'S TO GARDEN.

AND WESLEY LO TO GARDEN.

THAT LOVES TO GARDEN.

BIG THING FOR US FOR SURE I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT.

DOES OF YOU THINK POINT THAT THAT COMMENTER WAS MAKING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE WORKING SO MANY JOBS THAT T DON'T HAVE THE TIME TOO TO DO.

POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO HELP OUR FAMILIES IN NEED.

SO IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS, I DO WORK ON POLICY, SO WE DO HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THE ONES THAT I CAN THINK OF RIGHT NOW IS FARM TO FAMILIES.

STATISTICS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER FROM AMY AT HAWAII FOOD BANK.

THEY'RE WORK ON LEGISLATION TO GET LOCAL PRODUCE AT THE FOOD BANK.

SO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED, PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE TIME OR ENERGY OR EVEN THE HOUSING.

TO GO HE ON THEIR OWN.

CAN ACTUALLY GET LOCAL PRODUCE.

BECAUSE BUT THINK ABOUT VOLUNTEERING FOOD BANK, THINKING CANNED FOOD.

AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT IS.

E'O CANNED FOOD.

LUG UNCLELY FOOD, LEFT OVER FOOD.

UGLY FOOD.

THIS LEGISLATION FARM TO FAMILIES ACTUALLY GETTING LOCAL, FARMERS LOCAL PRODUCERS TO WORK WITH THE FOOD U FOOD BANK SO THAT HE CAN ACTUALLY BUY THAT PRODUCE AND GIVE IT OUT TO PEOPLE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS HUGE.

SOMETHING THAT FOOD BANK ARE WORKING ON NOW.

IT'S VERY BIG AND A LOT OF OUR ISLANDS, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN FUND THEMSELVES.

ALL TIME.

FOOD BANKS AND A LOT OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS DEPEND ON GRANTS LIKE MALIA WAS SAYING.

THEY DEPEND ON PHILANTHROPY DONATIONS.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN INVEST IT.

WE'RE CONSTANTLY ASKING FOR.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT HUGE COST.

IF WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT KEEPING OUR FOOD AND KEEPING OUR MONEY IN OUR LOCAL A ECONOMY.

LOCAL AGRICULTURE ECONOMY.

>>Yunji: W I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY GO AROUND THE ROOM BRIEFLY AN JUST HEAR FROM EACH OF YOU.

ONE SORT OF YOU THINK TANKABLE OR TANGIBLE ACHIEVABLE SOLUTION THAT WE COULD DO AS INDIVIDUALS OR AS COMMUNITY THAT WOULD REALLY HELP WITH THIS AFFORDABILITY ISSUE.

LET'S START WITH YOU.

>> I ALSO UAT TO ECHO SINCE WE WERE GOING OFF OF POLICY, I AM ACTUALLY CHAIR OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

KALIHI VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

I THINK IT'S ONLY FOR OAHU BUT I'M HOPING OTHER ISLANDS WILL HAVE ORGANIZATION NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD AS WELL.

WE DO AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS IS I'M THE CHAIR SO I MAKE THE AGENDA FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY, USUALLY ALL NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS THAT COME AND HE THEN YOUR REPLREPLENISH REPRESENTATIVE IT.

SENATOR, HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES, MAYOR REPLENISHES, GOVERNOR REPRESENTATIVE, THEY ALL COME TO THE TABLE AND IT'S YOUR COMMUNITY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD THAT IS EVERY ONCE A MONTH.

OURS IS LIKE THE SECOND WEDNESDAY.

OF MONTH.

ALWAYS WATCH ON YOUTUBE TOO.

REPLAYS.

WE COME TO TABLE.

TALKING TO.

WE BRING UP CONCERNS.

UPDATES WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.

JUST A NICE WAY TO REALLY BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO IS STILL ONGOING.

WHAT'S NEW.

WHAT'S NEW CONCERN?

THAT'S AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE'RE DIRECTLY TALK TO EITHER REPLREPRESENTATIVE IT'S N THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTING THEM AT THE ABLE.

BRING IT BACK TO THEM.

>>Yunji: CIVIC PARTICIPATION.

>> AGAIN YOU KNOW I LOOK AT THE WORLD VERY DIFFERENTLY.

ALL OF THE NONPROFITS SUPER IMPORTANT.

THEY'RE THE BRAVE SOULS GO OUT AND SOLVE THE IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS.

PROVIDE THE FOOD.

BUT THEY'RE PROVIDING NOT THE SOLUTION.

THE SOLUTION IS ONE STEP DOWNTOWN HONOLULU.

THAT IS HOW DO WE MAKE FOOD AFFORDABLE SO WE CAN PUT THIS NONPROFIT OUT OF BUSINESS?

AND PUT THEM INTO SOME OTHER ACTIVITY TO HELP?

THIS LEVEL DOWN HERE IS WHERE WE NEED TO SOLUTIONS.

AND THAT IS WHERE OUR GOVERNMENT FAILS US.

THEY DO EYE GOOD JOB SUPPORTING NONPROFITS DO THIS, GIVE YOU GRANT.

NO.

I WANT SOLUTIONS.

THE SOLUTION HAS TO START, WITH OWNERSHIP.

WE HAVE TON OWN OUR COMPANIES KP OUR WELTED IN THE STATE.

CAN'T SHAPE OUT MONEY MAINLAND COMPANIES.

HOTEL MAIN OWNED.

INDUSTRIAL PARKS ARE MAINLAND OWNED.

OFFICERS BUILDINGS MAINLAND OWNED.

OUR ECONOMY HAS BEEN GUTTED.

BECAUSE ALL THE BUY UP OUR REAL ESTATE.

>>Yunji: HOW DO THEY/THEM BACK.

>> WORSE.

DON'T PAY TAXES.

TAX FREE.

WE'RE LOSING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS DOLLARS IN TAX ON OUR STATE REFUSES TO TAX THEM.

SO WE'RE PAYING HIGHER TAXES.

YOU GOT TO GO IN THAT LEVEL DOWN HERE AND SAY, ALL OF US HAVE TO BE FIGHT FIGHTING AT THIS LEVEL.

TO SAY, GOVERNMENT, WE NEED OWNERSHIP.

WE NEED OWNERSHIP OF OUR ASSETS.

WE NEED OWNERSHIP BUSINESSES KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES WEALTHIER.

NEED TO GET RENTAL PROJECTS THAT ARE TENANT OWNED.

NEED HOUSING THAT'S OWNED.

AS SOON AS WE ACCOMPLISH THAT LEVEL, EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS INTO PLACE.

>>Yunji: OKAY, E'O.

BUY LOCAL FOR PETER.

MEANING IS DEEPER THAN JUST PRODUCE AT THE MARKET.

WHAT DO YOU THO SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE TO, TACKLE THIS CRISIS.

>> >> WELL, I THINK A LOT PEOPLE ARE ALSO UNAWARE OF LIKE ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT PLAY INTO AFFORDABILITY.

SO LIKE MAYBE MORE EDUCATION FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST SEE THEY'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH MONEY.

NOT GETTING ENOUGH WAGES CAN'T MAKE RENT.

NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING, WHERE IS IT COMING FROM?

GOVERNMENT?

THESE NONPROFITS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AUREUS REALLY LIKE FORMING EXACT WHAT THE ROOT ISSUE.

UNDERSTANDING.

HOW WE DID BUILD FROM THAT.

AFFORDABILITY FAGS EVERYTHING.

TALKING ABOUT IN AFFECTS EVERYTHING.

FOOD INSECURITY HOUSING, WAGES.

SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.

EVEN FOOD FOR MYSELF.

SO ALSO ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHERE IS THE ROOT CAUSE AND HOW DO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, CORINGSES AND ALL OF THESE CORPORATIONS PEOPLE AND WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE A WE FUTURE AND BETTER CHANGE.

THAT'S KIND OF CORE THEME I'M GELGT AT HERE.

COOPERATION.

AND JUST GETTING HERE.

UNDERSTANDING THAT, WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

AND IT'S NOT JUST ISSUE THAT COMES FROM ONE SINGULAR PERSON OR ONE ENTITY OR AGENCY.

WHICH ALL HAVE AGENCY.

COLLECTIVELY FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE CONTINUE THRIVING IN HAWAII AS WE KNOW IT IS HAWAII.

>>Yunji: WHAT WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

SYSTEM IS NOT SILOS.

WE ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS QUESTION?

>> SIMILAR TO WHAT LEIALOHA SHARED ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED AND STAYING EDUCATED ABOUT ISSUES AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

SUPPORTING LO LOCAL UNDERSTANDIG WHO IT IS THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING.

NOT JUST SUPPORTING LOCAL.

BUT MAINLY SUPPORTING KANAKA OWE BUSINESS AND FARMERS.

BRINGING FARM TO TABLEER O FARM TO THEIR BUSINESS.

INVESTING IN THEM TO HELP SCALE UP.

THEIR PRODUCT AND SALES AND PRODUCTION AND SALES KEEPING OUR OHANA HERE FOR DESCREN RACINGS TO COME.

>>Yunji: THANK YOUR ARE.

GENERATIONS TO COME.

THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE?

>> MY THOUGHTS ARE AN THAT IN ORDER TO SYSTEMICALLY WORK ON THESE ISSUES, AT THE ROOT, ADDRESSING IMMEDIATE NEED, WHILE ALSO PLANNING VERY ROBUST SYSTEMIC FUTURE WHERE WE CAN HAVE AFFORDABILITY, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE THING THAT, ONE THING THAT YOU COULD DO, IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, AND HAVE IT WITHOUT EGO, SPEAK YOUR HEART.

AND IF YOU SPEAK YOUR HEART, I THINK PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND GAIN PERSPECTIVE ATOLL DISMPLET'S POINT.

TO ST.

'S POINTMENT NOT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, EVERYTHING AT EVERY LEVEL.

SOMETIMES YOUR IMMEDIATE NEED IS THE ONLY NEED THAT YOU CAN SEE.

AND YOU'RE ANGRY AND RIGHTFULLY SO.

BUT IF YOU CANNOT, YOU WILL LIVE IN A SILO AND ONLY TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL WHO ARE IN THAT IMMEDIATE SPACE AND WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS I THINK WE NEED EVERYONE TO GET INVOLVED AT SOME LEVEL THROUGH THEIR OWN, PERSONAL EDUCATION, OF ISSUES, AND THEN BEING CIVICICALLY MINDED, GET INVOLVED, WHETHER IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD, LEVEL, OR IF IT'S WITH NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, OR GOVERNMENT, SMALL BUSINESSES, DON'T OFTEN SHOW UP AT THE LEGISLATURE.

RIGHT?

BIG BUSINESS DOES.

THEY HAVE LOBBYISTS.

BUT ANYBODY CAN SHOW UP.

AND KNOCK ON A DOOR.

ANYBODY.

SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUAL CIVIC ACTION AND TO COME SPEAKING FROM THE HEART, TO SHARE AND COLLABORATE.

>>Yunji: WE ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

WHAT IS YOUR AFFORDABILITY PIECE THAT WE'RE MISSING DO YOU THINK IN.

>> I THINK THERE'S SOME SOLUTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY HAPPENING.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LEAN INTO THEM.

I LOOK AT DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS, WHICH WAS EXTREMELY UNDERFUNDED FOR DECADES, IS NOW WITH A $600 MILLION INVESTMENT, MOVING AGGRESSIVELY TO HOUSE 29,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE WAIT LIST.

I THINK IF WE DID THE WORK AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, TO MAKE SURE CONVEYANCE TAX IS DELIVERING $60 MILLION A YEAR, WHICH IS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, TO HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT UNDERFUNDED AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

IF THEY CAN HAVE $60 MILLION A YEAR, YOU CAN START TO THINK ABOUT BONDING.

AND PUTTING THAT MONEY OUT UP FRONT SO YOU CAN GET HAWAIIANS ON THE LAND.

I THINK COUNTY LEVEL, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT A LOT IS HAWAII HAS THE LOWEST PROPERTY TAXES IN THE NATION.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT RAISING PROPERTY TAXES ON OUR LOCAL AND HAWAIIAN FAMILY ALSO.

FOLKS LIVING IN HOME.

BUT IN THE COUNTY OF MAUI, COUNTY OF HAWAII, WE HELP THEM THINK ABOUT WHAT IF WE TAXED FAMILIES WHO ARE NOT OWNER OCCUPANTS.

FOLKS WHO HAD 2, 3, 4, 5, SIX HOME A USE THAT MONEY SO LOCAL AND HAWAIIAN FAMILIES HAVE CAN HAVE ONE AFFORDABLE HOME.

THAT SOLUTION IS HAPPENING.

IT REQUIRES NONOWNER OCCUPANT OWNERS TO PAY LESS THAN $5,000 MORE PER YEAR.

IT IN MAUI AND THEY RAISE $60 MILLION ANNUALLY TO THE AFFORDABILITY HOUSING FUND.

SO NOW YOU CAN INVEST COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

WHICH MAKES SURE THE LAND IS IN THE HAND OF LOCAL AND HAWAIIAN HAWAIIAN FAMILIES.

AND FUNDING THINGS LIKE, DEFERRED PAYMENT LOANS.

ESSENTIALLY LOANS THAT SAY, HEY, GIVE YOU 0 INTEREST, $200,000 LOAN, TO MAKE UP THE DENNIS BETWEEN WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD AND HOW MUCH HOUSE COSTS.

AN YOU NEVER HAVE TO PAY THAT BACK.

AS LONG AS YOU SELL TO ANOTHER LOCAL OR HAWAIIAN FAMILY.

AT THE SAME INCOME OR LOWER.

THESE SOLUTIONS ALREADY HAPPENING.

NEED TO SCALE THEM I IT'S MATTER OF OUR PRIORITIES NONOWNER OCCUPANT LANDOWNERS, OR ARE THEY REALLY LOCAL AND WAHINE FA WAHINE FAMILY.

I KNOW WHERE THIS PANEL STANDS MOST THE PEOPLE WALLING STAND.

HAWAIIAN.

LANE INTO THOSE SOLUTIONS ARER.

>>Yunji: THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> GUIDE BY KUPUNA IKE.

AHUPUAA IS THE MODEL FORWARD MINDSET AND PHILOSOPHY IT.

ANTI-KU FROM WIPE WAIPIO VALLEY MORE THAN A DOZEN COOPERATION AND OLELO HAWAII.

BEFORE THIS PANEL LOOK IT UP.

NOT ANY OLELO HAWAII WORDS THAT TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.

WASN'T PART OF OUR WORLD VIEW OR REALITY ARE SO BEEN DOING, AS ONE EFFORT IS ORGANIZING COOPERATIVES ACROSS THE STATE OF HAWAII.

WE HAD FIRST GATHERING LAST MAY.

OVER 80 COOPERATE ERINS EMERGING COOPERATIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TALK ABOUT THE CREATION OF FEDERATION, COALITION OF FOLKS BUILDING MEMBER OWNED BUSINESSES WITHIN HAWAII.

OWNERSHIP IS KEY TO ALL DIFFERENT QUESTIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BILL GOING THROUGH SESSION RIGHT NOW.

SB2922 CROSSED OVER FROM THE GNAT TO THE HOUSE PRETTY CLEAR PATH TO POTENTIALLY BEING PASSED.

SENATE TO THE HOUSE.

UPDATING HAD 421C COOPERATIVE STATUTE.

TIERS E'O IF I FIRST TIME COOPERATION.

WORKER COOPERATE IRE'O USHERS STATE OF HAWAII.

GREAT EXAMPLES HELM OWNED ON RATION, MONSTER HOME OWNED.

OPERATION.

ULU COOPERATIVE.

GUARANTEEING PURCHASE MUCH ULU.

MEMBERS OWNED.

FARMER IT'S COOPERATIVE AROUND THE OWNERSHIP.

PROCESS OF ULU.

NOT OWNERSHIP FARM ITSELF.

STATUTE IS NOT ALLOWED THAT.

PASSAGE OF THAT BILL IN MAY.

BUILDING MORE COMMUNITY MEMBER AND WORKER OWNED BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STATUTE.

WAS THE BUILDING THAT WORKER OWNED WEALTH INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THENNED BY COMMUNITY.

AND OWNED FROM COMMUNITY.

ALWAYS IN PURSUIT ACCESSER E'OING MORE LAND, PURSUIT OF HAWAIIAN NATIONAL NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.

INDEPENDENCE.

>>Yunji: HEARD SO MANY THINGS THINGS FROM ALL OF YOU REMINDS ME IS THAT WE HAVE THE ANSWERS.

PETER GOES BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

IT KNOWLEDGE IS HERE.

AND THE WISDOM IS HERE.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE WILLINGNESS.

PAUL GO AHEAD.

>> ACTUALLY GIVE SMALL EXAMPLE.

VERY PRACTICAL PROJECT KIND OF SUPERVISOR PART ONE OF OUR PROJECTS MUCH WORKING ON.

I THINK ILLUSTRATES A LOT OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING.

SO WE HAVE FEDERAL FUNDING TO PROMOTE AGRIFORESTRY AND DISTRIBUTE 2,000 FRUIT TREES WAIMANALO AND WAIANAE.

BUT WITHIN THIS PRO PROJECT WE'E ALSO TRYING TO DO PLANNING TO DO, IS ESTABLISH KIND OF COMMUNITY-BASED PLATFORM THAT WE CALL MEAAI SHARING PLATFORM.

IT'S SOFTWARE.

BUT WHAT IT DOES, ALLOWS PEOPLE LIKE IF YOU HAVE MANGOS AND I HAVE ULU, THEN WE CAN BUT I DON'T KNOW YOU, I DON'T LIVE RIGHT NEXT AOTEAROA TO YOU.

DOOR NEXTDOOR.

NOT A NEIGHBOR OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.

FIND EACH OTHER AND ENGINE HE EXIST EXCHANGE.

GO STEP FURTHER.

>> AND EXCHANGE.

LOOK FOR SOMEONE HAS AVOCADOS AND I HAVE I WANT AVOCADOS.

I HAVE MANGOS.

BUT I CAN'T FIND A COUNTER PARTY WHO HAS WANTS WHAT I HAVE AND THEY HAVE WHAT I WANT.

CAN'T DUI A BARTER.

IF I COULDANT CAN DO A BARTER.

DIGITAL TOKEN DIGITAL CURRENT CITY COULD KIND OF SELL.

SELL UNHE QUOTE UNQUESTION.

WHAT I HAVE TO GET THE CURRENCY AND FIND SOMEBODY ELSE CURRENCY.

FIND SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAS WHAT I WANT.

THE POINT OF THIS WHOLE THING IS THE NOT LIKE TO HOARD MONEY.

IT'S NOT CAPITALISM.

REALLY.

IT'S SHARING.

AND IT'S COMMUNITY DRIVEN.

SO WHAT I'M TRY TO SAY IS SMALL EXAMPLE OF HOW WE COULD BE EXCHANGING MORE AMONGST OURSELVES.

BECAUSE THAT IS TRUE WEALTH.

WEALTH IS NOT PIECE OF PAPER.

IT'S NOT MONEY IS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE DAYS, DOLLAR IS A FIAT CURRENCY.

JUST REPRESENTATION OF WHATEVER TRUST PEOPLE HAVE IN IT.

WHEREAS IF WE HAVE THIS PILINA CONNECTION CHRISTINA KEKKE CONNECTIONS AMONG EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGINGING REAL VALUE AND COMMUNITY DRIVEN THAT'S EMPOWERMENT.

>>Yunji: THAT IS ALSO, BUILDING THE KIND OF STISMS THAT LEIALOHA TALKING ABOUT.

ASSIST TEMPT SICKICALLY MINDED COMING TOGETHER.

CIVICALLY MINDED.

DURING THE PANDEMIC, ON BIG ISLAND WITH MY FAMILY ANDER, WE ARE TOO MANY BANANAS NEIGHBOR HAD EGGS.

SOMEONE ELSE HAD ORANGES GOTTEN TO THE STORE.

SAME WAY ALL JUST MEETING AT THE DRIVEWAY.

VERY SORT OF NOSTALGIC AND HAPPY MEMORY FOR ME FROM THAT TIME.

FELT LIKE THIS IS IT WHAT HAWAII SUPPOSE TO THE BE LIKE.

AND NOW, ALL BACK TO REGULAR SYSTEM ISNOT DOING THAT.

WHAT HAWAII USED TO BE LIKE.

OLD DAYS.

>>Yunji: WE HAVE WITHIN USER ARE.

WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?

DO WE NEED TO HE RAY L LIE RELY ON ELECTION TIFs PEOPLE IN HOUR.

FIGURE IT OUT FOR SOUR SELFMENT EXPERIENCE ERIN DAY IN PUEO KNEW A POWER OF, PEOPLE PEOPLE ASSEMBLIES MANY COMING TO THE.

HAVE OVER 300 VOLUNTEERS COME ONCE A MONTH TO ALOHA HANG OUT WITH US.

ALLOWED US OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS BUILD DOZEN ROCK WALTER AS BUILD TON AND TON FOOD IN THE CROWN GROUND.

REGIONAL AUTONOMY HERE.

INSPIRED BY THE WORK IN KAUAI.

ORGANIZATIONS HAS BEEN ABLE TO.

FIGHT HARD FOR STEWARDSHIP, OF THE HAENA STATE PARK.

OVERCROWDED FOR DECADE.

BEEN ABLE TO FULL COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT OF IT.

SHOW T THEY CAN BUILD REPEATED REGENERATIVE IT BUSINESS MODEL.

REDUCE THE VISITORS AND DRIVING REVENUE TAKE A SHUTTLE IN NOT A STATE RESIDENT.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING ABOUT THAT IS CREATING PATHWAY IN WHICH OTHERS CAN FOLLOW THAT MOOD MOMODE.

GREAT COMMUNITY BUILD.

MOVING THROUGH.

COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO WORK WITH DLNR TO BASICALLY ACCESS THOSE LAND AND BUILD COMMUNITY SUSTAINABILITY MODELS JUST LIKE THAT.

>> SOLUTION HAS TO COME FROM THE PEOPLE.

OUR LEGISLATURE BEEN TRYING FOR 60 YEARS AND FAIL.

THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THE PEOPLE HAVE TO GET INVOLVED.

WE HAVE TO RAISE OUR VOICE.

WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM GUIDANCE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> ALL ADD DID NOT WAIT FOR PERMISSION MANY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF FLOOD IN 2018 TO TAKE CRUEL CONTROL OF THEIR PARK.

>>Yunji: TALKING ABOUT SYSTEM WE ALL GRAVITATE TO THAT KIND OF HAWAII WE ALL WANT TO LIVE IN.

>> AXIS SYSTEM DID EXIST FOR HUNDREDS YEARS.

AHUPUAA SYSTEM.

MAUI AHUPUAA RESTORED AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN ACROSS ALL OF THE ISLANDS.

INAPUA STEWARDING THAT.

ON MAUI.

AND THAT SHARING IS HAPPENING.

AND TO TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND KEONE SHARAYAHING ABOUT THE -- SHARING ABOUT THE KIND OF THAT SAFE, SPACE FOR EVERYBODY.

PUUHONUA.

COMMUNITY GARDENS IS ALSO PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO.

THAN IS BEING ESTABLISHED ON KAUAI, MALAMA KAUAI IS ESTABLISHING AGRICULTURE PARK.

WHICH WILL HAVE THAT ORCHARD, HAVE A COMMUNITY GAR GARDEN SUBLEASING TO OTHER FARMERS WITH PRIORITY FOR KANAKA MAOLI FARMERS TO HELP GET THAT LAND ACCESS.

>>Yunji: I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY.

I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT YOU, CALL YOU, AND THEN YOU CONNECT THEM WITH THE ORGANIZATION, AT THE END OF THE DAY, HAWAII IS KIND.

AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY ALOHA IS SO CORE TO WHO WE WOULE WHO WE ARE.

TALK ABOUT THAT BUILDING OF COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE DOING IN THE WORK THAT YOU DO?

>> SO GOL 211 INDIVIDUAL CALLER.

WE WORK ONE-ON-ONE WITH WITHCALLERS MY NAME IS ALOHA IN IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN THAT NAME OR BECAUSE I LIVE IN HAWAII, BUT I ALWAYS TRY TO GIVE KINDNESS AND A LOT OF GRACE TO MY KAHULUIER MY CALLER COMEEL IN ANGRY THE FRUITS TRAY AT THE SYSTEM.

ER FRUSTRATED AT THE SYSTEM.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ALSO BECAUSE MAYBE THEY ARE ISOLATED AND JUST WANT TO BE HEARD.

SO 211 GIVES THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

WE ARE FREE CONFIDENTIAL.

YOU ARE N ANONYMOUS.

STILL THINKING 211 HAVE MY INFORMATION.

JUST YOUR NUMBER TO TEXT.

WE CAN CHAT.

ONLINE.

OR TEXT, CHAT.

EMAIL.

ALSO CONTACT US THAT WAY.

OR YOU CAN JUST WEBSITE.

211AUW211.ORG.

IF YOU JUST WANT TO USE OUR DATABASE SEVERAL.

WE'RE NOT GOOGLE.

WE MAKE SURE OUR INFORMATION IS VERIFIED.

MAKE SURE IT'S UP TO DATE.

WITH THOSE AGENCY IT'S AND PROGRAMS.

AND IF IT'S NOT NOT ACTIVE WE TAKE THEN DOWN.

THAT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 211 AND GOOGLE OR GEMINI ChatGPT THESE DAYS.

>>Yunji: THANK YOU.

GOING BACK TO WHAT PAULA SHARING, YOU WE HEARD FROM A LOT OF FOLKS TONIGHT THIS REALLY SORT OF YEARNING FOR THAT KIND OF RECIPROCAL ECONOMY.

>> I MEAN TWO THINGS ARE MAINLY GOING TO TALK AWAY FROM TODAY IS JUST LIKE THAT EMPHASIS ON SELF-SUFFICIENCY.

WHETHER THAT'S US INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I THINK MORE OF ALWAYSES A COMMUNITY.

OF HAWAII.

I THINK SELF-SUFFICIENCY NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ONE PERSON'S JOB.

I KNOW WE'RE SAYING WHAT IS ONE THING YOU CAN DO.

DO SOMETHING AS SMALL AS GETTING CINCHLY CINCHLY ENGAGE BIG PICTURE THING.

WORK WE'RE DOING NOW.

CIVICICALLY ENGAGED KEEPING WEALTH WEALTH IN OUR ISLAND DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST MONEY WEALTH.

BUT IT IS.

SO TAXING REITS, OUT OF STATE HOMEOWNER HAVE SECOND, THIRD HOME HERE.

SOMETHING WE'RE.

WORKING ON TOO.

PEOPLE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT, KEEPING THE WEALTH WE HAVE HERE.

LOOK AT FOOD SYSTEMS.

WE HAVE A LOT LOCAL FARMER LOCAL SMOKE ALARM KENNETH LOCAL FARMERS NEED TO BE SUPPORTED.

FOOD IS OUR WEALTH.

AINA IS WHAT GIVES TO US.

AND WE NEED TO KEEP THAT CIRCLING HERE BECAUSE ANY TIME THERE'S EXPLOITATION, ANY TIME OUT OF STATE OUT OF COUNTRY INVESTORS HERE, EXPLOITING ON OUR PEOPLE, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOST.

SO YEAH.

SELF-SUFFICIENCY.

>> WE TALK ABOUT KEEPING OUR WEALTH.

GREATEST WEALTH IS OUR PEOPLE.

WE NEED TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE HERE.

WE NEED TO BRING OUR PEOPLE HOME AGAIN.

>>Yunji: I WANT WONDER SEEK TO THAT.

FROM A ST.

PAUL BUSINESS STANDPOINT.

SPEAK TO THAT WE SMALL BUSINESS.

TALK A LOT ABOUT BUYING LOCAL.

CAN BE DIFFICULT NOR EXPENSIVE.

IT SIA WORTHY INASSESS INVESTMENT, I WOULD AGREE.

IS A WORTHY INVESTMENT.

I THINK, THAT NOT JUST FOR MADE GOODS.

FOOD, AND YOUR SERVICES.

SO IF YOU CAN THINK ABOUT UTILIZING SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW THAT THAT MONEY IS GOING TO FOR TO EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE IN HAWAII THAT WILL THEN GO TO STORE, AN BUY MORE THINGS HERE.

AND IT'S ECOSYSTEM THAT IS SELF-FEEDING HERE.

I THINK IT'S ALSO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE H HAVE A DENTIST DISCONNECTED.

TEND TO SHARE THIS.

HAVE A DISCONNECT.

THERE IS A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT REQUIRED OF SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES.

YOU'RE EXPECTING A LEVEL OF SERVICE A LEVEL OF LOCAL MESS.

A LEVEL OF INTERCONGRATULATIONS WITH CULTURE.

INLTD TBRAIG OF CULTURE.

LEVEL OF STORYTELLING FOR A CPG PROJECT OR FOOD.

UNDERCONGRATULATIONS OF CULTURE.

FOOD COMPANY AND IN ORDER TO DO ALL YOU HAVE THAT, INT COST MONEY TO BE ABLE TO HIGHER PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVE SPECIAL SKILLS, OR TO EVEN DO IT AT ALL.

I ALWAYS USE THE EXAMPLE OF HAVE GRACE WITH THE THESE SMALL LOCAL COMPANIES, SAME GRACE THAT YOU GIVE WHEN YOU GO TO TARGET.

AND BUY TOILET PAPER.

AND YOU JUST WANT THE CHEAPEST ONE.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO TELL YOU A STORY.

YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT ITS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

YOU ARE JUST BUYING A COMMODITY.

SO I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT CONTEXT, ALL OF THE EVERYBODY PRESIDENTS THAT YOU MAKE.

AN PROBABLY 95% OF THEM GOING TO BE AT BIG BOX PURCHASES THAT YOU MAKE) THAT 5% OF YOUR, WEALTH REALLY INVESTING BACK INTO YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND IF YOU CAN GROW THAT ONE OR 2%, I THINK WE'LL ALL BE BETTER FOR IT.

>>Yunji: ALMOST OUT OF TIME.

WANT TO GET TO JEFF AND YOU'RE IN THE SOLUTION BUSINESS.

AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO TELL US LITTLE BIT WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR YOU, WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO GET A FAMILY INTO A HOUSE, AND WHAT THAT MEAN FOR HAWAII.

YOU KNOW, IT'S WORKING ONEN HOUSING IN HAWAII, IS PROBABLY HARDEST THINKING, ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS HAD TO DO.

DONE IN MY LIFE.

TO BE ABLE TO SEE A FAMILY, FINALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE HOME, THEY'RE RELAXED, STRESS OF HAVING TO FIGHT OR BE THINKING ABOUT HAVING TO MOVE OFFICER ISLAND, TO MAKE IT WORK, OFFICER ISLAND, TO FINAL WILL YOU SEE.

OFF ISLAND R R THEM JUST TAKE THAT BREATH.

AND FEEL LIKE THEY'RE HOME.

MASAKI IT TOTALLY WORTH IT.

MAKES IT TOTALLY WORTH ITER AND TO PETER'S POINT, IT'S KEEPING OUR GREATEST WEALTH, GREATEST RESOURCE HERE.

SO YEAH, IT'S IN THE FACE.

IT'S IN THE KIDS, ASKING HEY, DAD WHO IS YOUR LANDLORD?

IT'S US.

AND IT'S DAD THAT IS HAPPY KEEP KIDS HERE.

BUT ALSO TAKE CARE OF THE KUPUNA THAT TOOK CARE OF THEM AND HAVE THEM IN THE HOME.

IT'S TO TOTALLY WORTH.

>>Yunji: BIOLA UNIVERSITY SENTIMENT.

I WANT TO END WITH THIS THESE.

BEAUTIFUL SENTIMENT.

HARD A LOT TONIGHT FOCUSED ON YOUR GENERATION AND DO YOU THINK THAT GIVEN ALM WE TALKED ABOUT, STAYING HERE, IS WITHIN REACH?

>> I MEAN, YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY IN ORDER FOR THE NEXT GENERATION TO FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THE COURAGE TO STAY HERE.

AND IT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A LOT OF IT TALK ABOUT, NOT ABOUT JUST PHYSICAL DISTANCE PAPER.

IT'S ABOUT KNOWING THAT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE YOUR BACK.

AND IT'S ABOUT KNOWING THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CARE.

THERE'S AGENCIES AND NONPROFITS AND EVEN SOMETIMES LEGISLATORS WHO ARE REALLY PUSHING TO TRY TO MAKE HAWAII BETTER SPACE.

FOR NOT JUST THEIR FUTURE, BUT THEIR CHILDREN'S FUTURE.

AND CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S AND KIND OF KEEP THIS GENERATIONAL WEALTH GOING.

AN AGAIN, WEALTH NOT MEANING JUST PAPER MONEY.

BUT WEALTH OF ALOHA.

WILT OF JUST HAVING PEOPLE HERE.

IN HAWAII MUCH WEALTH, I THINK YEAH, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, WORK ON THIS ISSUE.

FROM LIKE ROOTS OF IT, IT'S ALSO ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER.

WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.

TO ENSURE THAT OUR FUTURE WANTS TO STAY.

AND AGAIN, NEXT GENERAL RAG OF OUR PEOPLE GENERATION OF OUR PEOPLE REALLY ARE GOING CONTINUE ON HAWAII.

I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO REMIND THEM THAT THEIR VALUE AND WE'RE WORKING TO TRY TO GIVE THEM THAT BETTER FUTURE THAT THEY'RE REALLY WORK TOWARDS.

>>Yunji: THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU ALL OFFER YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

MAHALO TO OUR GUESTS.

OF COURSE, FOR YOU AT HOME.

WOULD WEIGHED IN ON AIR AND ONLINE.

SHARING YOUR PERSPECTIVES WITH US TONIGHT.

FROM MANY IN HAWAII, COST OF LIVING HAS BECOME ONE OF THE DEFINEING CHALLENGE OF OUR TIMES.

SHAPING WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, WHAT THAT LIFE LOOKS LIKE AND WHETHER THE NEXT GENERATION CAN INDEED STAY HERE AT YOU WILL ALL TONIGHT THROUGHOUT TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION, ONE THING IS VERY CLEAR, WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE PLAY AND WANT TO SEE HAWAII REMAIN A PLACE WHERE LOCAL FAMILIES CAN THRIVE.

KAKOU MEANS ALL OF US AN FUTURE OF HAWAII CERTAINLY DEPENDS ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.

NEXT WEEK, OFF FOR THE KUHIO DAY HOLIDAY.

WE'LL BE BACK ON APRIL 2.

WITH INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

DISCUSSION ABOUT MOVE THAT LAWMAKERS ARE MAKING TO CREATE NEW RULES FOR DRIVERS LICENSE RENEWALS INCLUDING RETAKE THE TEST.

COULD YOU ACTUALLY PASS?

DO JOIN US THEN.

I'M YUNJI DE NIES.

UNTIL NEXT TIME.

ALOHA.

AND GOOD NIGHT.

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